Topic: The Debate (Read 816 times)

Trump is a strategist. Even if Biden is younger, he wouldn't also have stood Trump. I remember years ago, when it was Trump and Hillary, Hillary was making some nice points, but at a time Trump left the debate and attacked the character behind the debate. He brought in the email scandal and threatened to jail Hillary, from there she started losing it. So, anyone who is willing to face Trump, should first think out of the box because he is dynamic and full of surprises.

I think we all agree on this, except for Biden himself.   The guy is an asshole if he thinks losing to Trump is OK as long as he gives his best.   The entire world is on the line!  Go take a nap.

The USA I knew isn't what am seeing throughout the Biden's administration it has been cold on world issues especially regarding to global security he has been more reactive than proactive. Some of us would agree that in the days of Barrack Obama and Trump the lingering conflict of Russia and Ukraine would have been a thing of the past by now.

Let's be realistic, age has gotten a better part of Biden and he is not looking fit and energetic when compared to his opponents in this election. He has given his best and I feel the democrats would have taken his age into consideration before flagging him off as their candidate because this is really going on disadvantageous for them as a lot of voters from what have been reading online are questioning the situation.

In the debate, Trump did what every opponent would have done in any debate... Taking advantage of the lapses of his contender, so I practically see nothing wrong with how Trump presented under that circumstance. I pray Americans get it right this time.

Vera Biden got fucked up again, Putin imagined it. Remove Grandfather from the board already!

That is actually a good point and it is something I have seen in other places on the internet to be mentioned, Vod.
We are talking about the United States of a America, one of the most important countries on the planet and one of the candidates for the position of president is an actual convicted felon, that means the election is supposed to be a no-brainer, an easy win for whoever is against the convicted felon, but instead of that we see the opposing candidate is struggling to keep a minimum advantage against the convicted felon civily guilty of rapist.
To me is not only about what the other candidate has or does not have to offer to the people of a such beautiful country like the United States, it is more about the decadence of politics in that country.
In previous years (the 2000s) if a presidential candidate was guilty of defamation like Trump is or was indicted of a fraction of his crimes, it would have been translated to a end of their political career.

I believe that Biden, even with the best intentions, cannot serve another four years - decline is exponential in your 80's.   No one likes to take away the car keys, but usually the person losing the keys needs it to be forced upon them.

Biden is being so selfish by choosing to stay in the race.   If he loses to Trump, he'll say he did his best so he feels proud.  But his best, most mature thing to do, is to step down.   Anyone else can beat a wannabe dictator felon.

The stairs and bikes are nothing compared to the frozen moments.  He is a sick man and should resign giving us Kamala as the first women black and Indian preside now and to boot she is under 60 years old.

Biden is a good man, it is a shame that he does not have the capacity to govern due to his age

But I thought you said the deep state was the number one enemy of Donald Trump, since Trump wanted to destroy the deep state or something like it? Why on earth would the deep state to go along with Trump if Trump wants them destroyed?
To me it is more likely all this is just a miscalculation by someone within the campaign team of Joe Biden, who forgot Biden is not completely functional in some hours of the night and hence why the disastrous debate took place.

You know, you don't need to get out your way and call all the political thing you don't understand to be the "deep state's" bidding. Most of the times, the simplest explanation is the most accurate. After all, staff members are also human being, thus they can commit mistakes like this one.

To be a strong politician in society or a country, one should be brave, outspoken, and dishonest in telling people sugar-coated words.

Trump has the mentioned qualities of a politician, but Biden on the other hand lacks such qualities. That's why the Democrats are not happy with Biden's performance in that debate. I don't know whether they will get Biden replaced because doesn't seem fit enough to contest the election with Trump. Americans don't need someone who's not agile and softhearted to rule them because they will make them appear weak in the eyes of other world powers.

Comes November election, it will be a hard time for American citizens to choose a dishonest and agile person like Trump or a cool Biden who lacks the willpower to rule the US again because of health challenges.

But it shows that the Deep State has plans to run around anything that Trump might want to do. Or they wouldn't be wasting time on removing Biden.

