The beginning of the end for centralized AI?

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

Actually blockchain is a good way of storing information, but not working with data, so any AI project has tendency to become Centralized, since doesn't matter how many data servers containing the whole blockchain there are, the support and stability staff remains to be a certain highly centralised group of people. When data is just stored, then it is a good way to keep data, but calculating data for AI is anyway a centralized process.

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A lot of people had been pushing for the ban of AI because it had been breaching copy right in a way that people now does not wwnt to follow the normal process to get things done. Many people prefer the use of AI which make work too easier and this can cause big problem in the future if it continues. If the government put a ban on it then I think that would be a good move to make people concentrate on focus on the the normal procedures of there jobs. When work becomes too easy people would become too lazy to deliver.

Some sort of control is needed, for example in the case of students it was difficult already to get them to do their own homework due to the help they can get from their parents, peers and even specialized services which made their homework for them for a price, if you add ChatGPT to the mix then I would be surprised if in a few years any student did their homework at all on their own, and this is just an example as the same could be happening everywhere from the office to interpersonal relationships.

that's one negative repercussion of having chatGPT these days. some people are just relying on what it will answer to their questions. but of course, it has limitations. you can't expect that they will have a very comprehensive answer to every question as they are only relying on the database they have. we can use these chatbots to some extent esp if we are in a hurry to know something. but --

what i don't like to see from the news is like this, a very tragic one!

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That's true, as I've said couple of times here in this forum that AI right now is at an early stage in life. In short, it is still an infant when it comes to answering questions, since mostly the ideas they have gathered and filtered before answering are datas that are generally used in the public. Aside from that, I didn't really have problems on chatGPT so far since I'll only used those whenever I get lazy into researching something or helping my nieces into making a storybook. That is also why I depend on AI whenever I get lazy researching coz as I've said above, they filtered out unnecessary information which will take you longer on searching things on the web, but in terms of trading or making accurate decisions on the market? No, I don't fully trust AI on that, coz even if I'm only using it to filter the necessary ideas I want, there are still information that I didn't need that still slipped out on their filtering, so there are still possibilities that they might messed up.

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Quote from: South Park on April 07, 2023, 06:29:37 PM

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A lot of people had been pushing for the ban of AI because it had been breaching copy right in a way that people now does not wwnt to follow the normal process to get things done. Many people prefer the use of AI which make work too easier and this can cause big problem in the future if it continues. If the government put a ban on it then I think that would be a good move to make people concentrate on focus on the the normal procedures of there jobs. When work becomes too easy people would become too lazy to deliver.

Some sort of control is needed, for example in the case of students it was difficult already to get them to do their own homework due to the help they can get from their parents, peers and even specialized services which made their homework for them for a price, if you add ChatGPT to the mix then I would be surprised if in a few years any student did their homework at all on their own, and this is just an example as the same could be happening everywhere from the office to interpersonal relationships.

that's one negative repercussion of having chatGPT these days. some people are just relying on what it will answer to their questions. but of course, it has limitations. you can't expect that they will have a very comprehensive answer to every question as they are only relying on the database they have. we can use these chatbots to some extent esp if we are in a hurry to know something. but --

what i don't like to see from the news is like this, a very tragic one!

Belgian man dies by suicide following exchanges with chatbot

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Quote from: Bushdark on April 07, 2023, 02:04:34 PM

A lot of people had been pushing for the ban of AI because it had been breaching copy right in a way that people now does not wwnt to follow the normal process to get things done. Many people prefer the use of AI which make work too easier and this can cause big problem in the future if it continues. If the government put a ban on it then I think that would be a good move to make people concentrate on focus on the the normal procedures of there jobs. When work becomes too easy people would become too lazy to deliver.

Some sort of control is needed, for example in the case of students it was difficult already to get them to do their own homework due to the help they can get from their parents, peers and even specialized services which made their homework for them for a price, if you add ChatGPT to the mix then I would be surprised if in a few years any student did their homework at all on their own, and this is just an example as the same could be happening everywhere from the office to interpersonal relationships.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

I suppose that all the decentralized projects tend to become centralized. This happens because forking problems lead to instability of many parallel data... So the tendency to decentralization works well with data storage but works not well with data processing, and AI is fully about data processing, that's why the project is too troubled to be decentralized.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

~is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

You clearly do not understand what you are saying.

