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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
So did the working prototype ever surface?
K16 yes but scaling to K64 had issues I think.

They never showed a properly hashing k16.
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Terrahash, Amir, Justin,
Will you be refunding people in full before you take new pre-orders?

Who are you talking to? Smiley

TerraHash:
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lets face it they are gone...
legendary
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So did the working prototype ever surface?
K16 yes but scaling to K64 had issues I think.
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So did the working prototype ever surface?
legendary
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Terrahash, Amir, Justin,
Will you be refunding people in full before you take new pre-orders?

Who are you talking to? Smiley

TerraHash:
Last Active:   September 14, 2013, 10:49:11 AM

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This is the perfect summary of the TH saga and his 'haters'!
THE END
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Crypto Investor ;) @ Farmed Account Hunter
Terrahash, Amir, Justin,
Will you be refunding people in full before you take new pre-orders?

Who are you talking to? Smiley

TerraHash:
Last Active:   September 14, 2013, 10:49:11 AM

Sad Sad Sad
sr. member
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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
Terrahash, Amir, Justin,
Will you be refunding people in full before you take new pre-orders?
legendary
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What is a "klego connector"?

I think he means IDC.

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We have a very elegant solution to connect the boards. And this setup is amateurish cuz its on my work table. Its something I am actively testing on.

Is the 2x2 IDC header with jumper wires (bottom center) your "elegant" solution?
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All -

Make sure you get all your questions answered prior to giving them any money, as once they get your money any communication line will go dark.
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They don't have klego connectors?

This setup looks totally amateurish.  The combined electronics knowledge of TerraHash could fit on a dime.

What is a "klego connector"? Its basically a connector that connects two boards. It could be on a board, or wires, doesn't matter. We have a very elegant solution to connect the boards. And this setup is amateurish cuz its on my work table. Its something I am actively testing on.

Sorry I'm having a hard time understanding where your voice has suddenly appeared from considering the total contempt and wall of silence you have shown your customers until you want something more from them.
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with 8 days left

One of the assembled K64s, that I am trying to get running.

A non-working board isn't very impressive.
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Our data center will have a 99.9999% up time guarantee.

In other words, guaranteeing a max of ~30 seconds downtime per year. If it seems too good to be true...
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They don't have klego connectors?

This setup looks totally amateurish.  The combined electronics knowledge of TerraHash could fit on a dime.



Let me preface this by saying I used to believe in TerraHash, but now they screwed their customers and therefore they're screwing themselves.

TerraHash can't even put together an 18 GH/sec mining board.  Who believes they can do 1,000,000 GH/sec by next month?

I gave $15,000 to TerraHash and yet they couldn't reply to any of my emails or support tickets in regards to any issue, for months. 

They don't answer their phones. 

They don't have voicemail.   Who doesn't have voicemail??? 

They have failed to meet promise after promise.

I suspect they will be under investigation by federal authorities soon.

Any other ASIC company is looking better at this point.  TerraHash will soon be history.

One of the assembled K64s, that I am trying to get running. Individual K16s are working with less than 1% error rate. There is some issue with I2C (board to board) communication, that I am hoping to iron out by tonight.


sr. member
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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
For anyone considering buying anything from Terrahash, they still have not produced a working prototype, as well as outright refusing to speak to their customers at all.

Where is Terrahash? They are not responding to emails, tickets, voice call (mail box still not setup).
They are obviously monitoring the forum though.

Let it be known that Terrahash has my chips today. So the two weeks clock starts now.
I need to know what size and spec of fan to buy but I can't find the info as terrahash is not responding to anything.

Looks like someone called TH's bluff.
Now we will see...

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legendary
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I was believing myself mad trying to refuse the content of the first post (6$/GH, 2PH in 2 months).
The comments showed me that i wasn't crazy at all.

This is what happens staying out of the scene for a while...
sr. member
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Let me preface this by saying I used to believe in TerraHash, but now they screwed their customers and therefore they're screwing themselves.

TerraHash can't even put together an 18 GH/sec mining board.  Who believes they can do 1,000,000 GH/sec by next month?

