Topic: Thanks for the RED rating dooglas & aksplace.Long live BITWIN, now 99% payouts!! (Read 807 times)

It's hard to understand what you're saying.  Do you mind if I take a guess?

They don't even claim to be fair.  They have admitted to not being fair, and even gone as far as to claim that provable fairness is a scam.

To address your second point, I'm not claiming anything about the relative popularity of any sites.  At the time of writing, Just-Dice has processed bets totalling over 4.5 million BTC, and paid out over 99.8% of that to players.  BitWin don't publish any such stats that I've seen, so it's impossible to compare them.  But that's not important.  What's important is that some sites are provably fair, and some admit to systematically cheating their players.

To address your third point, that it's impossible to win on Just-Dice, I would point you at nakowa, who has won over 10,000 BTC on the site as a player, and earned thousands more as an investor.  There are many other players who won lots of coins, but he really stands out as the biggest.

Must have served him some cold cookies again. Darn it!

doog they don have to that to bring punter to thier site , your site don have much player too ( cant be win )

I gave you a negative trust rating because you run a casino that has admitted to cheating.  The company that supplies your software even mentions in its manual that the software:


That's a quote from the DMCA takedown notice that the software provider issued to try to cover up the fact that their software cheats.  Apparently if people found out that their software deliberately makes players lose, it


So forget all the "wah he runs his own site so that's why he is calling us scammers" nonsense.  I couldn't care less if people play at Just-Dice or not.  Like you say it's just a boring provably fair dice game.  No flashing lights, sound effects, or cheating.  Yawn.

The reason I'm calling you scammers is because you run a casino that has admitted to cheating its users.

Simple as!

You're missing the point dude, every damn time. Or you are ignoring them because you are not able to understand them. There are also other sites with edge lower than 1%, so you are not even winning there.

No one is saying that they will win more at other sites, that is not the point. All they are saying is that if you make a bet and the result comes out as X, they can verify that this result X couldn't have produced by the site to favor the casino.

On your site, if a result come out as X, it is totally possible that the software decided to pick X on purpose to make you lose, so the casino can continue working. And you cannot prove that is not the case, because your software distributor already said it is. If there is something wrong with that information, you should focus on proving that.

you are living in a land of delusion if you think you can beat any casino. The closest you will ever become is Bitwins 99%.

Oldminer was also Reded by them, and he is just a player, who supports Bitwin because he knows its fun to play and hard to lose. All of those 100 points he is paying out, are from his own winnings, i am not funding him those funds, nor am i paying him for doing so.  So how can somone whos given away 1000s of points be scamming people?

Doogles is getting worried to stoop to such low levels of falsety, because once his players find out how cool bitwin is, they wont go back to his boring dice

Just stop scamming people man , its others hard earn money we all know your casino wont lose .

You guys are using dirty tactics to bring punters to your site, making them think they have more chance of winning than bitwin.

Most people seeing this, who are regular bitwin (or redcoincasino) users, or know me know im not a scammer, or run a scam site. But run fair sites that offers a high probability of winning.

The only people acusing me of scamming are either those 2 clowns, their groupies, or some followers of them, who had badluck at bitwin and assumed its a scam...

Fiat casinos use the same type of system as us, way before those "provably fair" dice sites came on the scene, and no one has a problem with it.
Our customers arnt betting on a transaction hash, so you cant check it like that, but that does not make it a scam.

Yes the software has the ability to change how much is paid out.  But actually the ratio at bitwin (99%) is set way higher
than the mathematical probability of winning, so forced losses on such games dont happen.

Any extra made from the difference in winning and the payout, like for instance lets pretend blackjack average is 75% return, that remainder 24% is not casino profits...  once the blackjack bank is filled the remainder is spilled into the slots fund and dispersed on other games to insure bitwin always pays 99%, While still keeping sufficient funds in the blackjack bank for lucky players to win. (else bitwin would make more than 1% commission)

Thanks to your propaganda people think they will win more from just dice etc, than bitwin, when actually they have MUCH more chance to win at bitwin.