Topic: The Broken Promise For The Hunters (Read 766 times)

We can really do nothing but to be more patient everytime we joined bounty campaigns that only end up as failure. Of course the developer itself and the team behind the project surely aims for success but unfortunately, the project itself failed. So as a bounty hunter, there is no room for regrets and frustrations because of efforts not being paid. Instead, move on and go find another one. Who knows this time might be very profitable for you.

I've experienced it in several projects, and until now there are still some projects that haven't paid me yet, from that you have to always research the project you want to participate in, because projects that are already listed on the stock exchange, they don't necessarily pay bounty hunters, because I experienced it myself

be a smart bounty participant in order to avoid the problems you say, such as the project not paying bounty participants or stalling for time as if bounty hunters are considered by them as parasites.
We have the option to work on the bounty so use research before entering into it, try to follow the bounty held by the best manager at the forum or the bounty has been registered at the market even though the prizes are small but to my knowledge, at least we are paid for our work as bounty hunters.

It is fine as long as the project owner pays the bounty hunters and never swap the token after the payment is done.  What is not fine is the project owner tends to delay the payment and at the end never pay at all, while others distribute the payment then afterwards create a new token and require the bounty hunters to do KYC in order to swap their token which is very unfair to the point of being scammy.

This is one of the risk, sometimes it even take months to promote the project, and what bounty hunters get? Nothing, because the project failed and the effort will just be wasted.

Now there is a new excuse in the market which effects only bounty distribution and that is 'ethereum transaction fee' is high. Strangely it only matters when they have to distribute the bounty rewards and it is just another lame excuse in my opinion because they can bundle up transactions to reduce transaction costs and there are many services available for this even if the team cannot do it themselve so all these are lame excuses.

It is hard to find a project that will agree to transfer bounty reward before bounty started/ended. So far I have seen only two managers who escrow bounty rewards (if we talk about bounty with reward payment in projects altcoins). They are julerz12 and bounty detective. First one did not manage campaigns for a long time, second - "it is complicated" like facebook says.

Escrowing reward is not always a solution. I remember when manager held rewards, but waited eth from project for distribution. Or situation with Bounty Detective - they hold reward, but project did not raise enough funds and decided not to continue development.

Some projects are still need to create the campaign as promotional purpose and did you see that before there were bunch of legit bounties launched on this forum? I can mention some like ludena, injective protocol, hex, stobox and many more. that's enough to prove it.

therefore we as bounty hunters must research the project before joining the bounty program, there are even projects that are successful in token sale but they haven't paid hunters until now like (envion, tokenpay, etc)
therefore just enjoy as a bounty hunter, don't expect much nore on the projects you are promoting.
if they later pay the hunter's it is a fortune.

The bounty hunter needs to do some research on his own, to find out whether the project is capable of achieving the soft-cap or not. Sometimes, the projects keep soft-cap at unviably high levels, and as a result of this the project fails to get investment. The bounty hunters suffer in the end, as no one is going to reimburse all the hard work they put in to promoting the project.

In fact, there are several ways to avoid such a thing, namely by finding a bounty that has escrow. however, a trusted escrow will distribute their existing tokens according to a predetermined schedule. unfortunately, sometimes a project that uses escrow doesn't have that many allocations. well, it is an option. besides, this is all one of the risks of becoming a bounty hunter.

i don't think so, that was the reason why projects were successful ICOs but now, a lot of good projects who can raise millions of dollars don't need to make a bounty campaign, only some few projects that are kinda successful do bounties, others just don't need it.

I have to say you are right. I am agree with you.

It is sad that there is nothing that a bounty hunter could do after the bounty is over,
They would just wait for their rewards that is the downside of what they choose and that is exactly why I don't want to join bounties anymore except if a bounty would pay with crypto that already have a value like BTC or ETH.
Most of the bounties now are just scam so it is really hard for bounty hunters to earn from it anymore.

Having or finding a good project nowadays that are really payable and true with their promises are very hard to find because there are projects that are really deceiving which can make you believe to be legitimate at first glance and observation but once the project ended, it all came into realization to be a scam one and all your efforts and time exerted all came out to be useless for you have been fooled by the team developer itself. This is not already a new issue for after the bull run that happened way back 2017 where projects are very rich and payable, projects turn out to have certain issues of not being payable and gets to be a scam which is a very disappointing part for the bounty hunters.

