Topic: The Bitcoin Forums usage is Exploding (Read 1477 times)

hmm well ok fine, then it seems there are future blockchain investment and kapital exchange plattforms, this forum is anyway extremly bitcoinfixed,

can you reccomend me some communities?

The way that it is currently going, and has been going for quite some time, destructive paranoia (weird wording). You must realize that the majority of legit people, and by this I mean:
1) Users with very deep understanding of Bitcoin.
2) Non scammers.
3) Non spammers.
4) Non account farmers.
5) Active traders and/or community builders.

have either left or severely reduced their involvement with this place due to the reasons that I've been voicing my strong disapproval of for quite some time now.

so what will we see will this forum grow and develop itself or will it end in a destructive paranoia?

There's a reason for which he is on the SMAS list; we have good bullshit detectors.

Not necessarily. Others have stepped down in the past, even though the roles weren't exactly identical (see sirius).

A nice example would be those absolutely brain damaged users who constantly post bounty applications in the wrong thread, but yeah let's all pretend these are "new users" and give them the benefit of the doubt. Give me a break.

Having this huge increase on bitcoin user,i think its a good news for us all that its being popularized worldwide.whats important is the management of spammers and the noobs.we must be aware of the over crowded forum in which lots of nonsense is talking around,.and this is the right time for the altcoins to bloom.lets help the cryptoworld to increase all the value of alts by advertising them more often giving them more sympathy than just always bitcoin were talking of

I think like you, there are so many new accounts appearing every day and the  spam appears in common, it makes the forums washy.

I go with whacking his head. Who will? There should be someone who have a great voice here to take the initiative doing so. Stepping down would be hard to do (if you know what I mean).

I have already suggested to add atleast 1 more admin making it 3. One for developing forum software and as a chief administrator (which is theymos), another for support (recovering hacked account and etc.) and lastly an admin who will be hands on implementing rules and the trouble of doing so (ban hammer, ban appeals and etc.)

I remembered there was this person (I can't remember who) who said that where will they get money to pay them. ("Will it be me?" , he added.) The forum's income is more than ten(s) of thousands every week. I think that's enough to just add one more person. You see, admins are needed, an active one. Base on what I see, mods can't do much.

No need to generalize Asians tho. I've known some Asians who have a top notch English both oral and written. Asians are not all about Chinese, Japanese and Koreans (no offense) there are those whose accent is not what you think but rather a neutral one. There are even native English speakers who aren't a master of their own language.

The point is that no need to be... Though influences around your country can affect your mastery in English.

By the word, "many" then yes there are a lot but I try to understand them. Having a sloppy english and doing a shit post at the same time, double problem and worst combination a shitposter can have (imo).

Ah yes, it's almost Christmas again.  Big-out-of-breath LOL

Lauda's posts are always interesting and written in good, plain English.  Not sloppily, as you see many of these Asian--no offense to Asians--shitposters plop onto the forum.  It's clear that they're silly and ignorant and only put in as much effort as they have to in order to get paid.

I read books in my spare time.  I am used to things being well-written, and it's absolutely jarring to read some of these shitpost comments.  The quality is horrendous, and this bovine excrement isn't something that people should be paid to do.

See the above example.  Your command of the English language, the language which you should be writing in here, is atrocious.

bitcoin? never bitcoin is pure tulpomania and poison for the infrastructure, cryptoeconomics is

regards

As if all of this are really not spam accounts. A single person can create a lot of accounts and spams the forum throughout every single day. That certain statistics can only be more reliable if we are getting each data for every single unique users or maybe their IP address(which is not recommended anyways).

Tho we can't deny the fact the we are really increasing in numbers it is just that certain data has a low probabilities.

I think they are simply understaffed. I have seen staff members react quickly to reports and all of my reported posts were always dealt with within hours. The main problem IMO is they have not enough privileges. More people should be able to restore accounts and more people should be put to work to actively remove spam instead of waiting for reports from other users. I know there's enough money to pay them and some people would surely work for tips, just to make thee experience better for all of us.

All your points were absolutely stupid and destroyed by other users, but yeah keep accusing others of posting "rubbish" while actually spamming with pretend-genuine-posts.

Coinbase users != bitcointalk users.

Bitcoin is far from mainstream.

Either someone whacks theymos on the head[1], and he realizes that his policies are absurdly stupid, or he steps down. Until one of these two happens, not much is going to change here.

