It seems to me mining is not profitable by itself anymore. If during ETH era, it could bring 20$ per day, not it's not more than $6
Mining now is not profitable on video cards and FPGAS. Moreover, on FPGAS mining, everything is very bad with payback. Asics are a completely different topic and profit, but this is certainly not a business for home miners with small power consumption limits. Let's wait until the Bitcoin halving, perhaps there will be a demand for mining other coins and on video cards. 
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It seems to me mining is not profitable by itself anymore. If during ETH era, it could bring 20$ per day, not it's not more than $6
Mining is not always profitable.
Mining is probably unprofitable if you're new to the space. To OP, mining profitability depends on various factors like location, and electricity cost per KWH in your location so yes it depends on your country's economy too.
The firm said in its Q2 report that its mining cost was $5.5 million mainly from power purchases, net of credits, which implies a gross margin of 65% and cost of production at around $9,000 to $10,000. Although such numbers referred to the combination of hosting and proprietary mining, the cost of production was somewhat aligned with what Argo disclosed for December 2022.
https://theminermag.com/home/nydig-galaxy-ramp-up-bitcoin-mining-revenue/
I think that large miners with a cost price of 9-14 thousand dollars per bitcoin are doing very well in this market.
Mining is not always profitable.
Mining is probably unprofitable if you're new to the space. To OP, mining profitability depends on various factors like location, and electricity cost per KWH in your location so yes it depends on your country's economy too.
Mining is not always profitable.
Mining is probably unprofitable if you're new to the space. The numerous factors of which you're unaware can result in losses before you even begin. Which are the best miners to buy, how much does electricity cost, where are you going to put them (you can't just turn them on in your house), tax-related factors (i.e., how much must you tax), how much capital you already have (and what can you afford to lose), cost of infrastructure, frequency of powercuts as mentioned, and a lot more that aren't on the top of my head at the moment. 
I am not sure what do you mean by the mining can be affected by the country's economy where I am mining? The whole concept of Bitcoin does not really follow what you are mentioning here. It's just a currency with value based on the volume that is getting traded, the demand and supply in the circulation and few various factors. How can one countries situation can determine whether Bitcoin mining is profitable or not?
Mining doesn't care about volume on Binance!
When you think of mining there are two key elements, the amount of energy you can get and at what price!
These two are based on real-life economics, it doesn't matter if Bitcoin is decentralized or centralized or if SpaceX buys or sells coins, the amount of available energy and the price you can burn it for are the ones that dictate everything.
A second look at those countries in the top 10 list and ask yourself, why is barely anyone mining there?
Because cheap energy doesn't mean a huge amount of them, it doesn't mean stability, it doesn't mean that you an afford the capital needed since, well, the price of miners is in dollars, not shit-currencies that devaluate 50% a year, that the infrastructure is almost non-existent, that powercuts are more frequent than normal times, that there is need for constant bribing and so on!
You are right OP, this is the reason why miners always look for a country where is environmental friendly with low cost of electricity to put up their mining farm so that they can make profit from mining. An unstable country with unstable economy will be a problem to mining because the business will be affected and miners will run at loss. We still have miners that are making profit and enjoying the business and at the same time some miners are also packing up their bags and leaving the business due to some challenges that they are faced with.
I am not sure what do you mean by the mining can be affected by the country's economy where I am mining?
I suggest you reread OP's post and others' posts since most of them can easily answer your question. You are also mixing Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining activity. Honestly, I'm quite confused about your position since your last sentence seems to imply that you know mining can be unprofitable if the cost and profitability are not friendly to miners. 
I am not sure what do you mean by the mining can be affected by the country's economy where I am mining? The whole concept of Bitcoin does not really follow what you are mentioning here. It's just a currency with value based on the volume that is getting traded, the demand and supply in the circulation and few various factors.
So just like any other assets Bitcoin will also get hampered with the economy but ON the Global scale! How can one countries situation can determine whether Bitcoin mining is profitable or not? It supposed to be entire global economy because Bitcoin is decentralized and it changes the value every where and at every corner of the world in similar ratio. Not a dime up and down.
I am not saying this factor is not valid, I am just saying this is about the entire global economic changes. That can affect the raw material required to produce let us say mining equipment, import and export duties if we are buying from the other countries, adding more cost to it OR the electricity within that country. In this way things can be tricky for the miners.
