Topic: The economic danger of China and Taiwan war (Read 716 times)

The threat of China and Taiwan's war is certainly very possible, Taiwan is never afraid to continue to be sovereign about independence, they do not care about the pressure from China because they feel they have strong support, of course this is a sign of the beginning that the war can occur at any time, it seems they are waiting for each other to war openly because no one wants to start.

I am too scared what is going to happen if the things happen if there is a war between them
Already world is bleeding - due to COVID - Afghan crisis - Russian invasion - inflation and now this thing is blooming on our head.

War is the biggest disaster and can destroy the economy in a short time, countries that are rich and have strong economic strength will experience a very difficult economic recession, this is because the economic sector of production, distribution and consumption will be disrupted, and I believe China will not war vs Taiwan because china's economy is currently very strong and will be destroyed if a war with Taiwan.

China is not yet militarily strong enough to challenge the US.  China has a very large army (because of China's huge population).  

However, the Chinese army has no real combat experience, since China has not taken part in military conflicts.  As a result, there is no certainty that in real combat clashes the Chinese army will show its best and succeed.  

China is a nuclear power.  At the same time, it does not have parity in the number of nuclear warheads with countries such as the United States and the Russian Federation.  

For China, the strategic goal now is not the occupation of Taiwan, but the development of nuclear armed forces to the level of the United States and the Russian Federation.  

If this goal is achieved, then China will become the most powerful state on the globe.

And don’t forget however that Taiwan, little as it may be, has ties and allies across the globe, including a relationship with USA that basically insures them from getting any offensive threats from China, as that would confirm that they are indeed pushing for war, and a stalemate with USA and its allies is not gonna be pretty for everyone because of surprise surprise, Nuclear Holocaust. So this standstill, despite its flimsy nature and the fact that it only ever relies on basic trust and faith, is still one of the only things we got before an extinction-level war ensues. Let’s just hope China releases its chokehold against Taiwan (which is ultimately still a farfetched dream) no matter how improbable, all for the sake of humanity.

Despite being a massive power, China has been unable to take any military action against Taiwan due to the support of the US to the island. This has created a dilemma, with China unable to act and Taiwan unable to declare independence without risking retaliation.
The situation has been further complicated by the fact that Washington has continued to support with military aid to Taiwan , making it difficult for China to make any significant moves that can be considered so risky. Finally, tensions between China and Taiwan remain high, with no clear resolution within the near future.

US economic sanctions hit China hard.  This is due to the fact that China is now experiencing a period of rapid growth of its economy. 

The bans and restrictions against the Chinese company Huawei hit China's pride very hard. 

China is in dire need of the most advanced technologies, including those related to the production of the most modern and innovative microcircuits.  Such microcircuits are now manufactured in Taiwan. 

Does this mean that China will try to annex Taiwanese territory by military force?  In my opinion - no! 

China is a country with 5000 years of history.  The Chinese Communist Party has a multi-year planning horizon.  China is ready to get involved in a serious conflict with the United States and its allies, only if there are guarantees of its complete victory.  There is currently no such guarantee. 

Therefore, in my opinion, we will not see an aggravation of the military-political conflict around Taiwan in the near future.

It's no secret that the Chinese economy is overheated, has a huge debt load, and a lot of other problems. And the Chinese government simply does not know how to solve all these problems. Plus, for China, a much more difficult problem is approaching - "weaning from Western technologies." No matter how much we respect the Chinese economy, which over the past 30 years has made an indescribable breakthrough, but the basis of this breakthrough is TECHNOLOGIES! And I specify - Western.
Now the United States has taken the vector of a strong reduction in the supply of high technologies to China, and moreover, the withdrawal of high-tech industries to other countries.
For Chinese etokonics, this is, if not a collapse, then a guaranteed way back, 50 years ago.
But Taiwan is actually a magic wand that will solve all the problems of China - after all, it is an almost exclusive chip manufacturer for the WHOLE WORLD!
But there is a nuance...
China, used Russia as a guinea pig, and watched as the Kremlin Fuhrer, bravo promises to take Ukraine in a couple of weeks. And he was sure that the West would again turn its eyes away from this war, as in 2008 when Russia attacked Georgia. And this will open the way for China to take over Taiwan! After all, the calculation was to make sure that the West would again "cowardly sit on the sidelines." But it turned out that the Russian terrorist war of 2022 led ... to the UNION OF THE WEST, the STRENGTHENING of NATO, and the development of a strategy for the destruction of such cancerous tumors of the world. Now China is very indignant that Russia did not fulfill its promises, and moreover, it turned the situation around 180 degrees!
And now a Chinese occupation of Taiwan is becoming very unlikely...
Although I do not rule out that Taiwan will be given to China, but with a lot of conditions, a special status that China will be FORCED to comply with. Because in the event of hostilities, the key value of Taiwan for China will simply be destroyed ...