Bounty hunters will come and go, they'll be here if the demand is good and they'll leave if not, just like the current situation, bounty hunting is not anymore a profitable kind of job, but in the past it was, some even made a fortune of it. Therefore, I suggest to wait for the right timing, if bounty hunters were hurt by the promises of the team project's we have to consider also the damage the investors will have to take. ||

They lose money, us, effort only.

Thing might take a different turn for bounties very soon, years ago when bounties was still a big deal it was ICO days where almost all new projects are raising funds easily and also altcoin season in 2018 was a big boost for all new projects even the shitcoins too, now same thing might happen again

I had the same thing happened to me so many times in a row right now. I have even faced with a project who promised that they will pay and they PAID, great so far right? Like that is what should suppose to happen? Then they just changed their project to a new token, instead of the token they gave you for free (which is not free, you worked for it) they are now using some other token and the token you have received will worth absolutely nothing, will not be listed anywhere and will worth zero.

People are that evil, they just promote it and they promise you payment and they just pay you a token that worths nothing and claim that they said you will be paid in that token and you were paid in that token and just shift the blame on you somehow. I do not understand how people trust these type of campaigns but they get a lot of money as well from funding somehow.

There is nothing that bounty hunters can do It depends on the manager for the bounty campaign. If the manager introduces the bounty properly then there is no need to make a broken promise for the hunters later. These are declining day by day as the projects have no reputation. Before participating in this bounty campaign you need to research how trustworthy the manager's teams are and participate. There is a risk on the exchange sites when it comes to BTC payments.

It seems that attention to bounty hunters does not make every problem that occurs a priority. every project that is vague and irresponsible, even though it is very clear that there is a contribution by bounty hunters there. It must also be taken into account because it takes up a lot of time from his routine work, but there is no reward at all and someone cares about the bounty hunter who has been lied to.


what you are saying is the right thing, many bounty hunters only use instinct or only see BM holding the project, rarely and maybe no one has to read the white paper or description that does come with the project. because bounty hunters only want to succeed in a project so they can get what they want.

even if there are details like you said, again it also does not guarantee because there are no laws or sanctions for projects that lie to bounty hunters, making bounty hunters have no power at all other than surrender to the situation. Nor does it guarantee that everything that is already good can produce good results because if the intention is not to want to pay, then he can do it, eventually returning to fate.

A new project needs funds to continue its development but sometimes it didn't even manage to reach the soft cap. Because of these all they don't want to pay even they finally listed on any exchange. Those small marketcap projects fear about market price dump after the rewards distribution of bounty hunters. All these happens many times and escrow is the best solution to these.

true, I experienced it following a long duration project and was not paid at all my time was wasted in vain and I was very disappointed with the incident.

That's why we said that the reward in bounty campaign is random. No one will able to predict it. If the token already traded on exchange site and it has big volume and people will be very easy to determine that.
We have learned a lot from so many scam bounty. The hunters were using their brain will always try to do deep research.
I never blindly joining in any campaign. It's not all of the hunters were the same.

You are right that we are in a scam circle. We need money that why we are ready to work. If someone pay us for doing something for free then we are ready to work for anything. The scammer get chance and they take this chance to fool us and trying to get some income through us. We can't stop it. Because if we will be stop working there has two practical problem 1 is the legit project can't not get that much support for less marketing and second we will miss those project. That is why we are working by just only hope and that is it should be gives us our work paid of . i suggest don't stop to work maybe a project gives you that much earning.

I believe you are right. Crypto project administrators must keep their word and adhere to their conditions, which means paying the promised funds to the participants of bounty companies. However, as you noted, many crypto projects either turned out to be a scam or simply refuse to pay, while coming up with excuses. This is called scam and must be publicized. On the other hand, if crypto projects are afraid that the price of their crypto asset will decrease due to payment to bounty participants, then they should pay not in a token, but for example in USDT or ETH. It is very bad that this trend continues and the admins of crypto projects continue not to fulfill their obligations to pay bounty participants. Unfortunately, I believe that this slows down the development of the crypto market and causes a lot of mistrust on the part of new potential users.

