Topic: The BM @Fox Campaigns stole the escrowed bounty funds. (Read 741 times)

He hasn't been online in almost 2 weeks so I imagine he has tossed the Fox account in the can and now operates under a new name. Might be a good idea for someone to pay attention to addresses if he has posted them and see if they pop up on a new account who is offering manager services.

So first thing first, I would go with the assumption that the below conversation is genuine, do let us know if you think it's fake.



So you did admit your mistake, you gambled with escrow funds, admitted that it was a mistake and that you would pay when the market recovers, but then when shit hit the fan, you decided you should pay yourself and screw everyone else, so you are not just a scammer, you are an entitled scammer.

In a perfect world, since you were the escrow, you were supposed to pay the remaining $6900, in a not-so-perfect world, you should have paid the $1100 to the participants, obviously, in a shity world -- you would do what you did, take your "fees" and an extra $100 on top of that.

The title got me curious: how can a bounty manager steal escrowed funds?
Fox Campaigns is not an "escrow", it was a Newbie at the time. Anyone trusting a Newbie as "escrow" doesn't understand what an escrow is for. It should at least be someone you can trust.

It shows that bounty spammers don't care at all. Spamming Twitter, spamming Telegram, spamming Youtube and spamming no doubt AI-generated "articles" everywhere else. It's amazing this business model has been active since 2017!

Don't confuse the number of people involved with the number of accounts they use

I don't know what's worse: a Newbie spam bounty "campaign manager" who thinks that's worth $1000, or that you think your incompetence to secure payment gives you the reason not to pay the spamming participants while you do pay yourself.

As a bounty manager with a rather [IMO, since I don't have a knowledge of the ongoing rate of a campaign manager, let alone bounty manager for shi...uhh...shiome project] stellar rate, one fifth of the bounty budget, you seemed to be rather mixed up between "promised" and have things actually fulfilled.

You assure your community that you've hold 50% of the budget, twice, [at least, since I didn't dig any further, and perhaps there are other deleted messages], assure them that the payment's secured, and this is based on words of the dev instead of an actual things? You assure your group of something while what actually happened is other thing? What does such action called, again?


I don't know, that's why I'm asking out of pure curiosity. What do you think about it? Is it quite normal for a bounty manager to be paid one-fifth of the total fund allocated for a bounty?


Uhh... ironically, well, two things.

One, technically, you do not pay the hunters with any coin. That's the foundation of this topic. Two, umm, you do aware that we have an evidence, in form of screenshots and video recording, of you [or your "team", Riad, of which "partner" would actually fits better, since you-re a two-manned team] admitting that you tried to "handle" the situation by trading the "project coin" you got to another one, where you can actually pay them with what you have in hand?

Oh, last thing, at times, the best defense is indeed an offense, but offense [on this case and many other cases on this board and scam accusation boards] came in form of providing evidences as counter-accusation, to make an evidence-backed rebuttal to invalidate other side's claims, not being... smug and couldn't-care-less or whatever impression you tried to cast right now.

You say you don't care yet you keep responding. It's obvious you are mad that your account is now tagged, but who's fault is that? You are the 1 who decided to be a manager( probably thinking it would make you rich), but what you are seeing is it is a fucking headache job that pays shit in the long run. You still have to attempt to do the job correctly if you are going to do it.

I have no idea your agreements with your clients, nor do I care, but if you plan to continue this line of work try to do a better job of securing payments for your hunters. That's all anyone is really saying here. Had you come in here and explained without the snarky attitude, things would have went a different way I think. Instead you came in acting like an entitled prick and should have calmed down and thought before responding to users. Grow up is my advice, not that you care.

Who told you I need help bro? I'm saying again, am not writing this to earn your trust, but I'm saying the truth. Keep your green trusts and ranks bro

You'll die before your time! Just remain the king here, do not try things from the outside that you can't handle.

For starters, breaking the rules with multiple posts in a row doesn't help your case.


Pass me your dealer's phone number. That shit he sells you must be awesome.

$1000 for the whole campaign (5 weeks) who said for a week bruh? If you don't charge that then it's not my problem, that's your decision.

Why should we show you our chats with clients?

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Both maximus and partyland scammed us buddy! We even announced it in our group...

Maximus;
https://prnt.sc/jIVVYhizoSkB

Partyland;
https://prnt.sc/i59dMaS2qJJ1

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Fuck you bro! I am not here so I can get a green trust or getting a new campaign, I am here to write what is the truth!

First, you and the OP who are you to chat with my team (Riad) and ask him about the bounty?

Second, I joined the crypto world since 2017 mf! This is not the only place where I can get client or generate income. Keep your fucking ranks and trusts, they worth nothing to me! You are kings here but outside of this forum you're just shit!

Am not forcing you to agree with me, but we were promised half of the budget will be sent to us just after starting the bounty but we never received, and that's why we said it was half escrowed.

