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legendary
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@Marvell1. Elon might be included in Trump's cabinet, however, if you are serious on your speculation that he will run for the American presidency, you are mistaken. Elon cannot do this because he is an South African. I reckon only people who are born in America can run as president.

Also, Elon will not be trading bitcoin to get Trump's DeFi token. I was speculating that Elon will be helping the platform in liquidity providing by wrapping Tesla's bitcoin to wBTC to stake in the platform's automated market maker.
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Haha, love the take! Knowing how unpredictable Elon can be, I wouldn't be surprised if he’s cooking up something bigger behind the scenes rather than just dumping it all. Swapping and staking it seems like a power move.

Tesla offloading BTC like this right before a pump? I’d say staking with Trump might indeed be the more stable bet, at least for the entertainment value!

What is the biggest payment processor in the cryptospace that holds bitcoin to issue wrapped bitcoin? This might be Bitgo, I reckoh. If Tesla's bitcoin are sent to Bitgo, we can be quite certain that this will be wrapped and staked on Trump's DeFi project to help this have the liquidity it needs and to earn some yield also.

This is very head shaking because I never would have predicted a presidential candidate and a CEO to create and participate in cryptospace DeFi hehehehehe.


Elon is trying his best to help Trump win the upcoming election. We can easily see that Elon's real purpose in doing so is not only to create benefits for his business, but also to show his intention to become a politician. I wouldn't be surprised if Elon becomes a presidential candidate in the future  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

But that doesn't mean he shares the same views and becomes Trump's business partner. I don't think Elon would trade bitcoin just to get some tokens from a project Trump is involved in. He doesn't care about it because he can create a project himself if he wants, Elon's target isn't even bitcoin when it comes to crypto, Doge is the only thing he cares about in the market.
legendary
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Haha, love the take! Knowing how unpredictable Elon can be, I wouldn't be surprised if he’s cooking up something bigger behind the scenes rather than just dumping it all. Swapping and staking it seems like a power move.

Tesla offloading BTC like this right before a pump? I’d say staking with Trump might indeed be the more stable bet, at least for the entertainment value!

What is the biggest payment processor in the cryptospace that holds bitcoin to issue wrapped bitcoin? This might be Bitgo, I reckon. If Tesla's bitcoin are sent to Bitgo, we can be quite certain that this will be wrapped and staked on Trump's DeFi project to help this have the liquidity it needs and to earn some yield also.

This is very head shaking because I never would have predicted a presidential candidate and a CEO to create and participate in cryptospace DeFi hehehehehe.
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So Tesla still has plenty of bitcoin from car sales in 2021? Very curious because what I know is that Tesla has sold ownership in the past?
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I don't know how many cars they sold at all in that short time when they offered Bitcoin as a means of payment, but these BTC which we are talking about now are certainly not part of the sale, but of the company's investment in BTC when they bought about 43 000 BTC for approximately $1.5 billion. Most of it was sold 2 years ago, and these coins are what is left of it.

Elon Musk won't be able to manipulate the market anymore, he has lost a bit of trust.

Considering that he has over 200 million users following him on his social network (which is about x3 more than when he was tweeting a lot about crypto-currencies), I wouldn't say that he has lost trust - he just quieted down with given that he has already been sentenced to probation by the SEC for manipulating his company's shares.
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 I won't really put too much thought to this because its not clear of he's sold them off, he's just moving them to different wallets for reasons best known to him and unlike when he had to sell off 75% of his Bitcoin holdings in 2022 at a lower rate because of the COVID-19 issue in China and didn't want to be caught off guard.
 Elon Musk is not like your typical business man, he does his things differently and if as of 2021 he was rallying for Bitcoin only to somehow change his stance in 2022, it means this action of his shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Maybe later on we'd find out why he did it.
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Well I'm not going to speculate more about Tesla's bitcoins being moved to an unknown wallet, maybe there's a reason or it's avoiding government snooping?


Companies or corporations like Tesla or Microstrategy are required to report their financial results quarterly, any purchases or sales of their assets must be listed on the company's financial statements. So I don't think they do this to avoid government oversight, these organizations cannot escape government control.
What these organizations care about is not privacy, they are not like individuals like us, what they need is government support to protect their businesses.

Elon Musk won't be able to manipulate the market anymore, he has lost a bit of trust.

Many people say that he no longer has any influence or impact on the market, is this true? His influence is still there because having a billionaire support the market is something the market always expects. Regardless of his intentions, the market will always be excited if he mentions the market. When bull season comes, we will see this more clearly.
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Many people shocked by the news that Tesla recently moved $760 million in Bitcoin, but it is still unclear if they are selling or just shifting their assets around. There is no sign that Elon and Tesla are related to Trump's DeFi project. Such crypto movements do take place for a whole host of reasons, which might not necessarily impact the open market. As for Elon swapping into wrapped Bitcoin and staking in some Trump-related DeFi project, well, while there's a huge chance that it may be true based on his recent political stance, there is just no solid proof of that speculation. Tesla has always been dynamic with Bitcoin, with any sales previously done more out of financial reasons than crypto specific strategies. As for me and for now I hope that it won't affect the current market effort to bring Bitcoin into a bull run.
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I mean, it could be many thing, but one thing for sure, I think the market can contain this, if ever tesla just decided to sell it off, some microstrategy and blackrock buying bitcoin by the billions didn't even budge the market, I doubt tesla's sell off will hardly matter at this point, the market is too big and it seems tesla influence towards the sentiment of the market is fading anyway. people aren't as concerned to tesla selling off as back then, we've had some big sell off and the market is still pretty bullish.

