The dow will hit 30k before it falls below 10k again.

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Quote from: spazzdla on December 10, 2014, 09:59:54 AM

Quote from: Fabrizio89 on December 10, 2014, 09:10:45 AM

I still think we are at the top of this bull cycle, soon the us market will crash like happened before but this time could really hurt since we are indeed in dark times. This event will take place in the same period when is announced/discovered that the FED is still printing dollars, instead of having stopped qe like promised.

I do not forsee QE ever stopping. They will put negative interest rates in place 99.9% of the population will be tricked by CNN etc explaining to them why it is such an amazing idea.

I am still bull on 30k down to 6-9k.

QE is definitely good for bitcoin. As long as the dollar gets devalued, all other asset classes (including bitcoin) benefit in terms of price.

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Quote from: Fabrizio89 on December 10, 2014, 09:10:45 AM

I still think we are at the top of this bull cycle, soon the us market will crash like happened before but this time could really hurt since we are indeed in dark times. This event will take place in the same period when is announced/discovered that the FED is still printing dollars, instead of having stopped qe like promised.

I do not forsee QE ever stopping. They will put negative interest rates in place 99.9% of the population will be tricked by CNN etc explaining to them why it is such an amazing idea.

I am still bull on 30k down to 6-9k.

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I still think we are at the top of this bull cycle, soon the us market will crash like happened before but this time could really hurt since we are indeed in dark times. This event will take place in the same period when is announced/discovered that the FED is still printing dollars, instead of having stopped qe like promised.

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it will only be 80 if measured using bitcoin Grin

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OP is right, plunge protection teams make sure that this pyramid does not collapse. Naturally this asset bubble will make sure that savings and working income are worth less and less, but hey, slavery is what fiat money is all about! Sad

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Quote from: spazzdla on November 04, 2014, 08:48:07 AM

Quote from: worle1bm on November 03, 2014, 10:45:31 PM

Yeah, this is a random unsupported post. Why would the DOW do this?

The FED's and Gov's fetish with driving it up to insane levels...

I was just going from it's value in the 90's till now.. It's the ultimate bubble ride, I think they will pump it to 30k then it will collapse to 10k ish then pump again to 100k ish and so on and so forth.

I would gander when the down goes from 30k to 10k in less than 30 mintues and the FED, etc shutdown all the markets again bitcoin will make nov 2013 look like a speed bump.

I am just going from chart's I have seen and gut feelings.... Just random speculation no facts or ne thing.

I do not know if it will go as high as 30k but the 20k's are possible. Does not mean we won't see a sharp correction beforehand. Unfortunately or fortunately (depending of your preferences) this stock market bubble could be the last one as a massive multi decades credit cycle comes to an end.

I agree, especially with the lack of additional QE. A rise to dow going to 30k would almost be a doubling of the price which I do not think is very realistic

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Quote from: cbeast on October 31, 2014, 01:47:37 PM

80% agree. It's hard to say what the magic number will be, but USA has unequaled power of denial.

The denial is backed by real military might and printing press.

Illusion can become reality if one is strong.

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Quote from: worle1bm on November 03, 2014, 10:45:31 PM

Yeah, this is a random unsupported post. Why would the DOW do this?

The FED's and Gov's fetish with driving it up to insane levels...

I was just going from it's value in the 90's till now.. It's the ultimate bubble ride, I think they will pump it to 30k then it will collapse to 10k ish then pump again to 100k ish and so on and so forth.

I would gander when the down goes from 30k to 10k in less than 30 mintues and the FED, etc shutdown all the markets again bitcoin will make nov 2013 look like a speed bump.

I am just going from chart's I have seen and gut feelings.... Just random speculation no facts or ne thing.

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Quote from: worle1bm on November 04, 2014, 12:59:48 AM

Quote from: cbeast on November 03, 2014, 11:54:42 PM

Quote from: worle1bm on November 03, 2014, 11:38:51 PM

Unsupported because making random predictions is just that; random. Why would the market act this way? What is the causation, how can it be predicted, why does it benefit BTC? This is mindless posting, nothing of value.

Maybe you don't remember 2008? The bubble was growing much slower then than now. Unsustainable growth is the predicted cause. Maybe the OP is wrong, but I would hardly call it random.

What bubble? Demonstrate some facts and evidence to support a conclusion. Maybe the OP isn't offering anything except random ideas, and that's not useful to this community. Offer some well thought-out predictions using the available information. Advance the conversation rather than "Well things are going to happen maybe sometime or not!"

