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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

But, what is your point? Do you mean that manipulations by whales is only applicable with crypto markets? Or, crash and sudden pumps are happening only in crypto markets? Every market is a playground for those traders who are all able to withstand against high volatility. The level of pumps and downs in cryptomarket might be a minor factor why most whales enjoying the crypto market. It means already cryptocurrencies are too volatile and when whales add another layer of manipulation then we experience extreme conditions with almost all cryptocurrencies.

Like people do mention, those whales will get vanished by losing the power for manipulating when crypto markets are becoming too big for them to move it on their preferred direction.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on July 15, 2022, 04:54:25 PM

That is pretty simple, whales have always carried a positive view of the market and taken advantage of the market while prices are cheap. Real bag holders will do patiently and wait for the perfect time.

Bagholders vary as per their need. Most whales vary with their strategies too. While there will be people who make money here and there, the proper strategy should be to go against the whales when time permits. The whales usually manipulate the market to move in one direction when they themselves move in opposite direction.

Newbies fall for the trap of buying at the wrong time. But once you gain the experience you learn how to move your assets.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

That’s how big whales in the market played their game. They even shake the market more so that all weak hands will be threaten and start selling all their coins. And that’s how these wise whales in the market start buying their coins and take advantage on the low prices. If all investors will follow the strategies of these whales, then the whole market will be filled with millionaires, as whales can be deceptive to others because that’s how they can gain their advantage.

We need to give credit to the whales, they really know how to take advantage of every single scenario that presents to themselves to the fullest, and it is important that the average investor familiarizes themselves with their maneuvers, because if they don't then they are going to end up being victims of those movements and they are not going to understand at all how it is possible that they lost so much money when they never had any intention of selling their coins for a loss.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

That’s how big whales in the market played their game. They even shake the market more so that all weak hands will be threaten and start selling all their coins. And that’s how these wise whales in the market start buying their coins and take advantage on the low prices. If all investors will follow the strategies of these whales, then the whole market will be filled with millionaires, as whales can be deceptive to others because that’s how they can gain their advantage.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 16, 2022, 07:05:52 AM

I'd just notice that in almost everything it happens in the market we mostly blame whales and the manipulation. Sometimes I'd think that the market won't able to survive without these whales, huge investors. We are lucky of having them and we are thankful enough that because of them the market don't drop just like before.

That is why, if we only have access to them and know their plans, I think we are also doing the same and accumulating more. But that was hiding, they don't tell anyone, not like being a selfish action, it was also need to know whos gonna stay and whos gonna leave.

Not really, only in the bear market that whales get most of the hate.
Bear market: fuck whales for dumping and make my bag's price lower.
Bull market: hey whales, can you pump my bag's price up or provide the liquidation at a high price?

Big fish, small fish, it doesn't matter anymore since everyone wants to be rich and willing to step on others for profits and gains.

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I'd just notice that in almost everything it happens in the market we mostly blame whales and the manipulation. Sometimes I'd think that the market won't able to survive without these whales, huge investors. We are lucky of having them and we are thankful enough that because of them the market don't drop just like before.

That is why, if we only have access to them and know their plans, I think we are also doing the same and accumulating more. But that was hiding, they don't tell anyone, not like being a selfish action, it was also need to know whos gonna stay and whos gonna leave.

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Whales are the ones benefiting from the bear market presently. Because they always take good advantage of the bear market since they have enough USDT, BNB and BUSD to bagged coins, so it's not their problem if the market crashes. They buy enough coins during this bear period like the recent dump of Bitcoin which is currently at $19000, they even buy plenty pieces of it and wait for it's bull run up before selling. Let's say they are the ones that's incharge of the bear market because it's their thing and they fully know how to deal with it unlike investors who don't want to lose a penny in the bear market.

They really do.

But we need to learn from them and it shouldn't only be them that take that opportunity when it knocks. We can copy what they do despite that we're not par with their budget and capital.

Whatever you have as resource, just use it and do what also they do which is productive and profitable to them. That doesn't mean that you need to copy the whole thing they do but do what makes you also comfortable and productive during this bear market.

What whales do when a bear market occurs, we really have to pay attention to, especially the positive things they do, we have to imitate if we want
to be successful. Like buying crypto at low prices, whales often do this, it's not even surprising that whales will buy large amounts of coins during
a bear market. No whales want to lose money when investing in crypto, therefore whales buy in large quantities at low prices, they do it to be able
to generate big profits. So what are we waiting for, when a bear market occurs than we complain and do nothing, should collect coins that have
a bright future. Top coins can be a great option to collect when a bear market occurs. Don't let us become mere spectators by seeing whales
enjoying profit over and over again, we can also feel the same way, but maybe with different profit.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on July 15, 2022, 04:54:25 PM

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Not only hot spot + liquidity heaven. The inistutional financial organizations aka whales need liquidity and they have time to wait for next market cycle unlike impatient retail traders. After hitting lower low levels, liquidations will pop up slowly and stop hunt will make them strong. In the long run, whales aka smart money will leave market as winner.

That is pretty simple, whales have always carried a positive view of the market and taken advantage of the market while prices are cheap. Real bag holders will do patiently and wait for the perfect time. They can somehow manipulate the market and do the usual up-and-down strategy but this time, they are quiet enough, maybe they are preparing well for it. That I think we need to accumulate more as well so we can join the party once these whales started to pump the market price.

They do a lot of strategies (whales) to manipulate the market, one of them is by making some FUD or some News so that it will affect bitcoin fundamentals and to manipulate technically using only their money. Whales have a lot of money to manipulate the market, drive at the price they want, create some market sentiment to play the market psychology.

