Topic: TAKING OVER COIN. NEED 2 BTC. WILL PAY BACK % OF YOUR CHOOSING DAILY. (Read 2047 times)

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on May 05, 2015, 07:08:29 PM

This type of project would be better suited for crowdfunding OP. You can raise funds and those who contribute can be awarded a small percentage of the total coins. Without the crowdfunding effort, the coin dies. If enough people contribute then they will benefit since the value of their new coins will (hopefully) rise.

This type of project would be best suited to the partners, or family and friends. The OP is claiming to have 3btc in the coin that he can get out with just 0.75btc. The developers could either get paid after they made the changes, or the OP could get the money from family and friends.

The fact that neither of these parties trust him is a red flag. He says it's a sure thing, but they don't believe him, and they know him best. Why should we believe him?

Quote from: spartak_t on May 06, 2015, 03:43:23 AM

This type of project would be better suited for crowdfunding OP. You can raise funds and those who contribute can be awarded a small percentage of the total coins. Without the crowdfunding effort, the coin dies. If enough people contribute then they will benefit since the value of their new coins will (hopefully) rise.

not to rain on anyone's parade but the coin is dead regardless. we have 1000 altcoins. does the world really need procoin?

Maybe this type of fundraising would be appropriate for smart contracts then. That is, if OP is so sure that the value of the coin will rise and the devs are OK with delayed payment. The devs will be promised 2 BTC if OP's prediction comes true. The coins could be placed in a multi-sig escrow account and only released when the Procoin price increases. Use an oracle to get the price of the Procoin on an exchange.

Quote from: waterpile on May 05, 2015, 07:16:54 PM

no, the world is fine with BTC atm.

There can be always place for some alts.

P.S. Otherwise... a coin needs a lot more than 2 or 3 BTC. I know it from my own experience.

There have been a few coins which had less than that and still turned out to be reasonably successful.

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OP if you are not going to scam the community then offer collateral. It is clear and simple. You do not need to fight in the forum to get the loan instead this is the way not to get it.

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I'm providing the necessary facts for people to think for themselves.

Tell you what - give me the names of the developers. I will contact them on your behalf and convince them to release the coin first. We'll discuss putting in a kill switch that will render the coin useless should you not pay them - that should work.

What are their names?
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You're not providing any "necessary facts". We get it, he's not offering collateral for his loan request, blah blah blah. Holy mother of fucking Christ Vod, you are an overbearing internet asshole who cannot get over himself. This is not YOUR community, nor do you own the entirety of bitcoin. Let me give you some advice: stop acting like both of those things are true.

To OP: Though Vod thinks this community consists of morons--which is mostly true--he is correct about your loan repayment offer. It really doesn't make any sense. I believe you don't intend to scam, but I certainly wouldn't lend you a single satoshi based on what you've presented here. Can't you offer anything up as collateral?

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Quote from: waterpile on May 05, 2015, 07:16:54 PM

no, the world is fine with BTC atm.

There can be always place for some alts.

P.S. Otherwise... a coin needs a lot more than 2 or 3 BTC. I know it from my own experience.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on May 05, 2015, 07:08:29 PM

This type of project would be better suited for crowdfunding OP. You can raise funds and those who contribute can be awarded a small percentage of the total coins. Without the crowdfunding effort, the coin dies. If enough people contribute then they will benefit since the value of their new coins will (hopefully) rise.

not to rain on anyone's parade but the coin is dead regardless. we have 1000 altcoins. does the world really need procoin?

no, the world is fine with BTC atm.

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This type of project would be better suited for crowdfunding OP. You can raise funds and those who contribute can be awarded a small percentage of the total coins. Without the crowdfunding effort, the coin dies. If enough people contribute then they will benefit since the value of their new coins will (hopefully) rise.

not to rain on anyone's parade but the coin is dead regardless. we have 1000 altcoins. does the world really need procoin?

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Quote from: gongomanny on May 05, 2015, 09:50:30 AM

This type of project would be better suited for crowdfunding OP. You can raise funds and those who contribute can be awarded a small percentage of the total coins. Without the crowdfunding effort, the coin dies. If enough people contribute then they will benefit since the value of their new coins will (hopefully) rise.

This type of project would be best suited to the partners, or family and friends. The OP is claiming to have 3btc in the coin that he can get out with just 0.75btc. The developers could either get paid after they made the changes, or the OP could get the money from family and friends.