Taiwanese are really enjoying the western culture and it been the major concentration for China to reclaim. The presence of the NATO in China with a huge support supplying ammunition and other war equipments is making it very difficult for China to reclima there lost territory. It is very obvious that this is going to take a very long time for the Chinese government to reclaim Taiwan because of the huge support of the US. This is going to be a long war but it is just too obvious that Taiwan can not be an independent state for too long since the Chinese government would never give up in claiming there lost territory.

Recent researches shows that the economic activity is at risk of disruption from conflict in the Taiwan Strait is more than $1 trillion in the best scenario. The most significant disruption to global economic activity may come from the halt in Taiwan's trade with the world, particularly in semiconductors. The repercussions of such disruption will be seen in key chip consuming sectors such as electronics and computing.
In addition, China considers Taiwan one of its provinces, as it is its most important economic partner in the China Sea region, which China controls almost completely, since it economically controls all the ports of direct countries and spreads war arsenals throughout the region, threatening with constant danger.

It is necessary for China and Taiwan to work for a peaceful solution to their differences. Any dispute would have serious repercussions for the global economy, and it is in the interest of all parties to avoid it. The international community can play a role in encouraging dialogue between the two countries and facilitating a peaceful solution. In short, the world cannot ignore the current crisis between China and Taiwan, and every effort must be made to resolve it peacefully, despite the fact that there are many international parties inciting to fuel the conflict between the two countries.

Taiwan has characteristics similar to those of Ukraine, and perhaps even more privileged.

Under the Taiwan Independence Agreement, the autonomy agreement will end within a short period, and Taiwan is supposed to return to China as a province free of self-rule. These items are very worrying for the Western alliance, since Taiwan enjoys a Western culture and is a tourist destination under many partnership agreements, in addition to its monopoly on some delicate industries such as semiconductors. Taiwan on the other side is China's most important strategic partner with a huge volume of trade exchange.

The battle is about preserving Taiwan's identity to ensure its loyalty. All this is happening without taking into account the Taiwanese themselves.

China has the second world biggest economy after the united States. If war break out between China and Taiwan then this will have greater effects than the war between Russia and Ukraine. It is very certain that the United  States would want to support Taiwan because it is benefiting huge from the country both in resources and economy basis.
This war if it eventually break out it will affect the world entirely because many of the countries of the world depends on China for raw materials and man power for them to meet up with industrialization including to United States.

I already wrote - China is using Russia as a "guinea pig". And apparently, in 2022, Russia, reporting to its older brother, promised to "create a precedent" that would, in fact, allow China to also, without fear, get Taiwan. The calculation was that the EU /USA/..., as in 2008 with Georgia and in 2014 with Ukraine - the world will silently swallow these terrorist attacks, and accept the idea "great Russia has the right to do so." And then China will also say "we are great, we have the right to do anything with impunity"
But Russia greatly miscalculated, or strongly believed in its fake forces, and as a result, greatly framed China. And now China understands that it will not succeed in seizing Taiwan just like that, and there will be a lot of and very complex problems. That is why China has become less favorable to Russia, and now it does everything only in its own interests, completely ignoring the interests of its raw materials appendage.

If Russia suffers a crushing defeat in the war on the territory of Ukraine, the likelihood of a Chinese attack on Taiwan will also noticeably drop. The Chinese leadership is already behaving much more cautiously, having seen how civilized states have united in helping Ukraine with financial, humanitarian and military support. If the world community had given the same support to Georgia back in 2008, when Russian tanks invaded the territory of this country, then Putin would hardly have dared to attack Ukraine. But even in 2014, when Russia seized the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, as well as parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, the world community reacted very passively, which made it possible for Putin to continue military aggression.