As a small trader I can only survive when prices continue to fall, but if we have good money management we can buy them again at low prices. Don't go against the tide or fight the whales, follow their mindset then we will be safe and can get some benefits.

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Not only hot spot + liquidity heaven. The inistutional financial organizations aka whales need liquidity and they have time to wait for next market cycle unlike impatient retail traders. After hitting lower low levels, liquidations will pop up slowly and stop hunt will make them strong. In the long run, whales aka smart money will leave market as winner.

That is pretty simple, whales have always carried a positive view of the market and taken advantage of the market while prices are cheap. Real bag holders will do patiently and wait for the perfect time. They can somehow manipulate the market and do the usual up-and-down strategy but this time, they are quiet enough, maybe they are preparing well for it. That I think we need to accumulate more as well so we can join the party once these whales started to pump the market price.

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Quote from: sumant on July 13, 2022, 04:24:54 AM

Yes most like that the crypto market has become a hot spot for whales. They have big money to invest and their favorite term is buying in crash is definitely helping this course. We ordinary investors always sell in panic. Big investors always buy in panic. They are accumulating their coins for future bumper profit so definitely a place where big whales are enjoying at present time.

Big investors always take advantage of the market. When an investor has the amount of money they can use to shake the market, they will certainly take the opportunity to pressure weak hand investors into panic selling.
If you look into the market now you will see how the pump dump is going. While retail investors are in for huge losses but whales are now playing their game. So the power of whales in the market is huge.

It's the investors that knows exactly what is obtainable in cryptocurrency not any investor who takes the advantages if bearish market. From what i know is that cryptocurrency investment is something of getting basic understanding and basics tactics of knowing the possible ways of management of cryptocurrency. Investors who knows what is obtainable for cryptocurrency due take time to understand the methods of investment

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Quote from: sumant on July 13, 2022, 04:24:54 AM

Yes most like that the crypto market has become a hot spot for whales. They have big money to invest and their favorite term is buying in crash is definitely helping this course. We ordinary investors always sell in panic. Big investors always buy in panic. They are accumulating their coins for future bumper profit so definitely a place where big whales are enjoying at present time.

Big investors always take advantage of the market. When an investor has the amount of money they can use to shake the market, they will certainly take the opportunity to pressure weak hand investors into panic selling.
If you look into the market now you will see how the pump dump is going. While retail investors are in for huge losses but whales are now playing their game. So the power of whales in the market is huge.

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Quote from: hashrateproducts on July 14, 2022, 12:54:21 AM

Whales are the ones benefiting from the bear market presently. Because they always take good advantage of the bear market since they have enough USDT, BNB and BUSD to bagged coins, so it's not their problem if the market crashes. They buy enough coins during this bear period like the recent dump of Bitcoin which is currently at $19000, they even buy plenty pieces of it and wait for it's bull run up before selling. Let's say they are the ones that's incharge of the bear market because it's their thing and they fully know how to deal with it unlike investors who don't want to lose a penny in the bear market.

They really do.

But we need to learn from them and it shouldn't only be them that take that opportunity when it knocks. We can copy what they do despite that we're not par with their budget and capital.

Whatever you have as resource, just use it and do what also they do which is productive and profitable to them. That doesn't mean that you need to copy the whole thing they do but do what makes you also comfortable and productive during this bear market.

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It will be more easy for whales to manipulate the market now than when it was bull. The market volume might not reduce much but the price of Bitcoin is low now, and it means the whales have much power now to manipulate the market.

But the at this stage of bitcoin price, everyone can actually benefit from it. Just buy bitcoin and hold for long and the activities of the whales will not affect you.

What whales actually do in the market now is to shake the market more so that strong hands will be more tested and weak hands will be more prone to fears and end up panicking. That's the time weak hands sell their hodlings, and since we are in a bear market, the whales will actively buying it at a very affordable price. Not just the whales alone, but even for those who know exactly what bear market opportunities brings, they eventually grab the chance buying more bitcoin while the price is highly discounted.

This is what the weak hands never understand, the whales are testing them and they will make the price to go down over and over again for a very long period of time so the weak hands begin to think that the bear market will last forever and they decide to abandon the market for good, but doing something like this plays against their self-interest and it is a mistaken move, as even if they bought when the price was very high the best move they could make right now was to buy some bitcoin so the average price at which they bought goes down and they can turn a profit faster than if they just held their coins.

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Quote from: sumant on July 13, 2022, 04:24:54 AM

Yes most like that the crypto market has become a hot spot for whales. They have big money to invest and their favorite term is buying in crash is definitely helping this course. We ordinary investors always sell in panic. Big investors always buy in panic. They are accumulating their coins for future bumper profit so definitely a place where big whales are enjoying at present time.

Whales are the ones benefiting from the bear market presently. Because they always take good advantage of the bear market since they have enough USDT, BNB and BUSD to bagged coins, so it's not their problem if the market crashes. They buy enough coins during this bear period like the recent dump of Bitcoin which is currently at $19000, they even buy plenty pieces of it and wait for it's bull run up before selling. Let's say they are the ones that's incharge of the bear market because it's their thing and they fully know how to deal with it unlike investors who don't want to lose a penny in the bear market.

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Quote from: KingsDen on July 01, 2022, 08:49:58 AM

It will be more easy for whales to manipulate the market now than when it was bull. The market volume might not reduce much but the price of Bitcoin is low now, and it means the whales have much power now to manipulate the market.

But the at this stage of bitcoin price, everyone can actually benefit from it. Just buy bitcoin and hold for long and the activities of the whales will not affect you.

