Topic: Telegram Dice Gambling Bot (BTC/LTC/DOGE) (Read 483 times)

Quote from: slaman29 on July 22, 2018, 10:26:58 AM

Your game is pretty good as I can see but how can we know that it is a provably fair? Can we verify our bet here? Because this is based on telegram so I think it is pretty hard to run a verifier. And btw is there any minimal and maximal bet for each coin? You need to provide everything to open a new site though. And last is about your house edge, how much is it?

Thanks for the comment. As for your concerns, we are thinking to do a smart contract on the blockchain in the future so that users are able to verify them. As for min and max bet, yes we have them and you can see how much it is for each type of coin in the bot. So basically, you dont need to manually key in the amount, there are a few options to tap on. As of now for the beginning, there is no house edge but all that will be implemented in the future should this take off.

In my opinion, I think those things that should happen in the future are essential things that should have been put in place from the first place even before launching. The entire blockchain is based on transparency and this is one unique way to build trust in any service you are rendering. If you are launching a service that this is not inbuilt, how else do I have the assurance that I am not being cheated if there is no way to verify it. I think you need to move the timeline of that "future" closer if the business would would live to enjoy the patronage that would sustain it into that future.

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Quote from: BTCevo on July 22, 2018, 10:07:33 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on July 22, 2018, 10:26:58 AM

Im not sure what can you offer players to gamble in telegram which is very difficult to navigate comparing to web based gambling sites that has colorful and lively pictures.

Actually what do you exactly need for gambling on dice? You want to get profit instead of wagering amount right? Then I can say telegram dice is one of the best choice because you do not need to rush and you can play everywhere when you feel like to. Of course this is no for big whalento play here, may be some micro and middle one going to play here. And if I not mistakrn they have pretty good max payout for their dice game, so if you think you want to play with low amount, it is the best way

Not really. A lot of us dice gamblers also stick to one site because of the wagering amounts it builds up for us. BitDice, Bitvest, Crypto-Games, they all give some kind of added advantage to loyal players. Some like the bigger faucets, some like the higher speeds, some like the extra rakeback, others just like to show off their levels. For me, I don't rely on the bonuses but when you're playing every day, even the 1% more you earn from bonuses adds up. 100 days is 100%.

So yes, that's something Telegram can never give out. In addition to so many other things. Like Provably Fair.

Ok I agree with you but only if you are aiming for faucet and some extra rakeback on their site and may be it is worth to wager on their site and claimed all of those bonuses but what I played is aim for profit so it does not really matter to me if I have small wager, as long as there is a chance profit then I will try it for sure. More over if there is a promotion like this holding on. I am sure it is profitable although it just a small amount there

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Quote from: BTCevo on July 22, 2018, 10:07:33 AM

Quote from: BTCevo on July 22, 2018, 10:07:33 AM

Im not sure what can you offer players to gamble in telegram which is very difficult to navigate comparing to web based gambling sites that has colorful and lively pictures.

Actually what do you exactly need for gambling on dice? You want to get profit instead of wagering amount right? Then I can say telegram dice is one of the best choice because you do not need to rush and you can play everywhere when you feel like to. Of course this is no for big whalento play here, may be some micro and middle one going to play here. And if I not mistakrn they have pretty good max payout for their dice game, so if you think you want to play with low amount, it is the best way

Not really. A lot of us dice gamblers also stick to one site because of the wagering amounts it builds up for us. BitDice, Bitvest, Crypto-Games, they all give some kind of added advantage to loyal players. Some like the bigger faucets, some like the higher speeds, some like the extra rakeback, others just like to show off their levels. For me, I don't rely on the bonuses but when you're playing every day, even the 1% more you earn from bonuses adds up. 100 days is 100%.

So yes, that's something Telegram can never give out. In addition to so many other things. Like Provably Fair.

I agree,most of the dice sites are trying to keep loyal players and also are building
or at least trying to build a community around the site
this means chat,forum,sometimes a blog,competitions,promotions etc.
you cannot do that with a telegram bot,unless you enjoy chatting to yourself

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Im not sure what can you offer players to gamble in telegram which is very difficult to navigate comparing to web based gambling sites that has colorful and lively pictures.

