Tether is centralized, is it worth holding

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I don't think it's a problem, stable coins are more suitable for centralization so that whoever holds them never worries about losing money due to various reasons and problems with decentralization, in fact I prefer centralization so that anyone doesn't worry about transferring money to stable coins.

That's false.

As a stablecoin holder, you definitely need to be cognizant of the risks associated with a centralized reserve regime. Otherwise you are not only lending out your fiat for free to the provider, and taking on all the default risk of the stablecoin provider.

Tether is very risky to hold for the long run, and I would not hold it as I said unless I get some great APRs for doing so on some DeFi farming strategy. There is no point denying that.

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I think that it's all about Risk-Reward.

The deposit rates on Tether offered by major DeFi protocols may make it attractive to hold Tether in the short run, for instance I know plenty of pools offering 20%+ APR on Tether pairs.

But if you are merely holding it as a "savings account", you are doing it wrong. Not only does Tether not pay out any interest, they have fractional reserve issues, and obviously they are incredibly centralized and may make very arbitrary decisions regarding their tokens.

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Basically, the main purpose of hodling a coin is to make profit/ROI, except of course if you want to use the coin as a currency, and at the moment, Bitcoin is more or less the only digital coin whose demand as a currency continues to grow fast and is definitely headed for mainstream usage. Having said that, as far as Tether is concerned, there are a few other things to use it for than to consider hodling, I wouldn't hold it for no reason, as a matter of fact, I wouldn't hold a lot of coins, I keep it at Bitcoin and a few other projects that look bright and sustainable for the long period.

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Quote from: _act_ on January 14, 2022, 04:19:29 AM

I have noticed USDT to be the dominant coin on exchanges and this help in having the highest marketcap of all the whole existing stable coins. I am thinking may be because tether is centralized has been the reason centralized exchanges have liked it because they are centralized too. Check this out, it is about a recent USDT that has been frozen by Tether company.

Tether freezes $150 million in USDT
https://shibastore.co/tether-freezes-150-million-in-usdt/

I am afraid one day tether is going to freeze my coin or anybody's coin, the reason the coin that was frozen this year was frozen has not be known but may be it is a good reason, but I am thinking not to use USDT ever again because it is centralized.

What do you think about tether company having the power or ability to freeze any USDT of their choice. Is it a good idea?

Those accounts were freeze because the authority authorised them to do so, it is centralized and may not be very ideal to hold funds for long term, there is no need to be afraid, good thing there are more decentralized options out there, better to use other decentralized stablecoins put there instead

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on January 14, 2022, 05:35:39 AM

It's common knowledge now that USDT is centralized. Worth holding? No. I only use it for short them trades. Fiat is no better but I would rather have it because I'd be dealing directly with my local bank than some private company (Tether) registered in another country

Fiat is better, not that you are only dealing with your bank, you are also dealing with your central bank of your country, unlike tether.

Quote from: hugeblack on January 14, 2022, 05:49:37 AM

As a normal user, I don't expect your account to be frozen, but they can.

I am thinking of a way I am using a private key wallet but unknowingly make a deal with a scam that just sent USDT to me in a way tether company will see me who is innocent as the criminal and freeze my coin.

Quote from: hugeblack on January 14, 2022, 05:49:37 AM

- USDC: It is centralized but better than Tether and is well listed in many exchanges.
- DAI: Central currency but cannot be frozen and listed in some exchanges.
- BUSD: many be better than Tether ?!

I will prefer to hold Dai with the good research I have done about the coin. I do not know why I still see BUSD suspicious but I may not be right.

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Back in the days, I was thinking of holding some of my money to USDT before I attempt to buy my first Bitcoin. Turns out it is indeed a bad idea.
You should check out this thread, OP - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/updated-psa-most-stablecoins-can-be-frozen-even-in-your-own-wallets-5204055

DAI is being suggested to be hold instead of Tether.

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Why are you even wondering to hold a stable coin? Doesn't matter it's USDT or whatever. Holding USDT and keeping money in the bank is the same. Both are centralized. USDT is a controversial currency that isn't transparent about backed assets. So there would happen any problem at any time. If you strongly want to hold a stable coin you may hold DAI. They can't prevent you from using that anyway. But I am not a fan of holding the stable coin at all.

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Usdt is big despite been centralised it leads over every other stable coins in crypto space I wouldn't worry too much if I were you, if your fund is too big split them into two or three and store them using three different usdt wallet address

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Almost all stable coin are centralized and those that are not are backed by centralized asset. Usdt is the biggest stable coin and in spite of all the controversies surround it, it has done pretty well in the recent years. The aim of any stable is to serve as hedge against volatility of cryptocurrency. I believe bitcoin and other decentralized coin should be held instead of stable coin for long term!