A bit on China's economic woes: "The US has banned high-tech companies from building new factories in China for 10 years. The Biden administration has said US tech companies receiving federal funding will be banned from building 'advanced technology' facilities in China for the next 10 years." years.
The ban is part of a $50 billion plan to develop its own semiconductor industry.
American corporations are demanding more government support to reduce dependence on Chinese manufacturers."

https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-62813956

So Taiwan is also a chip supplier just like Russia, hmm that's interesting but we also can't disregard the importance of china in the world. I think they have more resources which the world relies on when compared to Taiwan and Russia. Imagine if they will be put on sanction, I think you are right that the effect is going to massive than the recent Ukraine-Russian war but many users are saying that china won't fight because they already know what can happen. Not only because they care on other countries but they do care the most of their business. I remember china always wants to become number one but this war can only slows them down.

You could never know what’s going to happen with a nation. I mean from what I am reading they are saying that military is doing or at least on the verge of a coup because of this decision, so there could be a logical reason for them to not invade anywhere and that would be lovely, we wouldn't want a war.

But, the fact that Russia ended up attacking Ukraine and nobody stopped them (even though helped, but not directly) and the worst that happened was sanctions, then we could assume that China could get away with it as well, who knows? That’s why we can never be 100% sure that China won't attack anywhere, there is a chance, high or low, but a chance of them doing it.

I also agree that the ongoing excitement between Taiwan and China is a dire signal for the entire world economy.  In particular, a large part of global trading travels over Taiwan's maritime borders. Moreover, one of the world's most technologically advanced countries Japan will face a terrible situation. Overall the whole world will go through a terrible situation if this war starts so I think the two countries should reconcile before the situation worsens.

I can't imagine the two countries going to war because it would worsen global conditions,
Currently, the war between Russia and Ukraine is still ongoing and has many negative impacts,
at this time it can be said that the global economy is in chaos and this is a difficult condition

They are the number 1 power in the world and want to influence all countries in the world, this confirms their number one position and moreover they are the world's leading arms exporter country since the world since After World War II. It can be said that once there is a war, they are the most profitable country.

It is understandable that the two sides compete for Taiwan, it can be seen that Taiwan is the mainstay of the world's semiconductor industry. Taiwan accounts for more than 50% of the world's semiconductor industry market share and all technological equipment depends on this sector. If anyone holds the field, they are considered the future holder of the world.
In my opinion, whether China will launch an attack on Taiwan will depend a lot on the outcome of the war between Russia and Ukraine.

They are not really "enemies" like USA and Russia has been. I mean they are afraid of each other because they are the polar opposites of each other on politics, one of them is capitalist liberalism, the other is authoritarian communism, so it's literally the exact opposite of each other, but when it comes down to being enemies?

They are not enemies, not in a war type of sense at least, which is good for the world because we shouldn't really be anyone's enemy, the whole world should be in peace, I would rather have a world where military is never needed and long gone and we never need soldiers again, it's a dream world of course but that's an unfortunate thing, wouldn't we all want that?

of course there will be a pretty massive economic impact if the China Mainland and China Taiwan wars occur.. because global chip production still relies on Taiwan and many global companies put their R&D centers in Taiwan, and many other things where Taiwan is the a very strategic country in Asia and the world .. so if this is disturbed, of course it will make a fairly massive economic impact even beyond the war in Ukraine and Russia

If there is a war between China and Taiwan, there will be world economic chaos, China is a country that has a major contribution to the world, in the event of a war, of course the world will be divided into 2 camps that will continue to make aftershocks in a conflict country.

There a reason behind this, USA will not spend a lot of money if they will gain nothing from this.
They have been the strongest country that many countries rely to in return of something, and with this most probably Taiwan will play bigger role for USA and that’s why they will do everything to protect it. Now, with a clear statement from USA, it looks like China wont go for a war because they can’t also afford to have this, they are also struggling economically and with the possible sanctions, they might suffer more.

Hopefully that won't happen, the US and China should not make statements or actions that further stress Taiwan. China not only has great influence in Asia but it can be said, its influence is worldwide. Once war breaks out, the world will be plunged into a terrible crisis and possibly a third world war. I guess the US doesn't want that either because they are also having to strain their brains to deal with Russia, if China breaks out, they will be very distracted, which is not in their favor.  And North Korea, they don't like America very much.

it seems that China just decided to look, or rather watch the real model, using the example of Russian terrorism in relation to Ukraine. China did not say yes or no to Russia, and let the situation develop. Now China understands that the West will not sit idly by, the West has stopped adhering to "avoidance" in dealing with such problems.
China in this situation wins in ANY case
- if Russia wins (this is from the realm of fantasy, and even unscientific), China will get Taiwan, following the steps of Russia (read - the path of a terrorist)

- if Russia loses (and everything goes to this after the defeat of the regular army of the Russian Federation and the recruitment of all sorts of rabble under the auspices of mobilization), China will receive ... RUSSIA. The miserable remnants of Russia will need some sovereign, without this the terrorist country will simply be torn into small pieces.