What evidence would you accept as a reasonable indicator of a bubble soon to collapse?

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Quote from: cbeast on November 03, 2014, 11:54:42 PM

Quote from: worle1bm on November 03, 2014, 11:38:51 PM

Unsupported because making random predictions is just that; random. Why would the market act this way? What is the causation, how can it be predicted, why does it benefit BTC? This is mindless posting, nothing of value.

Maybe you don't remember 2008? The bubble was growing much slower then than now. Unsustainable growth is the predicted cause. Maybe the OP is wrong, but I would hardly call it random.

What bubble? Demonstrate some facts and evidence to support a conclusion. Maybe the OP isn't offering anything except random ideas, and that's not useful to this community. Offer some well thought-out predictions using the available information. Advance the conversation rather than "Well things are going to happen maybe sometime or not!"

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Quote from: worle1bm on November 03, 2014, 11:38:51 PM

Quote from: cbeast on November 03, 2014, 10:55:25 PM

Quote from: worle1bm on November 03, 2014, 10:45:31 PM

Yeah, this is a random unsupported post. Why would the DOW do this?

Unsupported because stock markets never crash?

Unsupported because making random predictions is just that; random. Why would the market act this way? What is the causation, how can it be predicted, why does it benefit BTC? This is mindless posting, nothing of value.

Maybe you don't remember 2008? The bubble was growing much slower then than now. Unsustainable growth is the predicted cause. Maybe the OP is wrong, but I would hardly call it random.

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Quote from: cbeast on November 03, 2014, 10:55:25 PM

Quote from: worle1bm on November 03, 2014, 10:45:31 PM

Yeah, this is a random unsupported post. Why would the DOW do this?

Unsupported because stock markets never crash?

Unsupported because making random predictions is just that; random. Why would the market act this way? What is the causation, how can it be predicted, why does it benefit BTC? This is mindless posting, nothing of value.

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Quote from: worle1bm on November 03, 2014, 10:45:31 PM

Yeah, this is a random unsupported post. Why would the DOW do this?

Unsupported because stock markets never crash?

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Yeah, this is a random unsupported post. Why would the DOW do this?

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Quote from: Q7 on November 01, 2014, 03:56:19 AM

No doubt. Else how do you explain why there are so many rich who practically has money come falling down from the sky for doing almost nothing.

Because they got their rich grandpa owned slaves 60 years ago.. He made the slaves worked for his cotton farm and became rich through it.

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I think the DOW is already positioned for a massive correction. 30K is way higher than I expect it to go before the crash. I'd guess at or before 20K

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With the dollar being this strong you really think we will see stocks rising? If the FED begins a new QE soon, then I'm of the same opinion, but I think they want to play this card for a bit of time and the market won't be so patient.

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Quote from: spazzdla on October 31, 2014, 01:26:34 PM

Calling it now.

Expect PM's, cryptos to continue to fall until then.

I'm betting Bitcoin will hit 30k before the Dow. Get out of the Dow while you can.

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No doubt. Else how do you explain why there are so many rich who practically has money come falling down from the sky for doing almost nothing.

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Quote from: Bit N Roll on October 31, 2014, 11:05:05 PM

Quote from: cbeast on October 31, 2014, 01:47:37 PM

80% agree. It's hard to say what the magic number will be, but USA has unequaled power of denial.

Maybe 80% is a little big. A little lower than that maybe.

"In for a penny, in for a pound." Who knows, maybe the DOW will go to 40K with most corporations leveraged 1000:1.

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Quote from: cbeast on October 31, 2014, 01:47:37 PM

80% agree. It's hard to say what the magic number will be, but USA has unequaled power of denial.

Maybe 80% is a little big. A little lower than that maybe.

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Quote from: Robert Paulson on October 31, 2014, 02:04:07 PM

there is no telling when the people realize the emperor has no clothes.
i swear people today are so delusional that its possible that stocks like twitter can continue to have value even if the company declares bankruptcy.

This is what is fueling my belief we will see stupid dumb highs before it crashes again and the banks try to get the goves to save them again.

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there is no telling when the people realize the emperor has no clothes.
i swear people today are so delusional that its possible that stocks like twitter can continue to have value even if the company declares bankruptcy.

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

80% agree. It's hard to say what the magic number will be, but USA has unequaled power of denial.

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Calling it now.

Expect PM's, cryptos to continue to fall until then.

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