Topic: Tesla PowerWall 2 + 50 RTX 2080Ti GPUs (Read 967 times)

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The best thing to do is find a place with crazy cheap electricity if you're a beginner in crypto mining regardless whether ASIC or GPU based mining. Never go in to power installations at the beginning because that would cost more money.

A wise miner will go anywhere in the world for cheap electricity to cut the power cost and only focus on mining rigs and the most profitable coins to mine. Don't waste your money on power, focus more on buying GPUs when you find the right place to set your farm.

You will never have enough off grid storage to power even six rigs let alone 20 unless u have millions to invest in commercial grade batteries which cannot even be installed on most but the very remote residential properties due zoning. Be happy with your grid tie in and maybe a few batteries to power your cooling system

God this foo will not even listen , let him waste his $$ if he even has any on a stupid power wall 2 lol
You think a rig is like a fridge or a few appliances? A single rig is continuously drawing power unlike normal house hold appliances for which the power wall is designed for jesus

As long as I produce as much as I consume during the course of a month, I'm only paying the power company $32/month for the base meter charge.

So if I consume say 200 kWh a day (which would be a constant draw of 8,333 Watts, enough to power 90 1660Tis 24/7), then my monthly power bill would only be $32 and I would not have to mess with batteries and their associated maintenance cost.  Of course in order to keep the power bill at $32/month, I would also need to produce an average of 200 kWh per day.  On cloudy days and during the winter I would produce less, so during months where that was the case, I'll have to pay the shortage at a rate of $0.12.

Still, if my average production is only say 100 kWh, I would have to pay the power company for the other 100 kWh, and my net kWh rate would be $0.06 which, while not free, it still pretty good.

My long term plan is to continue to add solar panels that are grid tied, until I reach a point where I can leave all my rigs running 24/7 and only pay the power company $32/month since I will produce as much as I consume.  If I turn on all my rigs and ASICs, I draw 20,000 watts, which is 480 kWh a day.  At $0.12 per kWh, that works out to about $58/day, or about $1,730/month.  I was doing that for many months back in the 2nd half of 2017 and the beginning of 2018.  It was not a problem since I was earning as much as $500/day and the power cost only represented a little more than 10% of that.

Fortunately solar panels continue to drop in price.  Right now I can get 360 Watt 72 cell panels for $170 each, which is $0.47 per watt.  In quantity, the cost goes down to about $150 a panel, or $0.42 per watt.

String inverters run about $0.10 per watt.  Racking is about $0.20 per watt, so the grand total comes to around $0.75 per watt.  So a 100,000 watt system would cost about $75,000 in material if you do all the installation work yourself.

Once you start getting past 50,000 watts or so, you are going to run into issues with a residential grid tied system unless you ensure you always have enough miners running to keep the power you push back into the grid below, say 20,000 watts.  I did have the POCO upgrade my transformer from a 25 kW unit to a 50 kW unit last year, so I'm good for now, but as I expand towards a 100 kW system there will be trouble if my Internet connection went down for example and all my rigs went idle.  But I'll worry about those issues when the times come. 

Well, I'm finally mixing all the two in one (both the grid and solar) to cut the high cost from the grid.
During the day time, I will use solar power while in the night when there is no sun then I'll be using the grid power.    
I was planning to go completely off-grid when it comes to power because my goal is long-term.
Once my power is completely off-grid I don't have to worry about paying the power bills anymore.

PowerWall 2 specs are as follows:

Usable Capacity: 13.5 kWh
Continuous discharge rate: 5 kW

So if you set the 1660Ti to draw 90 Watts, you can power about 55 of them from a PowerWall 2.  So that's about 7 rigs with 7 or 8 GPUs each.

Keep in mind that after 2.7 hours, you have completely drained the PowerWall 2 module since the capacity is only 13.5 kWh.

A single 1660Ti will draw 2.16 kWh a day (90 Watts * 24 hours), so if you are looking for how many 1660Ti's a PowerWall 2 can keep running for 24 hours, that comes to 6.25, or a single rig with 6 GPUs.

I'll say it again, using any type of off grid battery system for powering mining rigs is a really bad idea except for a tiny experimental setup.  Once you get into needing 100's of kWh a day to power your mining operation, a grid tied system makes much more sense.

Yesterday my 128 panel array produced 183.4 kWh and the peak output was around 26 kW from around 1pm to 2pm.  If I was to use PowerWall 2's, I would have needed 14 of them to store that energy.  Instead, I just pumped it all into the grid and now have 183.4 kWh of credit with the power company that I can pull back out at my leisure.  So no upfront cost for PowerWall modules, and no worries about maintenance down the road.

Ok, hence GTX 1660ti consumes less power compared to RTX 2080ti - May I still use Powerwall 2 to power the 1660ti rigs?
If not, the industrial power setup is the solution then e.g. Tesla Powerpack or Tesvolt TLC 1000 1MW setup.