A single country banning them won't make ChatGPT obsolete. And Decentralised AI project is useless, they did not solve any problem nor have any utility. The possibility that OpenAI getting banned in other part of the world is very unlikely since they have to comply with where their customer base is. What I meant you did not understand a thing is that you incorporate AI with blockchain/crypto which is incompatible in essence. Explain those things about the decentralized AI project and AI on the blockchain, I am certain you don't even understand it.

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Well, what you are saying that it cannot be banned, I think that is wrong in that regard, because they have already banned it in various schools, universities and even other staff of a company based on what I have seen that news. It's because the AI is getting too complacent, but of course we'll still see what can happen because it's just starting, and it's always like that, isn't it, it's always difficult at the beginning. Though, I don't like it also to use it.

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A lot of people had been pushing for the ban of AI because it had been breaching copy right in a way that people now does not wwnt to follow the normal process to get things done. Many people prefer the use of AI which make work too easier and this can cause big problem in the future if it continues. If the government put a ban on it then I think that would be a good move to make people concentrate on focus on the the normal procedures of there jobs. When work becomes too easy people would become too lazy to deliver.

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Quote from: Unbunplease on April 04, 2023, 06:38:46 PM

I don't think there's anything laws can do to stop the development of artificial intelligence. One reason is that people are paid to work on the development of artificial intelligence. In fact, developing artificial intelligence is their job description. And all these appeals and bans look ridiculous (like the riots against the development of factory production once looked like).

It not exactly pointless when it's got to do with issues of privacy encroachment and having to lift data from users without any due process. Taking an action as a means to mitigate this is definitely a step in the right direction. Though there might be means to access and use the services, it's not going yo come without some complications.
I recall when Twitter was banned in my nation for issues related to spreading fake news by local users although, after much deliberation, it was revived. It might not be the end for ChatGPT in Italy but, its some means to get some compliance and a more user protective approach to it's service dispensation.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

You should know the impact of the ban made by Italy for example, there is an invitation about privacy that makes them try to limit it, because they are worried that the collection of user data will end up in an ugly crime. Even though ChatGPT was not designed for that, it could be used by some people for a planned crime, the ban is also temporary and if they comply with the law it is likely to be lifted.

If you understand Cryptocurrency is decentralized in several countries, there are some that allow it to be used as a commodity asset but it is regulated on exchanges that already have permission and there are some that completely prohibit it from being able to operate in that country, if it is violated there are consequences that will be received by user. It's not final how the continuation of ChatGPT will experience a worldwide ban, because this is still in the early stages of its development that I know.

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I think centralized AI is not a thing, it is just AI from a company, not everything has to be centralized or decentralized, by this logic all the phone brands are "centralized" because apple or Samsung or whatever owns it, or all tv's are centralized because they are produced by a company etc. Sometimes it is just a company and it is product, you can't call a product centralized, that makes no sense at all, it is their product of course it is centralized.

I believe that the best thing here is that let the nations decide for itself, ban it or not however you want to approach it if they want to, but just let them decide for themselves and voters will show their decision as well.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

Things like that need to be Open-sourced and Transparent, but they most likely prefer it closed to prevent potential competitors from copying it, to remain in the dark probably because their method is evil that they don't want it to be public/transparent hence avoiding accountability.
I think decentralized AI will be transparent and accountable. But you'll also have to be worried about people copying, modifying, centralizing and close sourcing it.
Participants of proper Open-Source projects are more likely to continue to build on right/good foundations started by their founders as long as there remains honest/good participants that can't be censored or identified.

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I think the reason for most of them is that you can selectively give the data you want. Meaning that if you give it a good data for one political candidate and bad data for another, you can change even some of the discussions as well. I am not saying that's going to happen, or that's the reason, but the data fed into the AI is the main reason, because that makes it centralized and that's the issue.

I personally believe that we could potentially have a proper one in the future, but a decentralized one would be filled with hitler and whatever jokes or doge and memes, which would make it terrible as well, so you gotta do a centralized one without any political or any other type of leaning.

I agree with your point of view, and the fact that a tool product is born always has problems around in the process of using it. But I also find that their benefits are more widespread than just seeing the danger to the masses, and this makes me think even more about the negative possibility of limiting information between the two. everybody. Influential people still use them to influence those who can't, and here sharing knowledge for all comes with universalization of more ethical use in public works. this tool. I think this would be really cool if everyone adopted it like that, but first of all, the thing to do is adapt to this new technology change.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

I have not heard of any such rumor but if it does indeed exist then the best thing to do is make ChatGPT open source. I mean if it gets banned anyway then might as well give the people the opportunity to build their own ChatGPT as well as improve upon it.