Actually what do you exactly need for gambling on dice? You want to get profit instead of wagering amount right? Then I can say telegram dice is one of the best choice because you do not need to rush and you can play everywhere when you feel like to. Of course this is no for big whalento play here, may be some micro and middle one going to play here. And if I not mistakrn they have pretty good max payout for their dice game, so if you think you want to play with low amount, it is the best way

Not really. A lot of us dice gamblers also stick to one site because of the wagering amounts it builds up for us. BitDice, Bitvest, Crypto-Games, they all give some kind of added advantage to loyal players. Some like the bigger faucets, some like the higher speeds, some like the extra rakeback, others just like to show off their levels. For me, I don't rely on the bonuses but when you're playing every day, even the 1% more you earn from bonuses adds up. 100 days is 100%.

So yes, that's something Telegram can never give out. In addition to so many other things. Like Provably Fair.

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Quote from: veleten on July 20, 2018, 11:13:12 AM

Im not sure what can you offer players to gamble in telegram which is very difficult to navigate comparing to web based gambling sites that has colorful and lively pictures.

Actually what do you exactly need for gambling on dice? You want to get profit instead of wagering amount right? Then I can say telegram dice is one of the best choice because you do not need to rush and you can play everywhere when you feel like to. Of course this is no for big whalento play here, may be some micro and middle one going to play here. And if I not mistakrn they have pretty good max payout for their dice game, so if you think you want to play with low amount, it is the best way

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Im not sure what can you offer players to gamble in telegram which is very difficult to navigate comparing to web based gambling sites that has colorful and lively pictures.

not everyone wants to go to a specialized gambling site,register there etc.
they do not compete with the monsters like PD,Bitsler,c-games etc.
they are trying to get some people who are using telegram and would like to put an occasional smallish bet or two
but yes,the target audience is very limited and I don't think it is going to be any success,frankly

They do already know that they dont have a match for those sites who have been here for a while and its just useless to think for them to compete since they are still relying on Telegram dice bot not really the same with casual dice sites that do operate independently and already established reputation after all these years and we do see lots of sites similar to these but end up on disappearing because its not really fun at all to play with just a basic chat command or clicking.

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Quote from: ubersnuggy on July 16, 2018, 01:08:14 AM

Im not sure what can you offer players to gamble in telegram which is very difficult to navigate comparing to web based gambling sites that has colorful and lively pictures.

not everyone wants to go to a specialized gambling site,register there etc.
they do not compete with the monsters like PD,Bitsler,c-games etc.
they are trying to get some people who are using telegram and would like to put an occasional smallish bet or two
but yes,the target audience is very limited and I don't think it is going to be any success,frankly

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Im not sure what can you offer players to gamble in telegram which is very difficult to navigate comparing to web based gambling sites that has colorful and lively pictures.

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Quote from: Iluka on July 15, 2018, 08:59:14 PM

I don't think you can really win something big...

The point of this is for fun. Just like with any gambling. You're not supposed to sell your house and make something big from gambling usually Wink

This is true, you do not nees to stress thst about being lose on gambling because it always set to that because you can't win from banker. You just need to enjoy your game and the competition and this is what make your adrenaline rush and that is the joy thing. But when you do not expect anything from it then the lucky charm will come and let you hit big

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Quote from: Iluka on July 15, 2018, 08:59:14 PM

I don't think you can really win something big...

The point of this is for fun. Just like with any gambling. You're not supposed to sell your house and make something big from gambling usually Wink

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I don't think you can really win something big...

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Quote from: sunsilk on July 12, 2018, 11:56:13 PM

Quote from: veleten on July 13, 2018, 01:53:42 PM

Is this still working or not??? No responses from the bot. I tried to run it on my telegram desktop version but it's been unresponsive from the start. From my experience, I don't trust telegram bots but, just wanted to check it out.

I don't think this is a good place to play dice. I don't feel dicing on telegram is just like the usual way of dicing.

Unlike the other reliable dice sites, there are some issues that you can encounter with this bot. As you can see with the other issues above, it isn't stable.

I won't trust and try this dice site too but the idea of making a dice site/bot on telegram was smart.

This is actually depends on each person, some of them like it and some of them dont, so you can't really force someone to play when they do not like it. Anyway, if you compare this to the real dice site of course they have so much different which is more easier to bet on dice site because they can support everything including bot mean while telegram bot can't do that but it is still playable and it is prettt good to have this kind of telegram dice game

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Quote from: kryptqnick on July 13, 2018, 01:20:25 PM

Quote from: kryptqnick on July 13, 2018, 01:20:25 PM

Is this still working or not??? No responses from the bot. I tried to run it on my telegram desktop version but it's been unresponsive from the start. From my experience, I don't trust telegram bots but, just wanted to check it out.

