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Topic: TAX UK: I did all my trades in EUR, but need to report to HMRC in GBP, any tip ? (Read 149 times)

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If this is for your self assessment tax returns you should have a filed returns for 2017-18 and 2018-19 already. Going by the information you stated it might be far better for you to use all crypto related  profit/loss in one place using one transaction rather than spreading it out for all fiat to crypto and crypto to fiat trades.

Quite simply, tally up everything you sent and received in those 200 fiat to crypto trades in EURO, calculate whether you made a profit or a loss. If you made a loss then that is that but if you made a profit you can use the EURO figure with an average exchange rate to get your GBP final profit/loss figure. You can also go a step further by looking at exchange rates from EURO/GBP and GBP/EURO for each transaction to get a very accurate figure otherwise simply go with an average figure.

As long as your crypto and not been converted to fiat and is sitting in a wallet you do not have to calculate any tax for them but the moment they are converted to fiat you must declare it.

Sorry but that is not correct. HMRC does not care if you trade fiat to crypto or crypto to crypto, if you made a gain of more than the 12k allowance you have to pay capital gains tax. Even if you just traded crypto to crypto and did not cash out to Fiat!

i have my calculations for the past 3 tax years in EUR in cointracking and only one of them has a profit which is within the 12k CGT allowance, so there was nothing to declare so far. But i am asking as i expect to cash out more in the next bull cycle and it will be probably over the allowance.

 
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If this is for your self assessment tax returns you should have a filed returns for 2017-18 and 2018-19 already. Going by the information you stated it might be far better for you to use all crypto related  profit/loss in one place using one transaction rather than spreading it out for all fiat to crypto and crypto to fiat trades.

Quite simply, tally up everything you sent and received in those 200 fiat to crypto trades in EURO, calculate whether you made a profit or a loss. If you made a loss then that is that but if you made a profit you can use the EURO figure with an average exchange rate to get your GBP final profit/loss figure. You can also go a step further by looking at exchange rates from EURO/GBP and GBP/EURO for each transaction to get a very accurate figure otherwise simply go with an average figure.

As long as your crypto and not been converted to fiat and is sitting in a wallet you do not have to calculate any tax for them but the moment they are converted to fiat you must declare it.


hey guys

I am using cointracking.info to track my trades and talked to their support already, they told me i have to change my account currency from EUR to GBP and then enter all my EUR trades manually but in GBP. This will take me easily a whole weekend, as i did more than 1000 trades since 2017.

i checked my trades, and i have close to 200 Fiat to crypto (and vice versa) trades in EUR, the rest is crypto to crypto so i guess for the latter ones i don´t have to do anything, no ?

Does anyone know a better way of doing this ? or a different software that can handle that ?
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Actually forgot about this - bittytax - think it’s UK and I think it will do the conversions too ?
Haven’t used it myself , but it’s had some very good reviews .
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You could get - FreeAgent - it will automatically do all the conversions for you . If you bank with NatWest it’s free , if  not it’s not very expensive .
I don’t work for them , but I do use it . Takes a little while to get used to it , but after that it’s really easy to use.
Hope this helps

nice, i check it out thank you.

actually i was thinking, if I change the account currency in cointracking to GBP and then manually edit the 200 Fiat trades from EUR to GBP by looking up the GBP value at that date it should also work, no? the crypto to crypto trades i can just leave
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You could get - FreeAgent - it will automatically do all the conversions for you . If you bank with NatWest it’s free , if  not it’s not very expensive .
I don’t work for them , but I do use it . Takes a little while to get used to it , but after that it’s really easy to use.
Hope this helps
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hey guys

I am using cointracking.info to track my trades and talked to their support already, they told me i have to change my account currency from EUR to GBP and then enter all my EUR trades manually but in GBP. This will take me easily a whole weekend, as i did more than 1000 trades since 2017.

i checked my trades, and i have close to 200 Fiat to crypto (and vice versa) trades in EUR, the rest is crypto to crypto so i guess for the latter ones i don´t have to do anything, no ?

Does anyone know a better way of doing this ? or a different software that can handle that ?



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