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[1] Before some crybaby screams 'violence', this was obviously not meant literally.

I don't know. I am not the one in power so I don't really know what capabilities and the extent of their position but I can say that it should start from above, the admins (the one who has the greatest authority here).

Basically, do their job. What could have been done, what to do, what will do.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-02/bitcoin-exchange-added-100-000-users-in-a-day-as-price-exploded

obvious, users exploding everywhere... 100'000+ users in one day
bitcoin now is mainstream

And how do you suggest we do that, with a main admin that doesn't care? It's very easy to say 'we should focus on making the forum better', but with the person in charge being essentially useless that is near impossible.

making this forum a serious capital market, you have to reshape its design

i could help with that project

1. divide forum in anonymous and non anyonymous certified and identified users.
2. divide sub categories for the projects that apply here for finance,
3. develop project development also, many people are looking for global borderless teamups here.

4. certification teams with contracts can develop certification and evaluation checks to give their opinion about candiates, that apply for financing

better division between the categories of the economic sectors that are beeing financed, here, like gambling infrastructure, vaults etc.

i know this is not a perfect description
but this is how i would deal with the situation, because both will growth shity posters that are not able or willing or selfassure enough to post and apply in the certified identified legally observed section


that would involve some work but this is what the community looks for

i could now post 50 links to threats in the altcoin section
regards

I don’t know if you are indirectly referring to me when you talk about the “*ahem* entertainment value,” because I’ve defended in this section that many posts which people call low-value have entertainment value. But I’m not referring to the alts section at all. I think I’ve been on that section like 4 or 5 times in total since I joined bitcointalk. And I also think it is the biggest source of spam and scams.

Just read this line and something came to my mind. Why not introduce a feature like quick search before posting a new thread, it would greatly reduce the spam threads on the forum. Like for example if users want to search for 'transaction being stuck' instead of creating the thread right away, show them a small list of 'quick' result, it will be a good forum feature and could help identify spammers.

Isn't that good? What do you want? Accepting shitposters rather than those who are far more deserving?
Not always. Sometimes it could be a good comment than adding unnecessary details which, in the end, doesn't answer the question given in clarity.
Then still you suggested doing so despite of knowing this? So, you will limit this newbies who are making interesting posts (like you said) because of those who are not.
Think. What if there is a valid reason why they are inactive for awhile and decided to come back using his former account which had the reputation and known contact of him while doing business. So, you will just let him start from the scratch instead of giving him a chance to resume his business?
You know archive but you didn't know what archive is? If that's it then it is understandable.

Truth be told. It would be far more productive and nicer to dedicate the time in making the forum better today onwards. Past is there but future is coming which will be defined in the present time.

I agree with KingScorpio. It is better to see the potential of growth in users and try to canalize it.

Of course there are shitposters among new users, but if he has ideas, why not listen to what he has to say?

I see this a case of someone seeing the bottle half empty whereas someone else sees it half full.

Making the forum a capital market sounds very interesting to me. I don’t know how that would be possible and how it would have to be implemented but at least to listen to the idea and deciding about it after, not before, would be wise.

I think @KingScorpio you should address the owner directly.

I also think you are right in saying that situation has changed. This forum is not how it was 3 years ago and it probably never will be like that again. For me, it is better to adapt to changes rather than complaing about how cool the past was and how things have changed for worse.

Ah now I know why your posts takes about an hour to be done, you are carefully taking person's words from the contexts to write your rubbish opinion under it. Just you to know, I don't care about SMAS and your nativity, I have only meant that you set high standards to other users.
This is actually my opinion with which you have all rights to disagree, but:
1. "Yes" won't be a good comment.
2. I also saw several Newbies with really interesting posts, but most of users are starting the same topic threads, like "Bitcoin vs Gold" over and over again.
3. Basically unused accounts don't have any affect on the forum, but yes, my idea was to delete those accounts which inactive for months and years.
4. Believe me I know about "Archive" section on the forum, but if you didn't notice it is providing a big cleaning on the forum from last two months and a lot of old threads have been removed already, and it has nothing with removing of shit posts, but probably it has something with shit threads generally.

You're wrong on all points:
1. If something can be said in 1 word, it should be said in 1 word. That's efficient.
2. I've seen several very intelligent posters create very good new threads. They should be able to do that without spamming the forum for months.
3. You want satoshi's account to be gone?
4. A forum serves as an archive. Guess you've never searched the forum to find the solution you were looking for?