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Quote from: _act_ on January 14, 2022, 04:19:29 AM

I have noticed USDT to be the dominant coin on exchanges and this help in having the highest marketcap of all the whole existing stable coins. I am thinking may be because tether is centralized has been the reason centralized exchanges have liked it because they are centralized too. Check this out, it is about a recent USDT that has been frozen by Tether company.

Tether freezes $150 million in USDT
https://shibastore.co/tether-freezes-150-million-in-usdt/

I am afraid one day tether is going to freeze my coin or anybody's coin, the reason the coin that was frozen this year was frozen has not be known but may be it is a good reason, but I am thinking not to use USDT ever again because it is centralized.

What do you think about tether company having the power or ability to freeze any USDT of their choice. Is it a good idea?

Stablecoins and Blacklists
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stablecoins-and-blacklists-5247581
I have been following this topic for a long time, if you want to keep money in stablecoins, then diversify your portfolio. Store less in USDT and more in USDC and DAI.Thanks for the new article.

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Don't get it twisted you won't make a penny holding USDT in your wallet because it's a stable coin, the only reason to hold this coin is to buy other coins that aren't stable maybe when there is a big dip in the market, I use USDC, UST, and DAI if you like decentralized stable coin go for DAI

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Tether will only freeze your funds if you get them through unclean ways or from fraudsters, I've store 50k in usdt for months with no issue if your fund is clean you have no problem friend, usdt is reliable give it a try but if you want a better reliable stable coin go for BUSD

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Quote from: _act_ on January 14, 2022, 04:19:29 AM

I am afraid one day tether is going to freeze my coin or anybody's coin, the reason the coin that was frozen this year was frozen has not be known but may be it is a good reason, but I am thinking not to use USDT ever again because it is centralized.

I have been using USDT for years and i never encounter any problem with this asset and so far this is the safest asset to keep money reserved funds.
You have decided not to use USDT and then what's next? you have been answering your own question. Those frozen assets were related to the hacked cases. So many hacked cases happened and tether was securing their stable coins from the hackers.

Quote from: _act_ on January 14, 2022, 04:19:29 AM

What do you think about tether company having the power or ability to freeze any USDT of their choice. Is it a good idea?

It's not a problem and in some critical cases this function is very useful to make sure tether can do something once the worst case happen with any exchange site. This is also very helpfur for users who got affected by the hacked case

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Holding for investment maybe no, but if there are no BIDR as fiat currency then i hold USDT in market. It can be useful for me because what familiar for me is USDT for now although maybe there are a lot of stablecoin in market. But mostly and easier for me to hold is USDT.

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Tether is a centralized coin that has a fixed value, 1 tether = 1usd, so it's not worth holding as you only hold a coin that increases its value over time like bitcoin and altcoins which has a fixed supply. I only use tether for trading as that's the only purpose I find it suitable for me.

We have to understand first the value of the coins in the crypto space so we will know how to treat them.

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Well, ive never kept usdt for too long, though I trade a lot with it and some times, I pair it with other coins or token to provide liquidity on decentralized exchanges, but I don't leave it there more than 1 month.
Just like others have said, tether is best used for short term trades, since we now know it's centralized, and not just that, they also have power to freeze any body's money anytime, any day, so when it comes to holding for long, better to choose DAI which I believe is completely decentralized.

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Quote from: _act_ on January 14, 2022, 04:19:29 AM

What do you think about tether company having the power or ability to freeze any USDT of their choice. Is it a good idea?

You have already answer this question by the example you've provided. In addition, there are no guarantees that all the existing Tether is backed by real dollar as a reserve although exchanges have always confirmed this.

However, this is not the only reason for you to stop using this coin.
USDT was built at top of Ethereum as an ERC20 token, and you might noticed how much high the gaz fee for tokens in the ethereum network. Maybe i have also need to mention that this coin has a stable value

Even if you use USDT within exchanges as a trade pair, i advice you not to use it for large amounts.

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Quote from: _act_ on January 14, 2022, 04:19:29 AM

I have noticed USDT to be the dominant coin on exchanges and this help in having the highest marketcap of all the whole existing stable coins. I am thinking may be because tether is centralized has been the reason centralized exchanges have liked it because they are centralized too.

I think liquidity may also play its parts here. It isn't merely the fact an exchange is centralized so they liked of how the way Tether is centralized. Regarding the USDT still being at the largest market cap, I believe market pairs which somewhat connected to liquidity, also have correlations, I also trying to figure out of how much an exchange accepts USDT over other stable coins but can't find the exact numbers.

Quote from: _act_ on January 14, 2022, 04:19:29 AM

I am afraid one day tether is going to freeze my coin or anybody's coin, the reason the coin that was frozen this year was frozen has not be known but may be it is a good reason, but I am thinking not to use USDT ever again because it is centralized.

What do you think about tether company having the power or ability to freeze any USDT of their choice. Is it a good idea?

If you are decided to stay away from it then it's good.