The fact that neither of these parties trust him is a red flag. He says it's a sure thing, but they don't believe him, and they know him best. Why should we believe him?

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This type of project would be better suited for crowdfunding OP. You can raise funds and those who contribute can be awarded a small percentage of the total coins. Without the crowdfunding effort, the coin dies. If enough people contribute then they will benefit since the value of their new coins will (hopefully) rise.

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You wouldn't happen to be a benevolent Nigerian prince, would you? What you're asking is essentially the same premise as those scam emails, where the scammer claims to have large amounts of sum stuck in a bank account somewhere, wants you to pay for the fee of taking it out and then promises to send you a significant portion of that amount. IMO, what you're asking for is similar, you say you have a lot of bitcoins invested into this new coin, and are sure it will be a blast. You just require a not-so-small loan of 2btc and you promise to pay back a significant portion of the initial amount once it becomes successful. And to top it all of, you are offering zero collateral. Now tell me this doesn't have scam written all over it? If you are willing to use your account as collateral, perhaps you may be able to get 0.2-0.3 btcs in a loan, but your negative rep will make things harder.

By the way, you might be related to royalty...:

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Hello frienfd, my name is RICHARD HARRIS, ESQUIRE.
I have receetly come intona a large sum of american money. I am a wealthy princes and as filanthrowpist I find it my duty to share money with thsoe who need.
You need.
But in my country, the money dccannot get out. it is traped by burocrats. Using american bank accoun number from you, money can get out of country and toyou.
But in order sort out postal issue, and ship money, I nee d a small fee.
One thousand american dollars ship via western union.
Thank you, and god may bless you.
Prince Robert Harrion.

Well, not really...the nigerian prince stuff is 100% lies.
I believe the OP is telling the truth as far :
There's a dead altcoin and he's trying to revive it.

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You wouldn't happen to be a benevolent Nigerian prince, would you? What you're asking is essentially the same premise as those scam emails, where the scammer claims to have large amounts of sum stuck in a bank account somewhere, wants you to pay for the fee of taking it out and then promises to send you a significant portion of that amount. IMO, what you're asking for is similar, you say you have a lot of bitcoins invested into this new coin, and are sure it will be a blast. You just require a not-so-small loan of 2btc and you promise to pay back a significant portion of the initial amount once it becomes successful. And to top it all of, you are offering zero collateral. Now tell me this doesn't have scam written all over it? If you are willing to use your account as collateral, perhaps you may be able to get 0.2-0.3 btcs in a loan, but your negative rep will make things harder.

By the way, you might be related to royalty...:

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Hello frienfd, my name is RICHARD HARRIS, ESQUIRE.
I have receetly come intona a large sum of american money. I am a wealthy princes and as filanthrowpist I find it my duty to share money with thsoe who need.
You need.
But in my country, the money dccannot get out. it is traped by burocrats. Using american bank accoun number from you, money can get out of country and toyou.
But in order sort out postal issue, and ship money, I nee d a small fee.
One thousand american dollars ship via western union.
Thank you, and god may bless you.
Prince Robert Harrion.

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 11:39:29 PM

Respect is earned, not given.

And so is negative trust. He earned it by making unwanted loan requests.

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Another red flag is covering one's tracks.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1044464

This is the OP initially asking for a 10btc loan. When he figured out he couldn't get it, he changed the title and all the posts to "." and moved the thread to archive, hoping no one would notice. Luckily some people quoted his posts.

Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:46:59 PM

yea that cuntrag can suck my whole dick.

You'll notice he edited that one out too.... Wink

IMO, constant use of profanity indicates lower intelligence. It's much easier on the brain to post "fuck" than to determine the proper verb, noun, adjective or adverb. I wouldn't do any business with someone as (sexually) immature as the OP.

Respect is earned, not given.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on May 04, 2015, 09:45:35 PM

Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:42:26 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on May 04, 2015, 09:39:58 PM

there's nothing wrong with having assets and still asking for a loan. most banks want you to have some money on hand actually.

still, I think OP you cannot revive the coin with a few tweets. this is sorry to say just another sh**coin, with nothing innovative going on. if I am wrong please enlighten me.

plans are waiting to be implemented. Yea I have zero to do with the PRO OP. zero. Turning it around because a few of my friends got scammed basically.

well anyway I think it's a lot of money to ask for a loan and doesn't help that Vod negged you...good luck.

Its cool. I really do respect you for showing respect. Thank you.