This debate was organized by the Democrats. They didn't even shoot themselves in the leg, but in the head.

The debate was a tool to remove Biden, cleverly. Can you tell me who came up with the idea for them?

I do not think this is just about the debate. The debate was simply the proof-of-life of the problem that many have been pointing out before. Biden is a great politician and has done a great service defeating Trump, but he cannot fight age like none of us can.

It was already a cause of concern and a point of attack for the Republicans and the fact that Kamala is not popular only made it worse. The debate itself does not change that much, it just makes is irrefutable.

I'm wondering how many people changed their mind after watching debate. I think that still there is huge number of people who would still vote for Biden even knowing his current condition, rather than going for evil Trump.
Debate is place where only Trump can gain something. He just been in this business long enough - he knows how to talk and he says things that people want to hear. And it doesn't even matters that huge part of his words is lie. It matters how he present it, especially when his opponent doesn't looks confident at all.

Keep in mind that unlike those who don't live in the USA, Americans actually know more about the candidates than this one debate. Trump is a convicted criminal and he wants to make abortion illegal. One bad night for Biden isn't going to change that. Voters aren't going to care (anymore than somebody wanting a criminal or wanting abortion to be illegal wouldn't care if Trump had a bad debate).

Biden or any other candidate they will choose, I think the Democrats have lost it at the debate, since the leadership under Trump administration is way far better that what Americans are facing, it quite clear that thet would rather vote the devil they know than the Angel they do not know, if the Democrats were to replace president Joe Biden.

Did you just forget about the corona virus event,  it was used to get Trump out of the office and institute Joe Biden, and now that is almost four years after election, most of Americans have come to realize their mistakes by voting Joe or got disappointed by his performance.

Here in the USA, abortion is a very fundamental issue. This isn't the case in other countries where abortion is legal and they've long since settled this issue.

Besides abortion, the differences between the parties isn't that significant, ideologically speaking. Trump himself promises radical change because he is a criminal, but that's not because of any ideology.

I do not want you to do anything specific.

Yes, Biden needs to make a decision and this is not about one night. I do not think he is senile as such, but as President, if there is one thing you need to do is to be able to talk and do it convincingly.

I am not sure that I understand correctly what exactly you want me to do, and most importantly, why.

Biden's problem is not that he miserably failed the debate and his probability of winning the upcoming election has dropped to 21%, while Trump's has risen to 59% (although this is of course a serious problem for his donors and supporters of the Democratic Party). Biden's problem is that he has rapidly progressing senile dementia or something like that. At the debate, he lost not only and not so much to Trump, but to himself in 2020. Biden is a good and very experienced professional politician, he’s just in extremely bad physical condition and his doctors seem unable to reverse the effects of time on his body and cognitive abilities. It happens.

It is no longer a problem. According to the Supreme Court Ruling the President is mostly immune from prosecution on official acts. I think that Biden should use Putin's modus- operandi - If someone dares to oppose, send him to Siberia until the guy "cools-off" the tantrum.

And it would now be all legal! No problem, no obstacle! And them you can go Trump on the civil service to make sure those pesky Civil Servants do not have so much winning when you ask them to break the law.

I live in Russia, not under a rock. And from the outside, the confrontation between Republicans and Democrats in the United States looks much more fundamental, deeper and larger-scale than the confrontation between opponents and supporters of abortion, as you are trying to imagine here now.

No, it places it under the jurisdiction of state authorities in addition to federal authorities. Congress has passed laws against abortion procedures in the past, and nothing is stopping them from doing so again. Republicans say the "state" thing to make their voters in democrat-controlled feel better, but it's very likely abortion will be made illegal in all 50 states if Trump is elected. We already saw Republicans try to do it this year by trying to outlaw the abortion pill (again, in all 50 states).

It's absolutely crazy to think that a party that has made making abortion illegal a central part of its platform for 50 years is suddenly going to say, "just kidding".

Personally, I would say over half of the Republicans I talk to say, "because abortion" when I ask them why they support Trump. If you don't think abortion is a super-big deal to Republicans you've been living under a rock.