That is the truth, as bounty hunters we can do nothing but hope, wait and be paid. but in reality that's not what they promised or what we expected. On the one hand, Investors currently tend to lose confidence in ICOs again.

You are of course right, but everyone knows these possibilities. We want everyone to be rewarded for their labor.
These problems will decrease when the foundations of the cryptocurrency world are more solid 

This is the risk of participating in bounties. You're not certain if you'll get paid after your effort and hardwork to promote the project for months. Its unfair for bounty hunters but who is to blame here?

Thats why we need to do an extensive research before participating in any project no matter how promising it is or regardless who will manage the bounty. Learn from the past experience.

There's still a hidden gem in bounties, we just need to dig deeper.

What are you saying? Marketing strategy stands on its own and awareness is another, this is where bounty campaigns comes in, as big as bitcoin is today, nakamoto satoshi was on here to create some awareness too even if there was no campaign at the time, every new projects need Bitcointalk forum, it's very important, I as a investor will never invest on any project that has no ANN on this forum

We do not have a choice if projects are not paying or the team are scamming the bounty hunters or even its investors too. Anyway, it is not our dignity and integrity that had been ruined by them not taking their promises. Yes, sometimes it is good to think like that to avoid getting worries from them not paying the bounty hunters. I guess you are new and had expecting something so good with bounty hunting as what others had told you? Well, we learn of course so do not worry if you are not getting paid.  What important is that you learn.

You need to compare success rate for the 2017 ICOs with those from 2020. Currently the success rate for new projects is around 4%. That means that only one out of 25 projects will be successful. And for the bounty hunters, this means that they need to participate in 25 campaigns on average, so that they could get good rewards from just one project. Now it is up to the bounty hunters to decide whether they want to take this risk or not.

Bounty hunters can only hope to get the best out of the projects they promotes but that's not on them, it depends on the type of teams that are managing the projects, some teams are nice and some don't care at all, bounties is all about how good the projects are and how good the teams are too

Only bounty campaigns in 2017 have kept their promises to bounty hunters, but since the price of Bitcoin dumped in 2018, the projects team
started having difficulty finding investors. And this is where the first time many bounty campaigns began to break promises regarding the rewards
that will be given to bounty hunters. Many project teams always postpone the distribution schedule of the rewards that will be given to bounty hunters,
therefore now I prefer to take part in the gambling campaign, who do pay direct bounty hunters every week with Bitcoin payments.

If this Post created in 2018 or early 2019 ,i will consider having Sympathy but we are 2020 now mate ,when ICO and Bounty hunting are almost done .

it's been all over the Forum about this same Issue yet Hunters are participating in which Giving Those Scammers a chance to promote their Fake projects .

I'm now Blaming Hunters because they are just want to have Job and earn ,But after everything that happens ,People must understand that This is very risky and if you Join Expect that 80% you'll receive nothing or Nonvalue tokens.

If Bounty hunters will not participate in those Projects Advertising ,then Lessen the victim they may have and eventually ,will stop as they have no tools in promotion ,the sad part is Hunters are being Used for their Bad intentions.

Mate, I think we have enough in that kind of situation, Bounty Hunters are just expendables like slaves, thats what they treat us, on some occasion they call us beggars, some are not even paid like the infamous "DigitalBits Bounty campaign", they dont paid its promoters and the worst they have our KYC data they have a "Scam accusation thread" but not getting much support from the higher ranks now DigitalBits is proudly waving their flag and mocking us because they created a new norm by not paying its early promoters.

It happens with many of the bounty hunters. They wait for a long to receive the reward and most of the time that time does not come and that frustrates the bounty hunters. Many projects keep dodging the hunters by saying we are doing this and that update just wait for some more time but nothing happens in the end. Good projects do not delay and do not make any excuse. They pay on time.