it's probably nothing and market will move on the next weeks disregarding the information as if it didn't exist.
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OP, why are you hitting those that have done that and stake providing liquidity to the projects that have just came to the market? they're not Trump coin supporters.  Grin
I know that you're sarcastic and let's go to our cousin Elon. I'll just wait until he makes some announcement again that will create another surge. We're in a bull run but whenever he tweets good things about Bitcoin, everyone reacts. But what I don't like him is when he hits Bitcoin then it's really hit badly. So, with such news about moving bitcoins of Tesla or any other known company or personality into wallets or exchanges isn't a thing to be worried with.
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I don't see any reason why we should panic with such an amount of Bitcoin getting moved from one wallet to another, for goodness sake it could be just from an internal wallet to another cold wallet so nothing more than that and even if Tesla decided to dump those coins in the market because of current market gains, it won't have a long lasting impact on the market and as a matter of fact we may likely not even noticed it dump, that is how strong Bitcoin have become lately and for sure a lot of things is going to be happening that we shouldn't take so seriously such as this fund's movement.
Most times, we panic for nothing because companies have several reasons why their hold and move coins around most times, the fact that we sees a wallet Bitcoin movement from cooperate entities shouldn't be a thing to panic about.
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Elon could have done it at any time and he could have moved all his bitcoin to any other wallet for unknow purposes.
I don't think it's really worth paying any special attention to - but many investors would probably consider the negative sentiment of moving hundreds of millions of dollars worth of bitcoin. If Elon wanted to sell it - he could do it any time, he's smart and probably wouldn't make the same mistake the German government made a while ago by transferring it to the exchange and selling it.
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Elon Musk won't be able to manipulate the market anymore, he has lost a bit of trust.
That's absolutely truth, because It's obvious this huge transaction from Elon Musk is likely to have been a strategy to manipulate the current price of Bitcoin which just started becoming bullish few days ago, and I'm very much happy Elon Musk has lost his influence on Bitcoin anymore, unlike back in 2021 when he announced his company Tesla stopping to accept Bitcoin for the sales of his electric motors which affected it's price drastically.
The community had already leanrt up on the things in the past on which i do also agree that when it comes to trust of people or community then it is way more lesser now in compared into those first time engagement int oti. Somehow there would really be that still those individuals who are really that attentive on whatever this dude would realy be tweeting because if we do see then these news or events will really be making out some
effects or not. For those who had been following they they would really be that trying to embrace out such opportunity.

As for those transfers into other wallet then why would people be always conclusive that there would really be that a huge sell off? Well, this is really that common sense that in any purchase
then there's a sell off and there's nothing we can do if Elon would really be dumping all the coins that he has for profits. I do believe that he did make out some good entry
on buying those coins and a businessman and investor then the main priority you do have in mind is on how to make profits.
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Elon Musk won't be able to manipulate the market anymore, he has lost a bit of trust.
That's absolutely truth, because It's obvious this huge transaction from Elon Musk is likely to have been a strategy to manipulate the current price of Bitcoin which just started becoming bullish few days ago, and I'm very much happy Elon Musk has lost his influence on Bitcoin anymore, unlike back in 2021 when he announced his company Tesla stopping to accept Bitcoin for the sales of his electric motors which affected it's price drastically.
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Could it be hacked? LOL...

But seriously, it’s not a big deal if that wallet moved, unless it was hacked. Since it’s likely the proceeds from selling Tesla cars, I’m sure the government is watching it closely. They’d definitely want to know when that Bitcoin moves, especially if it gets sold for a profit, so they can tax it. With Bitcoin looking like it might hit a new ATH soon, they’re probably even more interested now.

As long as the Bitcoins were just moved to different wallets of his property, then there would be no taxable event yet, although I wouldn't understand the reason for the transfer. But the OP states that the ownership of these wallets is unknown Huh which sounds quite weird.

Maybe he has done it simply to let people talk now that, as said above, speculation about the possibility of a new big pump/ATH is increasing... unlike $crypto$ I still think that he is able to manipulate the market (and other things) again with the signals he sends, as he is also able to capture an incredible amount of attention.
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So Tesla still has plenty of bitcoin from car sales in 2021? Very curious because what I know is that Tesla has sold ownership in the past?

Well I'm not going to speculate more about Tesla's bitcoins being moved to an unknown wallet, maybe there's a reason or it's avoiding government snooping?

Elon Musk won't be able to manipulate the market anymore, he has lost a bit of trust.
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I have nothing against him selling until the last satoshi, because he only did a lot of damage to BTC, but the average small investor still thinks that he is important with the small number of BTC he has. If he is really so intelligent that he invests those BTC in some stupid project, I hope that he will eventually lose them - but what is a few hundred million $ for someone who has hundreds of billions of $.
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Haha, love the take! Knowing how unpredictable Elon can be, I wouldn't be surprised if he’s cooking up something bigger behind the scenes rather than just dumping it all. Swapping and staking it seems like a power move.