I gave $15,000 to TerraHash and yet they couldn't reply to any of my emails or support tickets in regards to any issue, for months. 

They don't answer their phones. 

They don't have voicemail.   Who doesn't have voicemail??? 

They have failed to meet promise after promise.

I suspect they will be under investigation by federal authorities soon.

Any other ASIC company is looking better at this point.  TerraHash will soon be history.
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Not interested. Refund time!
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Not being funny, and I understand they were screwed over not once, but twice, but if this doesn't involve a secure payment method, walk away, this is as good as a BFL delay tactic whilst your funds are hurting, especially if the 28nm marketing BS is coming from where I think it is.

Think about it.

I supported TH in the beginning with their secure payment choice, but this, nah, something this size with the amount of debt they are in, and the dodgy company I think is behind this, walk away, far, far away. Paypal will have nothing to do with this, no merchant bank will either.

They need you to do this, way more than you need them.

If it lloks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it's a...

Ill say it, they've "partnered" with BFL.

This company is such a joke, so who is this new spokesperson Matt? and why is this the first time we are hearing anything about him. Did terrahash get a new ceo, did Amir and Justin get fired or did they quit?

IMHO, stay far away from these scamsters.


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Where are the boards terrahash? only 8 days left!
legendary
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Matt, the company spokesman explained, “We are in the final stages of signing a groundbreaking deal with a leading Bitcoin ASIC manufacturer."

Looking forward to the real press announcement that you actually have a deal signed.
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what will be the converson from current orders to this?

In the other thread TH posted this:

If you guys wish, I can bring up the refund issue with Yifu (in case he answers), and get the chips refunded. But we are heavily invested into this. The cases, custom heat sinks, PCBs, parts acquired at higher prices or acquired from secondary market are all non-refundable and impossible to sell. And since we ordered everything for 80,000 chips (40,000 our own and 40,000 anticipated assembly orders). So even with a refund from Avalon (which we highly doubt they will ever give), we might be able to give only a very small partial refund.

But as I said we are working on something new, I request all of you to be a little more patient. We are going to announce something very unique, very exciting and very affordable next week. We really can't give out much details as of now, but in our opinion this would essentially be the final evolution in Bitcoin mining.

All of you know that we have demonstrated the ability to produce and run the boards. We were the first one to successfully assemble a K16, and we were the first to start mining with a fully assembled K16 as well. And we will again demonstrate the ability to mass produce boards once we get the chips.

In my opinion, instead of taking a decision of behalf of everyone and pressing Avalon for refunds, we give everyone the following options individually:

a) If you want 100% refund, you need to give us 3 months time. We fully acknowledge that we are legally required to issue a refund when asked. Legal issues aside, we ourselves want to do the right thing to maintain our credibility. But the fact is we do not have enough liquidity right now to process all the refund requests. If you are willing to settle for a partial refund right now, please contact us and we can work something out.
b) Keep your order with us. We deliver it within the promised time (2 weeks of receiving the chips). We will also give you a 20% (of your current order) credit for our next project which we will be announcing next week. This credit will be transferable (you can sell it if you want).

I hope you understand that we are doing this despite the fact that the current situation is NOT our fault. Everyone who ordered from us were totally aware of the risks involved. Also 20-25% was our average profit per order. So even with option 'b', we are willing to make 0 profit from this whole Avalon saga, just for the sake our next project and to maintain long-term credibility for our company.

We would love to hear your comments on this.

I think means that those of us that decide to keep our Avalon based order could get that + a 20% credit towards this based on whatever we originally spent. So if you spent 5K, you get a 1K credit towards this one. Not exactly a current order conversion but it's something.

TH did I read that right?

Yes, that's right.

what about my current order?

You'll still get your current order when the Avalon chips arrive. The 20% credit is in addition to your current order, assuming you keep it.

jelin1984, this is the answer to your question as well.
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what will be the converson from current orders to this?