The governments have absolutely no right or logical reason to ban it. I think its all coming down to a handful of bitter, old and scared men who get easily frightened by technology and therefore feel the need to ban it. And even if the fears are justified a tiny bit, how do they propose to stop it? All they are doing is fighting against the inevitable and wasting taxpayer money.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

Blockchain is a database. A very clunky and inefficient one.

AI is a program that first of all requires processing power. Not storage space. It makes zero sense to put "AI on blockchain", it's just technobabble.

And Italy didn't ban AI - they banned a chatbot website because it wasn't complying with Italy's privacy laws. But you can still use GPT-4 and other AIs in Italy in their other forms.

Blockchain, decentralization, these two are overly abused words I guess.

By the way, OP, no one can ban AI, it's just impossible because AI is made by using of math, data science, programming languages. There are a lot of programming languages used for that purposes, including python, C++, Java. It worth to note that this programming languages can't be banned and even if you ban, you have to keep in mind that logic is similar for all of them because they are based on Math, finally it comes down to 0 and 1. There is simply no way to ban AI, it's unstoppable, especially if it comes with ability to takeover endless amount of information and develop its analyzing skills and abilities with superfast calculation.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

Being centralized is not the problem but the existence of this AI technology is the real concern for banning this technology due to the potential risk involved. Building it on blockchain doesn’t make this AI less risk in contrary to the centralized AI. Most like this blockchain based AI will be banned too if the main ChatGPT is not allowed to use on a specific country.

Country like Italy might revised this total ban later and imposed some restrictions when this AI technology become a global phenomena. They are just scared because this is new.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

Banning AI is sheer stupidity, i have seen Italy has done that but their concerns are over the privacy concerns relating to user data. In general banning it to avoid it is Obviously not going to work. It hasn't worked in the past and will not work in the future also. Lots of governments previously also has tried banning emerging technologies like bitcoin also but nothing has actually worked ever.

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If governments are banning AI then definitely they might have found something nasty about the ChatGPT. Let me guess, ChatGPT is injecting itself into government servers or may be leaking out military server information in the public river? You never know what could be the reason but mostly it seems that they have predicted this already. There are also many other possibilities such as Centralised AI capturing critical info like stock market, shares, start predicting some next level outcomes. This could cause chaos everywhere and lead the humanity towards worst future. Well, if AI this powerful was easy to create then definitely it’s possible for it to go next level.

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In my opinion, whether the ban is official or not is still a wait and see, it is clear that governments around the world are increasingly concerned about privacy concerns regarding centralized AI. If centralized AI projects like ChatGPT or OpenAI face a ban in other parts of the world, perhaps we could see a rally in decentralized AI projects on the blockchain. This could lead to greater innovation and competition in the industry, as developers work to create more secure and decentralized AI solutions.

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Quote from: FrozenBit on April 06, 2023, 09:22:08 AM

I heard rumors about banning the use of ChatGPT, but it's really not clear. But if this happens, it will certainly have a significant impact on decentralized AI projects. ChatGPT and OpenAI are famous and globally influential AI projects, being banned in one country can become a premise for other countries to start banning them as well. This may affect the feasibility of decentralized AI projects and may lead to difficulty in developing these projects globally. If decentralized AI projects are banned or run into difficulties, there will certainly be outcry and protests from the scientific and engineering communities. However, raising these objections may not be enough to prevent bans on AI projects. It is important to find ways to address privacy and security issues openly and collaboratively, to ensure the sustainable development of AI and related technologies.

I think the reason for most of them is that you can selectively give the data you want. Meaning that if you give it a good data for one political candidate and bad data for another, you can change even some of the discussions as well. I am not saying that's going to happen, or that's the reason, but the data fed into the AI is the main reason, because that makes it centralized and that's the issue.

I personally believe that we could potentially have a proper one in the future, but a decentralized one would be filled with hitler and whatever jokes or doge and memes, which would make it terrible as well, so you gotta do a centralized one without any political or any other type of leaning.