So just like any other assets Bitcoin will also get hampered with the economy but ON the Global scale! How can one countries situation can determine whether Bitcoin mining is profitable or not? It supposed to be entire global economy because Bitcoin is decentralized and it changes the value every where and at every corner of the world in similar ratio. Not a dime up and down.
I am not saying this factor is not valid, I am just saying this is about the entire global economic changes. That can affect the raw material required to produce let us say mining equipment, import and export duties if we are buying from the other countries, adding more cost to it OR the electricity within that country. In this way things can be tricky for the miners.
If you are from a country where there is no such thing as economy friendly its better to avoid any Bitcoin or crypto mining unless you have some money you can spend on electricity but even doing so, your return of investment will take a very long time.
Find out how much you are paying for electricity and use whattomine to do some calculation on how much you will be paying for mining, I believe every Bitcoin miner is available on the whattomine website.
The problem with electricity in my country is instability, the rate is very good but the electricity is so epileptic that it can get you frustrated, I ended up using energy from the sun to mine crypto till date, for someone like me, it's very hard to become a crypto miner here.
Find out how much you are paying for electricity and use whattomine to do some calculation on how much you will be paying for mining, I believe every Bitcoin miner is available on the whattomine website.
The problem with electricity in my country is instability, the rate is very good but the electricity is so epileptic that it can get you frustrated, I ended up using energy from the sun to mine crypto till date, for someone like me, it's very hard to become a crypto miner here.
Named the most profitable countries for mining bitcoin (BTC)
The Best and Worst Countries for Bitcoin Mining
The top 10 countries where BTC mining is the most profitable due to low household electricity costs are predominantly in Asia and Africa: Lebanon ($266.02), Iran ($532.04), Syria ($1330.1), Ethiopia ($1596.12), Sudan ($2128.17), Libya ($2660.21), Kyrgyzstan ($2660.21), Angola ($3724.29), Zimbabwe ($3990.31) and Bhutan ($4256.33).
It is unprofitable to mine bitcoin in 82 countries. Italy ($208,560.33), Austria ($184,352.44), Belgium ($172,381.50), Denmark ($166,795.06) are in the top 10 most expensive countries with the highest electricity costs for households when mining one BTC. ), Germany ($163,336.79), Ireland ($159,612.50), Lithuania ($152,163.92), Netherlands ($137,798.79), UK ($130,616.23) and Cayman Islands ($128,222.04) .
The Best and Worst Countries for Bitcoin Mining
The top 10 countries where BTC mining is the most profitable due to low household electricity costs are predominantly in Asia and Africa: Lebanon ($266.02), Iran ($532.04), Syria ($1330.1), Ethiopia ($1596.12), Sudan ($2128.17), Libya ($2660.21), Kyrgyzstan ($2660.21), Angola ($3724.29), Zimbabwe ($3990.31) and Bhutan ($4256.33).
It is unprofitable to mine bitcoin in 82 countries. Italy ($208,560.33), Austria ($184,352.44), Belgium ($172,381.50), Denmark ($166,795.06) are in the top 10 most expensive countries with the highest electricity costs for households when mining one BTC. ), Germany ($163,336.79), Ireland ($159,612.50), Lithuania ($152,163.92), Netherlands ($137,798.79), UK ($130,616.23) and Cayman Islands ($128,222.04) .
Before choosing to start mining bitcoins, it is good to consider the economy of your country and the state that it is in before you decide to either invest in mining or just buy and keep bitcoins.
In an unstable economy, the cost of things is not stable, and they can easily hike and affect your ability to continue in mining especially when you are new to it. The cost of electricity which is very important factor for mining can easily go higher in an unstable economy that it begins to affect mining activities and make profit reduce. As the cost of electricity increases, the cost of maintenance also increases.
In an unstable economy that is already performing bad also, there will be hardship and more people will become more likely to turn to crime. If you were running your mining activity in such an environment, your safety is questionable because you can be robbed, and your equipment stolen.
Knowing and understanding the state of your country's economy will help you to decide whether to go into mining or just buy and keep bitcoins. Mining is not always profitable.
example from Russia for minersIn an unstable economy, the cost of things is not stable, and they can easily hike and affect your ability to continue in mining especially when you are new to it. The cost of electricity which is very important factor for mining can easily go higher in an unstable economy that it begins to affect mining activities and make profit reduce. As the cost of electricity increases, the cost of maintenance also increases.
In an unstable economy that is already performing bad also, there will be hardship and more people will become more likely to turn to crime. If you were running your mining activity in such an environment, your safety is questionable because you can be robbed, and your equipment stolen.
