Taiwan lawmakers introduces digital asset bill for crypto regulation

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Quote from: hugeblack on October 28, 2023, 03:47:54 AM

I don't see how separating business funds and customers assets will happen or how it will be implemented because this means that there are third-party services or applications that take customers’ money and leave the fees to the platform, or will the platform pay an amount as a guarantee because the platform’s failure to use customers’ funds makes their resources scarce, as some of them work like a bank, investing customers’ money in low-risk investments, .

This is the thing, they will be banned from!
Japan has already been doing this for years and this is a reason why FTX Japan users still have their money!

There is a bit of nuance here
- you deposit your money in a bank but you expect interest, how would that work if the bank is not allowed to touch your money
- you deposit coins on an exchange knowing that you can withdraw them at any time but you don't demand interest and they get fees from you
- you deposit coins for 100% APY then you know those coins are going to be lend

What those laws require is that unless the user specifically allows you to play with his money you must keep every deposit safe and untouched.
Rather than a bank, think of it like your stock broker, imagine you call him to liquidate some AAPL shares and he tells you everything is in SBNY (signature bank).

Quote from: Jating on October 29, 2023, 01:51:56 PM

we all know that as per CZ they are SAFU.

Yeah right!

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Quote from: Jating on October 29, 2023, 01:51:56 PM

But for exchanges like Binance and others, it's going to be hard to force them but we all know that as per CZ they are SAFU.

SAFU or other funds give false hopes that your money is safe, unless these funds are managed by regulatory bodies or at least third parties to ensure that there is a percentage of clients’ funds that are guaranteed, amounting to about 50% of it for amounts above 50 thousand dollars and 100% for amounts below that. There is no benefit from it.

What is the benefit of putting $10 million into SAFU when the total customer deposits are in the billions?

Therefore, central banks are almost the only ones able to guarantee this with commercial banks, and it is better not to leave your coin in CEXs account after completing trading.

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Quote from: Fiatless on October 28, 2023, 03:22:27 AM

Quote from: yhiaali3 on October 27, 2023, 11:30:51 PM

From this reading I see that the Taiwanese government's stance is moving towards leniency towards cryptocurrencies, and it is clear that they want to create an open business environment by not restricting professional investors from participating in trading.

The other measure, which is the most important in my opinion, I mean “separating business funds and customer
assets” comes to protect investors in general, especially inexperienced traders, from problems related to stock exchanges such as hacking, bankruptcy, etc.

It is good to see this type of regulation regulating exchanges, protecting users, and creating a positive atmosphere for crypto companies at the same time.

Taiwan is at the infant stage of cryptocurrency regulation and it is good that the country is setting up rules to protect customers from some dubious players in the industry. Giving exchanges or other crypto firms free hands to operate can have some undesirable consequences. However, the proposed laws seem flexible and will attract more investors to Taiwan. I am a supporter of Proof of Reserves for centralized platforms but the draft is silent on that which I find challenging. However, the draft law gives room for periodic audits and control of their accounts by the Financial Supervisory Commission (FSC).

Almost everyone in Asia is still in the infancy stage of adapting crypto, some of them are still in the gray area, some enacted some form or regulations but it is a work in progress. So this could be the case for Taiwan as well as they are trying not to be left out by some of it's neighbouring countries as far as crypto regulation and adoption goes.

So it's good that at least they are going on the right direction as opposing it. And then are obviously different from Mainland China and they wanted to give freedom to it's people and not oppress them. Not sure though about the Proof of Reserves, I mean not every exchange are Safu, but if it is going to be local exchange yeah, I do agree that it should be enforce. But for exchanges like Binance and others, it's going to be hard to force them but we all know that as per CZ they are SAFU.

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I don't see how separating business funds and customers assets will happen or how it will be implemented because this means that there are third-party services or applications that take customers’ money and leave the fees to the platform, or will the platform pay an amount as a guarantee because the platform’s failure to use customers’ funds makes their resources scarce, as some of them work like a bank, investing customers’ money in low-risk investments, It leaves a good percentage for daily withdrawal, so most or all platforms collapse if clients suddenly decide to withdraw their funds.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on October 27, 2023, 11:30:51 PM

From this reading I see that the Taiwanese government's stance is moving towards leniency towards cryptocurrencies, and it is clear that they want to create an open business environment by not restricting professional investors from participating in trading.

The other measure, which is the most important in my opinion, I mean “separating business funds and customer
assets” comes to protect investors in general, especially inexperienced traders, from problems related to stock exchanges such as hacking, bankruptcy, etc.

It is good to see this type of regulation regulating exchanges, protecting users, and creating a positive atmosphere for crypto companies at the same time.

Taiwan is at the infant stage of cryptocurrency regulation and it is good that the country is setting up rules to protect customers from some dubious players in the industry. Giving exchanges or other crypto firms free hands to operate can have some undesirable consequences. However, the proposed laws seem flexible and will attract more investors to Taiwan. I am a supporter of Proof of Reserves for centralized platforms but the draft is silent on that which I find challenging. However, the draft law gives room for periodic audits and control of their accounts by the Financial Supervisory Commission (FSC).

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Quote from: cheezcarls on October 27, 2023, 08:09:31 AM

In the proposed digital asset bill, it includes not restricting of professional investors to engage into trading, no strong position towards stablecoins or derivatives, locally licensed exchanges only requiring separation of business funds and customer assets, etc.

From this reading I see that the Taiwanese government's stance is moving towards leniency towards cryptocurrencies, and it is clear that they want to create an open business environment by not restricting professional investors from participating in trading.

The other measure, which is the most important in my opinion, I mean “separating business funds and customer
assets” comes to protect investors in general, especially inexperienced traders, from problems related to stock exchanges such as hacking, bankruptcy, etc.

It is good to see this type of regulation regulating exchanges, protecting users and creating a positive atmosphere for crypto companies at the same time.

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It seems that the proposed digital asset bill is to protect investors more than it is a cryptocurrency project, or are you talking about the amendments that were made to it?

Not restricting professional investors and locally licensed exchanges only requiring separation of business funds and client assets are all indications that they just want to stop random investing in cryptocurrencies and reduce the losses of inexperienced traders who may rush into random investments as some do with FTX or altcoins.What is the definition of Bitcoin in the bill?

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Source: https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/10/27/taiwan-crypto-regulation-gets-going-with-first-reading-of-digital-asset-bill/

It seems that Taiwan is making moves already in accelerating their efforts towards regulating digital assets like cryptocurrencies. Because of the FTX collapse where the platform itself is popular to Taiwanese enthusiasts, it is one of the big reasons that the lawmakers needed to pass this Virtual Asset Management Ordinance Draft bill.

As of this moment, it's on the first reading to the Legislative Yuan and probably there will be second and final reading before enacting it into law.

In the proposed digital asset bill, it includes not restricting of professional investors to engage into trading, no strong position towards stablecoins or derivatives, locally licensed exchanges only requiring separation of business funds and customer assets, etc.

What are your initial thoughts and insights about this latest development by the lawmakers in passing this digital asset bill? Are you in favor of it? Or is there some adjustments needed to be done in the bill before it finally passes into law?

Would like to hear from you guys about this. Thanks!

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