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Quote from: FruitsBasket on May 04, 2015, 09:35:23 PM

Please will you read before commenting with your sig ad?

Reading helps alot Roll Eyes

Yup reading does help a lot smartass.

OP never explicitly stated why he couldn't just convert fiat into BTC.

Quote from: FruitsBasket on May 04, 2015, 09:35:23 PM

Because it takes 5 days and its my last bit of fiat until thursday. Im no fool, Ive thought this through over and over this weekend.

Well it is obvious that you have caused quite a bit of trouble for asking just a large amount of bitcoins.
Here is a suggestion, since you do have some fiat and I assume that you don't need the 2 BTC right away. I would recommend you to go on BTCJam.com or some other p2p lending service and request a loan from there (assuming that you are willing to provide identification). The interest rates might be higher however it should be able to buy you enough time for the 5 days for coinbase or w/e and/or another paycheck.

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Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:42:26 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on May 04, 2015, 09:39:58 PM

there's nothing wrong with having assets and still asking for a loan. most banks want you to have some money on hand actually.

still, I think OP you cannot revive the coin with a few tweets. this is sorry to say just another sh**coin, with nothing innovative going on. if I am wrong please enlighten me.

plans are waiting to be implemented. Yea I have zero to do with the PRO OP. zero. Turning it around because a few of my friends got scammed basically.

well anyway I think it's a lot of money to ask for a loan and doesn't help that Vod negged you...good luck.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on May 04, 2015, 09:39:58 PM

there's nothing wrong with having assets and still asking for a loan. most banks want you to have some money on hand actually.

still, I think OP you cannot revive the coin with a few tweets. this is sorry to say just another sh**coin, with nothing innovative going on. if I am wrong please enlighten me.

plans are waiting to be implemented. Yea I have zero to do with the PRO OP. zero. Turning it around because a few of my friends got scammed basically.

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there's nothing wrong with having assets and still asking for a loan. most banks want you to have some money on hand actually.

still, I think OP you cannot revive the coin with a few tweets. this is sorry to say just another sh**coin, with nothing innovative going on. if I am wrong please enlighten me.

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Quote from: josephno1 on May 04, 2015, 09:34:31 PM

Quote from: FruitsBasket on May 04, 2015, 09:29:40 PM

SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMTAAARDD SPOTTED!

Asking for a 5-10btc loan with no collateral, he says he has fiat but would prefer not to use it! Sure you wouldn't lol Caution must be taken and collateral must be demanded from this attempt. --> from his trust settings.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11255042

so you ask a 5-10btc loan before but wasn't able to get it, so you decided to try again with a smaller amount.

obviously idiot.

if its too big then you must adjust lower.

Why don't you just ask what you need? Plus why don't you just convert your fiat into btc since then you don't have to pay interest rates

thank you for approaching with respect

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Quote from: josephno1 on May 04, 2015, 09:34:31 PM

Quote from: FruitsBasket on May 04, 2015, 09:29:40 PM

SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMTAAARDD SPOTTED!

Asking for a 5-10btc loan with no collateral, he says he has fiat but would prefer not to use it! Sure you wouldn't lol Caution must be taken and collateral must be demanded from this attempt. --> from his trust settings.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11255042

so you ask a 5-10btc loan before but wasn't able to get it, so you decided to try again with a smaller amount.

obviously idiot.

if its too big then you must adjust lower.

Why don't you just ask what you need? Plus why don't you just convert your fiat into btc since then you don't have to pay interest rates

Because it takes 5 days and its my last bit of fiat until thursday. Im no fool, Ive thought this through over and over this weekend.

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Quote from: josephno1 on May 04, 2015, 09:34:31 PM

Quote from: FruitsBasket on May 04, 2015, 09:29:40 PM

SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMTAAARDD SPOTTED!

Asking for a 5-10btc loan with no collateral, he says he has fiat but would prefer not to use it! Sure you wouldn't lol Caution must be taken and collateral must be demanded from this attempt. --> from his trust settings.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11255042

so you ask a 5-10btc loan before but wasn't able to get it, so you decided to try again with a smaller amount.

obviously idiot.

if its too big then you must adjust lower.

Why don't you just ask what you need? Plus why don't you just convert your fiat into btc since then you don't have to pay interest rates

Please will you read before commenting with your sig ad?

Reading helps alot Roll Eyes

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Quote from: FruitsBasket on May 04, 2015, 09:29:40 PM

SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMTAAARDD SPOTTED!

