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Quote from: Anguwa on February 06, 2022, 05:38:14 AM

These trading tips and advice sound very good, and they're probably the right direction for new traders. I find these tips very encouraging because I can see some of the mistakes I've made and some of the things I've overlooked while trying to make a profit, and I've also learned the value of taking risks. Such advise is excellent and I recommend it to all beginners in cryptocurrency trading in order to minimize loss.

The last item - 10 - stated that about 3-4 yrs time is the logical time to expect profit. This is where a lot of traders, new traders in particular, are thinking it wrong. Because most of them want their profits at the very start of their journey. They thought getting on board in crypto market is an easy peasy work. And then, they realized that there's more than meets the eyes in this market. One needs familiarity with the market especially the coins he decided to get involved with. It is also a matter of time before one can grasp what's going on in this market.

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and I've also learned the value of taking risks.
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Take note that it is not all risk that is valuable and worthy to go after. Like number 8 of Op talking about not chasing breakout, this is risky to do because you can take the risk of chasing the market but it goes back against you. Break outs are very risky to trade, anything can happen with such and is better not to take a risk that you can not recover from in a longtime.

but before we trade, of course we have taken into account the support or resistance area, if there is a breakout later, of course there will be a change in trend. and I think we have to understand this in order to be able to do a cutloss if the resistance is broken by the breakout candle. therefore this is where what is meant by trading is an opportunity, and if we are wrong with the initial strategy then we can run other strategies, according to the market that is happening

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Quote from: Anguwa on February 06, 2022, 05:38:14 AM

and I've also learned the value of taking risks.
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Take note that it is not all risk that is valuable and worthy to go after. Like number 8 of Op talking about not chasing breakout, this is risky to do because you can take the risk of chasing the market but it goes back against you. Break outs are very risky to trade, anything can happen with such and is better not to take a risk that you can not recover from in a longtime.

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These trading tips and advice sound very good, and they're probably the right direction for new traders. I find these tips very encouraging because I can see some of the mistakes I've made and some of the things I've overlooked while trying to make a profit, and I've also learned the value of taking risks. Such advise is excellent and I recommend it to all beginners in cryptocurrency trading in order to minimize loss.
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Quote from: The Cryptovator on January 27, 2022, 01:54:39 PM

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4. Which indicators to use? Horizontal S/R is the most logical kind of tool
8. If you miss a breakout, don't chase it.

Source: https://twitter.com/EmperorBTC/status/1486348522408808457

I like those two. They're really instructive for me, and that's true. The best points to trade from are Support & Resistance and Breakout (BOs). However, it's not good to play catchup with the market once one misses the bus. Wait for another. There are many others approaching. But anxious or noob traders think every missed opportunity won't repeat itself. Don't rue a missed Break Out. There are always countless BOs waiting to be taken.

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Anyone who does that has the spirit of witchcraft. Whether they argue it or not, that's what they have. Teaching someone how to earn to prosper shouldn't light up jealousy in anyone. After all, the air is too big for every bird to perch. But I get your point. I've also observed that attitude in people, both those around me and those online.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on January 29, 2022, 07:10:49 PM

I really like the number 10 lesson, which really talks about consistency and dedication, this is one of the most mistakes of newbies, they intended to stop after a few trades or don't have consistency, and keep complaining.

Because some people left trading is the reason they were able to get successful, trading is not the only way to make it in life, if some people were dedicated and continue to lose and leave it for holding or others part of life that can make them successful, there is nothing bad to leave trading then. That is why new traders are advised to use the amount of money they can afford to lose for trading, so at least if they lose, it won't be much and if they continue to lose, they can decide to continue to trade or not.

Quote from: cabron on January 29, 2022, 10:35:29 PM

Crypto trading is very different to learn compared to the forex market where there are free trading strategies to be used immediately by newbies and then from there they can just learn how the market works. The Crypto market is different where traders learn from scratch while the project teams can be hostile to their investors as well.

You have said it, best for new traders to trade bitcoin instead of altcoins that can easily liquidate their money. Some altcoins can be manipulated also in a way if not favoring the direction of traders, it will cause money used for the trade to finally be liquidated.