In the other thread TH posted this:

If you guys wish, I can bring up the refund issue with Yifu (in case he answers), and get the chips refunded. But we are heavily invested into this. The cases, custom heat sinks, PCBs, parts acquired at higher prices or acquired from secondary market are all non-refundable and impossible to sell. And since we ordered everything for 80,000 chips (40,000 our own and 40,000 anticipated assembly orders). So even with a refund from Avalon (which we highly doubt they will ever give), we might be able to give only a very small partial refund.

But as I said we are working on something new, I request all of you to be a little more patient. We are going to announce something very unique, very exciting and very affordable next week. We really can't give out much details as of now, but in our opinion this would essentially be the final evolution in Bitcoin mining.

All of you know that we have demonstrated the ability to produce and run the boards. We were the first one to successfully assemble a K16, and we were the first to start mining with a fully assembled K16 as well. And we will again demonstrate the ability to mass produce boards once we get the chips.

In my opinion, instead of taking a decision of behalf of everyone and pressing Avalon for refunds, we give everyone the following options individually:

a) If you want 100% refund, you need to give us 3 months time. We fully acknowledge that we are legally required to issue a refund when asked. Legal issues aside, we ourselves want to do the right thing to maintain our credibility. But the fact is we do not have enough liquidity right now to process all the refund requests. If you are willing to settle for a partial refund right now, please contact us and we can work something out.
b) Keep your order with us. We deliver it within the promised time (2 weeks of receiving the chips). We will also give you a 20% (of your current order) credit for our next project which we will be announcing next week. This credit will be transferable (you can sell it if you want).

I hope you understand that we are doing this despite the fact that the current situation is NOT our fault. Everyone who ordered from us were totally aware of the risks involved. Also 20-25% was our average profit per order. So even with option 'b', we are willing to make 0 profit from this whole Avalon saga, just for the sake our next project and to maintain long-term credibility for our company.

We would love to hear your comments on this.

I think means that those of us that decide to keep our Avalon based order could get that + a 20% credit towards this based on whatever we originally spent. So if you spent 5K, you get a 1K credit towards this one. Not exactly a current order conversion but it's something.

TH did I read that right?

Yes, that's right.

what about my current order?
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Re: TerraHash to Provide a Hosted Bitcoin Mining Solution for $6/GHash in November
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What happen for people which had order from you and nothing ship untill now? Convert to hosting for free?
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what will be the converson from current orders to this?

In the other thread TH posted this:

If you guys wish, I can bring up the refund issue with Yifu (in case he answers), and get the chips refunded. But we are heavily invested into this. The cases, custom heat sinks, PCBs, parts acquired at higher prices or acquired from secondary market are all non-refundable and impossible to sell. And since we ordered everything for 80,000 chips (40,000 our own and 40,000 anticipated assembly orders). So even with a refund from Avalon (which we highly doubt they will ever give), we might be able to give only a very small partial refund.

But as I said we are working on something new, I request all of you to be a little more patient. We are going to announce something very unique, very exciting and very affordable next week. We really can't give out much details as of now, but in our opinion this would essentially be the final evolution in Bitcoin mining.

All of you know that we have demonstrated the ability to produce and run the boards. We were the first one to successfully assemble a K16, and we were the first to start mining with a fully assembled K16 as well. And we will again demonstrate the ability to mass produce boards once we get the chips.

In my opinion, instead of taking a decision of behalf of everyone and pressing Avalon for refunds, we give everyone the following options individually:

a) If you want 100% refund, you need to give us 3 months time. We fully acknowledge that we are legally required to issue a refund when asked. Legal issues aside, we ourselves want to do the right thing to maintain our credibility. But the fact is we do not have enough liquidity right now to process all the refund requests. If you are willing to settle for a partial refund right now, please contact us and we can work something out.
b) Keep your order with us. We deliver it within the promised time (2 weeks of receiving the chips). We will also give you a 20% (of your current order) credit for our next project which we will be announcing next week. This credit will be transferable (you can sell it if you want).

I hope you understand that we are doing this despite the fact that the current situation is NOT our fault. Everyone who ordered from us were totally aware of the risks involved. Also 20-25% was our average profit per order. So even with option 'b', we are willing to make 0 profit from this whole Avalon saga, just for the sake our next project and to maintain long-term credibility for our company.