Asking for a 5-10btc loan with no collateral, he says he has fiat but would prefer not to use it! Sure you wouldn't lol Caution must be taken and collateral must be demanded from this attempt. --> from his trust settings.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11255042

so you ask a 5-10btc loan before but wasn't able to get it, so you decided to try again with a smaller amount.

obviously idiot.

if its too big then you must adjust lower.

Why don't you just ask what you need? Plus why don't you just convert your fiat into btc since then you don't have to pay interest rates

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Quote from: FruitsBasket on May 04, 2015, 09:29:40 PM

SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMTAAARDD SPOTTED!

Asking for a 5-10btc loan with no collateral, he says he has fiat but would prefer not to use it! Sure you wouldn't lol Caution must be taken and collateral must be demanded from this attempt. --> from his trust settings.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11255042

so you ask a 5-10btc loan before but wasn't able to get it, so you decided to try again with a smaller amount.

obviously idiot.

if its too big then you must adjust lower.

YOU FUCKING IDIOT SHIT HEAD... GTFO out scammer trying to scam what you can possibly get here.. YOU MOTHERFUCKER PIECE OF SHIT

you've waived so many red flags MothaFucka!

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Quote from: FruitsBasket on May 04, 2015, 09:29:40 PM

SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMTAAARDD SPOTTED!

Asking for a 5-10btc loan with no collateral, he says he has fiat but would prefer not to use it! Sure you wouldn't lol Caution must be taken and collateral must be demanded from this attempt. --> from his trust settings.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11255042

so you ask a 5-10btc loan before but wasn't able to get it, so you decided to try again with a smaller amount.

obviously idiot.

if its too big then you must adjust lower.

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 09:28:10 PM

Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:27:04 PM

lol go to bed old man. If i wanted to steal MASSIVE amounts of btc, i would just host an ico and run. Sorry for doing things the legit, transparent way. laterz dude

Thank you for providing additional proof you are not a business person and probably some kid looking to scam.

"laterz"

haha you are acting like my grammar has been like that from start to finsih. will NOT lock the thread. do what you like.

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SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMTAAARDD SPOTTED!

Asking for a 5-10btc loan with no collateral, he says he has fiat but would prefer not to use it! Sure you wouldn't lol Caution must be taken and collateral must be demanded from this attempt. --> from his trust settings.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11255042

so you ask a 5-10btc loan before but wasn't able to get it, so you decided to try again with a smaller amount.

SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:27:04 PM

lol go to bed old man. If i wanted to steal MASSIVE amounts of btc, i would just host an ico and run. Sorry for doing things the legit, transparent way. laterz dude

Thank you for providing additional proof you are not a business person and probably some kid looking to scam.

Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 09:25:16 PM

I have fiat to convert to btc, but I am avoiding that at all costs.

If you are serious about releasing this coin, you'll have to use your own money. Undecided

"laterz"

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Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:22:40 PM

Obviously lol. I cannot do that. Just like you know nothing about me, I know absolutely nada, zilch about you. I cant give out personal info and contacts just like that, are you out of your mind?

Ok, fair enough. You've convinced me, and I hope everyone else as well.

lol go to bed old man. If i wanted to steal MASSIVE amounts of btc, i would just host an ico and run. Sorry for doing things the legit, transparent way. laterz dude

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"NO COLLATERAL, NO LOAN"

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Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:22:40 PM

Obviously lol. I cannot do that. Just like you know nothing about me, I know absolutely nada, zilch about you. I cant give out personal info and contacts just like that, are you out of your mind?

Ok, fair enough. You've convinced me, and I hope everyone else as well.

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 09:20:25 PM

Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:18:51 PM

Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 09:15:22 PM

Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:18:51 PM

Been there, done all of this. This is literally my last option. I think its sad Im even requesting a loan. I have fiat to convert to btc, but I am avoiding that at all costs. Now can you please please shut up and quit insulting me and let others think for themselves. Please?

I'm providing the necessary facts for people to think for themselves.

Tell you what - give me the names of the developers. I will contact them on your behalf and convince them to release the coin first. We'll discuss putting in a kill switch that will render the coin useless should you not pay them - that should work.

What are their names?

Lol you are no one no offense. I have a skype to skype bond with these guys and they still insist on following the path ive laid out for you before. When I tell you I have stressed every option, I have stressed every option. Stop playing superman, you are just Clark Roll Eyes

Look, are you serious about releasing this coin? I am giving you the ability to do so in an option you have not yet stressed.