What whales actually do in the market now is to shake the market more so that strong hands will be more tested and weak hands will be more prone to fears and end up panicking. That's the time weak hands sell their hodlings, and since we are in a bear market, the whales will actively buying it at a very affordable price. Not just the whales alone, but even for those who know exactly what bear market opportunities brings, they eventually grab the chance buying more bitcoin while the price is highly discounted.

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Yes most like that the crypto market has become a hot spot for whales. They have big money to invest and their favorite term is buying in crash is definitely helping this course. We ordinary investors always sell in panic. Big investors always buy in panic. They are accumulating their coins for future bumper profit so definitely a place where big whales are enjoying at present time.

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This market is whale's playground all the time, not just right now, whales are always manipulating the market until the time of the rise. They are practically controlling the market.
In a bear market they constantly try to scare people into buying at the cheapest price, then they try to pump the market and raise prices to sell at the most expensive price.
We as ordinary investors have to try to take advantage of opportunities in these times so the best strategy is to buy with every dip and wait for a bull market to sell.

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yes whales are the ones who are buying while the weak hands (immature traders are the onew selling , due to panic in the media.

But as with any product there is always cycles of ups and downs just need to know when to buy and sell
that's why DYOR is the best way to learn to help to minimize losses to your portfolio

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Quote from: sklopan on June 20, 2022, 08:16:01 AM

I think this is quite normal. People want to earn. This is quite predictable. More importantly - to do an analysis of their actions.

people want to earn it is quite understandable that everybody who is into trading as a who is interpreter currency is ready to achieve progress to each of it's step in cryptocurrency. Op gives nice analysis from my own perspective but I believe that cryptocurrency does not work through prediction and the procrastination what it works with is the courage observation and endurance into it's domination. What everyone is interested of in cryptocurrency is to make profit.

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Quote from: KingsDen on July 01, 2022, 08:49:58 AM

It will be more easy for whales to manipulate the market now than when it was bull. The market volume might not reduce much but the price of Bitcoin is low now, and it means the whales have much power now to manipulate the market.

But the at this stage of bitcoin price, everyone can actually benefit from it. Just buy bitcoin and hold for long and the activities of the whales will not affect you.

Well, on the other hand, if you don't want to get affected with whales, then do act as one. Everyone can be a whale and be wise and smart in decision making. And just like a whale, always aim for the best opportunities in the market as its going to create massive profits in the future. The current market condition is always the best time to invest, and a lot of whales have been waiting for the weak hands to sell their coins so they can buy them at its most affordable price.

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The hot spot for whales is during a bull run. When people are hyped if a crypto is going parabolic, these whales are just watching and waiting for the perfect time to dump their bags. The current market condition is where whales are accumulating before the next cycle again. If price will go down more, then whales will be happier because they will be able to buy more amount with their capital. This is the time you can become a millionaire in the future if you know what to do.

I feel like hot spot for whales would be bear market and not the bull market. Because, whales make money during bull period like everyone else, we make money during that time as well and they do too. Think about it, these days you could buy like 3-4 billion dollars worth of bitcoin and yes it would increase the price a bit, but it won't change the whole sphere of it, it would make it 25k max if you ask me, not even 30k for sure.

However, when the price reaches to 60k that would be more than the double, how many things in life could turn your 3-4 billion to 6-8 billion? Not talking about turning 10 bucks to 20 bucks here, this is billions, you can't invest that much into many things. Hence why I believe whales care about bear period more and try to gather as much as they can.

Without a doubt they are more active during a bear market, when the bull market is just materializing I think they do what they can to create a spark, but after they do so and see that they have been successful they just stay on the sidelines and provide support whenever the bull market is slowing down so it keeps growing and attracts even more people, however it is in the bear market when they are more active as they are buying all the bitcoin they can while at the same time they keep its price suppressed so this opportunity lasts as long as possible and they can maximize their profits.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 08, 2022, 07:26:40 AM

The hot spot for whales is during a bull run. When people are hyped if a crypto is going parabolic, these whales are just watching and waiting for the perfect time to dump their bags. The current market condition is where whales are accumulating before the next cycle again. If price will go down more, then whales will be happier because they will be able to buy more amount with their capital. This is the time you can become a millionaire in the future if you know what to do.

I feel like hot spot for whales would be bear market and not the bull market. Because, whales make money during bull period like everyone else, we make money during that time as well and they do too. Think about it, these days you could buy like 3-4 billion dollars worth of bitcoin and yes it would increase the price a bit, but it won't change the whole sphere of it, it would make it 25k max if you ask me, not even 30k for sure.

However, when the price reaches to 60k that would be more than the double, how many things in life could turn your 3-4 billion to 6-8 billion? Not talking about turning 10 bucks to 20 bucks here, this is billions, you can't invest that much into many things. Hence why I believe whales care about bear period more and try to gather as much as they can.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

What do you expect from whales? They play wise and smart, and they are always quick to take advantage whenever the market is showing some opportunities to invest. While they keep on doing that to increase their volume of bitcoin, they also start to shake the market so that weak hands will resort into panic selling at a very affordable price. Thus, making them richer while those weak hands turn out the poorest of the poor.

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In my opinion, actually ebarish era is time for all of us here to seek for every cahnce thatw e can make. We know that ebarish era is alwyas very risky and all of coins are dropping. But, if we know how the ways, we can exactly take profits. Moroever if we are willing for long term investment, this is a hot spot for us toadd more coins and hold for long term

It's true but many of us panic at a bearish time because we don't think that bearish time will come. Most of us will start selling late because we couldn't sell at the previous high. If we can use the bearish time to buy a lot of potential coins, it will give us to buy at a low price. So we have to try not to panic and sell the coins that we have saved because it means we will not make a profit.