Most times I see it as, a project which can stoop too low to scam bounty hunters will at one point scam the investors by abandoning the project. What baffles me is that, these projects will launch and promise their investors a lot of things, to bounty hunters they will always write, "distribution is after token sale" but that hardly happens, because what follows after token sale is series of excuses and nothing more. Not only that, most times one will see that, the price will keep dropping which brings about the question of, if bounty hunters weren't paid, who is dumping the price of the token? Even to make it worst, once token sale is successful, the team will not pay bounty hunters, they will stop communicating with the community as they used to neither will they showcase what they are working on so far, if at all there is any.
On the other hand, a good project have no business delaying the payment of bounty hunters this is because, the rather do it early to allow those who want to sell to do so after which they watch the price increase since the team are already developing on their project; however only very few projects are doing this. Therefore, in essence, a good project will always pay and bad one won't because the team needs all the money they can get.

Many projects failed and few still keeps their promises, that's all that matters, they only way to stop trying is if no new projects are paying bounty hunters again and we haven't come to that yet, this year many new projects still paid fair amount of $ to bounty hunters, don't quit and also learn to digest disappointments

Given the fact that bounty hunters if not scammed by the bounty devs and managers, they have given a useless coin reward. Usually, hunters are not looking for the right and potential projects but looking for the income even rewards or payment costs small.

Being a wise bounty hunter needs to be vigilant in choosing which project to be join in. Aside from choosing the good manager, of course the good project goal and product should be taken consideration if it will last long in crypto market.

Actually the bounty hunter can do something, namely contacting the manager to immediately contact the team but if the manager also doesn't respond then you can create a thread on "Reputation" by providing details there, yes this does not help but at least tell people if this project is not healthy

This is why joining a bitcoin-paying campaign, whether low paying, is still better than most of these token-paying campaigns. At least, if you are in btc-paying campaign, you know you'll get paid, whereas, most of these token campaigns have no assurance that they will ever credit your share or even hit in exchanges. This is really the risk a bounty hunter is subjected to. If he is willing to wait and handle the risk, then he can go with these bounty campaigns, otherwise, stick to the campaigns that are for sure will pay the promoters. Remember to check also the reputation of the bounty manager.

When I was active in bounty campaign I have a lot of campaigns that took months before they send my stake and majority of them ended up as shitcoin this is the harsh reality of doing bounty, many bounty hunters are doing a lot of bounty on as many projects as they can, hoping that one or two of these projects will end up good in the market and they will be compensated for all their hard works.

The same thing happened so many times. The problem is if the hunters can't get the right bounty.
So many people are always making awareness for hunters. Some people are also accusing some projects being not transparent. There were so many developers wanna get the free promotion only.
They were arguing various reason to not distribute the reward,

in this position, I may have already moved on from the project and looking for a higher quality project. however, such a promise has shown the team's unprofessionalism. however, there could be a reason behind it, and you can be patient. pushing them to pay is something that has to be done, but to expect a lot of it I don't think it's the right decision. besides, if you have any objections, you can still create a scam thread for the project.

The problems are the hunters blindly thinking about when they were joining in the more project and that will increase their chance to be rewarded by the campaigns. In so many old threads we have discussed about this too.
There are so many ignorance hunters who didn't see when there is some awareness that is saying the campaign was a scam campaign.
The scam campaign will still appear if they are still doing it, dude.

The thing that often happens is that many projects have broken their promises to bounty hunters, even though these projects did not fail.
Even if the project fails, it should be the obligation of the project owner to give the rewards that have been promised. But still, not a few
project team broke promises. There are so many projects that I promote, but most of them did not keep their promises by rewarding bounty
hunters according to the promised time.

There are many reasons they use to delay distributing rewards, this is the harsh reality that many bounty hunters have experienced in this
forum. But in the end we as bounty hunters can't do anything, and can only accept the project team's decision.

I think if that happen, its the problem between the bounty manager and the project, the bounty manager should have agreement in the beginning of bounty, isnt it?

Bounty hunting is just like you are into Business, therefore, you can't also expect good results all the time.

I become a hunter for several years and of several campaigns, some pays while some did not. yes, it was not really acceptable but who are supposed to know that they will pay you as what we think. None, nothing it gives us assurance and we are lucky hunters that we got to pay and have a good market value.

That was exactly happen with the Nominex exchange sign camp participant, few months after the campaign end, they change their mind and make more delaying in payment. It was a shame an exchange like nominex that have good volume on cmc https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/nominex/ treats bounty hunters badly.
NOMINEX - cheating hunters by delaying payment for THREE years

Of the many projects, it is difficult to determine which projects will reward hunters and pay well. Here,
not all projects will successfully get the funds  they have  targeted. For that,  many  projects  also fail
and do not pay participants. Because investors are getting less, maybe because they already have been
deceived by fake projects. And the number of projects makes investors divided in several projects.