Quote from: Zilon on January 30, 2022, 04:27:31 PM

I strongly buy into 4. And 8. 4 which states the best indicator that could be most reliable. Buying at support and selling at resistance is just a secure way to make good profit trading like wise 8 which advices on chasing missed trade it could be too dangerous and could also be a big market trap. Just the same way joining a moving train could cause damages so is the case trying to chase a trade. If you miss it let it go

I do not use indicator, but I can easily know the support and resistance level, like recently the support level for bitcoin is around $38000, it was around $37500 two days ago. But this does not mean the market can not go other way in an extreme volatile market, but this can help many times.

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I strongly buy into 4. And 8. 4 which states the best indicator that could be most reliable. Buying at support and selling at resistance is just a secure way to make good profit trading like wise 8 which advices on chasing missed trade it could be too dangerous and could also be a big market trap. Just the same way joining a moving train could cause damages so is the case trying to chase a trade. If you miss it let it go

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Quote from: cabron on January 29, 2022, 10:35:29 PM

Crypto trading is very different to learn compared to the forex market where there are free trading strategies to be used immediately by newbies and then from there they can just learn how the market works. The Crypto market is different where traders learn from scratch while the project teams can be hostile to their investors as well.

Obviously, the forex market has been around for centuries and the crypto market is barely just over a decade old, not just speaking about the creation of Bitcoin but when crypto trading became a serious profession that one can embark on for daily earnings. With time the crypto market will catch up and all there's in forex like the free trading strategies etc will be available for crypto currency. For now everyone is just experimenting which is why any guide out there shouldn't be followed blindly as they are usually just personal opinions and not proven facts.

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10. Give yourself time to learn the art before you expect profits from it. 3-4 years is a rational time to. Learn a new skill. Remember this.

From all that have been said, this is the part that caught my attention the most, Time is a very powerful factor as with it you can accomplish things you wouldn't have believe to be possible years back. There's no patience in this industry and that's our number one enemies. Those who have understood the significance of time have profited the most over the years and we should learn that as well if we want to succeed. Don't be in a rush to make money you'll probably squander, give the learning process time to master the skills.

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To everyone who wants to follow this, you still need to be careful. This lessons isn't a one and done solution for all of your trading problems because your situation will always be different than any other people, and it's the same thing for them. No matter how sound this lessons are, it might not be applicable to everyone at certain situations.

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Lol..it depends on the individual, their is some people who are good in cryptocurrency and mostly in trading department when you wants to share the knowledge of crypto in order to upgrade yours or impact on them, they resist, Yes it nice to extend your information crypto trading to the neighborhood, but before done that you have to know the caliber of individuals in cycle because not everyone likes to hear the prosperity of another, even though you're in same business line....i know in cryptocurrency industry what really scale many people through is vital and cogent information's like this trading informations you render and good trader will absorbed most of the information, except it's newbies that will fine it very difficult to comprehend what you have narrated so far.

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Crypto trading is very different to learn compared to the forex market where there are free trading strategies to be used immediately by newbies and then from there they can just learn how the market works. The Crypto market is different where traders learn from scratch while the project teams can be hostile to their investors as well.

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10. Give yourself time to learn the art before you expect profits from it. 3-4 years is a rational time to. Learn a new skill. Remember this.

It takes time indeed and after years you are still in a training session. It would take a lot of time and perhaps just trading in BTC alone will be the best thing to do than going to altcoins.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on January 27, 2022, 01:54:39 PM

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Source: https://twitter.com/EmperorBTC/status/1486348522408808457

@EmperorBTC is one of my favorite traders on crypto Twitter who is really kind for giving free trading lessons or advice.

I really like the number 10 lesson, which really talks about consistency and dedication, this is one of the most mistakes of newbies, they intended to stop after a few trades or don't have consistency, and keep complaining.

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Quote from: hugeblack on January 28, 2022, 07:42:15 AM

I've always thought that trading is like learning to ride a bike or to drive a master, you can listen to hundreds of good advice, and thousands of hours of videos but unless you practice it you won't be able to do it.
The tips are good and should be applied, but the practical skill in trading, making a good plan, managing emotions, etc. needs practical practice.
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Doing everything you write down is probably the perfect trader. It will be difficult for beginners or most people. But I think the advice given is very good. Although I know many traders may not be as detailed as what you say but can maximize their profits. Everyone has strategies and alternatives, maybe for new members the advice is very useful. That's why they had to try, after that they would certainly find a way that suited the level of ability he had. So I don't think there's a need to be rigid we just need to try and find the best and comfortable thing for us.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 29, 2022, 02:44:52 AM

I prefer to trade ones in a day, I looked for top for short or bottom for long. I trade twice or ones on a day, but I prefer ones, I only enter second if I know profit will be possible.