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I heard rumors about banning the use of ChatGPT, but it's really not clear. But if this happens, it will certainly have a significant impact on decentralized AI projects. ChatGPT and OpenAI are famous and globally influential AI projects, being banned in one country can become a premise for other countries to start banning them as well. This may affect the feasibility of decentralized AI projects and may lead to difficulty in developing these projects globally. If decentralized AI projects are banned or run into difficulties, there will certainly be outcry and protests from the scientific and engineering communities. However, raising these objections may not be enough to prevent bans on AI projects. It is important to find ways to address privacy and security issues openly and collaboratively, to ensure the sustainable development of AI and related technologies.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

It's no wonder why ChatGPT is banned, depending on whether it's profitable or not because of the fact that when we ask for someone's data on ChatGPT, we will get it easily. Once again the privacy that is given for free and the data collection make ChatGPT quite dangerous. There are always its own pros and cons. The purpose of ChatGPT was created to help human work easier but being a double-edged sword can make it useful and vice versa.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

Why do you think that centralization or decentralization have something to do with AI technology?
Do you really think that blockchain technology can be used for creating and maintaining AI? Maybe it is theoretically possible, I'm not expert in AI, we should ask somebody who knows a thing or two about this subject.
Decentralized AI(or whatever you mean by this term) can be banned. The problem is that the government won't be successful at efficiently imposing that ban. Privacy isn't the only problem of AI. I'm sure that AI bots use lots of copyright protected text and images, without the permission of their authors, which is illegal.

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Many countries are afraid of the development of AI technology so that excessive supervision, in my opinion this is a mistake, when creativity is limited, ideas will emerge to fight the policy, AI is the future of technology that can make life better.

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Quote from: Unbunplease on April 04, 2023, 06:38:46 PM

I don't think there's anything laws can do to stop the development of artificial intelligence. One reason is that people are paid to work on the development of artificial intelligence. In fact, developing artificial intelligence is their job description. And all these appeals and bans look ridiculous (like the riots against the development of factory production once looked like).

Factory production and the development of artificial intelligence (AI) are completely different categories in terms of the threat to the continued existence of mankind. The development of factory production threatened only a part of the workers who were replaced by machines and deprived of their jobs. Here the situation is radically different. Artificial intelligence is able to learn and in many ways can surpass humans. And this is a threat that it is almost natural and logical that AI will want to destroy humanity. Already, human-piloted military aircraft have been able to hold out against AI in a simulator for only a minute and a half. AI fully predicts human actions and instantly makes the right decisions.

Now they predict the emergence of a new version of ChatGPT-5 and this will mean the practical identity of AI with the way a person thinks and realizes.
Such an AI is capable of understanding or learning any intellectual task that humans can perform. This is a direct threat to humanity and therefore it must be approached very seriously.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on April 05, 2023, 01:12:35 AM

It's not simple as that for saying if centralized AI get banned, there's will be a decentralized AI will comes up and can't get banned by the government.

There are many smart developers out there, but they will not spend all of his time to create a good project when he doesn't get any benefit, it's wasting time.

This is true, why would anyone dedicate his talent and skills in making a successful project? For sure he would gain something in return by releasing that project. Not only it gain popularity some might try to buy his project with its convenience it gives. Since many people acknowledged this AI, surely geniuses would do something about decentralized AI as government were concerned about Chatgpt. Here in my country once chatgpt was announced in public, most people rely on the information that the website give. Which is kinda scary as it gives fact informations. Chatgpt is a helpful website for people to use, but some would use it to illegal thing. So far government doesn't find it dangerous since there's still no issues about it.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on April 04, 2023, 08:41:05 AM

Any government that is uneasy about AI has the right to ban it in their country; to some point, they really know what's best for their citizens.
Possibly, those who are AI lovers will definitely want to fight for it and defend it in any way that they can.

But left to myself, I don't have much interest in this AI, if there is such a thing, in as much as they are good in different areas and render some kinds of support that make things a little bit easier. I still don't buy the idea of making AI as popular as it's becoming now without analyzing the risk factor that it might cause if humans eventually lose control over them; that's for the other AIs, which are not just built for writing purposes.

You cannot be interested in this great technological success, which is being applied in several fields and achieving amazing successes. However, a distinction must be made between artificial intelligence as a useful technology to certain extents, and artificial intelligence chat applications, which are considered one of those bad applications of technology.
Like all emerging projects, there are those who will try to exploit them in the worst way, mainly for profitable purposes. It is unfortunate that major companies are trying to employ them in a harmful way in one way or another.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

I hear you loud and clear about ChatGPT and the rumor mill that's swirling around it. But let's not get ahead of ourselves here, we gotta dig into the facts before we start shootin' off our mouths. And sure, the Italian government is worried about privacy, but that doesn't mean it's curtains for ChatGPT. Nah, it's actually a chance for ChatGPT to get its act together and make some serious improvements to its security and privacy features.