Also, is there a fixed fee for bounty managers?

And the last thing, we do not pay hunters with a shit coin of our choice! Be respectful buddy, we pay hunters with the project coins.

Who the hell is Albon?

We got the deal directly from the project owner and we agree payment in SSC, and we never received $1100 before, after the bounty was over and few days passed then he sent it.

You gave the evidence yourself and then you were also caught in lie by holydarkness. You are the type of manager who takes any project that contacts you and worry about your pocket before anyone else.

I'm curious to read the negotiations for the project. Where you are talking money for you and your team and where you are talking about money for the participants. $1000 a week as well?? I don't even charge that amount!!

Ahh well, can of worm and all. This is a very bad mistake indeed, because you make me take a peek into what happened.

First, payment not escrowed. Yes, it's not stated on the bounty thread and on you also confirm that it's not escrowed on your bounty group. But...



So it's been a lie, then? From the beginning of the campaign? The half amount of the reward already being escrowed? Why? You can have it stopped right there and then by your first week... of which, if I understand correctly, was actually the second or third ongoing week, but re-set into first week because the campaign was restarted due to some issue, and the previous week was voided.

Second, your fee, 1,000 USD for a 5 week 8,000 USD budget project? Pure curiosity, this is the ongoing rate for a bounty manager?

Third, why can't you distribute 100 USD to 300 participants? Because you're worried that they'll get cents? It happened before, I mean, this spreadsheet shows that you paid participants in cents,



And not to mention your unilateral decision to trade the amount you received and was supposed to be paid to users with a shit coin of your choosing, of which further decrease the already limited amount you had.

A mistake indeed.

The spreadsheet for the Maximus signature bounty says that I am owed 48.96 USDT worth of tokens.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bRu0VBLRGSZO8Nsa9S78_n3mysPVnZForbVVBIPy2uo/

The address I used for the campaign was 0x079bFF0b1AA5b70F6f4e41C2544EBC76BdE29bd1.
https://ninjastic.space/post/60957378

This address has never received any MXZ or USDT payment.
https://bscscan.com/address/0x079bff0b1aa5b70f6f4e41c2544ebc76bde29bd1#tokentxns

The campaigns you have mentioned are for the most obscure tokens ever, which nobody has ever heard of. The ones that are even listed on CoinMarketCap you have to navigate through more than 50 pages before you find them and they have gone down nearly 100% in value. It seems only scam projects are willing to work with you.

You say that you are paying participants but I have only seen one scam accusation after another here on Bitcointalk and Telegram. Here is another thread where you were previously accused of scamming by somebody whose project also turned out to be a scam.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alertfox-bounty-is-scam-warning-for-hunters-and-token-owners-5403089

Yes, that's correct. You can check [this] and [this], and as for the escrowed funds with him, you can see [this]. I honestly forgot about this issue a long time ago. Thank you for mentioning my account. It's clear that this scammer BM has been thinking for more than a month about writing these lies, which I have already addressed and exposed in my archived links and in my conversation with him, which I have shared [here].

Here is a screenshot in case he hasn’t time to check the two-minute-long recorded conversation video. > Talkimg

Perhaps the escrowed funds he stole from innocent hunters have run out after this period, and he wants to continue his activities with Green Trust, hoping to fill his pockets with more money that he will get out of thin air... LOL.

Even assuming what you say is true you'd have to be pretty dumb to think that what you say here is going to make us think you're not a fucking scammer.

I don't know what this is about now anyway. Surely he had not been coming to the forum for a while and coming now planning to manage some bounties has seen the reputation.

You're contradicting yourself.


Then why did you get the 1100 USDT upfront?

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According to albon you made an agreement with developer on Telegram to pay the bounty in USDT.  I have not seen those messages, but I suspect others have and can provide proof.

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If the 1100 USDT wasn't bounty escrow and it wasn't intended to pay for your bounty fee, what the hell was it for?  This makes me think that albon's reporting is accurate; an agreement was made to pay in USDT, and you're lying.

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Well, that may be.  It seems like you took it upon yourself to pay yourself, while leaving the bounty hunters out to dry.

Please tell us how we scammed you! If possible attach a proof.

We have managed a lot of bounty campaigns that have paid participants. Some of them are BikPot, Ashib, Spume, DafriBank, PlayTreks, PayRue, XcelPay, Hovr, Pawsome, Qidex, Qie, Brice, all of these paid participants! Why are you lying bro?

Show your evidence that we scammed you.

This is a very bad mistake my brother!

1. Shine scan bounty campaign was not escrowed.
2. We agreed payment in SSC token and not USDT.
3. After the bounty was over, the project owner said they can't pay in token anymore, so they wanted to pay in USDT but they paid only $1100 and not $8000. Our bounty management fee is $1000, and Shine scan never paid our fee, so we used the amount received as our fee! And we can't distribute $100 USDT to more than 300 participants.
4. UNTIL NOW, still Shine scan never paid the remained amount!

