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Topic: Telegram security - privacy is useless (Read 155 times)

newbie
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September 14, 2018, 12:04:25 PM
#8
Each day I get added to 10-20 new channels I have no idea what they are.  Most are in languages I do not understand.  Hard to believe in 2018 we can just be auto added to groups with no control over it.  I believe if this issue is not fixed Telegram will have competition chomping at it's heels. 
newbie
Activity: 42
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September 10, 2018, 07:05:23 AM
#7
So you download the app and it wants full permissions to everything on your phone
and then they want you to provide a phone number and do phone verification (that did not work)

How is this supposed to be protecting my privacy or security and I am also picking up from the
Russia debate that keys are released to some governments but not others and why are all messages by default
not using end to end encryption.

I am well un impressed and was it to be built well and to be decentralized then no one would give a flying fart
about Russia trying to block the service or anyone else so it look like if you want a job done right then best do it
yourself.

I was thinking about linking the network I am working on to "Telegram" but it seems that it cannot meet the basic
requirements or being anonymous if it's tied to a phone number so what other networks (if any) should I take a peek at.

Most people are tying to take advantages from software weaknesses so it is our responsibility to take precautions before something happens.
jr. member
Activity: 106
Merit: 6
April 18, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
#6
If you use a smartphone at all those things are just straight up spying devices, built in cameras and microphones, when will people wake up?
member
Activity: 210
Merit: 26
High fees = low BTC price
April 18, 2018, 09:07:49 AM
#5
spammers texting us seeking for the information of our private and public addresses.

I am looking at the address being your public key address, not email, not phone number or IP and spammers
would be free to create a million addresses on the fly to send spam so thanks for bringing this up because one
way or another I am going have to deal with this but i don't think there is going to be a perfect solution in anything
that is remotely decentralized and even with semi-trusted node clusters it's not going to be a easy one to solve.

So far i have got distributed node discovery working but without mega big servers it's not going to scale to
more than a few hundred million nodes and VPN type SOCK4/5 working but the encryption after the handshake is
useless and then I need file shares and super secure private messages to work on this network.

Bridge too far for one man to do on his own, could do with some help!

  
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
April 18, 2018, 08:39:50 AM
#4
Yes you are correct. According to my perspective the privacy of telegram is not up to the mark. we may face some unknown spammers texting us seeking for the information of our private and public addresses. For instance you may have received a message from the account named DELETED ACCOUNT. Its up-to us to use it in a more safer manner.
member
Activity: 210
Merit: 26
High fees = low BTC price
April 18, 2018, 08:26:36 AM
#3
Security is compromised everywhere so have to be careful.

Yes i am getting that and sending a key  and vi to a windows machine and then using Microsoft
black box code to decrypt the messages is not the route I will be taking but it looks like that is
what everyone else is doing.

Secp256k1 is second to none and you can make your own keys without having to trust anyone
but it's only good for 512 bytes and i need a bit more size than that but i can tell you now that I don't
need your phone number, credit card details to do this.
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
April 18, 2018, 08:15:05 AM
#2
Security is compromised everywhere so have to be careful.
member
Activity: 210
Merit: 26
High fees = low BTC price
April 18, 2018, 08:13:45 AM
#1
So you download the app and it wants full permissions to everything on your phone
and then they want you to provide a phone number and do phone verification (that did not work)

How is this supposed to be protecting my privacy or security and I am also picking up from the
Russia debate that keys are released to some governments but not others and why are all messages by default
not using end to end encryption.

I am well un impressed and was it to be built well and to be decentralized then no one would give a flying fart
about Russia trying to block the service or anyone else so it look like if you want a job done right then best do it
yourself.

I was thinking about linking the network I am working on to "Telegram" but it seems that it cannot meet the basic
requirements or being anonymous if it's tied to a phone number so what other networks (if any) should I take a peek at.
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