Now, when it comes to decentralized AI projects, they're all about stickin' it to the man and avoiding any sort of centralized control. So, even if ChatGPT gets the boot in certain countries, decentralized AI projects are still gonna be on the come up. Think about it, if ChatGPT does get banned, it could actually be a catalyst for the blockchain industry and decentralized AI projects could be the next big thing.

At the end of the day, it's too early to tell what's gonna happen with ChatGPT and the blockchain scene. We gotta stay on top of the latest deets, keep ourselves informed, and throw some support behind decentralized AI projects that are all about privacy and security. So, what's your take on this whole shebang?

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I find it funny to only see the negative problem it causes, perhaps we are so used to the service from scientific technology that we gradually lose more independence in creating products.

The benefits or negatives of adopting AI in society are probably out of the question here, but let's be fair with these tools, ethical use is what I feel needs to be universal variable, not the imposition of the risks it poses.

I see the emergence of AI as many modern tools and devices have appeared, it always creates different problems and people who are not able to adapt will find these things dangerous.

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It's not simple as that for saying if centralized AI get banned, there's will be a decentralized AI will comes up and can't get banned by the government.

How it's possible decentralized AI can work? if someone able to create it, do you think he will give it freely to everyone to use it? what's the motive and benefit for him? none.

There are many smart developers out there, but they will not spend all of his time to create a good project when he doesn't get any benefit, it's wasting time.

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I highly doubt said bans would last long, they're probably just setting up countermeasures for some "over extensions" of what ChatGPT is able to reach. I also doubt they'd do a full permanent ban in the future, AI capabilities would only continue to evolve from now on after all and they can't stop it, it's like how casinos weren't really able to be stopped even though countries have a countrywide ban for it, not to mention AI which can be really helpful if one knows how to use it.

And imo, AI crypto projects will die off regardless of a countries' stance to crypto.

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Italy has their reasons for the ban and it you have done your research well you will see some reasons to it too. For example, Italy already has a policy on data collection and according to them ChatGPT is in violation of that policy despite it being designed to be compliant with various privacy regulations such as GDPR, CCPA, and HIPAA. Around March 20th, there was a data breach that happened and a lot of personal data was collected. Maybe they want to follow in the footsteps of countries like China, North Korea, Russia and Iran where Open AI is inaccessible. ChatGPT is overhyped, in my opinion. Even the chat program's developers recognized the threat it posed to people, yet the users seem unconcerned.

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You need to distinguish that GPT or Open AI Chat projects are real projects that have been studied for many years and started to operate in recent years. While AI projects in cryptocurrency are imitating the technology to create a trend, and the purpose of these projects is to sell tokens and cheat each other to make money. They are completely different, so even if ChatGPT continues to evolve and AI technology reaches new heights, crypto scam projects will soon disappear when they are no longer monetized. The altcoin market is gambling, no technology there.

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I have seen a lot of news that chatgpt has been banned in different parts of the country around the world today, some are in K-12 school districts and some are in university colleges.

There are others in companies for their employees and others. maybe others saw that chatgpt had a bad effect on students so they did it and we can't blame them if that's what they did.

* https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/schools-colleges-banned-chat-gpt-similar-ai-tools/
* https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-20/using-chatgpt-at-work-nearly-half-of-firms-are-drafting-policies-on-its-use#xj4y7vzkg
* https://www.finextra.com/newsarticle/41906/central-bank-of-ireland-blocks-staff-use-of-chatgpt

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I don't think there's anything laws can do to stop the development of artificial intelligence. One reason is that people are paid to work on the development of artificial intelligence. In fact, developing artificial intelligence is their job description. And all these appeals and bans look ridiculous (like the riots against the development of factory production once looked like).

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

Blockchain is a database. A very clunky and inefficient one.

AI is a program that first of all requires processing power. Not storage space. It makes zero sense to put "AI on blockchain", it's just technobabble.

And Italy didn't ban AI - they banned a chatbot website because it wasn't complying with Italy's privacy laws. But you can still use GPT-4 and other AIs in Italy in their other forms.