I wonder why you gave us a red flag? The project owner he is the one who never paid the bounty pool as we agreed, he paid only $1100 and our fee is $1000, so it's like he paid only $100. We even allowed our participants to ask directly in the SSC community about the reward pool.

This is a mistake, we are not scam.

Oh!

That is not good Mr @Riad_FoxTeam. I did not know that this guy and Foxcampaigns are the same people on the forum. I admit that I and Riad worked on a cryptocurrency project in the same team where he was working for a long time and I worked for two months maybe. But then the project owner stopped responding and did not pay the salaries. So, I left their project but I remember that sometimes I had a chat with him on Discord.

I just came to know that Riad FoxTeam is Fox Campaigns on the forum. Glad to know that I did not make any transactions with this guy during those two months. Flag supported.

I was scammed by them when I was low ranking and still participating in bounties. I hadn't been active in the forum in a while and joined whatever was available. I don’t think they’ve ever paid out for any campaign they managed. Every token they’ve ever represented looks shady as hell and dies in a few months.

I won't derail this thread any further with comments on the state of bounties except to say that I had thought they were long dead, seeing as the ICO boom went bust years ago--but I've had signatures and avatars on ignore for as long as I can remember, so I haven't exactly been noticing who's been advertising what.  Looking at this Shinescan bounty, I'm actually glad it doesn't incentivize its participants to make posts on the forum as so many other bounties have done.

They can spam Youtube, telegram, and Twitter until the servers melt down for all I care, as long as they don't have to drop endless shitposts on bitcointalk.  Hopefully that's the structure of whatever bounties remain.

Not that it really matters much since this a throw away account, but I would encourage one of the bounty participants to submit a type 2 flag.

Obviously the copper membership fee is marginal compared to what he scammed, so it's not likely to mean much in the long run.


It's astounding that in this day and age the shitcoin bounties are still that popular.  I don't venture into those parts of the forum either, and I too was surprised by the number of participants.  I guess there will always be newbies with get-rich-quick dreams, and also scammers to take advantage of them.

Wow, just look at all those applicants with tons of posts and no merits whatsoever.  I'd been wondering if bounties were still a thing here (and yet was too lazy to check if the section for them still existed), so I guess that answers my question.  


Normally I'd say it's a waste of time creating a flag or even tagging a throwaway account, but in this case I agree with you.  Who knows if this one would pop up again maybe a year from now--and if it did and there wasn't a warning on it, well, that's an invitation for further shenanigans.  Feels like late 2017, doesn't it?

Edit: Tagged and flagged.  Is this guy trying to somehow get a free ride off of Foxpup's reputation by any chance?  I don't like the fox theme in his username or the fox icons he uses, and it seems suspicious.

This is really ironic as there are many reputable BMs and trustworthy escrow service providers here.

I agree with lovesmayfamilis and YOSHIE regarding what they said about the owners of these companies. They may not have any background about the forum, the ranking system, and the trust, and their intention might be to employ these bounty managers because they accept any wages or projects, whether they are Rugs or fake projects. Ultimately, the bounty hunters are the victims, along with the investors who this harmful marketing might deceive. In addition, even if this BM is distributed to the participants, I strongly believe that he will manipulate the spreadsheets and hunters' stakes, introducing multiple accounts to cheat in the campaigns.

This is a good idea. Even if these affected bounty hunters leave the group and refrain from working on future bounties he manage, the group owner will be left alone with the fake accounts that joined the group.

Isn't the meaning for escrow is a reputable person who have solid financial background and trustworthy in a community? This user Fox Campaigns is a brand new copper member, I do not see he have any reputation at all. How can it be as escrow?

This user in question should have already received payment it run the campaign before starting the thread, the participants will not have been able to prevent this, as someone with dubious intention would keep the payment regardless. I'm not buying the trading story, looks like a ploy to buy some time and clean up their tracks to make a proper exit.

The group can be reported to telegram. If enough people report it, it should get taken down

@Fox Campaigns manager, dreamed too high, by using campaign funds to spin in trading, it was a fatal mistake for him, he hoped that the funds he used could double, Unfortunately for him he lost a number of funds that should have been distributed to participants, this will add to the list of greedy and lying campaigns.

The words 'immediately' are a long process, I'm sure the @Fox manager will run away from this problem and the Shinescan Coin campaign bears the risk of @Fox's actions. That's a bad situation for participants. The funds should already be there and waiting to be distributed, In fact, it is exploited by irresponsible individuals.

That's the company's mistake, they sometimes look for managers who are cheap and poor paid, many projects don't want to employ trusted and responsible managers because the pay is high, The choice of a cheap manager is a disaster for campaign participants, a mistake that is often made by many projects, what would it be like to say that the rice has turned into porridge.