It seems to me that China's choice is obvious: make a good face, agree and recognize the independence of Taiwan, receive some patronage and support from the United States, and receive Russian territories from the Urals to the eastern outskirts. Maybe Japan will also get its islands occupied by Russia

Even this war between Russia and Ukraine is still not over and it would be crazy if another war were to come,
Currently, global problems are increasingly complex, especially inflation,
hope there will be good news and that's what everyone hopes for

So a nondirect war, fought over the interest of both USA and China, you say? Sound a lot like we switch from the 'proxy wars' since the cold war to another similar to that. But this time, superpowers were holding back not by nukes but by the over-reliant on each other.

If another one hurt, it might hurt you back so don't force a direct war. Kinda true for the Ukraine-Russia war right now which US and NATO didn't intervene with troops but supplied weapons, ammos and intels. A similar war where Taiwan becomes the main battlefield and US & allies stand outside, supplying Taiwan like that against China sound very likely.

The relationship between USA and China is very much more complicated than the one it was between USA and Russia, even in the bad cold-war time.
The fundamental difference is the economic bonds between those two superpowers.
China produces a huge percentage of US goods, and can sell into US territory without tariffs. US sells his debt to the Chinese, being thus able to roll their debut once again.
I would say no one can afford being at war with the other.
OF course, there will be provocations, incidents and skirmishes. But I can't see a real war breaking out.

Some of the wars that are already happening in different countries where not broadcasted to avoid too much collision of other nations. The China and Taiwan War been televised since US been saying that they will provide militars. Hopefully war will not happen and everything should be talk peacefully since it will affect not only this 3 country but more allies will interfere if ever China will react in what US said. There is still war in Russia and Ukraine and hopefully there is no more that will add in the list.

as China have seen the ongoing effects of Russia-Ukraine war, whether on political, social, or economic side of things. i don't think they will make the same mistake of following the path of Russia. if in case they will put themselves in war, the sympathy will be on Taiwan and for sure a lot will help in their own ways to counter China. there's always the possibility for war to happen. but we are already in the age where govt top officials should consider the welfare of their people and not their personal interest. sometimes all they need is to sit down and work their differences and come up with some type of arrangements. we're already out in the barbaric period a long time ago, we don't need to get back in that period.

While there's certainly more tension now between China and Taiwan, I don't think China will go to war over it. China is smart, it's learning from mistakes of others. For years, it's been favoring economic interdependence over military action while being prepared for military action should this option become a more viable one. They can see how terribly wrong Russia's war against Ukraine went: so much isolation and condemnation of Russia, seized international funds, also the fact that despite being a much bigger country with a much bigger military power, Russia failed spectacularly and continues losing in Ukraine, so much that the general mobilization seems like the only way forward. I don't think China wants any of that or is stupid enough to think that the war with Taiwan would go very differently. So, hopefully, the war won't spread like that. If it did, I agree that would mean an even bigger hit on global economy.

How can you be sure that China will not go to war with Taiwan? Are you a foreign minister or an ambassador for the two countries. So you can be very sure just by reading a news without being there. This is a definite thing that cannot be guessed even though there is news, because news writers also make a little summary to contain the news they want and it is not just made up.

So you need to see clearly so that your guess is correct and every news you read you also need to see where the source is, because now there are so many news sites whose contents are incomplete so that everyone does not have to believe it immediately after reading it.

What you say is not part of the NATO treaty. If the USA closed the Binance exchange, of course other Nato member countries would not do the same. Apart from that, Taiwan is not part of the NATO membership. So that Nato will not interfere in the affairs of war openly with China.

It seems that the topic of Taiwan may become irrelevant
Something is happening in China
Troops are massively transferred to Beijing, a column 80 km long was seen. There are massive rumors on Twitter about a military coup in China and Xi's early resignation from office. There are a lot of these posts and from different publications / media as well.
Moreover, China has canceled more than 6,000 (!) domestic and international flights. All tickets sold by high-speed rail are suspended. Rail traffic is completely suspended until further notice.