And as I said above, with Republicans sending lawsuits to the federal government like they do now, all Trump would have to do is fail to defend those lawsuits, and abortion would be illegal in all 50 states.


"Top leader of RNC Platform Committee entertained idea of imprisoning women who get abortions, opposes exceptions"

https://www.cnn.com/kfile-ed-martin-rnc-platform-committee-anti-abortion-exceptions/index.html

Well, of course it's a lie. Trump has already won his “victory over abortion” by influencing the Supreme Court decision to which you refer and placing the issue of abortion under the jurisdiction of state authorities. At the same time, Kentucky, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Arizona and North Carolina, where there are restrictions on abortion, have Democratic governors, and half of the US states have no restrictions on abortion. You are trying to make a molehill out of a molehill by making one fairly narrow issue a “key goal” for an entire US political party.

I am not a Trump supporter, I think that he is still a very weak politician (at the same time, Trump today as a politician is much stronger and more experienced than eight years ago, although he is also eight years older), prone to shocking, populism and theatrical gestures. I also think that the Democrats are making a mistake by betting on Biden for the second time, because the current Biden is a pale shadow of the Biden of four years ago. The democrats' motto "they don't change horses in midstream" should be replaced with the old Indian wisdom "if the horse is dead, get off it." My opinion is that the Democrats' winning card would be Michelle Obama as a "proxy president", because Barack Obama has enough political influence and popularity in the US to extend it to his wife and this would be enough for her to win the election. But apparently Michelle herself is not eager to be in the role of a “proxy”, and perhaps it is simply too late for a replacement.

Disclaimer: please do not consider my personal opinion as Russian interference in the US presidential election.

I had not realized it but that actually would explain the effort and the choice of words the leftist media in the United States has chosen for this incoming election, if we assume they are actually that politically disengaged, then the establishments needs to use sentences like "democracy is on the ballot" or go for phrases like this is the "most important election on our lifetime" and also saying this could be "the last election on the USA" if Donald Trump wins. It is like they know there is a percentage of democrats who are disengaged and in normal circumstances would not go out their way to vote in the presidential elections, so they are (seemingly desperately) trying to engage with that sector of the democrat and independent voters so they can somehow do the difference in the main swing states which will in the end decide the presidency.

Also, I could be wrong, but in November the people of the United States are also going to vote on the seats of the congress, if so, it seems kind of weird to me how the media focus so much on the president and gives no attention to either the Senate nor the house of representatives.

That is the impression I got from the debate. That if things don't change, the Republicans will vote for Trump en masse, that he will even convince some of the undecideds and that, on the other hand, there will be a good percentage of Democrats and undecideds who won't get off their asses and vote for Biden.

It's not a lie, it's in Trump's written platform. Also, the Republican stance on abortion for the last 40 years has been, "it's murder". Also, one of the very few things Trump did achieve in his last tenure is overturning Roe v. Wade.

And as we saw with the lawsuit against the abortion pill, Trump could effectively ban abortion nationwide without the approval of Congress by simply refusing to fight these silly lawsuits--and it's hard to imagine an administration that will actively defend what they deem "baby murder". The same will be the case for states locking their citizens in to prevent abortions, or Trump banning Bitcoin because it can be used to pay for illegal abortions.

Banning abortion has been a key Republican goal for decades, even though it's very unpopular. But they can't have it both ways. Trump is lying his ass off to try, but I think voters are a little smarter than that.

You'd think the Democrats aren't lying. Well, for example, this recent verbal attack by Democrats on Republicans, saying “Trump will ban abortion,” which you are broadcasting here. It's a lie.

I can imagine how desperate the Democrats are now if they decided to make abortion a central issue of their election campaign. The United States has been teaching the whole world “correct” democracy for so long that it has distorted the very idea of ​​democracy and brought it to the point of absurdity. Now Americans have to choose between two old pieces of crap, both of whom have already proven themselves untenable as president.