Still trading is very risky.

Of course trading is risky.

I understand what you mean here, trading the top and short. This is good but it takes someone with patient to wait and get the spot. Most of the time this is good because it gives a chance for faster retracing or correction profit. Usually trading while the market is just beginning to move is also good because you can have better profit. Is just about the trading skills and preferable time to enter.

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All of the listed lessons are something that should be absorbed by everyone who tries to do trading. Most of it is also applicable to other aspects in life, maybe in business or in academics. It just knows that you are risking something to gain something. In that way, I think you would be able to grasp what you intend to do.

I think this should be taken in a way that you added this information to yourself and applied it to how you feel it would best fit achieving your goals.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on January 28, 2022, 12:55:33 AM

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7. There's just one secret to trading. Keep clicking. Trade a lot. Risk small. Take a lot of bets and keep doing it. The more you trade, the better you her marinated and ready for the market. This teaches patience, planning and bring skin in the game. Trade a lot.

Uh...OK. That sounds like a recipe for losing all your money, but hey, maybe this Twitter guy with the sage advice knows what he's talking about.

When I traded a lot, I lost a lot. I do not understand the guy, he said trading a lot and be patient. If trading a lot, a little loss will set poor mindset to lure someone to trade more and lose more.

That is my own opinion

The guy is self centered and saying it the way he is doing it. For example, which I will never follow because I do not have time, the little trades I do always take time than me to watch the screen and see how the market is fluctuating. The guy meant little fund to be used, like 15 minutes trading. But this strategy was a failure for me. I can never do it again.

I prefer to trade ones in a day, I looked for top for short or bottom for long. I trade twice or ones on a day, but I prefer ones, I only enter second if I know profit will be possible.

Still trading is very risky.

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1 is true and that's why I've taken profits when it's just about to reach the ceiling. I was too quite early when I've taken profits but that's sort of regret if I've just waited a bit then the profit would be higher. But that's it, I've just learned that I've never taken much profit during 2017's bull run and I've just got to secure my profit during this recent bull run. Fulfilled, satisfied but also a little bit disappointed since I've missed more profits. That's go by the saying that "profit is profit" and never be greedy at all.

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One of the major issues once making a trade is the decision making because even though we are knowledgeable with the trading at the end of the day trading decision is the hardest way like still holding your position like taking profit and stop-loss this is the part when sometimes we are greedy and too much hoping for a single trade. Still the best way is to stick to the trading plan as possible avoid getting carried by the emotions.

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I second @hugeblack, practical skills must need practical practice to be developed. It is true that this tips are just basic and general, but still, it serves its purpose on reminding and impart information to us. But going to its practicality, it would be proven and tested by actually practicing it. Whereas, after doing do, the mistakes and lessons gained from such will be taken into consideration to the following trading moves, and strive to do better.

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I've always thought that trading is like learning to ride a bike or to drive a master, you can listen to hundreds of good advice, and thousands of hours of videos but unless you practice it you won't be able to do it.
The tips are good and should be applied, but the practical skill in trading, making a good plan, managing emotions, etc. needs practical practice.
I remember when I first started trading 2017-2108 and now, the difference is clear even though I haven't read any advice before.

The most important thing I can say is to learn from the mistakes, find out what I did wrong and try to improve it.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on January 28, 2022, 12:55:33 AM

...OK. That sounds like a recipe for losing all your money, but hey, maybe this Twitter guy with the sage advice knows what he's talking about.

Thats a bit harsh. But I should tell you what he mentioned on his tweet is not about losing money. But an actual guide to a safer way of trading(but not guaranteed). This isnt TA cause I probably have someone else to follow for that and different source. But for some reason the guy tweeted got some heck of a followers.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on January 28, 2022, 12:55:33 AM

there's absolutely nothing in this list that I could follow as an outline if I wanted to become a rich, successful trader.

To get rich on crypto doesnt need to be expert on TA. Im only using basics of it but were able to have some gains. Also it depends on someone apetite for risk. The author must be probably speaking based on his experience, but his ratio of gain compared to loss is probably more than it is.

Thanks OP for sharing. Some will definitely find this common advise but it will definitely help some if they somehow do it.