Panicking is one of the most common mistakes that weak hands do. They buy at quite a high price and sell it when the value of their coin drops due to fear. Panic is one of the reasons why some of us lose a lot during the bearish season which is actually the best time to buy and have patience while waiting for the market to recover. We'll only lose the opportunity to make a profit because of fear.

Panic selling sometimes quite helpful in some occasions especially if you recently buy at top then price sudden move downward because newbie can cutloss already at early stage and just buy back.

Although Panic sell and late sell are two different matter. Late sell is the worst user bought at top then wait until the price go deeper and stabilize to sell. This is always the case for most newbie that result to tremendous loss compared to panic selling which are those user that sell during the start of the sell off.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on July 08, 2022, 06:51:36 PM

In my opinion, actually ebarish era is time for all of us here to seek for every cahnce thatw e can make. We know that ebarish era is alwyas very risky and all of coins are dropping. But, if we know how the ways, we can exactly take profits. Moroever if we are willing for long term investment, this is a hot spot for us toadd more coins and hold for long term

It's true but many of us panic at a bearish time because we don't think that bearish time will come. Most of us will start selling late because we couldn't sell at the previous high. If we can use the bearish time to buy a lot of potential coins, it will give us to buy at a low price. So we have to try not to panic and sell the coins that we have saved because it means we will not make a profit.

Panicking is one of the most common mistakes that weak hands do. They buy at quite a high price and sell it when the value of their coin drops due to fear. Panic is one of the reasons why some of us lose a lot during the bearish season which is actually the best time to buy and have patience while waiting for the market to recover. We'll only lose the opportunity to make a profit because of fear.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on July 08, 2022, 06:51:36 PM

In my opinion, actually ebarish era is time for all of us here to seek for every cahnce thatw e can make. We know that ebarish era is alwyas very risky and all of coins are dropping. But, if we know how the ways, we can exactly take profits. Moroever if we are willing for long term investment, this is a hot spot for us toadd more coins and hold for long term

It's true but many of us panic at a bearish time because we don't think that bearish time will come. Most of us will start selling late because we couldn't sell at the previous high. If we can use the bearish time to buy a lot of potential coins, it will give us to buy at a low price. So we have to try not to panic and sell the coins that we have saved because it means we will not make a profit.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on July 08, 2022, 06:51:36 PM

In my opinion, actually ebarish era is time for all of us here to seek for every cahnce thatw e can make. We know that ebarish era is alwyas very risky and all of coins are dropping. But, if we know how the ways, we can exactly take profits. Moroever if we are willing for long term investment, this is a hot spot for us toadd more coins and hold for long term

But the OP isn't only talking about the bearish times. Also, instead of using the word bear, why not say crypto? Crypto is for those who seek to make a profit and no matter what the status of the market is, there is always a way to produce a profit.

Again it was the bearish that it is risky but it was the overall cryptos since cryptos are highly volatile although there are noobs that think bearish is risky as they see that prices are dropping. They don't know that a bear was actually an opportunity to bag more coins. Not only on the current situation but ever since whales find out about cryptos, they started checking it out but there's no need to be afraid of them.

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In my opinion, actually ebarish era is time for all of us here to seek for every cahnce thatw e can make. We know that ebarish era is alwyas very risky and all of coins are dropping. But, if we know how the ways, we can exactly take profits. Moroever if we are willing for long term investment, this is a hot spot for us toadd more coins and hold for long term

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Obviously true. Cryptocurrency market is a hotspot due to multiple reasons, it is unregulated absolutely so there is no risk of regulators catching you doing unfair things, market is highly volatile which means rewards are higher for you. Investor education is bare minimum people buy the fake pumps easily to it's pretty easy to liquidate retail bulls. All on all it's a great hunting ground for whales to eat the fishes from the sea.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 08, 2022, 07:26:40 AM

The hot spot for whales is during a bull run. When people are hyped if a crypto is going parabolic, these whales are just watching and waiting for the perfect time to dump their bags. The current market condition is where whales are accumulating before the next cycle again. If price will go down more, then whales will be happier because they will be able to buy more amount with their capital. This is the time you can become a millionaire in the future if you know what to do.

Whales do not get so powerful by chance, they know exactly what they are doing and they understand that the right thing to do right now is to buy all the bitcoin they can, but at the same time they are doing in such a way so the price does not increase, as creating too much demand so soon goes against their interest as not only this will increase the price but it will also diminish the mount of time bitcoin spends being in a bear market and that is not a good thing for them.

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The hot spot for whales is during a bull run. When people are hyped if a crypto is going parabolic, these whales are just watching and waiting for the perfect time to dump their bags. The current market condition is where whales are accumulating before the next cycle again. If price will go down more, then whales will be happier because they will be able to buy more amount with their capital. This is the time you can become a millionaire in the future if you know what to do.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

This is the advantage if you are a whale investor, which is the opposite of ordinary crypto traders because only a small amount can be bought in such a bear market. Whale investors have the ability to control the rise or fall of the price of a coin on an exchange, which most traders and have no opponent against such manipulation they do in the market. Unless you can read technical analysis you have a chance to keep up with the sale and purchase of tokens according to my own point of view and opinion.

They could also accumulate for a long time without a worry and increase it whenever they want to as well. Getting like 50 million dollars, 25 million dollars or whatever wouldn't be noticed all that much, which means that we are going to see plenty of these people doing whatever they want and whenever they want. They got too much?

They could then start to make sure that they could end up making a big of a deal and create a hype and the price go up. This is why I believe that whales could manipulate the market however they and that is known, but they could stay under the radar as well which is the biggest news and the most important part of the deal.