I tested this bot before and I just tried to start a conversation again. It looks fully operational to me, it responds instantly. The dialogue, however, still seems a bit unappealing, as the bot asks one to deposit at least 0.0001 btc. It is almost nothing, I agree, but the even more disturbing fact is that the minimum withdrawal sum is 5 times as much. I really think some kind of a free mode or a small faucet is needed, because how can one deposit money without knowing how things will go afterwards with a bot?

well,you cannot really test it fully without depositing,playing and then successfully withdrawing something
but I would treat it as a novelty and a fun,unusual way to lose your 10-100k satoshi rather than a place to gamble
among the usual questions of minimal withdrawal and such,there is a question of provably fair too
if the owner could explain how can we verify that the rolls are fair and not manipulated in any way?

Question always circling on my mind about the provably fairness of this game yet it cant show of some details that we can able to verify if those results are fair or not manipulated.
I'll follow this thread and might admin would give an answer to that or else telegram dice bot developer would only able to tell about this detail?

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Is this still working or not??? No responses from the bot. I tried to run it on my telegram desktop version but it's been unresponsive from the start. From my experience, I don't trust telegram bots but, just wanted to check it out.

I tested this bot before and I just tried to start a conversation again. It looks fully operational to me, it responds instantly. The dialogue, however, still seems a bit unappealing, as the bot asks one to deposit at least 0.0001 btc. It is almost nothing, I agree, but the even more disturbing fact is that the minimum withdrawal sum is 5 times as much. I really think some kind of a free mode or a small faucet is needed, because how can one deposit money without knowing how things will go afterwards with a bot?

well,you cannot really test it fully without depositing,playing and then successfully withdrawing something
but I would treat it as a novelty and a fun,unusual way to lose your 10-100k satoshi rather than a place to gamble
among the usual questions of minimal withdrawal and such,there is a question of provably fair too
if the owner could explain how can we verify that the rolls are fair and not manipulated in any way?

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Is this still working or not??? No responses from the bot. I tried to run it on my telegram desktop version but it's been unresponsive from the start. From my experience, I don't trust telegram bots but, just wanted to check it out.

I tested this bot before and I just tried to start a conversation again. It looks fully operational to me, it responds instantly. The dialogue, however, still seems a bit unappealing, as the bot asks one to deposit at least 0.0001 btc. It is almost nothing, I agree, but the even more disturbing fact is that the minimum withdrawal sum is 5 times as much. I really think some kind of a free mode or a small faucet is needed, because how can one deposit money without knowing how things will go afterwards with a bot?

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Quote from: kryptqnick on July 10, 2018, 09:22:24 AM

Is this still working or not??? No responses from the bot. I tried to run it on my telegram desktop version but it's been unresponsive from the start. From my experience, I don't trust telegram bots but, just wanted to check it out.

I don't think this is a good place to play dice. I don't feel dicing on telegram is just like the usual way of dicing.

Unlike the other reliable dice sites, there are some issues that you can encounter with this bot. As you can see with the other issues above, it isn't stable.

I won't trust and try this dice site too but the idea of making a dice site/bot on telegram was smart.

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Is this still working or not??? No responses from the bot. I tried to run it on my telegram desktop version but it's been unresponsive from the start. From my experience, I don't trust telegram bots but, just wanted to check it out.

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Dice bot is a cool idea, but I think you could attract more gamblers if there were some random giveaways or partial compensations for those who lost a lot of money. A small faucet for trying out the bot would also be an improvement.

I hope you can really increase this numbers later. And about the house edge, you are saying you do not implemented it yet, so you tell us that is 50% chance to win this or what? Because there is no way a gambling system without any house edge, so please consider this

Why iusn't there? House edge is just something that is usually present in online casinos but it doesn't mean that it is necessary. Even at strict 50/50 chances people still lose quite a lot of money and I bet the casino could be successful like that.

I do not think they want to make amy improvement for the faucet, if they improve it by adding or lowering the time to claim, many abuser will come to grab it and never intended to make a deposit. And about the house edge, I think this is the only way for casino to have profit, without the house edge, I do not think that they can improve their game or their bankroll as well. This is pretty important for them to have it. May be for now they can still manage it, but they can't do this for long

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Dice bot is a cool idea, but I think you could attract more gamblers if there were some random giveaways or partial compensations for those who lost a lot of money. A small faucet for trying out the bot would also be an improvement.