Don't know how real is possibility that Democrats can make last minute change. But if the would do, no matter what they will choose, I feel that would be instant loss. It would be smaller name than Biden and also it would be showing weakness of your whole party - you don't change horses in midstream. I doubt that voters who are still not decided would accept such thing positively.

I'm asking this already since last elections. One of the most powerful countries in the world and best what they can find is these two. One idiot, liar and maybe criminal, other sometimes it feels that he has no idea where he is now and what he is doing. I often complain about politicians in my country, but probably our situation isn't that bad, I feel sorry for Americans who will have to choose between these two.

Voter turnout will be a problem for Trump, too. He's a convicted criminal and he doesn't even try to deny his crimes anymore. He is in no way "conservative" yet he relies on conservative voters. Millions will stay home.

It will be a close election...

I said it before that Trump really prepared to defeat Joe Biden in this coming election, He has started it from their debate to disgrace Joe Biden in the public and is making Joe Biden party to think alternative candidate to replace Joe Biden, and it has made some people to start changing their mind to support Trump and crypto users are supporting him to become the next president of US.

Voter turnout (or lack thereof) is going to be a problem for Biden, forget trying to sway Republicans or fake "independents" (people who accidentally stumble into a local high school on election day after living under a rock for the last year?).

This is shaping to be Hillary 2.0, except more cringy as sequels tend to be. Hillary was at least somewhat coherent on prime time TV.

If you believe Republican lies, then you are going to vote Republican. No new candidate will change that.

No matter what, the election is going to be a close one. The only thing people are debating here is the last 5% of voters who will sway the election one direction or another.

Trump has talked in unintelligible word salad for years and his voters don't care. All Republicans hear is, "he will make abortion illegal" so nothing else matters since that is their policy objective. And most Democrats want abortion to stay legal, so they will vote for Biden regardless as well.

No real chance. Elections are run by states and while states vary in their ID requirements (i.e. what kind of ID you need to produce when you come to vote), it is still a federal crime to vote if you're not eligible (i.e. not a citizen) and as far as I have seen the only real possibility for someone to do this in an election is basically identity theft, a crime as well. It's extremely unlikely for anyone to do this for no tangible benefit, as proven by many years of spreading this conspiracy theory and basically no evidence of it actually happening... let alone to a scale that would matter to the outcome of the election. The total number of election fraud cases is somewhere in the range of less than 10 per million of votes cast, and AFAIK most of those extremely rare instances is not related to immigration at all. For example someone voting by mail on behalf of their dead relative, or a convicted felon voting in a state where they're not eligible to do so.

Perhaps this could be considered to be a little bit of thread derailment from me, but I need to ask you, as a reasonable person you seem to be.
Is there any base there is actually a political plan by the democrat party to use illegal inmigrants to boost their chances in the coming elections, or is it actually a story made up by the Republican party to attack the opposite party ?
I am not an expert, but it would seem to me there is no legal path for an illegal inmigrant to get the right to vote in the United States, so we would be talking about an actual illegal conspiracy by the blue party.
It has been mentioned by Trump himself the past election was also subjected to immigrants and dead people voting, though even channels like Newsmax and Fox have to put a little disclaimer on their broadcast, pointing out they officially recognize the results of the 2020 election and there was no evidence of widespread fraud.

I think Biden's debate "performance" (and the subsequent doomsday clickbait in the media) has turned off a sufficiently large part of the 45% to sink his chances. Democrats are notoriously lazy when it comes to elections. They outnumber Republicans in most swing states to the point where those shouldn't "swing" at all but they latch on to any excuse to not vote.

OTOH thanks to the intertubes we all have attention spans of goldfish so all that really matters is what happens in the last couple of weeks before the election. Maybe some AI-enhanced version of Biden will emerge that will magically energize the millions of "illegals" and dead people who I'm told all vote for Democrats.

Because it's nowhere near as simple as you (and many others) are making it out to be. If Biden dropped out now, Trump would most likely win.

First of all, they would need to replace Biden: with whom? No Democrat in the USA has anything close to the name recognition as Biden (except for Obama, who cannot be president again constitutionally).