I'm sure the potential for the Chinese vs Taiwan War is very small, China will not dare to invasion to Taiwan because he knows Taiwan has strong international support, especially the countries around China are USA allies, and of course China will be very loss because money and investment abroad can be frozen.

To be brief - "China is ready to promote strong and sustainable relations with NATO - Chinese Foreign Minister."
It is foolish to think that China will destroy the ties with the United States with its own hands, which essentially support the entire economy of China. Taiwan, of course, causes a chasotok between the big toes of the Chinese government But against the backdrop of growing internal economic problems, China will not risk the global destruction of the economy by US sanctions, which will clearly be in the event of aggression against Taiwan. China is not such idiots as the Kremlin crazy Nazis

What they sent doesn't matter, the power resides when you are winning and right now Ukraine has stopped defending and started attacking which means something must be going alright for them. What is the point of giving thousands of tanks, thousands of planes, thousands of missiles when you would only anger Russia? Give "just enough" and let the Ukraine win the war one way or another that’s the aim.

I understand that west has enough weapons to destroy Russia in a single day, they really would, just thousands of planes dropping thousands of bombs in a single day would already make them suffer and go back. BUT in that case, how can you guarantee that Putin won't go mad and nuke everywhere? That’s the trouble.

That is the result of USA not investing in the right places. They could build 10 chip factories with just one years worth of military budget, they have like 800 billion per year, which means 80 billion is more than enough to not only build the factory, but get the resources and even hire the most famous people who could.

It may not be working perfectly right now, because it takes years to develop great stuff, but they could at least give it a start. What I do not understand is that some stuff are obvious and it is going to happen, but every nation gets into them too late, why not get ready beforehand, get ready when the tech is available, so you would be doing fine when the time comes.

Yeah, yeah, what has NATO sent to Ukraine? 20 PHZ2000 and 18 Himars? Out of 350 and one thousand? 100 field guns out of thousands?
Zero tanks out of god know how many, zero planes out of 12 000?

You're thinking that a military budget that just in case the US is half the size of the entire GDP if Russia will be unable to cover the losses?
Get your head out of Russian propaganda, it's not a nice place to be in!


You know which is the only capital of the world that is situated 50 meters below sea level? It's Moskva! 


Pelosi visited Armenia, not Azerbaijan, at least get the sides of the conflict right!

People should think first about the most important thing, what has China to gain from invading Taiwan?
Almost zero, if you think of chip manufacturers, then a small surprise for you, both TSMC and Samsung depend on ASML for their process, which is a dutch company. No ASML, no lithography no chips. 

They will get a few bombed plants, 20 million people that will hate them forever, and lose 70% of their export market, for, what?

On the near side of Russia, there is a war going on but not on TV news. Azerbaijan vs Armenia. Pelosi also visited Azerbaijan after a massive attack on Armenia where almost 200 people I believe were dead. The war was also about the contested border region which is Nagornokaraba.

China vs Taiwan tension I guess is dying despite US ships passing thru Taiwan straight, China didn't engage.
If war erupts, Asia will really be disturbed. China has more influence and economic disaster will affect all its surroundings.

Despite its huge population and stable economy, China can't simply afford to wage a major war. Human life has become more precious, as the Russians have just found out. Many of the families have just one child each nowadays and they don't want to sacrifice their children in needless wars. And in China, the situation is more exacerbated as a result of the one-child policy. An invasion of Taiwan will cost China millions of lives and there is no way the country can afford that. It was possible in the 20th century, but definitely not in the 21st century.

The economic effects of a conflict between China and Taiwan are shown by the following example. If a conflict ever breaks out, we already know that the US will really lose out to China in the semiconductor business. As no trade will happen. This will have a significant impact on Western domestic markets, causing previously unanticipated increases in inflation and shortages.

Well, strictly speaking.... USA and China are already at war, with the financial & military support that they are giving to the Ukraine and Russia on both sides.  They do not have feet on the ground, but they are funding the war and also giving specialist support on the military side. 

The Taiwanese involvement will be more direct... so it will be officially seen as a direct influence in that conflict. It will send the global financial markets into a downward spiral and Crypto currencies will also feel the influence of that. 