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Yhup that's helpful, and that's the most important lesson to remember in order to have a good journey in trading. Because to be honest when i was new i always keep searching for an information that can help me to have a good win rate and of course to minimize my losses everytime i trade. So i prefer to always listen some advices from other pro traders around the internet and most of the information i got from them is on your list above mate. So i hope everyone will see these thread especially those whose interested in trading because it's very useful..

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on January 28, 2022, 12:55:33 AM

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7. There's just one secret to trading. Keep clicking. Trade a lot. Risk small. Take a lot of bets and keep doing it. The more you trade, the better you her marinated and ready for the market. This teaches patience, planning and bring skin in the game. Trade a lot.

Uh...OK. That sounds like a recipe for losing all your money, but hey, maybe this Twitter guy with the sage advice knows what he's talking about.

OP, I'm going to be straight here: this quote is a bunch of bullshit; most of it is just very general "tips" that I've heard repeated over and over, and there's absolutely nothing in this list that I could follow as an outline if I wanted to become a rich, successful trader. Trading crypto is nothing more than gambling unless you have some inside information about a coin. It isn't like the stock market where there are fundamentals to be analyzed (and if you think there are, you're very much mistaken). The only thing very active crypto traders do is make guesses about the direction of the next few price ticks, and the only real "system" is TA....which is akin to homeopathy or some other pseudoscience.

What would we do without tweets like these?

I totally agree with what @ The Pharmacist has said. This is no unique tip to trade. They are just as has been said and known by traders. Therefore I don't see it fascinating. Moreover, number 7 as on quote is as scaring and confusing to even experienced trader.

Trading is only a little different from gambling with TA.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on January 28, 2022, 12:55:33 AM

there's absolutely nothing in this list that I could follow as an outline if I wanted to become a rich, successful trader.

Couldn't agree more! These are just general concepts but without much context on how it can be applied to a specific setup or scenario. Learning these isn't enough to establish a good foundation for a consistent day trading career.

But hey! @The Pharmacist, if you are looking for an outline that you can use to have a specific trading plan, then I think you can use the link below. Don't get me wrong, it may look like that I am a fuckin shiller but the posts on that subreddit is pure gold especially that you have mentioned about stocks being different to crypto which I believe is very true! That's where I also learned the concept of RS/RW vs SPY which I am looking forward to apply in the crypto market once I have done my academic semester.

- https://www.reddit.com/r/RealDayTrading/wiki/index

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on January 28, 2022, 12:55:33 AM

Uh...OK. That sounds like a recipe for losing all your money, but hey, maybe this Twitter guy with the sage advice knows what he's talking about.

OP, I'm going to be straight here: this quote is a bunch of bullshit; most of it is just very general "tips" that I've heard repeated over and over, and there's absolutely nothing in this list that I could follow as an outline if I wanted to become a rich, successful trader. Trading crypto is nothing more than gambling unless you have some inside information about a coin. It isn't like the stock market where there are fundamentals to be analyzed (and if you think there are, you're very much mistaken). The only thing very active crypto traders do is make guesses about the direction of the next few price ticks, and the only real "system" is TA....which is akin to homeopathy or some other pseudoscience.

What would we do without tweets like these?

Not necessarily that you literally need to be an insider. Sometimes doing simple things like digging deeper into their GitHub repos or Trello boards can give you a lot of information that the "YouTube researchers" don't know about. There are a good number of ways in frontrunning other traders/investors simply because 95% don't know what they're doing.

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7. There's just one secret to trading. Keep clicking. Trade a lot. Risk small. Take a lot of bets and keep doing it. The more you trade, the better you her marinated and ready for the market. This teaches patience, planning and bring skin in the game. Trade a lot.

Uh...OK. That sounds like a recipe for losing all your money, but hey, maybe this Twitter guy with the sage advice knows what he's talking about.

OP, I'm going to be straight here: this quote is a bunch of bullshit; most of it is just very general "tips" that I've heard repeated over and over, and there's absolutely nothing in this list that I could follow as an outline if I wanted to become a rich, successful trader. Trading crypto is nothing more than gambling unless you have some inside information about a coin. It isn't like the stock market where there are fundamentals to be analyzed (and if you think there are, you're very much mistaken). The only thing very active crypto traders do is make guesses about the direction of the next few price ticks, and the only real "system" is TA....which is akin to homeopathy or some other pseudoscience.