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At the same time, I see that there are still enough risks and many do not yet risk injecting significant amounts.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

This is the advantage if you are a whale investor, which is the opposite of ordinary crypto traders because only a small amount can be bought in such a bear market. Whale investors have the ability to control the rise or fall of the price of a coin on an exchange, which most traders and have no opponent against such manipulation they do in the market. Unless you can read technical analysis you have a chance to keep up with the sale and purchase of tokens according to my own point of view and opinion.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Every time the bearish market, it is a good time for Bitcoin lovers to add more amounts into their wallet. Yes, buying Bitcoin during this dip is precious enough moreover to hold for long term investment, not for short term. For, we know how the price of Bitcoin after bearish, there may be significant rising up in the bullish.
Not all people can nejoy this dip market, many feel so depression on this market situation. But for us, as long as we have long term mindset,, this dip is a way to add more BTC, not to loose because of panic.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 21, 2022, 02:18:40 PM

Whales have money saved up aside, it is both liquid, and also things that are in assets which could be liquidated if they wanted to and could make a good profit from it as well. Like for example if you have tens of millions of dollars in just cash sitting then you are not really a proper rich person, the real rich person would have negative on their bank accounts because their money would be working somewhere for them, not sitting.

So, if we are talking about a bear market, they will overleverage their position and get some debt and put it here, because they know that they could pay that back with the income they have anyway, and price would go up faster than the repayment.

Whales will always know what's best for them, and that investing their money particularly in crypto and let them grow after a year or two will always be their aim. Also, they can manipulate the market with their tons of money, and screw the people and eventually the weak hands fall for them. While some have never been richer, but these whales who often took the best opportunities in the market will never become poorer but will always try to accumulate more wealth and make them more wealthy.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

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Perhaps, you can be aware of what and how these whales will respond to the market situation. They are smart enough and for sure they don't want to miss the chance and even let this bear season pass doing nothing. Though they are not vocal and even quiet by now, it was also presumed that they are buying a huge amount of Bitcoin (and some altcoins) in anticipating the upcoming halving.

Let these whales make fun of the current market condition, we are also benefiting from it.

we just need to follow the thinking of the whales in the market. how can whales not be tempted to get cheap bitcoins from ATH? Of course, they won't miss this great moment. they know how to play. we just have to be on the lookout for market moves that the whales might move. especially in the altcoin market.

Whales are whales, and they use the market volatility to generate a profit. Of course, the bear season is also called as accumulating season, whales can never think of skipping it but rather grab the opportunity. In fact, they have been buying during the bull season, so never do we think they will never do it during this time. Well, as we know that whales are too influential, and with the help of these people we, therefore, see a glimpse of some price increase when they will take action (manipulate).

Do you think whales wouldn't cash out if the price increased since we're now at very low already? Heck, if I was a whale, accumulating for BTC at around $20k for a while now, I would cash out at least half of that amount if the price increased by 10%. Cause you know, the bear market is still here and it does not like everything back to sunshine, out of the bear yet so why would a whale take a risk? That's why I doubt we could see a price increase when whales are in their accumulating phase at the bear market time.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on July 01, 2022, 07:59:14 AM

Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

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Perhaps, you can be aware of what and how these whales will respond to the market situation. They are smart enough and for sure they don't want to miss the chance and even let this bear season pass doing nothing. Though they are not vocal and even quiet by now, it was also presumed that they are buying a huge amount of Bitcoin (and some altcoins) in anticipating the upcoming halving.

Let these whales make fun of the current market condition, we are also benefiting from it.

we just need to follow the thinking of the whales in the market. how can whales not be tempted to get cheap bitcoins from ATH? Of course, they won't miss this great moment. they know how to play. we just have to be on the lookout for market moves that the whales might move. especially in the altcoin market.

Whales are whales, and they use the market volatility to generate a profit. Of course, the bear season is also called as accumulating season, whales can never think of skipping it but rather grab the opportunity. In fact, they have been buying during the bull season, so never do we think they will never do it during this time. Well, as we know that whales are too influential, and with the help of these people we, therefore, see a glimpse of some price increase when they will take action (manipulate).

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It will be more easy for whales to manipulate the market now than when it was bull. The market volume might not reduce much but the price of Bitcoin is low now, and it means the whales have much power now to manipulate the market.

But the at this stage of bitcoin price, everyone can actually benefit from it. Just buy bitcoin and hold for long and the activities of the whales will not affect you.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on July 01, 2022, 07:59:14 AM

Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Perhaps, you can be aware of what and how these whales will respond to the market situation. They are smart enough and for sure they don't want to miss the chance and even let this bear season pass doing nothing. Though they are not vocal and even quiet by now, it was also presumed that they are buying a huge amount of Bitcoin (and some altcoins) in anticipating the upcoming halving.

Let these whales make fun of the current market condition, we are also benefiting from it.

we just need to follow the thinking of the whales in the market. how can whales not be tempted to get cheap bitcoins from ATH? Of course, they won't miss this great moment. they know how to play. we just have to be on the lookout for market moves that the whales might move. especially in the altcoin market.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Perhaps, you can be aware of what and how these whales will respond to the market situation. They are smart enough and for sure they don't want to miss the chance and even let this bear season pass doing nothing. Though they are not vocal and even quiet by now, it was also presumed that they are buying a huge amount of Bitcoin (and some altcoins) in anticipating the upcoming halving.

Let these whales make fun of the current market condition, we are also benefiting from it.