Next, the whole party would have to agree on the replacement. In these elections everybody focuses on the 5% of voters who might actually change their mind in the next four months and swing the election. But Biden already has the first 45%--but would some other new candidate?

And while Biden has his issues, Republicans would rev up their media to come after the new candidate--as would Putin and Xi--and hence all kinds of new "revelations" would come to light about the new candidate just like they have for Biden (viz. all of the "Hunter Biden" baloney).

If Biden himself and the people around him were truly thinking 100% exclusively about the good of the country, I don't think they would have an easy decision to make at all.

Donors in the end have a political agenda or reason to donate money to the candidate and that agenda is either way gonna get fulfilled, regardless of the cognitive state of the president, that is what aidees and the handlers are for, in the case of Joe Biden, at least...
Biden does not have a money problem for his campaign, he has accumulated much before this lackluster debate he participated in, the question is whether the democrat party is willing to go and bet all of their political discourse about democracy being in the ballot or not. If democracy is truly at risk, then why go with an adoption like Biden as candidate?
Either Democracy is not truly on the ballot or they(his handlers) believe their work positions are more important than the loss of democracy in the United States.

It is not even nearly as simple as that. There are donors to please and many candidates of the democrats that will jump on Joe if they risking their sits because of a fucked election.

On the money issue, it is much more difficult to convince the democrat supporters to chip in the cash if they see a candidate that does not seem to be able to make a few coherent sentences.

Perhaps that's the loophole that ought to be amended.

I don't trust politicians anyway. Most of them are just the same, just there to enrich themselves with Tax payers' money, and the whole thing just rotates around them just being puppets with the real owners pulling the shots behind the scenes. With the condition Joe Biden is in, anyone can easily see how this happens.

Debate, in debate participants are expected to showcase convincing facts to earn marks or praises, and not delusionary moves as Triumph did during his debate with Biden.

The democrats have a large pool of candidates, several of them governors that have been successful in swing states, are between 50 and 60 and would make very good candidates. It is nearly impossible to recover your public image after a debate like this - even for people who would not ever vote Republican, this may be just to much to bear.

Time for a change. I hope the democrats understand clearly and quickly that ANYONE with a decent background and able to debate can put Trump's lies where they belong and show him as the little Grumpy Grandpa with tales of starts to which he never travelled, glories that he never achieved and promises that he will never make real.

Trump will not foot the bill of his fantasies - the world will - ourselves and our children, if the dems fail to realise.

I haven't looked at the whole thing in a self-contained way, although bitcoin is not mentioned here but they are partially related to bitcoin. And what the current Trump is doing is always childish.

Any that have actually beaten Trump in an election or even a debate? Nope.

Therefore, it’s high time for him to rest, but are there any worthy candidates to replace him?

Will never happen, both sides are too invested in their candidates at this point. Even TIME magazine was making fun of Biden on the front cover.

The time to defeat Trump was in the RNC primary, but without using any expletives, let's just say that his opposition were all.... cats.

Ironically, the destiny of the nation in this case does not seem to be at the reach of the hands of the people of the United States, but rather in the hands of the Biden team and the people who handle Biden. You gotta understand that those who are part of the team of the president do not want to end up losing their jobs, and that is exactly what happens if a new player enters the game and replace Joe.
I don't know about you, but the fact Barack Obama had to come up and defend Biden dating he is okey and he simply had a bad night could be considered a red flag. A strong candidate would not even need to have someone like Obama backing his back... On the other hand, Trump is not in good terms with the former vice president of the party and yet, he has managed to strip the chances of becoming president from Pence himself.

Among the 300 million people of the USA, I am sure there are some people who would feel definitely do a better job than these two would, but personal ambitions will prevail in the end, it seems, instead of what it is the best for the country.

I watched part of the debate and I asked myself, How did the "great" nation end up in such a mess. Out of millions of people across, are those the only two that have the vision to run for presidency or lead the Country?

Not that I am shocked about politicians, but I expected a much worthier challenger from both camps. Biden is done, you can't fight nature. The earlier they accept and rolled out the way forward, the better.