Give me their skype names and I will contact them.

Obviously lol. I cannot do that. Just like you know nothing about me, I know absolutely nada, zilch about you. I cant give out personal info and contacts just like that, are you out of your mind?

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 09:15:22 PM

Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 09:15:22 PM

Been there, done all of this. This is literally my last option. I think its sad Im even requesting a loan. I have fiat to convert to btc, but I am avoiding that at all costs. Now can you please please shut up and quit insulting me and let others think for themselves. Please?

I'm providing the necessary facts for people to think for themselves.

Tell you what - give me the names of the developers. I will contact them on your behalf and convince them to release the coin first. We'll discuss putting in a kill switch that will render the coin useless should you not pay them - that should work.

What are their names?

Lol you are no one no offense. I have a skype to skype bond with these guys and they still insist on following the path ive laid out for you before. When I tell you I have stressed every option, I have stressed every option. Stop playing superman, you are just Clark Roll Eyes

Look, are you serious about releasing this coin? I am giving you the ability to do so in an option you have not yet stressed.

Give me their skype names and I will contact them.

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Been there, done all of this. This is literally my last option. I think its sad Im even requesting a loan. I have fiat to convert to btc, but I am avoiding that at all costs. Now can you please please shut up and quit insulting me and let others think for themselves. Please?

I'm providing the necessary facts for people to think for themselves.

Tell you what - give me the names of the developers. I will contact them on your behalf and convince them to release the coin first. We'll discuss putting in a kill switch that will render the coin useless should you not pay them - that should work.

What are their names?

Lol you are no one no offense. I have a skype to skype bond with these guys and they still insist on following the path ive laid out for you before. When I tell you I have stressed every option, I have stressed every option. Stop playing superman, you are just Clark Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 09:08:44 PM

Been there, done all of this. This is literally my last option. I think its sad Im even requesting a loan. I have fiat to convert to btc, but I am avoiding that at all costs. Now can you please please shut up and quit insulting me and let others think for themselves. Please?

I'm providing the necessary facts for people to think for themselves.

Tell you what - give me the names of the developers. I will contact them on your behalf and convince them to release the coin first. We'll discuss putting in a kill switch that will render the coin useless should you not pay them - that should work.

What are their names?

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Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:01:47 PM

Devs dont work like that. They require initial pay. Why am I spelling this out for you? You have already said no, with a spit to my face.

That's not true - many devs do initial work for pay afterwards.

Have you tried asking them? Unless they outright think you are a scammer, why wouldn't they release the code first? If they don't release it, they don't make anything. Have you offered to send them collateral to assure their concerns?

The point I'm making is there is a chain you should follow:

1) Ask to partner with the devs to release the coin then get paid
2) Ask family and friends to lend you the money - they see you everyday and they know you would pay them back.
3) Ask anonymous strangers to lend you irreversible funds.

Don't go about it backwards and don't pretend to be butthurt - are you running a business or are you just a foul mouthed child looking for free money?

Been there, done all of this. This is literally my last option. I think its sad Im even requesting a loan. I have fiat to convert to btc, but I am avoiding that at all costs. Now can you please please shut up and quit insulting me and let others think for themselves. Please?

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Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 09:01:47 PM

Devs dont work like that. They require initial pay. Why am I spelling this out for you? You have already said no, with a spit to my face.

That's not true - many devs do initial work for pay afterwards.

Have you tried asking them? Unless they outright think you are a scammer, why wouldn't they release the code first? If they don't release it, they don't make anything. Have you offered to send them collateral to assure their concerns?

The point I'm making is there is a chain you should follow:

1) Ask to partner with the devs to release the coin then get paid
2) Ask family and friends to lend you the money - they see you everyday and they know you would pay them back.
3) Ask anonymous strangers to lend you irreversible funds.

Don't go about it backwards and don't pretend to be butthurt - are you running a business or are you just a foul mouthed child looking for free money?

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 08:58:53 PM

Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 08:55:36 PM

The devs would not PAY ME when I recruited THEM to assist me in my project.

Not asking them to pay you.

Since you're working on this project together, and since you have one bitcoin coming in on the first day, simply ask them if you can pay them a day after they push the code. They don't need to give you any money upfront - they just need to trust you will pay them.

Devs dont work like that. They require initial pay. Why am I spelling this out for you? You have already said no, with a spit to my face.