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Upon having a short research this is what I've found. Italy became the first Western country to ban ChatGPT
Upon reading that article, not only Italy but also other countries have been increased or other plans to increase restriction reading AI projects.
Centralized or Decentralized systems can still be subject to legal and regulatory frameworks. It might possible that new regulations could be developed specifically targeting decentralized AI technologies.

But this question is still on my mind, I didn't see any official announcement, better to seek out official information and sources before jumping to conclusions because this is only a rumor.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

IMHO, it's just a rule and measure for that country to stop people from using it because it may include the usage from schools and children will be no longer studying well their lessons and assignments and all they have to do is ask chatgpt.

Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

I've got no idea that it's getting banned somewhere else but it could also happen in some countries that don't see its usage and worth. Relatively to blockchain and crypto, there have been a lot of ai projects even before the chatgpt became popular.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

If it is banned from public access,users will still find the possibility of accessing it,this is obvious and I don’t think that this will cause any problems with access.There are also rumors that not only Italy is interested in blocking,but also other countries of the European Union but how will it be on We'll see in practice.The second point, I don't think there will be a boom in AI-related projects since so far I don't know successful cases of crypto and AI in one project.

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It is expected some regulators could get scared about the impact of artificial intelligence within the society, specially those lawmakers concerned about the displacement of jobs and the privacy of their co-citizens.

However, even though those fears can be fair and justified, I believe that the big technology companies will use their lobbyists to push for loose regulations and controls for the algorithms they are developing. There is just too much money at stake with the implementation of Artificial intelligence, and when there is money in between, security and social concerns are left to one side to welcome the pay-check and the "legal bribery".

One example is what happened to the Train derailed in USA, less controls in security when the disaster happened.

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ChatGPT suspended? They must be nuts. Centralised or decentralised AI bans are terrifying. It raises questions about the government's power and AI's role in society. However, AI presents significant concerns about privacy and safety. These concerns must be addressed and AI businesses held accountable. It's unclear how this will affect decentralised AI projects. They may be a good alternative to centralised systems, but they have dangers and issues. We should be careful when discussing the controversial topic and communicate honestly about AI's future. We must collaborate to strike a balance between advancement and responsibility

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Italy banned ChatGPT, I've seen it in the news. The reasons are data leaks and no proper limitations for minors, but I don't think the concern is related to ChatGPT being centralized, belonging to a company. That being said, I like the idea of a decentralized AI, to be honest, and I don't think it's completely impossible. But Italy is just one country, and perhaps they would've banned a decentralized AI linguistic model as well. Moreover, it's not like ChatGPT is the only one out there. Maybe some will get more popular, others will get less popular and some may get banned, but that doesn't mean that centralized AI is about to be over. We don't have a decentralized Internet, and I don't think we'll have a shift to mainstream decentralized AI soon either.

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It's not the end of centralized AI, but it's beginning of more regulated, centralized, and censored AI. Like cryptocurrency, even though they are decentralized cryptocurrency still banned in some country and/or need regulation for trade some coin or use that coin

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It may only be temporary because ChatGPT will exist sooner or later and it seems that no one will be able to ban it because it is a matter of freedom to create something useful for many people. The ChatGPT or OpenAI project may be banned in some countries but that will not stop the development of OpenAI in other countries where the use of OpenAI or ChatGPT is permitted. And there may be a big rally in AI projects in the market, which could happen in the next altcoin season.

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Quote from: Z390 on April 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM

I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT?

You have answered the question yourself!
Italy is not banning AI in general, the action it took against ChatGPT was because of breaking European laws about privacy and the use of collected users' data without permission. That's all! If Microsoft adheres to the laws of the EU the ban will be lifted.
As for a decentralized AI, that's just a buzzword from the last bull run when we had hundreds of ICOs claiming this and that, a trend that has gained a new life now with all the hype and projects popping left and right but with no other target than to scam some gullible investors once more.

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Any government that is uneasy about AI has the right to ban it in their country; to some point, they really know what's best for their citizens.
Possibly, those who are AI lovers will definitely want to fight for it and defend it in any way that they can.

But left to myself, I don't have much interest in this AI, if there is such a thing, in as much as they are good in different areas and render some kinds of support that make things a little bit easier. I still don't buy the idea of making AI as popular as it's becoming now without analyzing the risk factor that it might cause if humans eventually lose control over them; that's for the other AIs, which are not just built for writing purposes.

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There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

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