When Russia was planning to invade Ukraine majority of us felt this invasion would never happen. Even Ukraine was not prepared for the invasion because it felt Russia would be scared of its allies, but the world is now suffering from the invasion. China is not a democratic nation that has a functional parliament that can deliberate on the policies and programs of the executive arm. There is also no viable opposition party that can oppose the policies of the Communist Party of China. Just like Putin, Xi Jinping has the power to declare because he is a despot and has no opposition.

The United States and its allies must make China understand that Taiwan would not be treated like Ukraine where none of its allies' troops are fighting.   Joe Biden made such a remarkable move when he stated that US troops would protect the Taiwanese territory.

Economically the world would suffer because Taiwan is one of the leading economies in Asia. The world is suffering from a shortage of gas, oil, and agricultural products because of the Russian invasion but China's invasion of Taiwan would lead to a shortage of technological and electronic parts and products. The would be an increase in the prices of electronics and communication products.        

Should remember that China is considered the world's factory, any ban on China means it will hurt the whole world, not just the US. If war breaks out, I think the world economy will be much more devastating than what Russia and Ukraine caused.

China, Russia and India are having a close relationship with each other, I believe that these 3 countries will create a new extreme in the future to balance the world, the world is no longer just playing by US rules and EU. The rise of these three countries is unstoppable.

Doubt China learn from Russia's mistake in their invasion of Ukraine. Worse, it could give China a case to study how the whole world is very fractured and divided. Sure, Ukraine got the support from US and Nato allies but only in non-direct ways like weapons, tanks, ammos,... but no troops whatsoever. This might be a lesson for China if they want to invade Taiwan since Taiwan is an island, if China could surround the Taiwan island and blockable all the incoming supplies from the US and its allies, stall enough time, you know.

Of course, if US and allies are willing to commit their troops to protect Taiwan island then this plan of China is not working, not enough in any way. A lot of things need to be considered here.

Let me put it this way, USA supplied Ukraine with 1/10th of their yearly budget, and it has worked wonders and Ukraine has managed to push off Russia already, and that is literally just 1/10th of their budget, probably less. They sent about 40 billion dollars worth of military stuff, and around 40 billion dollars worth of cash or equal stuff, like to buy these things or food or shelter or clothes etc for people, and they have 800 billion dollars budget for military each year.

So, imagine the scenario where Russia and USA goes against each other. Obviously it would be horrible due to nuclear weapons that will destroy the world, but if we remove nuclear weapons, Russia would fall within just a few months, if 40 billion sends Russians back, think of 800 billion per year could do to them.

That's what my fear is! China has recovered quite well from the effects of COVID, rather faster than many other countries. At the same time, Taiwan is known for semiconductor and electronics industry. So I won't be surprised if China actually plans to launch attack on Taiwan.

That might start a big war and lead to World War III. US president Joe Biden said that US will stand beside Taiwan if any war happens. So the impact on world economy will be devastating if it happens in reality. Bitcoin may get lucky among this turmoil.

I don't think Xi is dumb enough to strike Taiwan currently when the world economy is heading towards recession. China could actually end up losing more when compared to Taiwan just like the Russia-Ukraine situation.

The Chinese government couldn't do jack when US sent over their politicians to Taiwan recently which itself implies that they are not really interested in starting a war with Taiwan.

If you ask me I would say they should take lessons from the war between Russia and Ukraine because in Asia there is the same situation between China and Taiwan, Putin was thinking because of his military power they can defeat Ukine, but they were wrong because of the help from all over the world especially the USA and EU Russia is still facing with some problem and they are under economic sanctions, while in all over the world this war had the negative effect of the world economy, and there in China, they have the same situation and if they start the war we can see the same thing but this time in Asia and China.

Another article spreading fear and panic. Aren't China and Taiwan basically one country(of course Taiwan has big autonomy)?
What would USA gain from a war against China for Taiwan? What would China gain for attacking (and probably occupying Taiwan)?
Both countries won't gain much from such situation. They would lose more than they could potentially gain. It's not worth the risk.
If there's a war between USA and China for Taiwan, nobody would give a damn about Binance and in which countries Binance is banned.

The problem is, we don't know what these top officials of both countries are thinking.
Either they will lower their pride and do what is both beneficial to them.
Or be aggressive and wage war. But we are just hoping that both sides will settle their disagreements and come to a peaceful arrangement.
We don't need more of this action as the world is still in the recovery of the covid pandemic.