We would love to hear your comments on this.

I think means that those of us that decide to keep our Avalon based order could get that + a 20% credit towards this based on whatever we originally spent. So if you spent 5K, you get a 1K credit towards this one. Not exactly a current order conversion but it's something.

TH did I read that right?
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what will be the converson from current orders to this?
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Not being funny, and I understand they were screwed over not once, but twice, but if this doesn't involve a secure payment method, walk away, this is as good as a BFL delay tactic whilst your funds are hurting, especially if the 28nm marketing BS is coming from where I think it is.

Think about it.

I supported TH in the beginning with their secure payment choice, but this, nah, something this size with the amount of debt they are in, and the dodgy company I think is behind this, walk away, far, far away. Paypal will have nothing to do with this, no merchant bank will either.

They need you to do this, way more than you need them.

If it lloks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it's a...
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What happen for people which had order from you and nothing ship untill now? Convert to hosting for free?
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Do you have any estimates on the monthly fee or expected power consumption for 500GH/s?

Are there any plans to increase hashrate per investment over time or is this a fixed $6 per GH/s?

What risk does this level of consolidated mining bring to the block chain and what are your plans to mitigate that risk?

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Hi, I am the prince of Zamunda, Akeem Joffer looking for some petahashes. Please, send me the petahashes, and I will reward you handsomely.

Here's a pic of me so you know i'm legit

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I would like to reserve two blocks of whatever bullshit you're trying to sell.
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Press Release: http://www.prweb.com/releases/Bitcoin0mining0terrahash/bitcoin0asic0mining/prweb11093344.htm

Santa Clara, CA (PRWEB) September 05, 2013

In a move to significantly reduce the costs for mining Bitcoins, TerraHash has announced a hosted solution of 2 PetaHash mining power at the rate of $6 per Giga Hash. The company will create a Bitcoin mining farm, and sell portions of the mining power to its customers.

Matt, the company spokesman explained, “We are in the final stages of signing a groundbreaking deal with a leading Bitcoin ASIC manufacturer. Leveraging their 28nm chip technology, we plan to host a mining farm starting with at least 2 PetaHash in November. Our customers will be able to buy blocks of 500 GigaHash of mining power for $3000 each. This will include all manufacturing and storage costs for hosting the equipment. Customers will pay a small monthly fee, which will cover electricity, maintenance etc. Our data center will have a 99.9999% up time guarantee. Being located in the Santa Clara county, we have access to some of the lowest cost of electricity. This allows us to create economies of scale for the mining world.”

Terming it as the next natural evolution of Bitcoin mining, he compared the plan with services provided by other cloud computing companies. “For instance, we have seen the computing industry evolve in a similar fashion. Initially, companies hosted their own servers in their offices. Then, we saw the emergence of data centers which provided with the optimum infrastructure to run your servers efficiently. Finally, a few major players (like Amazon, RackSpace) began providing the end user with the flexible concept of renting storage space, without being bound to the physical hardware. We expect a similar transition in the Bitcoin mining world,” he said.

At a time when most Bitcoin mining equipment manufacturers seem to be more focused on accumulating maximum pre-order money, TerraHash is once again planning an innovative strategy. They plan on only taking 25% of the money upfront, and the rest when the hardware is ready to be hosted. Pre-orders will open up this coming week, and mining is set to begin by end of November. The company also plans on offering an “insurance” plan for the customers, to cover up any potential delays in the timeline for mining.

Matt further said that, “We have learnt a lot from our experience assembling Avalon ASIC chips. Customers want a solution that can be delivered very fast, because of the ever increasing network difficulty. On the same hand, they do not want to risk a lot by investing in an unproven technology. By only demanding a 25% reservation fee, we are reducing their risk significantly.”

At $6 per GigaHash, the pricing is nearly half of the nearest competitor. Along with that, a November timeline would promise delivery much earlier than any other company. In an industry where time to delivery is the most critical element, TerraHash claims to be heading for the final evolution in Bitcoin mining.

More details will be coming soon.
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