It is strange that there are no clear rules related to bounty campaigns im talking about standard rules for payment that include specific days for final spreadsheet and then specific days for distribution and the projects and campaigns who do not follow should be exposed and further proceedings should be started against them, bounty hunting is a serious work and it should be paid promptly.

It's so embarrassing how hunters are been treated like piece of trash, I frown most of the time when hunters are treated in such manner but what can we do, move on when the system cheated on you.
There is one that just happened today, most hunters would be familiar with Markaccy project, it was promoted on this forum sometimes around September, distribution was scheduled to take place today only for the CEO to come up with lame excuses that there website was down. I was astonished by their foolishness and failure.
I was wondering what distribution has to do with website.  

Gone are the days where we do see that there still some considerable projects that do able to succeed even though in 2017 50/50 chance
but still it is really worth for the time and effort been spent on this one.So don't expect that those things do still exist as of todays
bounties because finding one to be profitable is nearly impossible for this time.Dont expect much to get paid and if get paid
then don't expect for it to get listed.This is why I turned my back to bounty hunting due to this reason.

Bounty hunting was good 3 years ago, when there are many projects willing to pay huge amounts of their tokens or coins and at the same time these coins are not worthless. Many bounty hunters are no longer earning that much right now and many just simply quit altogether.
Because of this problem with the bounty hunters, and their frustration with getting projects they can market and all, sometimes I wonder if the forum management would actually allow users to use 2 signatures instead of one. That way it will be advantagaeous for the bounty hunter to join multiple projects and 2 signature campaigns for that matter. It is really something that we can be grateful for and having 2 signature campaigns will definitely gives us much more momentum and motivation.

This is the problem since the peak of ICO and I think bounty hunters should already know how to deal with this one and accept the fact that on your 10 projects, 6 of them will be failed or the worst case scenario all of them will fail. The risk for the hunters are always there, not unless you join a BTC paying signature then you’ll be good on that.

Bounty hunting becomes worthless in 2020, hardly anyone is making money from tokens which are yet to be listed still we can see lot of campaigns launched everyday in the bounty sections which means there are members who still promoting them when they are not receiving anything, so who need to be changed now?

When someone is bounty hunting, he should be ready for the worst scenario.  It is not new that many project don't pay Bounty hunters, ever since 2018, many projects are not paying bounty hunters, those that do not meet their softcap and those that are really a scam project.  So I think, as a bounty hunter we should really do our homework to research on the bounty campaign that we wanted to join.  See if the one managing the campaign is responsible enough to be the voice of the bounty hunters.

This is very common in distributing rewards. That is the main reason why you need to have a good manager with good reputation that can secure yourself with the rewards going to be distributed at the end of the bounty. Good managers will help you to have a lesser doubt with the projects you join in their bounty because they also have to maintain themselves an assurance that they can keep up a promise that a project they are managing. You're right that they should give it to you because you've worked for it and even if the project is not successful, they should give you some thoughts why it didn't go as promised.

I have  really had the case of much disappointment with Bounty though I have my own share with it. My own scenario is paying lesser than what  I actually worked for, I was into a bounty with the whole of my being I did the task for each week and at the end of this particular campaign I was paid for only a week this got on my nerve but when you think of other good project you have actually participated in this get you moving.

There are many people at fault here, the first is the bounty manager, some of them do not know what they are doing and get hunters into trouble, second is the hunters themselves, some of them behave as if they do not have any hope apart from the tokens from the bounty and add no value to the project they are suppose to be promoting. and last the is team themselves, some of these team member are born scammers, they do not have intention of paying any tokens in the first place and is difficult to determine this

Unfortunately, it seems like most projects do try to exploit, abuse and confuse bounty hunters by changing their stance often. I do know of some projects whose campaigns ended over 6 months ago but still they have not distributed anything to hunters, it is strange to see that these projects are working and their tokens are trading but still they find excuses to not pay hunters timely. This attitude must be stopped and teams should be responsible about it.