What would we do without tweets like these?

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on January 27, 2022, 01:54:39 PM

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8. If you miss a breakout, don't chase it. Traders who lack discipline simply become chasers and that's a perfect recipe of bankruptcy. Waiting is the hardest thing in trading which is stupid because there's a new opportunity every hour.

Source: https://twitter.com/EmperorBTC/status/1486348522408808457

Emperror BTC is definitely good in teaching other traders about the underlying technicalities in Day Trading, however, as a newbie or even an amateur, we need to cherry-pick some of their advices and tweak it according to our setup.

Looking at other stock traders, we can see that missing a breakout and not chasing it hinders our potential to profit in the market. And the phrase "buy low, sell high" has been hammered into our heads for so long that we believe it is the only way to profit from the market.

There is this strategy that I have learned on reddit which I shared here few week ago, that "buying high, selling higher" is also a viable strategy as long as you know Relative Strength/Relative Weakness (RS/RW) vs SPY(BTC) . It is basically a method where you analyze the market first which is the leading asset on a particular market and trade it using your technical analysis to determine when to enter and exit.

For example.

A crypto is showing signs of Relative Strength if:
- BTC goes up, ABC crypto is going up as well.
- BTC is flat (sideways), ABC crypto is going up
- BTC is down, ABC crypto isn't that much affected

Relative Weakness if
- BTC goes up, ABC crypto is'nt showing strong uptrend.
- BTC is flat (sideways), ABC crypto is going down
- BTC is down, ABC crypto is exponentially going down.

Therefore, buying high and selling it at a higher price is still doable as long as you compare the crypto you are going to trade against BTC as an identifier if the upward movement will going to continue or not.

Thanks for listening to my TEDTALK.

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I have found some useful advice for traders. So sharing with the community and it would help us to reduce loss from trading. I realized why most of us have been losing during the trade especially during bear markets. Although I don't know that person, but his lesson would be useful for us. I collect all the quotes from his Twitter together. So you may read from here rather than visit his Twitter account. Here is all his lesson.

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1. If you don't learn to trade, time and manage your positions, you will lose all your bull market profits, eventually. This will absolutely happen, it's just maths. The above happened to 99% of class of 2017 people. Improve or die.

2. You don't need to be a genius to profit here. Keep clicking, understand the mindset of the proven good traders and research EVERY word they say. Eventually you'll have a good system to be independent and be on auto Pilot. Details of trading system

3. Make friends. Make a group with them and discuss, be active and OFFER before you ask for help. People will help you more when you tell them what you can do for them, rather than just asking for help. People like Johnnie have made me millions for just listening to them.

4. Which indicators to use? Horizontal S/R is the most logical kind of tool because it literally is derived from the supply/demand pressure. Apart from these, use the ones which derive their logic from order flows and not random mathematical statistics.

5. Insight information like Orderflow, Footprints, are a tool and not an edge. It provides you a scan of orders getting placed and executed but it's not an advantage unless you sit down weeks trying to understand the behaviour. Trading better comes from market behavior hacking.

6. In the long term, you will make more money by managing risks than by taking more risks. Market rewards constant small bets more then one degen big bet. You can recover all your losses if you do it slowly. Not having enough capital or patience makes the above a risk.

7. There's just one secret to trading. Keep clicking. Trade a lot. Risk small. Take a lot of bets and keep doing it. The more you trade, the better you her marinated and ready for the market. This teaches patience, planning and bring skin in the game. Trade a lot.

8. If you miss a breakout, don't chase it. Traders who lack discipline simply become chasers and that's a perfect recipe of bankruptcy. Waiting is the hardest thing in trading which is stupid because there's a new opportunity every hour.

9. Open hundred charts. Make your levels. Mark your entries. Journal it. Calculate your win rate and the price path the next day. Repeat it every day and see how you change. Trading is literally just this. Exercise what you do to get rich.

10. Give yourself time to learn the art before you expect profits from it. 3-4 years is a rational time to. Learn a new skill. Remember this.

I hope the above tips helped you. Was written while I laid on my bed for a power nap. Thank you, will release the Level to Level trade pdf soon. Apologies that it's taking so much time. Please read and share the above again and IMPLEMENT IT. PLEASE.

Source: https://twitter.com/EmperorBTC/status/1486348522408808457

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