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Quote from: crzy on June 30, 2022, 04:49:45 PM

Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

This is why we have to know the movements of whales, this can be your guide to buy and sell because as we all know, they can really move the market and if you see those trends better to start analyzing and do the necessary action according to that trend. Small investors can still make money here, just be creative and keep on analyzing.

Whale is an imaginary umbrella term used to denote big investors and those who trade in volumes that can influence the market movements. Someone specific it might not be but using that term "know the movement of whales" is a vague one and an incorrect one. You cannot know big market movements before they appear but you can prepare for them. Likewise you can buy at the low price when the market is dropping, hoping that whales will buy and raise the market while selling when it reaches the top.

Dont be fooled by what some users say on the internet, there is always a chance that market might move in opposite direction. Small investors should not get into such talks, they are counter productive, but focus on the long term gain.

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Quote from: crzy on June 30, 2022, 04:49:45 PM

Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

This is why we have to know the movements of whales, this can be your guide to buy and sell because as we all know, they can really move the market and if you see those trends better to start analyzing and do the necessary action according to that trend. Small investors can still make money here, just be creative and keep on analyzing.

now, that's hard. monitoring the movement of whales. you will get headache if you do that. better know your goals in this market and learn how to achieve those goals. because chasing others would only cause you too much stress without accomplishing anything.
much better if you will study valuable projects that you can get involved with. because you don't know the reasons of these whales. some are just jumping with the hype without any basis. and if you got screwed, they won't care.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

This is why we have to know the movements of whales, this can be your guide to buy and sell because as we all know, they can really move the market and if you see those trends better to start analyzing and do the necessary action according to that trend. Small investors can still make money here, just be creative and keep on analyzing.

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Quote from: sklopan on June 25, 2022, 02:57:30 PM

The cryptocurrency market is now quite sensitive and to think that it can "absorb" any difficulties is not very correct, as for me.

No one had stated that it could absorb any sentiments that do happen around even though its believed that outside events or news couldnt typically made out some significant effect anytime on this market and also this isnt only a playground for those whales if we do talk about crypto market because in other markets and investment as well then they do usually love to hang or deal with it which is really very
common for them to do so because whales do love to dive in on whatever things that they do see that they could really make out money or profits thats why having that financial capacity
could really be having that pure advantage which isnt something surprising.

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I think it is potentially a very good time to be a crypto whale. Coins are cheap right now and although the economic recovery make take a while and the war in Ukraine is still going, I suspect the returns will be huge in a years time.

Whales have the fiat reserves to keeping buying during these corrections and that gives them a huge advantage. Personally, I would love to pick up more coins when they’re cheap but I don’t much extra fiat laying around at the moment.

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The cryptocurrency market is now quite sensitive and to think that it can "absorb" any difficulties is not very correct, as for me.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 20, 2022, 06:23:02 PM

Agree, day trading isn't as easy as we think, it is for a professional or experienced trader only. Sure, it is not recommended for beginners or people who have a lack knowledge about crypto market. A daytrader needs to know well about candle/charts analysis, he also needs to update any information about the current situation in crypto market and the coins he wants to trade. Someone needs enough experience in trading before trying daytrade.

That's why daytrading has never been really good for me in the last 2 years. I don't have enough time to analyze the market and I don't have a good ability to cross most price charts all the time so investing is a very useful option for me so far over daytrading.

Experience may teach us many things, but of course we just have to have the courage to make decisions. Daytrade in the end is just tough for most people who prefer to play it safe for the long term.

Day trading isnt for everybody because this do really requires sufficient experience and skills on handling out or dealing out with the market on very active manner which is something that do really require that specific

qualities or capabilities of a certain individual.Even if you arent a whale but doesnt mean that you cant get along or ride with the waves whenever there some possible movement of price in the market.
Doesnt matter on what kind of ways or method you would really be doing as long it would be significant and effective on your part or you could make out some profits then better stick
into that particular strategy and trying out to utilize as much as you can.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 20, 2022, 06:23:02 PM

Agree, day trading isn't as easy as we think, it is for a professional or experienced trader only. Sure, it is not recommended for beginners or people who have a lack knowledge about crypto market. A daytrader needs to know well about candle/charts analysis, he also needs to update any information about the current situation in crypto market and the coins he wants to trade. Someone needs enough experience in trading before trying daytrade.

That's why daytrading has never been really good for me in the last 2 years. I don't have enough time to analyze the market and I don't have a good ability to cross most price charts all the time so investing is a very useful option for me so far over daytrading.

Experience may teach us many things, but of course we just have to have the courage to make decisions. Daytrade in the end is just tough for most people who prefer to play it safe for the long term.

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Quote from: Viscore on June 25, 2022, 10:43:30 AM

Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

And weak hands usually fall for them. I guess that’s certainly the role of the whales in the market, to create fuds that will threaten the investors and those who are not strong and wise enough will eventually fall on their tricks. That is why it’s not only the funds that should be prepared when we enter the market, but also having positivity in our mindset and strong faith in our investments. Otherwise, whales will definitely take advantage on us every time the market crashes and left us losing in one side.

It is indeed the role of those big whales inside the market, monitoring the condition and throwing money when opportunities are open,

Like what you just said, when there's a collapse, weak holders are the victims of those whales. They are just waiting for fears to conquer

the mindsets of those holders who are unsure on what to do in this kind of situation, end of the day whales will collect and withdraw

huge amount of profits.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

And weak hands usually fall for them. I guess that’s certainly the role of the whales in the market, to create fuds that will threaten the investors and those who are not strong and wise enough will eventually fall on their tricks. That is why it’s not only the funds that should be prepared when we enter the market, but also having positivity in our mindset and strong faith in our investments. Otherwise, whales will definitely take advantage on us every time the market crashes and left us losing in one side.