If Biden had a "great" debate and made Trump look like an idiot, as well as a criminal (which he actually did do), would the polls be any different? I don't think so.

Almost all voters have already made up their mind, and for the tiny few who haven't, it will simply depend on their source of news in the next few months.

Put it another way, about one half of the voters know Trump is a criminal and know he bedded two porn stars before the last election while his (nude model) wife was at home with his child. And then he committed multiple felonies in order to cover it up before the election, a crime which, had he not committed, he would have lost the election.

And Republican voters don't care. Trump is promising to make abortion illegal in all 50 states. Nothing else matters to Trump's voters.

So if they don't care about that, then whatever Biden looks like isn't going to matter to them either. Biden could be Abraham Lincoln and Trump's voters wouldn't care--the polls would be exactly where they are.

If Democrats still want Joe Biden to be its presidential candidate, then they have a whole lot of work to do. Currency pro-Democrats news outlets like CNN have started engaging in damage control. They had to show Biden's today's rally in the battleground state of North Carolina where he was full of life. He was fluent and energetic and rejected the call for him to step aside. Biden acknowledged that his age is affecting him negatively but he said he is better than Trump because he is truthful.

Biden still has more opportunities to show Americans that he deserves another four years. After all Barack Obama didn't do well in his first debate but came back smoking in subsequent ones. With his performance in the yesterday's debate, democrats have given Republicans more grounds or points. They will now use this woeful performance to campaign that Biden is not fit to be president. It is also important to state that it will be better to vote for an old man than to give your vote to a liar.

Biden is a weak old man that makes the US look weak. That's harsh, I know, but a weak leader simply makes all of you Americans weak.
Let's put the views aside for a moment. A guy like DeSantis has presence and how a president should look. At least that's how I imagine a US president. He should be young, sharp, talkative, be able to move the crowd, have strength to be at conferences and meetings. Be able to fly around the world and talk to people. He also has a good looking wife

Not a good performance from Biden. Seemed very confused throughout, constantly losing his train of thought in between the rehearsed lines, and bizarre facial expressions with his mouth gaping open.

He needs to step aside even if its a logistical nightmare for the democrats. Perhaps that's why his campaign suggested they have a debate so early. Gives time for an exit strategy for Biden if things didn't go well.

He simply disgraced all Democrats. It seems to me that these debates were a way to besiege the Democrats and bring down their ratings.

I watched the whole debate, not sitting there paying attention all the time, but I put it on my mobile phone, watched it for a while and then kept listening to it while I was doing things. Trump was in his stride and showing much more energy and clarity than Biden, though obviously he's not going to convince many millions of voters who don't buy into him or the policies he plans to make. Biden, however, has been widely acknowledged by all to be unfit, and the best the Democratic party could do is replace him, as has been mentioned, but as I understand it, if he doesn't want to, they won't be able to replace him. Without wishing him any personal ill will, perhaps the best thing that could happen to the Democratic party is that one more of Biden's health problems will force him to resign.

Biden needs to step down or somebody needs to pull him out of this race, it is doing neither him nor the Democrats any good. Regardless of what you think of Trump, the most powerful country in the world can not be led by an old man who doesn’t know what the hell is going on around him.

For Democrats, this is clearly the best option if they want to stay in power. The first black woman president, quite in the spirit of the general agenda.

ps Barack Obama will then have a unique chance to become first lady.

The whole debate was pathetic to be honest. They were both using ad hominem or personal attacks and both do not address what they will actually do for the country if they were elected.

They are dinosaurs who do not need to be running for the candidacy anymore. USA deserves a younger and smarter president than the ones presented to them right now. I just want to say good luck to us citizens. Your only options for president are both bad choices.

I watched the Biden: We finally beat Medicare and Trump says Biden 'doesn't even know what he's saying' videos. So yeah, it's a great achievement that he can even debate.

Yep, but in previous elections, there wasn't any footage of Biden falling from stairs, bikes, etc.