This won't be the only dire consequence to the crypto market.
There could be a general decrease in confidence in cryptocurrencies if the market perceives them as being too closely linked to China. This could lead to a sell-off and a sharp decline in prices. A ban on Binance will definitely make Crypto seem like a China's product to an average Joe.


Economic sanctions on China will definitely damage US's economy as well. Will they really consider it tho? I think travel bans and arms embargoes will be the first to be enacted. Arms embargoes can be a cruel one and may lead to direct military conflict with China as the initiator. Things are going to be messy.
Apocalypse soon?

China is the second biggest economy after the United States and if eventually war erupt them it will be a great devastation on China and the US will want to use every possible means to make sure that the Chinese government regret there action and I think this one is going to be completely different from that of Russia and Ukraine.
Looking at the tension between the two countries, China is building up arms and strong holds to make sure that they have different alternatives they can use if eventually the NATO comes against them full.

When they are talking about ww3 speculation it's not at all a shot in the air since most of the times we have to look back what's happening in the world, some of the major countries like Russia, China and India are siding on one side and they are also pressurising small countries like Ukraine directly or indirectly ,how China supported Russia by being neutral Russia will also support China by doing the same if they attack Taiwan and mind it they got the most amount of nuclear weapons as well and it take only one stupid reason and one stupid person to shoot it and start ww3, usa is not gonna back off since they already laid down that there would be consequences , world needs peace 🕊️

I believe you hit the point, China should think if Taiwan is really worth as much as they can lose. I guess China knows that and they will not make a move, but they will not forget it either, that will be like a cloud over Taiwan, as it was until now. So except for big words, something we often come from China, I don't think we will see anything here, at least that would be the best option. Any conflict here can be devastating for the entire world.

China stands high as one among the grown economy. They've got all that is necessary to invade Taiwan. Though they're high in all means, a war against Taiwan will surely make China suffer big decline in its progress. Realising this China might avoid the invasion over Taiwan. The recent truth that caused world Countries suffer is the invasion over Ukraine by Russia.

I would not be so sure about this, when leaders find themselves facing internal problems many times they decide to try to solve them by setting their sights on other countries and cultures, so it's quite possible this is what is happening here and if that is the case then a war between China and Taiwan would be inevitable, this will have devastating effects in a world economy that was very weak already, so it'll most likely send the world directly through a depression, and once there who knows if it'll ever recover.

There is never a war that doesn't have its effect, the war between Russia and Ukraine has already caused great loss of lives, resources, wealth and so much more and definitely of a war ensue between The peoples republic of China an Taiwan there would be Ripple effects felt around the world but there are some corrections I would like you to know first it's about your thoughts on the involvement of binance if a war is to come between the two.

#Binance isn't a company under the ownership of the Chinese government changpeng  Zhao is the CEO of binance and has the right to lead his company any way he wants.

# Binance isn't the only crypto exchange so regardless of their stands if a war happens if there isn't a collective agreement from other exchanges on sanctions binance alone won't do much harm.

I pray it doesn't get To a war, economy would worsen, ties and friendship between countries would break down even before it starts to affect crypto it would have really caused so much damages to citizens of the two countries and the world at large.

The US support to Taiwan makes things more complicated, and China is not just bluffing here because I also heard this about Russia invading Ukraine and guess what, they still push it through and prove to the world that they are not afraid for the sanctions and probably, China also have the same mindset since they are also a big exported of many goods. Let’s just hope that WW3 wont happen because its too dangerous and I’m sure, it’s a battle of nuclear weapon where we all know, can wiped out everything in just a seconds. 

Binance sanctions are the least of your concerns if Taiwan and China get into a war. Taiwan is responsible for a large portion of semiconductor manufacturing and Taiwan will destroy these manufacturing facilities rather than allow China to get their hands on them. Chip shortages would get even worse, not great for the crypto scene nor is it stable for the global economy when the U.S. is in a proxy war with China.


The U.S. is involving themselves indirectly in the Ukrainian war by supplying something like 50 billion USD in direct payments or aid. The U.S. relies on Taiwan for semiconductors. If China starts a conflict, they will get involved through sanctions at the absolute minimum. Sanctions don't just hurt the sanctioned country, they inflict economic damage on both parties.

Crypto is the chance for NATO countries to get out of China's grip if in case China actually wins this economic war. I'm pretty sure they don't wanna use the Digital  Yuan. NATO sanctioning Binance is once again shooting their feet just like this capping Russian gas.