The way I see it we should do what is right regardless that account is a throwaway one or not, but I already see you support the flag.


I think you are right on this. It will probably happen again, but that does not mean that we should stop doing what we should.

A neg tag is appropriate so that person isn't hired again, but you're right it won't matter to him as he will just make a new account and do the same thing to some unsuspecting company.

I wish bounty hunters would get smart and not join certain managers campaigns, but unfortunately bounties require little effort and people take the risk.

A manager with a newbie account, even a Copper Member, will he value his account? What will adding a flag or a negative trust give him? A person with dirty intentions to benefit from money that does not belong to him is already falling flat on his face. I will even say more that the one who trusted him with these unfortunate 1100 USDT simply threw money down the drain because they did not look closely at people with a good reputation when hiring them as a manager; that is, they also wanted to save money. Well, they got what they deserved. I'm sure that in the case of the growth of those coins that were allegedly bought with the deposited money, the bounty hunters would not have received anything since the fraudulent manager is too greedy.
But no matter what we write here, bounty hunters repeat their mistakes regularly, trusting it is not clear who to lead the bounty; they are not very picky and are ready to "work" for pennies that in the end they will also not see. History is as old as the world; life teaches these people nothing.

Yes. Through old messages in the FOX Campaigns group, he received USDT from the project team because the project's currency was facing liquidity issues, and the price of $SSC was very low at that time. So, the BM reached an agreement with the project team to pay the hunters in USDT. It is worth noting that they changed the old project links and everything to Shine Chain [CMC] on Blockchain V2.

Exactly, he should not have acted on his own with the participants' funds as they are certainly not responsible for his loss. Frankly, I do not believe this story, and I am convinced that he stole the money. He launched another airdrop and a new bounty campaign afterward, and if his intention was to compensate the participants, he would have paid them from the fees he received for promoting these new projects.

I'm a bit confused. Looking at the bounty thread, I think the payment will be in SSC and not USDT? But the BM received USDT and unilaterally trade it for aevo tokens [whatever that is] and lost significant value of the escrowed fund? What's the price of SSC right now? I assume they, the SSC token, have dropped very significantly and the BM can still "fulfill" their obligation to pay SSC to their participants?

That crooked-but-fulfilled obligation aside, BM's decision to take their own decision to trade the fund is definitely warrant a big question of their competence, and I am supporting the flag just for this reason because they're clearly can't be trusted and people will be at risk of losing fund if they interact with them in any form.

But... the project itself is also questionable [though it's a bit moot, given they've rug pulled, so it's kinda proven that they're indeed just another trash project] because they send USDT instead of SSC, while the "contract" said the bounty participants will be paid with SSC. I am correct this far?

Then I assume they expect the BM to buy SSC himself, thus create a sudden surge, of which I assume they'll use the opportunity to dump their reserved token before bounty participants can dump theirs.

What happened:: I have received numerous complaints about Fox Campaigns, the bounty manager who managed the 5-week Shinescan Coin bounty. The USDT, which this bounty manager escrowed from the project team, was supposed to be distributed to the participants one/two weeks after the campaign ended, which was after October 14th.

I have already contacted this bounty manager on Telegram, whose username is @Riad_FoxTeam, and he is the leader of the group @foxcampaigns. He informed me that he lost the total amount of 1100 USDT during trading. According to him, he bought Aevo tokens at $3 each, and the token lost 80% of its value, leading to the loss of the funds that were supposed to be distributed to the bounty hunters. I asked him why he did this, as he was supposed to distribute the USDT to the participants without risking it in trading. He said that he and his friend believed they could double the amount. He told me that he would recover the lost amount when the bull run approached soon. I told him that it’s not the participants’ fault to bear the consequences of his recklessness and control over their funds, but he has now stopped responding. I will include the BM chat and the TX hash below.

Bounty Manager Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fox-campaigns-3503908  | FLAG

Reference Link: [🦊BOUNTY🦊] Shinescan Coin - $8,000 in SSC Coins

Amount Scammed: 1100 USDT [This is what was mentioned in his groups HERE + HERE + HERE ^{(It is worth noting that the project he promoted seems to have closed all its accounts, and even their official website is no longer operational, so I cannot now contact the project team to confirm if he received only this amount or if they sent him the full amount).}

Proof of Payment:
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xe2fd1dcac61a55cca2263761fd83b3262b657f4af2ea4411e3243c72cec8f287




PM/Chat Logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QWSeLkNXONlhhLzL_9xww6StTHvN5Uy9/view?usp=sharing

Additional information: I don’t believe he can recover the escrowed funds lost during trading due to his ignorance. Months have passed, and when participants asked him about the distribution date, he said 'soon.' He has also restricted posting in his official Telegram group to prevent participants from claiming their rights.