I believe the ability of Tether to censor some addresses is actually a good thing! I mean what can we expect from such a centralized entity, if someone didn't like the way the company behave or their lack of audit then simply staying away from it is a no brainer. There is a variety of options to choose another stable coin, so there is no reason to keep whining about it.

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Quote from: _act_ on January 14, 2022, 04:19:29 AM

What do you think about tether company having the power or ability to freeze any USDT of their choice. Is it a good idea?

no, there is nothing good about this. this is very detrimental to decentralization and very detrimental to their users. this is the reason why i don't like centralized system. tether is bad, and I don't recommend you use this stablecoin. I prefer to use DAI, although not too many exchanges support this stablecoin, but I think DAI is better.

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If you are thinking about the long term, no tether isn't worth holding. Its price is pegged to USD anyway. Why would you hold it? As you realized, it is not decentralized neither. It can be confiscated. Hold bitcoin if you want to hold it for a long time. It can't be confiscated and it is decentralized. Tether can disappear any time, but bitcoin will live on no matter what happens. 1btc will always be equal to 1btc.

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no, not worth hold, but still good enough to use. If you want to hold, I recommend using DAI, because stablecoins are more decentralized than tether. tether is only good to use not to hold funds for long, I've had some issues with their users in the past. and I don't want you to be one of them.

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Quote from: _act_ on January 14, 2022, 04:19:29 AM

What do you think about tether company having the power or ability to freeze any USDT of their choice. Is it a good idea?

I would never hold Tether long term, only short term for exchanges. I believe that there is a lot wrong with Tether and that all issued coins are not really backed by USD. If the bomb goes off at some point, I don't want to own Tether.

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Quote from: _act_ on January 14, 2022, 04:19:29 AM

I have noticed USDT to be the dominant coin on exchanges and this help in having the highest marketcap of all the whole existing stable coins. I am thinking may be because tether is centralized has been the reason centralized exchanges have liked it because they are centralized too. Check this out, it is about a recent USDT that has been frozen by Tether company.

Tether freezes $150 million in USDT
https://shibastore.co/tether-freezes-150-million-in-usdt/

I am afraid one day tether is going to freeze my coin or anybody's coin, the reason the coin that was frozen this year was frozen has not be known but may be it is a good reason, but I am thinking not to use USDT ever again because it is centralized.

What do you think about tether company having the power or ability to freeze any USDT of their choice. Is it a good idea?

There have been discussions and arguments about USDT for at least a few months now regarding it's safety and other stuff. The mean reason for the concerns that many people are having with USDT is the fact that we can not be sure if every USDT that is minted is still really backed by a real USD anymore because back in 2019 they changed the wording regarding this very important factor. The official statement regarding this is now that they have enough reserves to cover every USDT minted, but nobody knows if those reserves really exist and no one knows what kind of reserves that they are talking about. I think though that most stablecoins are centralized.

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why hold on for a long time just for stable coins like this Cheesy

Maybe for short term trading as well as to avoid the current market which is very irregular this kind of thing can be done but for holding especially for the long term I don't think such thing is good and not worth holding on to.
it would be better to hold some potential alts instead of them.

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I thought this is an old story already.

And regarding the question, it is worth holding? just like other stable coins out there, it is not design to be hold for long term. I mean at least in my case I used it to hedge any of my crypto, but that's it. I will withdraw immediately. So obviously it is very centralized and has very shady people from behind as well.

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Tether is a central currency for a while, and they also failed to prove that they are a pegged currency, meaning every existing dollar equals a dollar from the company, so that all their assets are less than 4%.

As a normal user, I don't expect your account to be frozen, but they can.

If you are afraid, there are some alternatives:

- USDC: It is centralized but better than Tether and is well listed in many exchanges.
- DAI: Central currency but cannot be frozen and listed in some exchanges.
- BUSD: many be better than Tether ?!

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For holding, choose DAI.

But for short trades, it's okay IMHO.

You choose other stable coins if you don't like to hold Tether because of its centralization but most of these stable coins are the same except the others that are decentralized like DAI.

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It's common knowledge now that USDT is centralized. Worth holding? No. I only use it for short them trades. Fiat is no better but I would rather have it because I'd be dealing directly with my local bank than some private company (Tether) registered in another country.

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I have noticed USDT to be the dominant coin on exchanges and this help in having the highest marketcap of all the whole existing stable coins. I am thinking may be because tether is centralized has been the reason centralized exchanges have liked it because they are centralized too. Check this out, it is about a recent USDT that has been frozen by Tether company.

Tether freezes $150 million in USDT
https://shibastore.co/tether-freezes-150-million-in-usdt/

I am afraid one day tether is going to freeze my coin or anybody's coin, the reason the coin that was frozen this year was frozen has not be known but may be it is a good reason, but I am thinking not to use USDT ever again because it is centralized.

What do you think about tether company having the power or ability to freeze any USDT of their choice. Is it a good idea?

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