They better just be cautious with what they do next because undoing and lifting sanctions is a sign up desperation. This is why Germany had not lifted sanctions and now they are into deep.

Does binance even stil.have financial relations with China? I thought that's why they moved to Singapore?

A lot of the island nations around that area (Singapore, Taiwan, Bangladesh and Thailand) seem to have better relations with the EU than they do China - diplomatically at least?

Most Chinese laws throttle companies too much in many sectors and a lot leave to either be in Hong Kong or Singapore (I imagine there'll start to be companies moving from Hong Kong too soon to avoid Chinese regulations and protect their business/assets).

One thing of great concern for people all over the world is that there will be thousands of victims and trade losses too. I think Many countries will be affected by the Sino-Taiwan War because a lot of manufacturing is running in that region. The government should set regular payments to these companies and adjust prices and so on. Since this matter is kept under the radar, it makes contact with different countries even more vulnerable.

I don't think it will be a big problem. Binance This is a young research company with great potential and innovation. I think what we need to think about is the economic crisis that will come if this happens and what will happen to Binance if NATO implements zero trading, if that happens, will happen to all of us. But, let's see what really happened first before drawing any conclusions.

How would the forces of NATO and US be weakened if they are not even directly participating in the war anyway? They only send in supplies and arms and that's it. Their soldiers are still in perfect shape and the only ones tiring in this war are the Russian and Ukraine forces. NATO and the US is smart enough to not get caught in the middle of the chaos and just provide their support to their ally from a distance. China knows the repercussions of its actions against Taiwan, and IMO they are just testing how the West would react.

The most important thing in Taiwan are its foundries and its semiconductor manufacturing capabilities. The West and China knows how important this is, and perhaps that is their best interest as to why they want to keep Taiwan close to their sides as much as possible.

war is expensive and everyone will lose especially Taiwan. one drop of bomb to this tiny island and there is nothing to fight for. sure that's not what Taiwan wants. but

is that what China wants?
is that what US wants?
who between them benefits if Taiwan crumbles to the ground?

strange times actually and its like there is no adult in the room to tell both parties not to escalate. if its only the Chip manufacturing industry that US wants, they can also manufacture in US. why don't they do it there? that will benefit them economically.

If it so happens that China go ahead to invade Taiwan, I think the United States is to blame for instigation. I understand that the United States is trying not to be in support of oppression, but the tensions between China and Taiwan has become tenser since the visit Nancy Pelosi against strict warning issued by China that that would be a provocative.  The economic danger if China goes to war with taiwan will be devastating and will affect all other countries of te world that depend on China majorly for some goods.

I hope that China is seeing the mess that Russia has brought upon itself with their war in Ukraine and thinking twice about any sort of invasion. Their economy is spluttering right now and this zero Covid strategy is a diabolical mess. At least in the very short term, until dictator Xi is confirmed again for his third term later this year, there won't be any changes to his strategy. He most likely would want to rebuild broken economic ties because stunted growth makes the CCP look very well again.

 It would be a devastating scenario should China's plans of invading Taiwan be set in motion because Xi Jinping's powerhouse manufacturing sector spans across economies round the world including the US and Europe.

 Trade with Russia before it's invasion of Ukraine by the US was $36b yearly while that with Ukraine was $4b. This doesn't scratch the surface of what the US traded with China which is $656b and that of Taiwan: $114b which includes some of the world's most advanced semi conductors. A possible attack of China to Taiwan will sure be a global depression.

Taiwan who broke out of China in 1949 during the end of china's civil war and believe to be an independent state but China sees differently. I just hope Xi would have a change of mind tho.
 
 

The Dangers of China and Taiwan war



From looking into the war in Taiwan, the dangers of third world war is coming. I read the effect is worse with Russia and Ukraine. USA is not very friendly with China and it is possible that China will close the straits for USA Navy movement in that environment this going to cause US to put sanction against China including trading sanction restriction of Binance.

What effect is coming if Binance is sanctioned to operate in NATO countries.

The possible effect of Taiwan war on Binance exchange I have think of and I believe that US will do everything to cause some negative effect to Chinese if they are in the war with Taiwan by sanction of trading in Binance because China own it. I thought wide about this and go online to search for the information and see that the world economy will be difficult to survive and what will happen to Binance if NATO implement no trade in their country there.

I expect such sanction will drop the volume trading from Binance and tax to Chinese government will reduce from Binance.