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That's just how it goes. Whales have more chances to actually trade and profit since they play it big and well, losing money is something natural to them. Even someone who owns a sizeable amount of assets would consider losing as something of the norm. Newbies get eaten simply because they're afraid or don't know the hows and whos, and heck losing is something natural here. The market is a zero-sum game after all.

Besides whales can't cause permanent manipulation, at most it'd last a day or maybe even a few hours at best, and it's not really unfair, that's just how it goes since they have that much of an asset and are capable of doing so. It's just up to each own's skills to actually understand what's happening and move based on it.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

If they can take the crash as an opportunity to make money then what is stopping you from doing the same strategy,you may not have million dollars but the strategy can be same the hundreds can be turned into thousands and just repeat it whenever you got the opportunity and eventually you may become one of them in a decade or so, interesting isn't? Cheesy

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Weak hands make the present market condition a hot spot for whales, as they are always afraid to witness the market collapsing and that's where big whales start to lure them for their own desires. However, wise investors that have strong hands have also seen this coming and that they would never let theirselves fall for whales. If whales see a big opportunity in this current downtrend, then wise investors have always anticipate this moment too. So its certainly a long awaited moment both for whales and wise investors.

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Who is preventing you to play? The market is open for everyone and anyone can play. Even though we aren't whales but realize what whales are doing now. So we can follow them and take advantage of the dip. But the problem is we become panicky when seeing the red market where whales take entry. The fair is preventing us from making money and we don't have enough patience as well.

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Whales have money saved up aside, it is both liquid, and also things that are in assets which could be liquidated if they wanted to and could make a good profit from it as well. Like for example if you have tens of millions of dollars in just cash sitting then you are not really a proper rich person, the real rich person would have negative on their bank accounts because their money would be working somewhere for them, not sitting.

So, if we are talking about a bear market, they will overleverage their position and get some debt and put it here, because they know that they could pay that back with the income they have anyway, and price would go up faster than the repayment.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Whales know how to play the game of manipulation and that is why we are always seen that when you as ordinary investors invested that is when the price goes down and whenever you sold that is when it will start going up! It is always against you because you don't control the market but the whales does. From Luna and sol I have learned big lesson and if not because sol's stakeholders takes Steps and limits the power of whales we could have seeing it follow the path of Luna

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 21, 2022, 12:15:42 AM

Indeed they are.
It's nice to have a bag of money today and be the new whale of the dumped market. Every coin now is as cheap as they can get and if you can pick something that you could shake the price then it will be worth the risk of investing.
I don't mind, that's the perks of having a lot of money but that doesn't mean they are in a safe spot. The possibility of being rekt still lingers and you have to make sure that won't happen.

And the first thing to prevent from being rekt is don't invest in any shitcoins, just buy Bitcoin. Shitcoins have a bigger risk of being rekt due to scam project and liquidity manipulation, especially those shitcoins who have price less and far than $1 e.g. $0.0001 don't forget top 10 coins doesn't mean it's always legit coins, I'd say at least 7 coins on top 10 in CMC are scam and centralized.

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Indeed they are.
It's nice to have a bag of money today and be the new whale of the dumped market. Every coin now is as cheap as they can get and if you can pick something that you could shake the price then it will be worth the risk of investing.
I don't mind, that's the perks of having a lot of money but that doesn't mean they are in a safe spot. The possibility of being rekt still lingers and you have to make sure that won't happen.

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Day trading is only for those who understand how to do technical analysis, read every candle movement well. The capital required must also be a lot to be able to get a commensurate profit. But for those beginners, day trading will be a bigger risk of loss if not executed properly.

Agree, day trading isn't as easy as we think, it is for a professional or experienced trader only. Sure, it is not recommended for beginners or people who have a lack knowledge about crypto market. A daytrader needs to know well about candle/charts analysis, he also needs to update any information about the current situation in crypto market and the coins he wants to trade. Someone needs enough experience in trading before trying daytrade.

those who are inexperienced are just trying their luck, but it's a fatal mistake to spend their money only on things they don't understand. Even a professional can still experience losses, especially those who have zero experience and do not understand technical analysis and fundamental analysis. In addition to daytrade we can also use scalping techniques which of course will be faster and also require large capital, buy and sell orders will be done quickly when there are some profit differences and are done repeatedly

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There is an easier way to win along side the whales, just HOLD and only sell when bull run is about to be over. Amidst the crash, the whales are also waiting for the price to also dip to the bottom while time and economic downturn makes everyone sell.

You're only screwed when you sell at loss. Its a bit late to say but I think selling decision should have bee decided when a holders sees the bull run made the price peak to its NEW ATH. Get out far from being screwed.

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yeah whales can do whatever they want to do Grin

but if you can wise and watch carefully the patern maybe you can still get profitable especially on futures trade.

but usually happen is when we took the short position somehow the price going up for an hour made short get liquid and then people take long position and boom the price goes down again to take long postion and get liquid Cry

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I agree with OP. Whales are really having a great advantage in the current market situation, they can easily make money by using their money.
Market manipulation is still existing though even to this day but I still believe that these kinds of situations are just temporary.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

That's always happened in different markets not only in crypto. The whales have been playing in the market for a long time and every time the dump comes, they're all being blamed as they manipulate it. But when the market pumps and all eyes are on it, people don't talk about them because everyone prospers. Let's take the logic of the saying that, "wherever money is, everybody talks". cmiiw.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Its not hot spot but rather a place where they stay because they see some wealth on it. Maybe you are just seeing it as their playing ground because on a sort of manipulation happened but everyone can actually ride with it and the only thing we need is not to get panic on what people doing on every market movements. If you can't do long trades better study first how to do short trades because you can find more learnings on your experience while doing this.