I want to know if PowerWall 2 can power 1660ti rig and how many to be exact? I like to use Powerwall because I can hang them anywhere I want.
But if they can't provide enough power for at least 100 GPUs 1660ti(s) then there is no need to be looking all fancy anymore.

This is my long term goal as well but the only way I invest in solo is with PROFITS from a bull market if it every returned.  All my rigs were paid for in the last bull market , not buying any gear, right now to make $$. It’s best to buy crypto

People who bought raven all last year for example are doing great now

Guys, why this dude sounds angry? Crypto mining is a hubby that I like to try not for profit yet but for fun and you should at least get one. The real crypto enthusiasts are not into crypto to get rich like the majority of the people. we are just here to join the revolution and have a story to tell our grandchildren. Note: crypto is not a get rich quick scheme. thus, many of us here are not looking for one yet.  

It isn't dumb at all.  If you owned a building in a cool but sunny area it would be a no brainer investment that is nearly certain to payoff in under a decade and would likely reward someone greatly for doing so.  You'd probably need to cut out the batteries and buying all the same hardware at one time would not be smart, but it could definitely be done with the right investment.  It just wouldn't be cheap or easy.  Take a look at what philipma1957 is doing.

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omg people are just dumb!!!! hey CRYPTO IS ALMOST DEAD, NO PROFIT AT ALL, HUGE MARGINAL TRADERS, THAT HAD BEEN DUMPING AND PUMPING COINS, DON'T EVEN WANT TO PLAY ANYMORE, REASON WHY THE MARKET HAS BEEN ALMOST FLAT FOR ABOUT 1 MONTH, ROI (6 RX 570 X 200$ EACH, + ALL THE HARDWARE NEEDED, 1500$, CAN TAKE YOU TO ROI FROM 5 TO 6 YEARS AT CURRENT PRICES, EVEN MORE DEPENDING ON HARDWARE, BUT HEY!! I WILL BET ALL I HAVE FOR A FUTURE THAT DOES NOT EXIST AT ALL.

And you want to spend a huge amount of money in solar power  and at least 50.000$ only in gpus, to ROI when???

When i see 142.000GH/s on the ETH network, at current prices, i understand why many people have lost all their money in this shitty market.

I guess 1660ti is the solution. it only costs around $300 or less
It's cheaper, lighter, smaller, and it has less energy consumption compared to 2080ti


RTX 1660ti it is, finally!

I though he said 50 2080TI not 400 lol, for 400 of those you would need like an accre of solar panels.

Instead you should maybe do 600 1660ti maybe , heck 800 1660 TI would give you the same hash power as 400 2080TI at about half the power, you would need far more space tho

so, 400 x 2080Ti GPUs = 400x 0.2kW = 80kW

solar panels must be in 400-800kW range, then (i.e 1300 - 2600 panels, and not 150 )

In central Europe the expected factor is 2.7 hours of full max solar power per 24h - what is quite close to your 3.2kW from 34kW solar power

So the general rule is really simple, someone needs to multiply the power of his GPU farm - by 5-10 factor to have necessary power output of planned solar panels
and to accumulate that energy somehow/somewhere...

I said early you need they commercial utlity style power wall lol not the one you posted that basically just keeps
Your tv , fridge and lights off the grid haha

https://www.tesla.com/powerpack

Commercial power wall wil run u bout half a Millie

No.

2x 2080ti = 560 watts (more when you add in the host computer and cooling, but we'll ignore that.)
0.56kWh x 24 hours = ~13.5kWh, or 1 Powerwall 2
That means to store enough energy to power 540 GPUs for one day, you would need 270 Powerwall 2's.  

If you look at my earlier posted math, it is correct, even overly generous for what you're trying to assume you can do and includes the solar aspect, as well as day/night hours.  I'm literally using this equipment and giving you actual real estimates based off real world usage.  



The actual discharge rate is 7kW peak / 5kW continuous per Powerwall 2.

What's funny about this? I'm here to learn but I don't know about you, Mr. Einstein  

Lol this is funny to read , he thinks it provides that power over  24 hrs smh

300W x 45GPU give 13.5KW of instant power consumption,

but with a battery of 13.5KWh of capacity you can only provide 13.5KW of electricity during 1 hour.

so you have to mutiply by 24 the number of battery to mine all the day (24h/day)
Solar panel or the grid have to feed all your battery with 13.5KWH*24 = 324KWH per day
( i don't take in consideration that you will not keep 13.5Kwh very long if you draw 100% of battery capacity everyday)

if you go solar only, you have to produce 324Kwh during 8-10 hours a day
let says 8 hours of solar production per day (because you don't get 100% of panel production during the 8 hours of the day)
that give 324KWh/8h = 40 Kw of instant production, so arround 135 solar panel of 300W

in real world you will need more panel, arround 200 to get the 40Kw average of instant production and hope to match the 324 Kwh of daily production on sunny days

a quick calculation is between 3.5 to 4 solar Panel of 300W per GPU that consume 300W

Hello guys,
I was navigating through the web and I found this information about RTX 2080ti GPU.