False generalization fallacy. I wouldn't expect something better from the likes of you.

Success? What's the benefit of this success other than enriching theymos? This forum has literally outweighed the good with the damage that it causes, and has become a negative piece in the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Speculative, and a rather insulting, claim.

What my native language is, is not of your concern.

You do not.

The rest of your posts consists of rehashed content.
Update: I've just checked the SMAS list and you're on it. Therefore, your post does not surprise me at all.

Don't be naive, all of us here to earn money. The forum won't be so successful if comments would not be paid. I bet you are here for the same reason, but not only cause of you love to argue and prove your truth. Yes your English is great, but it's not your native, so don't think that those people who speak English not so well are fools and don't deserve to be on the forum.
Those things that really should be done on the forum are:
1. Banning of short posters.
2. Allowing to start a new topic only after reaching a rank of Member.
3. Removing non active accounts (like few months without any activity).
4. Too old threads deleting (BTW it is happening this days on the forum, so something good has finely done to make this forum more healthy).

Better masters of English could easily avoid that by switching to "I concur", which is my favorite. However, those shitposters aren't smart enough for that.

At this point I don't even mind people who are posting to get paid given that: a) They have one account. b) They really put effort in their posts and this effort can be seen.[1]

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[1] There are outright baboons that claim they put a lot of effort and end up producing posts that are 2-3 lines long most of the time. Some posts that I've personally put effort in, back in some hefty block size debates, have taken me 30-60 minutes to write and have contained over 500 words.
OP is another example of someone just spreading BS around here. I was hoping he'd have some standard AD in his signature as then his intentions would be obvious.

thats not possible,

because the original bitcoin community has changed,

the IT coders and IT team sold their bitcoins, which is now owned by rich investors,

and the original at home miners have been replaced by industrial miners,

the growth of the market should be seen as an opportunity not as an ill.

but who am i to tell you that.

regards

so bad that the some of the forums staff is not capable willing or blind? to grow longterm strategic fruitition out of this, instead they sell, banners and complain about scam,

but we dont have to worry about that, if they wont do their jobs good there will be other forums, realizing that opportunity.

regards

Forgive me, but isn't this forum called Bitcoin talk. It isn't the Bitcoin bank, Ponzi plaza, accounts'r'us, Brexit uncovered or any of the other things mentioned in various posts. There are some special interest boards, and that is good, for example, alt coin discussions have a useful place on alt boards. I'd like to see Bitcoin talk return to informed discussions, technical issues, and help for members using Bitcoin. Unfortunately it is hard to find and follow these threads in the mass of flotsam and jetsam that keeps floating to the surface.

I'd love to see an instant automated ban for anyone who posts "I'm agree"^*. It's a very easy way to filter many (Indonesian) shitposters.

All of this comes down to the very lucrative business of posting here. In a way I'm guilty too: my current signature is the most lucrative one I've ever had. But at least I try not to post crap.

^* Please exclude this post

The irony in this statement is amazing.

There are maybe 200k active accounts, and less than 100k real people. Keep drinking the kool-aid.

The number of users is coming to 1 million already and I suppose withduch huge interest to crypto-currencies this number is going to be reached soon. The forum is really amazing place for all the community and I am happy to be a part of it. I don't thing we don't need to change anything about the forum, let it stays fee as it is.

i am not posting bullshit! i just show the great opportunities.

if you want to have less scam posting there are many possible solutions, why dont you introduce just an ID sign up or some kind ID certifications for accounts, exchanges do this all the time, people could ignore.

uncertified postings with their settings.

national financial centres also dont ignore approaches of people that dont speak their language.

or stock/comoditiy exchanges, people that dont know the custom rules.

Can you stop posting mini walls of text, as they are full of bullshit with no actual meaning nor truth? Thanks. You are obviously neither qualified nor experienced enough to asses, evaluate and discuss the situation that this forum is in.

i tell you something about realism,

when bitcoin was created it was basically an empty IT system, claims predictions and pretentions have made it valuable.

when you see things black they will be black for you, and you only see the risks not the opportunities.

being negative about numbers will not make this forum more successful, thats what the competitors enemies, want,

you should better look at the sunside, and market that one not the darkside.

otherwise thise forum will not be able to grow with such a mindset among its moderators / administrators,

now you can ignore me and keep your shity status quo, then you will indeed be overrun by scam and trash postings.

or you can developyourself out of it.

growth is accompanied by growth of both or all of them,

serious investors, serious developers, and serious scammers

focsing on the bad ones will not develop this forum

regards

At this point you have to be either very ignorant or an absolute fool to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Aside from 3rd world shitposter, not really.