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Quote from: kamvreto on June 20, 2022, 10:30:23 AM

Day trading is only for those who understand how to do technical analysis, read every candle movement well. The capital required must also be a lot to be able to get a commensurate profit. But for those beginners, day trading will be a bigger risk of loss if not executed properly.

Agree, day trading isn't as easy as we think, it is for a professional or experienced trader only. Sure, it is not recommended for beginners or people who have a lack knowledge about crypto market. A daytrader needs to know well about candle/charts analysis, he also needs to update any information about the current situation in crypto market and the coins he wants to trade. Someone needs enough experience in trading before trying daytrade.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Entire community in short because not only whales do make it as a playground but also into other small retail traders as well or institutions who do take involvement on this one or simply implies that this is free for all but the thing we do know that whales would always have that advantage on moving out prices due to their financial capabilities which is really something that normal and let's just accept that fact.
Why would always love to make comparison? Even if you are just small then you could always able to ride on with the waves.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Why do they allow getting liquidated?
It's why there are stop loss options in the first place. Trading is a game of winning and losing. You have to make sure your win rate is higher than your losing rate. You also have to make sure your risk reward ratio is reasonable. at least more than 1
Lastly, don't be so greedy.

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If you think like that, then you should follow the movements of the whales to be able to profit. And if you can't keep up with the whales, you shouldn't go into the market for a while because that could cost you money. Maybe we can't rely on price movements but we should learn to follow price movements while looking for gaps to enter the market. In that way, we can still benefit from price movements for us.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Every whale was once a beginner. They have become whales because they used opportunities like the current one to their best.
They kept doing it and that has what made them the whales. So we have the equal opportunity right now.
Lets hit the rod when it's red hot. The markets are red which is the best time to fill our bags.
I would call it a hot spot for everyone but the whales are utilizing it to the best.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Don't do futures trading with high leverage on volatile market like this to avoid liquidation. Whales indeed squeezing retail traders position to get profit from it as an exit liquidity. The whales that only benefited on this kind of scheme those institution traders with huge amount of fund to give pressure to the market while having there own open position.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

I mean, that's what liquidations do, right? If you get liquidated, you are pretty much forced to buy/sell to return what you loaned; and obviously that can move the market depending on size and/or if it cascades.

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MAaaN...!! CUT THAT STUPID SHIT

Quote from: TheUltraElite on June 20, 2022, 09:31:09 AM

Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements.

Why do you need to rely on price movements? To place orders you just need to place it and forget till it gets executed. If you are day trading this does not apply, you have to check movements often probably with a bot running and therefore day trading is not recommended to everybody.

Day trading is only for those who understand how to do technical analysis, read every candle movement well. The capital required must also be a lot to be able to get a commensurate profit. But for those beginners, day trading will be a bigger risk of loss if not executed properly.

Quote from: TheUltraElite on June 20, 2022, 09:31:09 AM

Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

If you keep thinking like that you will never see the positive side of it and be encouraged to trade. Because the price is low, you are getting a chance to buy. Just think of prices beyond 69k USD which was the last all time high, do you think you can buy a chunk of bitcoin at that price easily with your daily allocation?

Depending on what exactly is the background of your post, it is difficult to comment further, but I assume you lost money by either trading in altcoins or buying at the top price and now you are stuck at low price.

When the current price is low enough, they won't buy it. They will continue to say that it is the end of bitcoin and dare not enter. On the other hand, when the price starts to rise and continues to rise, buying is an option, even though the price has been affected by FOMO and is too high.

The OP may incur losses in some ltcoins or in bitcoins. But I don't know, the important thing is to know how the market moves. Whales can manipulate but not completely. Learn to think like a whale, don't fight it.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements.

Why do you need to rely on price movements? To place orders you just need to place it and forget till it gets executed. If you are day trading this does not apply, you have to check movements often probably with a bot running and therefore day trading is not recommended to everybody.

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When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

If you keep thinking like that you will never see the positive side of it and be encouraged to trade. Because the price is low, you are getting a chance to buy. Just think of prices beyond 69k USD which was the last all time high, do you think you can buy a chunk of bitcoin at that price easily with your daily allocation?

Depending on what exactly is the background of your post, it is difficult to comment further, but I assume you lost money by either trading in altcoins or buying at the top price and now you are stuck at low price.

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Quote from: sklopan on June 20, 2022, 08:16:01 AM

More importantly - to do an analysis of their actions.

What kind analysis we do about their actions? are you buy Bitcoin because a billionaire or president have bought it? well that's really bad idea and you shouldn't rely on other people about your decision. Wealthy or high position person isn't make them smart, moreover they're rich not because of Bitcoin.

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I think this is quite normal. People want to earn. This is quite predictable. More importantly - to do an analysis of their actions.

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

It benefits those who hold a decent amount of cash/other assets to buy at lower prices. It might also be a lesson in diversification for some to work out how much extra they could've bought if they didn't invest everything at once (even though crashes like these don't come very often - so it's not a good idea to sell and pin your hopes on buying lower).

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It's not a hot spot only for whales, but it's for wise people who're know investing in Bitcoin take a long time to earn good money and not worried to buy in bear market, also a strong hand who ready to hold for many years. A wise people isn't a billionaire or millionaire, but middle or even low class can buy Bitcoin in cheap price. A billionaire or millionaire can be said as stupid if he's panic about the market and sold early.

Then the question is are you a wise person who buy every dip and will hold or dumb person who panic?

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Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

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