Tesla offloading BTC like this right before a pump? I’d say staking with Trump might indeed be the more stable bet, at least for the entertainment value!
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The bitcoin was transferred to an unknown wallet, not an exchange wallet. So it is very possible that Tesla is not selling the coins. But if he wants to sell the coins, it is better he does that. And if he wants to stop buying bitcoin, that would be better than its past manipulation. He manipulated people to buy doge and discouraged people to buy bitcoin. But which coin is winning now? He has no influence on bitcoin price.

It’s more like a transfer to another safe wallet, come to think of it, the wallet this was moved to is a ledger wallet that might be one of this old cold storage like hardware wallet since it’s not an exchange. This whales like Tesla are actually making their transactions public just for public attention and nothing more maybe their aim is to try to manipulate the Market or what. But bitcoin is bigger than this kind of movement.

This step today by Tesla to have some of their funds in bitcoin and not another Altcoins like the Dodge that Elon Musk himself was Shilling that year and fudding bitcoin then shows that the Altcoins are just pump and dump tokens and no amount of hype will make it go beyond that. Anybody that has Doge since then will be in heavy loss now compare to bitcoin
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The bitcoin was transferred to an unknown wallet, not an exchange wallet. So it is very possible that Tesla is not selling the coins. But if he wants to sell the coins, it is better he does that. And if he wants to stop buying bitcoin, that would be better than its past manipulation. He manipulated people to buy doge and discouraged people to buy bitcoin. But which coin is winning now? He has no influence on bitcoin price.
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The story is not so clear. That is absolutely ridiculous if I may say. I am just being skeptical of why would the corporative affair of Tesla intend to move it all acquired Bitcoin of  whole 11,500 Bitcoin worth of $760 million to another wallet in the first place.
Perhaps it did not detail the intention of why the transaction processing before landed on the wrong wallet.

I don't think we should even take this too personal probably they want to remind us how rich Elon Musk with his holdings on Bitcoin.
The dude facial expression even look more excited than I just reading the shock new. Lol.

But in any case lets hope on the guru recoverers because I believe Elon could always afford to hire the most professionals in his case like this.

Could it be hacked? LOL...

But seriously, it’s not a big deal if that wallet moved, unless it was hacked. Since it’s likely the proceeds from selling Tesla cars, I’m sure the government is watching it closely. They’d definitely want to know when that Bitcoin moves, especially if it gets sold for a profit, so they can tax it. With Bitcoin looking like it might hit a new ATH soon, they’re probably even more interested now.
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The story is not so clear. That is absolutely ridiculous if I may say. I am just being skeptical of why would the corporative affair of Tesla intend to move it all acquired Bitcoin of  whole 11,500 Bitcoin worth of $760 million to another wallet in the first place.
Perhaps it did not detail the intention of why the transaction processing before landed on the wrong wallet.

I don't think we should even take this too personal probably they want to remind us how rich Elon Musk with his holdings on Bitcoin.
The dude facial expression even look more excited than I just reading the shock new. Lol.

But in any case lets hope on the guru recoverers because I believe Elon could always afford to hire the most professionals in his case like this.
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Seeing that picture with him laughing, it's clear as day, this is definitely tied to the current bull run, no doubt about it.

But nah, Elon won't be selling, not yet. He knows he still has the power to sway the market. My wild guess? He's probably scheming to pump another altcoin, but it’s definitely not Trump’s coin. That thing isn’t even trading yet, and it's too niche with just a few people on the whitelist. Plus, if they play that card, it might backfire politically---Trump's opponents could use it against him. You get what I mean, right?

I’m thinking it’s an old altcoin that feels like a meme, something like DOGE was back then. Definitely not SHIBA though, they’re cut from the same cloth. Hmm... what could it be? Well, we’ll know soon enough when Bitcoin smashes its ATH and Elon drops a tweet. Now that he owns the platform, his reach is insane, and that hype? Oh, it'll be massive!
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I very much speculate that our favorite cousin Elon will not dump these coins of Tesla. What he might do is swap them to wrapped bitcoin, WBTC and provide liquidity or stake them to earn yield from Trump's new DeFi project called World Liberty Financial hehejehehehe.

I reckon staking on Trump is much more of a certainty than dumping on our faces before a big pump.



Elon Musk's Tesla, one of the biggest corporate owners of bitcoin (BTC), transferred nearly all $760 million of the cryptocurrency it owns to unknown wallets, raising the possibility the carmaker is selling.

Wallets associated with the electric car manufacturer on Tuesday moved more than 11,500 bitcoin to wallets whose ownership is unknown, according to crypto data firm Arkham Intelligence. The Tesla wallets only retain about $6.65 worth of BTC – essentially nothing.


Read in full https://www.coindesk.com/business/2024/10/15/is-elon-musk-selling-bitcoin-tesla-transfers-all-760m-of-its-btc-to-unknown-wallets/
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