Absolutely wrong and bamboozled view of the situation. My statements are at worst a realistic depiction of the current situation (I'm a realist). If you want to put your head in the sand and hope that everything is warm and fuzzy around here, then go ahead.

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This place has been a big clusterfuck for a very long time, and it most certainly has not been getting any better.

you are to pessimistic that is normal market activity, financial markets are this way,

you should rather see the opportunities.

if you standardise things, and make it better understandable, you could create an online financial hub

regards

There are a lot of newbie accounts but do we not give some of them the benefit of the doubt? Bitcoin is hitting mainstream news because of the ATH’s so new people will migrate here. Obviously you can spot the shill / shit posters from a mile off but I think there will, genuinely be a lot of new people here now.

There are two things that is exploding:
1) Hacked accounts and thus scams and all kinds of shady activity.
2) Shitposters from various 3rd world countries.

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Other than that, the forum is degenerating and is worse than most mainstream news outlets and their comment sections. The numbers that you've pointed out are actually bad.

maybe you should evolve this forum into becoming a decent financial capital market,

i mean many potential capitalists these days dont like the capital centres in (new york, frankfurt main, shanghai, london) they want something not related to race, or country something neutral just about capital and making money, and such a financial hub in an internet forum is quite a good alternative,

now this would have a huge longterm potential for enterpreneurship, and finance,

i myself dont like going to frankfurt and getting there a loan i prefer much more using the internet for this. much more neutral etc.

pm me if you are interested developing the potential of this forum,
additionally you could filter out better the spam and filter out scamm icos,

i would love to help you with that

use your potential make this forum a financial centre.

there is also demand here for systematic ico credibility research and certification

yesterday there were like 8 threads opened complaining about scam icos and about finding ways to filter out the scam icos or recognizing

regards

Exponentially exploding full of shit, and it gets worse day by day. Something needs to change.


Yeah, sick of seeing shitposting newbies trying to rank up as quick as they can then as soon as they hit 14 posts and their activity stopped they then create the "why is my activity stucked" threads. You can tell the accounts are created en mass to farm airdrops because 9/10 they have an eth address or whatever it is in their 'location' before they even make their first post.

Yeppers.  I have that section blocked--and for a very good reason--but I temporarily unblocked it just for the *ahem* entertainment value, and I was absolutely blown away by the volume of shitposts there, even after mprep posted the rule about no garbage "thanks", "joined airdrop", etc. posts.  I reported a whole bunch of them, because I was bored and had nothing better to do.  So yeah, that might account for a lot of them.  

When I joined bitcointalk in 2015, I don't remember there being any of those airdrops.  That seems to be a somewhat recent development, and one in which a lot of 3rd world country shitposters participate.  And, on top of that, I very strongly suspect people are using a ton of alt accounts and that some of those accounts are created for the sole purpose of bumping the airdrop threads.  That whole section is just a mess, and I would hate to have mprep's job of moderating it.

Then some of it I think is just people becoming interested in bitcoin because of its crazy-ass rise to $7000.  I'm sure that accounts for some of this, but I think it's mostly that damn altcoin token section.

I'm a newb to the forum  .

I would say the growth is pretty sweet.

Just saw an interview with the Goldman CEO talking about Bitcoin.

Along with a couple billionaires recommending it

if there are newbies today, there were newbies yesterday as well, the fact is that the use of forum has increased as showed in pics.

Very much agreed. All this ICO crazy is taking over the forum and is promoting/ creating massive amounts of spam.

i think all this growth is because shitdrops, massive spam in last two months most of them are bran new or newbie accounts with the same fucking post 'joined....'.

now you have to research the amount of new post that are made each month more and you have obviously in this forum an exponential development





for me this looks like a very huge growth
regards

20% more usage in September 40% more usage in october,

the worlds financial centre is moving towards this bitcoin forums  

thats how it looks i saw media reporters arround here

that means this forum needs to look more like a financial centre

more neutral more stylisch and jes not so bitcoin fixed.

here a dektop picture i made