Quote from: pocrypto on July 10, 2018, 06:12:13 AM

I hope you can really increase this numbers later. And about the house edge, you are saying you do not implemented it yet, so you tell us that is 50% chance to win this or what? Because there is no way a gambling system without any house edge, so please consider this

Why iusn't there? House edge is just something that is usually present in online casinos but it doesn't mean that it is necessary. Even at strict 50/50 chances people still lose quite a lot of money and I bet the casino could be successful like that.

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Good idea but not convenient for users, good luck!

there are plenty of other sites specialized on dicing
this one is made for those who want to put an occasional bet or two on telegram
think this idea is not very new too,duckdice introduced their own telegram bot not so long ago
it wasn't very popular at all,despite the promotional offers they had-people just took the free money offered and forgot about it

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Good idea but not convenient for users, good luck!

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on June 20, 2018, 03:00:03 PM

Coin / Min bet / Max bet / Withdrawal

Bitcoin / 0.0001 / 0.03 / 0.0005
Lite Coin / 0.001 / 4 / 0.01
Dogecoin / 100 / 200000 / 5

These numbers or limitations isnt appealing at all to play or to try that telegram dice game.

Ive chosen bitcoin on deposit but it gives me this message.

Bummer, something went really wrong here. Our devs are looking into this, just try again in a while!

Thanks for your feedback, the max bet for BTC is actually 0.3 and dogecoin is 500,000. We set these limits to make sure this stays as a casual game for people to do on the go without too much risk or commitment.

The error is fixed and you should be able to get a deposit address now, sorry for that!

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Quote from: milewilda on June 20, 2018, 09:32:38 AM

Didnt check out yet the telegram dice gambling bot. So you had mentioned this would be still on 50% chance on winning and losing since theres no house edge on these days but the thing i do ask also is on how to verify bets?
Let me ask you this, how would you compete into those dice sites which do have their own site? Playing this game on a telegram bot is very awkward in my part and for sure for other players too.

We developed this mostly for users to play on the go or with limited internet speed. Different than web apps you don't need to download anything or need a separate account to gamble in between doing things or on the go with our bot since it is integrated in Telegram.

We do plan to launch ETH with smart contracts in the future, so you could verify it through that.

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Coin / Min bet / Max bet / Withdrawal

Bitcoin / 0.0001 / 0.03 / 0.0005
Lite Coin / 0.001 / 4 / 0.01
Dogecoin / 100 / 200000 / 5

These numbers or limitations isnt appealing at all to play or to try that telegram dice game.

Ive chosen bitcoin on deposit but it gives me this message.

Bummer, something went really wrong here. Our devs are looking into this, just try again in a while!

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Quote from: milewilda on June 20, 2018, 09:32:38 AM

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Quote from: ubersnuggy on June 19, 2018, 11:41:04 PM

Your game is pretty good as I can see but how can we know that it is a provably fair? Can we verify our bet here? Because this is based on telegram so I think it is pretty hard to run a verifier. And btw is there any minimal and maximal bet for each coin? You need to provide everything to open a new site though. And last is about your house edge, how much is it?

Thanks for the comment. As for your concerns, we are thinking to do a smart contract on the blockchain in the future so that users are able to verify them. As for min and max bet, yes we have them and you can see how much it is for each type of coin in the bot. So basically, you dont need to manually key in the amount, there are a few options to tap on. As of now for the beginning, there is no house edge but all that will be implemented in the future should this take off.

I already checked your bot and it looks like pretty normal for a dice bot here. But it is pretty iritated my eyes when I saw the max bet and it is only 0.03 btc/ 4 ltc and 200k doge. I hope you can really increase this numbers later. And about the house edge, you are saying you do not implemented it yet, so you tell us that is 50% chance to win this or what? Because there is no way a gambling system without any house edge, so please consider this

Well obviously its small for now. Numbers will be increased later if there are more people using. As of now, there is no house edge since we just started. But later on we will have it implemented.

Didnt check out yet the telegram dice gambling bot. So you had mentioned this would be still on 50% chance on winning and losing since theres no house edge on these days but the thing i do ask also is on how to verify bets?
Let me ask you this, how would you compete into those dice sites which do have their own site? Playing this game on a telegram bot is very awkward in my part and for sure for other players too.