Well, the question is what is the exact power consumption for mining?
I guess based on this information, a 2080ti gpu is consuming ~279 watts (for gaming) ok, let's say ~ 300 watts for mining
Therefore, a single 13.5 kWh Tesla PowerWall 2 will power approximately 45 GPUs. Guys, correct me if i'm wrong, i'm no expert on this... thanks  

6 Tesla PowerWall 2s will roughly power 270 RTX 2080ti GPUs... 12 Tesla PowerWall 2s will roughly power 540 RTX 2080ti GPUs. But only if i'm right!

It really amazes me how little people understand about solar. In almost every case, solar is a supplemental energy source, as you can only generate useful power for maybe 10h a day if you are in a sunny desert.

Good luck with this fools errand!

Uh, 150 solar panels @ say 300w each will generate 45,000 Watts at noon on a sunny day during the summer.  So during that brief moment each day (in the summer months only), you can power 225 GPUs that consume 200 Watts each.

So unless you farm is floating in space with sun 24/7, you will only see a fraction of that power on an annual basis.

I currently have 128 panels with a total output of about 34,000 Watts at noon on a sunny day during the summer.  Last month I generated a total of 2,151 kWh from this array.  There were 28 days in February, so that works out to an average production of 77 kWh per day, or 3,200 Watts per hour.  That in turn translates into 16 GPUs @ 200 Watts.

During March, I have had a few days where I generated 175 kWh, which translates to around 7,300 Watts on a 24 hour average, or enough to power 36 200W GPUs.

Not sure why you want to go off grid.  It is MUCH more economical to be grid tied, especially if your POCO offers net metering.

No... You've got it all wrong. For power, I have to invest only $175,000 for 2 MWh batteries + 150 solar panels (off-the-grid) which would power up to 400 RTX 2080Ti GPUs. And the cost for 400 2080Ti GPUs is somewhere around $520,000. For land, this is going to cost me around $30,000 + miscellaneous ~ $20,000.

The grand total of the initial investment is going to be $745,000, not a million. In the beginning, the return is going to look small $400-$500/day - After a year, once we got another market boom similar to 2017 - I don't need 30 years to get the ROI, I'll see it in a matter of months, or a year or so max

Let's do the math, at the market boom the average crypto gets 10x in value.
So, let's take $400/day x 365 days = $146,000

Average crypto gets 10x in value during a market boom.
Therefore, $146,000 x 10 = $1,460,000 for the year in the bull market.

You see I told you I'll get my ROI in a year or so... The only thing to wait for is the next market boom

    

I've run these numbers before.  'OgNasty' is correct.  You would need AT LEAST $500,000 in solar alone (not including batteries) for your 50x 1080ti setup to be 100% run on solar.  Could even run you higher (~$1million).   Good luck.  ROI > 30 years.

For power, I found: https://www.tesvolt.com/en/tps.html

1. Tesvolt Lithium Battery Storage 500 kWh TLC 500
2. Tesvolt Lithium Battery Storage 1MWh TLC 1000

PowerWalls can't deliver enough energy to my farm.

look up the industrial tesla batteries , the powerwall will barely power one ring , you need industrial storage

Welcome to the other side brother, explore Jehu's youtube and educate yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/user/jehugarcia 


"Tesla Batteries" could pertain to a variety of differently spec Lithium Ion cells, most likely your referencing the 18650
https://www.google.com/search?q=lithion+18650&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS717US717&oq=lithion+18650&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.5735j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Take a look at my Green Energy Project: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/112kw-solarwindman-nastymining-green-energy-project-1783328

I'm doing something similar with a Powerwall 2 and some solar/wind/man energy.  I must say though, without the grid it would be very difficult to keep these powered a majority of the time.  The Powerwall 2 has 13.5 kWh of power storage.  Lets say you get 10 hours a day of sunlight, which leaves 14 hours of the day needing to be powered by the Powerwall 2.  A single 2080 ti would use around 5 kWh during that period.  This means you would likely only be able to power 2-3 2080 ti gpus per Powerwall 2.  For 50 of them, you'd be looking at >17 Powerwalls 2s to keep them running off the grid.  You'd also need to produce >400 kWh of solar electricity per day.  A solar system that size would likely cost you more than $200,000, with another $120,000 for the Powerwall 2s and another $65,000 for the GPUs. 

It can definitely be done, but you're looking at spending over $400,000 before you figure in the costs of cooling and space to fit all those solar panels and Powerwalls.  Seems like a lot of effort and risk for $45/day in income. 

Yeah, many of us here want to start crypto mining but the major problem we have is the power
And we all know about the Tesla Powerwall 2 which is one of the best lithium-ion batteries out there.
My mining farm is going to be fully solar powered using Tesla batteries. any advice is welcome.

I want to build something like this...