Choosing projects wisely is actually the most difficult to do. I have tried several times promoting a project but end up unpaid because the project was a scam. If you are like me who  just wanted to see project gets  develop and curious how they may go about it,  you will be disappointed too. I sometimes talk to the team and  discuss with them about regarding the developments which they say its getting good.

I sometimes are just surprise how  it turned out because the prices are dumped while you go all in sending some ETH.

Promoting different type of projects is dealing with different type of people, some will be good and some won't so we can't keep getting good end results from all bounty campaigns, the most important thing to do as a bounty hunter is do choose projects wisely

This of course is different when the bounty manager is very strict and have the funds for the marketing campaign. It's escrowed and ready to.be.given anytime soon after the bounty ends. Suddenly I am having a hard time finding one of those campaigns, most of the funds are with team themselves leaving bounty hunters on an edge. Only time can decide, I have been is so many bounty and I have lost count of the projects that failed me, so it doesn't matter anymore for me, I think I got sick and tired, moving on after the bounty ends, as I am waiting for the payment I am currently on a different one. That way it will be a surprise for you, just be patient.

I think hunters can still have something to do to get the management of of such bounty to look back and decide to be proper to promise. Something as negative marketing or advising can happen. And some members have big Twitter accounts that the general cryptocurrency followers do follow, so the management can have another change of heart, I guess so.

Well bounty hunters only have to learn lessons and adjust their bounty hunting skills, join campaigns from popular bounty managers and also promote listed or trading tokens too, go for quality projects because they always plan to protect their reputations

I think the whole thing boils down to the fact that most projects and their teams don't truly value hunters. They see the rewards they pay to hunters as doing hunters a huge favour rather than paying for the services these hunters did. Until hunters begin to command respect I don't see that mentality of BMs and project teams changing anytime soon. Hunters should be more selective of bounties they promote too. Make sure they're escrowed or are run by credible bounty managers.

Nope, I don't believe bounty hunters should feel helpless whenever such a sad situation of reneging to reward hunters arises. They should open a thread on reputation and drag out the project and the bounty manager. I know this isn't an easy thing to do as some BMs may become retaliatory once they're called out instead of appeasing the hunters or ameliorating the situation. I have had such an experience with one of the BMs here too.

There are several reasons why the bounty hunters are not rewarded for their effort and non willingness of the project is a rare one.
Many of the projects are just scams, it don't matter if they give you their token or not. Some fail to raise the minimum cap, the token would be useless again. Next is the failure of the project, even thought they get through, they fail to add value to the token so it's either never listed or crashes on listing. If everything's okay with the project and is legit, I have rarely heard bounty participants complaining about the project not providing the promised quantity.

that's indeed those scammers have been using various tricks to avoid their responsibility to deliver their promises to the hunters. So many times hunters were getting fooled by the scammer.
That's why any hunters must have done deep research to the project. The legit project will never try to do that.
I wanna say it's not all of the projects are scam but the majority of projects just wanna be money-grabber only.

IMO, those times of consecutive successful projects were already gone.
Before it's like 5/10 of projects will surely continue on even by just reaching the softcap.
But since scam attempts happened and they had successfully snatched money from investors it changed.

It's like investors had been traumatized and could be the reason most of the projects even the legitimate ones cannot continue.
They need funds, but where will they receive them? We can say it's like a domino effect.

Bounty hunters are those who enthusiastically join a campaign to promote a specific project to earn only a small amount of money from crypto.

But unfortunately, many project if not failed, they just give promises to the hunters to pay for their hard works after a couple of months which is still good to the part of the hunters and can do nothing but wait for the exact date that the project has promised.

Unfortunately, when the exact date comes, the project still refuses to send the reward for the hunters for the reason that they need to change their website and not keeping their promise. Anyway the website has nothing to do with the distribution of rewards, right? They promised to distribute rewards for ETH addresses, but not for accounts on the website.

This is very disappointing in the part of the bounty hunters, but what the hunters can do? Still nothing, but always hope and wait.

I believe a great project will be successful if they have a good marketing strategy with the full support of their team. The reward they provide for hunters is only a small percentage to promote their project. That is why I think they should give what is for the hunters, whether their project is successful or not.
Although hunters also wish the project success, of course.

What do you think guys, I am right or not?