I have seen some dice games based on telegram bot already and all I can say is that it is not really attractive to play dice game in telegram. I'm sure people will prefer to use dice site because it is simple than using telegram bot. Telegram dice bot is not really friendly for both whales or small players. Whales will not be able to bet big amount and small players wont be able to use autobetting while betting with small amount as it wont be fun to play in telegram because they need to bet one by one manually.

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Quote from: ubersnuggy on June 18, 2018, 09:13:57 AM

Your game is pretty good as I can see but how can we know that it is a provably fair? Can we verify our bet here? Because this is based on telegram so I think it is pretty hard to run a verifier. And btw is there any minimal and maximal bet for each coin? You need to provide everything to open a new site though. And last is about your house edge, how much is it?

Thanks for the comment. As for your concerns, we are thinking to do a smart contract on the blockchain in the future so that users are able to verify them. As for min and max bet, yes we have them and you can see how much it is for each type of coin in the bot. So basically, you dont need to manually key in the amount, there are a few options to tap on. As of now for the beginning, there is no house edge but all that will be implemented in the future should this take off.

I already checked your bot and it looks like pretty normal for a dice bot here. But it is pretty iritated my eyes when I saw the max bet and it is only 0.03 btc/ 4 ltc and 200k doge. I hope you can really increase this numbers later. And about the house edge, you are saying you do not implemented it yet, so you tell us that is 50% chance to win this or what? Because there is no way a gambling system without any house edge, so please consider this

Well obviously its small for now. Numbers will be increased later if there are more people using. As of now, there is no house edge since we just started. But later on we will have it implemented.

Didnt check out yet the telegram dice gambling bot. So you had mentioned this would be still on 50% chance on winning and losing since theres no house edge on these days but the thing i do ask also is on how to verify bets?
Let me ask you this, how would you compete into those dice sites which do have their own site? Playing this game on a telegram bot is very awkward in my part and for sure for other players too.

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Quote from: ubersnuggy on June 18, 2018, 09:13:57 AM

Quote from: ubersnuggy on June 18, 2018, 09:13:57 AM

Your game is pretty good as I can see but how can we know that it is a provably fair? Can we verify our bet here? Because this is based on telegram so I think it is pretty hard to run a verifier. And btw is there any minimal and maximal bet for each coin? You need to provide everything to open a new site though. And last is about your house edge, how much is it?

Thanks for the comment. As for your concerns, we are thinking to do a smart contract on the blockchain in the future so that users are able to verify them. As for min and max bet, yes we have them and you can see how much it is for each type of coin in the bot. So basically, you dont need to manually key in the amount, there are a few options to tap on. As of now for the beginning, there is no house edge but all that will be implemented in the future should this take off.

I already checked your bot and it looks like pretty normal for a dice bot here. But it is pretty iritated my eyes when I saw the max bet and it is only 0.03 btc/ 4 ltc and 200k doge. I hope you can really increase this numbers later. And about the house edge, you are saying you do not implemented it yet, so you tell us that is 50% chance to win this or what? Because there is no way a gambling system without any house edge, so please consider this

Well obviously its small for now. Numbers will be increased later if there are more people using. As of now, there is no house edge since we just started. But later on we will have it implemented.

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Your game is pretty good as I can see but how can we know that it is a provably fair? Can we verify our bet here? Because this is based on telegram so I think it is pretty hard to run a verifier. And btw is there any minimal and maximal bet for each coin? You need to provide everything to open a new site though. And last is about your house edge, how much is it?

Thanks for the comment. As for your concerns, we are thinking to do a smart contract on the blockchain in the future so that users are able to verify them. As for min and max bet, yes we have them and you can see how much it is for each type of coin in the bot. So basically, you dont need to manually key in the amount, there are a few options to tap on. As of now for the beginning, there is no house edge but all that will be implemented in the future should this take off.

I already checked your bot and it looks like pretty normal for a dice bot here. But it is pretty iritated my eyes when I saw the max bet and it is only 0.03 btc/ 4 ltc and 200k doge. I hope you can really increase this numbers later. And about the house edge, you are saying you do not implemented it yet, so you tell us that is 50% chance to win this or what? Because there is no way a gambling system without any house edge, so please consider this

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