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Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 08:55:36 PM

wow you are still fucking here?

The devs would not PAY ME when I recruited THEM to assist me in my project.

Not asking them to pay you.

Since you're working on this project together, and since you have one bitcoin coming in on the first day, simply ask them if you can pay them a day after they push the code. They don't need to give you any money upfront - they just need to trust you will pay them.

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 08:40:44 PM

Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 08:24:03 PM

Once the devs are payed they will push updates immediately. Like i said I HAVE BTC IN THE COIN. Once the coin gets moving I will have at least 1 btc, from day 1.

Let's approach this from a different perspective.

Do the devs trust you? Why not "borrow" the coin from them? Have them push the updates, earn your 1btc on day one, and pay them for their work. It's really a partnership between you and the developers - you don't need to bring outside parties in.

wow you are still fucking here?

The devs would not PAY ME when I recruited THEM to assist me in my project.

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Quote from: Kyle1836 on May 04, 2015, 08:45:42 PM

This has to be one of the most obvious scam attempts. "Let me borrow 2BTC to only use 0.75BTC so I can pay you back 0.1BTC a day". And I highly doubt it takes $460 to revive a dead coin, it doesn't even take that much to get one started...

yawnnnnn at the noob.

yawn

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This has to be one of the most obvious scam attempts. "Let me borrow 2BTC to only use 0.75BTC so I can pay you back 0.1BTC a day". And I highly doubt it takes $460 to revive a dead coin, it doesn't even take that much to get one started...

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Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 08:24:03 PM

Once the devs are payed they will push updates immediately. Like i said I HAVE BTC IN THE COIN. Once the coin gets moving I will have at least 1 btc, from day 1.

Let's approach this from a different perspective.

Do the devs trust you? Why not "borrow" the coin from them? Have them push the updates, earn your 1btc on day one, and pay them for their work. It's really a partnership between you and the developers - you don't need to bring outside parties in.

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 08:28:37 PM

Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 08:27:27 PM

Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 08:24:49 PM

Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 08:27:27 PM

If it's a guaranteed sure thing, then I'm sure your friends and family will be happy to sell their assets to support you. They know and trust you - we don't.

If it's not guaranteed and it's not a sure thing, then don't gamble with other people's coins.

Can't make it much clearer than that... Undecided

lmfao yet you guys lend btc to people to MINE. MINING is the biggest gamble. Its amazing you are still here replying to me, the scammer. Amazing.

You're the scammer who is actively trying to steal from my community. I don't give you guys free reign... I'll be here until you lock the thread.

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 08:24:49 PM

Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 08:24:49 PM

If it's a guaranteed sure thing, then I'm sure your friends and family will be happy to sell their assets to support you. They know and trust you - we don't.

If it's not guaranteed and it's not a sure thing, then don't gamble with other people's coins.

Can't make it much clearer than that... Undecided

lmfao yet you guys lend btc to people to MINE. MINING is the biggest gamble. Its amazing you are still here replying to me, the scammer. Amazing.

You're the scammer who is actively trying to steal from my community. I don't give you guys free reign... I'll be here until you lock the thread.

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If it's a guaranteed sure thing, then I'm sure your friends and family will be happy to sell their assets to support you. They know and trust you - we don't.

If it's not guaranteed and it's not a sure thing, then don't gamble with other people's coins.

Can't make it much clearer than that... Undecided

lmfao yet you guys lend btc to people to MINE. MINING is the biggest gamble. Its amazing you are still here replying to me, the scammer. Amazing.

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 08:19:42 PM

If it's a guaranteed sure thing, then I'm sure your friends and family will be happy to sell their assets to support you. They know and trust you - we don't.

If it's not guaranteed and it's not a sure thing, then don't gamble with other people's coins.

Can't make it much clearer than that... Undecided

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Hey, YOU are the one asking for 2btc when you admit you only need 0.75btc. The other 1.25btc will obviously go towards making 12 daily payments of 0.1btc just to show you won't scam....

I clearly, clearly, stated it will ALL be spent to turn the coin back on. It does not take more than just a few moments to profit in this world. Once the devs are payed they will push updates immediately. Like i said I HAVE BTC IN THE COIN. Once the coin gets moving I will have at least 1 btc, from day 1. Later dude. You are cocky as hell for no reason. Good day.

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Hey, YOU are the one asking for 2btc when you admit you only need 0.75btc. The other 1.25btc will obviously go towards making 12 daily payments of 0.1btc just to show you won't scam....