You meant the "Democrat" party, though. Ironically, it is funny considering how anti-democratic the Republican party seems to have gotten in these lastest four years, after Trump got kicked out the office, anyways.
The democrat party is very unlikely to change Biden as their candidate for the presidency, to be honest. As a sample of it, Obama himself has already stepped up and said he completely backs his former boss (Joe Biden) and points out everyone has a bad day and only because Biden did not perform well, does not mean he won't be an able president.

Also, I have seen already some conspiracy theorist to suggest all this is according to plan in order for the party to switch Biden for Michelle Obama, which it would be a even worse pick than Biden. The country is simply not ready to have black woman as president, they were not to have a woman (Hillary), then are ever further from accepting Michelle.

Good question!  It was very important, so he probably was not able to.   It could have been something as simple as not sleeping due to anxiety, but it's too little too late for him.   If Biden wants to see the US continue as a nation, he needs to call in Michelle.

Edit:   be.open - many people think the same!   https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/presidential-debate-biden-trump-06-28-24#h_8e4de25037b4d5fb9a426e2fa9c03921

This looks entirely other thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5CVZHAjrW8

Why not before?

I think this is their best bet.   Biden froze and was reactive instead of proactive.   Half the country is willing to accept dishonesty in their faith - revolution is near.


Elderly people like to turn up the thermostat. 

If Trump wins, he is cranking that thing way up.

I even doubt whether the Democratic Party wants to lose the next election.

I didn't think the debate would change anything before the it happened and I don't think it will now.

Biden is old, and everybody knows that.

Trump is a criminal, and everybody knows that.

Biden will win because he's not Trump, not because he's superman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqG96G8YdcE

As far as I concern, none of these two individuals should be allowed to run for President, nor, for that matter, be allowed to run anything bigger than a Laundry shop and that under supervision.

They are both in a terrible state of health, both show all the signs of ageing people - it may look more evident in Biden's voice, but it shows also in Trump's continues "Hyperbolic Grampa" tales of glory ..." like the world has never seen".

A major problem is the inability to at least agree on the basic facts. Trump did not debate much in way of ideas and Biden fails to engage and underwhelms.

No matter who wins this he's going to be the oldest US president anyway. At least now they can say they'll be the best in something late this year.

I liked how Joe needed help to leave the studio. He can barely walk. Sure Trump is old but this is geriatric level.

Joe did much worse in the debate. Haven't watched the whole thing, but I had it running while i was doing chores and working and he seemed confused. Just look at his unnatural expressions he looks straight all the time like he's watching something in the far distance. Look how slow his reactions are. For instance when he wants to cough, he knows he should cover his mouth but by the time he can lift the hand he does all the coughing. It's like the arm needs a few seconds to do its thing after it gets information from the brain.

Let's end with one of those presidential level insults:

Trump: lets not be childish here.
Biden: you are a child!

I have the impression that the Democratic Party is faced with two options: either to continue with Biden and risk losing the election, or to urgently change candidates.

According to "Dr." Jill, it was great that Joe Biden answered every question....Such a low bar lol

Funny debate, two elderly people are standing and arguing, they should feed the ducks in the park, and not row money 

No mention for Bitcoin by the inteviewer, No mention for crypto sector. An economic sector totally forgotten.

The best important things is what Trump say in reunion with the principal mining society. All the mining production in FL

I haven't watched the debate yet. Did they mention Bitcoin?

Democrats still have a chance to remove Biden from the election and replace him with Michelle Obama. I think that’s why they organized this debate, to assess the degree of Biden’s overall physical readiness.

If he can not stay focus and stand focus on the debate then he is only acting sentimental with Trump.
Time to let him know the US needed a capacity leader who is in and out fitted to speak and stand for the people and not like running a personal goal of interests.

Although I am not following the news up but before this day we all know Trump is more agile and fitted than Biden.

I consolidate with Biden because if election is being won based on how active and efficient correspondence of participants may be to the public, of course Trump would silent his carrier. Lol

I had to stop watching.   Joe is losing it; he is reacting to Trump's lies instead of leading the debate.   Nobody watching the debate is suddenly going to suddenly realize Trump is dishonest.