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Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 06:47:44 PM

Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 05:36:52 PM

Quote from: topcat363 on May 04, 2015, 06:47:44 PM

I have no collateral, hence the reason I am willing to send back a percentage daily.

LOGIC FAIL.

No collateral means you'll take the BTC and disappear, without making a single payment - whether it be tomorrow in a few months.

If you are willing to send 0.1btc back tomorrow, before you have a chance to use it, that means you didn't need to borrow it in the first place, right? Roll Eyes

No. I wasnt going to use it ALL at once, sir. There are a few steps that must be taken to get the coin back on track. I plan to host a giveaway via twitter with roughly .25 btc. I then plan on paying the two devs just to start, .25 btc. The remaining .25 btc would be invested directly into the coin itself. As soon as I open a new thread and host the giveaway, the coin WILL bloom in value. Just the news alone of the take over tripled the price temporarily. If you check my posts, I announced the take over well before I attempted to look for a btc loan. Like i stated before, I have my personal btc in the coin. There will be zero issues in following my plan.

The two red flags with this loan request are:

1) You saying you will pay back something tomorrow so you don't need collateral
2) You paying back coin tomorrow thereby asking for more coin than you actually need.

It would be the same thing if I went into a bank, bare ass broke, and asked for a loan of $100,000. "I'm good to repay it!" I would exclaim - "I'll send you $10,000 tomorrow just to prove it." Do you think the bank would fall for that?

You will need to provide collateral if you want this loan. The risk is just too great that you won't repay, and you should never gamble with borrowed money.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6311902

If it's a guaranteed sure thing, then I'm sure your friends and family will be happy to sell their assets to support you. They know and trust you - we don't.

Not my logic AT ALL. Your logic is rather flawed imo. I also said if you will try and tarnish my name do not comment. You are zero help. So thanks, but no thanks.

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Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 05:36:52 PM

Quote from: Vod on May 04, 2015, 05:36:52 PM

I have no collateral, hence the reason I am willing to send back a percentage daily.

LOGIC FAIL.

No collateral means you'll take the BTC and disappear, without making a single payment - whether it be tomorrow in a few months.

If you are willing to send 0.1btc back tomorrow, before you have a chance to use it, that means you didn't need to borrow it in the first place, right? Roll Eyes

No. I wasnt going to use it ALL at once, sir. There are a few steps that must be taken to get the coin back on track. I plan to host a giveaway via twitter with roughly .25 btc. I then plan on paying the two devs just to start, .25 btc. The remaining .25 btc would be invested directly into the coin itself. As soon as I open a new thread and host the giveaway, the coin WILL bloom in value. Just the news alone of the take over tripled the price temporarily. If you check my posts, I announced the take over well before I attempted to look for a btc loan. Like i stated before, I have my personal btc in the coin. There will be zero issues in following my plan.

The two red flags with this loan request are:

1) You saying you will pay back something tomorrow so you don't need collateral
2) You paying back coin tomorrow thereby asking for more coin than you actually need (0.75btc)

It would be the same thing if I went into a bank, bare ass broke, and asked for a loan of $100,000. "I'm good to repay it!" I would exclaim - "I'll send you $10,000 tomorrow just to prove it." Do you think the bank would fall for that?

You will need to provide collateral if you want this loan. The risk is just too great that you won't repay, and you should never gamble with borrowed money.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6311902

If it's a guaranteed sure thing, then I'm sure your friends and family will be happy to sell their assets to support you. They know and trust you - we don't.

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I have no collateral, hence the reason I am willing to send back a percentage daily.

LOGIC FAIL.

No collateral means you'll take the BTC and disappear, without making a single payment - whether it be tomorrow in a few months.

If you are willing to send 0.1btc back tomorrow, before you have a chance to use it, that means you didn't need to borrow it in the first place, right? Roll Eyes

No. I wasnt going to use it ALL at once, sir. There are a few steps that must be taken to get the coin back on track. I plan to host a giveaway via twitter with roughly .25 btc. I then plan on paying the two devs just to start, .25 btc. The remaining .25 btc would be invested directly into the coin itself. As soon as I open a new thread and host the giveaway, the coin WILL bloom in value. Just the news alone of the take over tripled the price temporarily. If you check my posts, I announced the take over well before I attempted to look for a btc loan. Like i stated before, I have my personal btc in the coin. There will be zero issues in following my plan.

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