Knowing and understanding the state of your country's economy will help you to decide whether to go into mining or just buy and keep bitcoins. Mining is not always profitable.
1$ = 100 rubles
Miners have a profit in dollars, and they pay for electricity in rubles. Thanks to the high price of the dollar, the cost of a kilowatt fell to 4 cents.
The economic situation just helps miners to reduce 15-20% of electricity costs.
In the EU, it's the other way round: mining has been becoming more and more unprofitable since the sanctions have been introduced. In the last couple of years, electricity prices have skyrocketed 100% or even more in many EU countries:
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Key findings about energy prices in Europe:
From the first half of 2021 to October 2022, household electricity prices had risen 114% on average.
In the same period, the household gas prices had risen 214% on average.
Estonia had experienced the steepest increase in energy prices overall with household prices for electricity and natural gas rising 323% and 559% respectively.
From the first half of 2021 to October 2022, household electricity prices had risen 114% on average.
In the same period, the household gas prices had risen 214% on average.
Estonia had experienced the steepest increase in energy prices overall with household prices for electricity and natural gas rising 323% and 559% respectively.
Source: https://www.greenmatch.co.uk/blog/energy-prices-europe
So, the Europeans are paying the so called "war tax" which was introduced without asking for their approval.
In fact, in most scenarios, mining is unprofitable. You either need very cheap electricity or huge scale of operation and latest hardware (or both) to become profitable.
Now in many countries electricity is getting more expensive due to inflation or sanctions against Russia and ban on Russia's fossils.
If mining was unprofitable for most miners they would just pack up their gears and stop mining, because they are doing so for profits, that's before we can talk about the part of protecting the network, it is the profits that gives them the incentives to do it.Now in many countries electricity is getting more expensive due to inflation or sanctions against Russia and ban on Russia's fossils.
Cheap electricity has always been important for miners, and surely the latest gears too, miners consider these things and how they can make profits before going into the business, they also join mining pools and contribute their own hashrate if they can't solely generate enough to compete for blocks and make profits.
Before choosing to start mining bitcoins, it is good to consider the economy of your country and the state that it is in before you decide to either invest in mining or just buy and keep bitcoins.
In an unstable economy, the cost of things is not stable, and they can easily hike and affect your ability to continue in mining especially when you are new to it. The cost of electricity which is very important factor for mining can easily go higher in an unstable economy that it begins to affect mining activities and make profit reduce. As the cost of electricity increases, the cost of maintenance also increases.
In an unstable economy that is already performing bad also, there will be hardship and more people will become more likely to turn to crime. If you were running your mining activity in such an environment, your safety is questionable because you can be robbed, and your equipment stolen.
Knowing and understanding the state of your country's economy will help you to decide whether to go into mining or just buy and keep bitcoins. Mining is not always profitable.
example from Russia for minersIn an unstable economy, the cost of things is not stable, and they can easily hike and affect your ability to continue in mining especially when you are new to it. The cost of electricity which is very important factor for mining can easily go higher in an unstable economy that it begins to affect mining activities and make profit reduce. As the cost of electricity increases, the cost of maintenance also increases.
In an unstable economy that is already performing bad also, there will be hardship and more people will become more likely to turn to crime. If you were running your mining activity in such an environment, your safety is questionable because you can be robbed, and your equipment stolen.
Knowing and understanding the state of your country's economy will help you to decide whether to go into mining or just buy and keep bitcoins. Mining is not always profitable.
1$ = 100 rubles
Miners have a profit in dollars, and they pay for electricity in rubles. Thanks to the high price of the dollar, the cost of a kilowatt fell to 4 cents.
The economic situation just helps miners to reduce 15-20% of electricity costs.
The price of components and energy costs are the main things to look for before starting mining. And maintenance needs to be taken care of too. So an unstable economy will have a significant impact on mining profit or in order to continue it. But if you are already doing it and making a good profit, then you can fight the unstable economy/inflation. There are places where this is the main problem. The cost won't let you start or the profit you make won't be able to keep up with the cost.
In situations like this, we are better off just buying and HODLing for a longer period of time. It only costs the value of how much you want to buy. Why go through all the complications when you can just buy, sit back and watch?
In situations like this, we are better off just buying and HODLing for a longer period of time. It only costs the value of how much you want to buy. Why go through all the complications when you can just buy, sit back and watch?
Mining is only profitable with solar, wind, gas flare as a source of powering the mining rig. Electricity bill will drive you out of business especially if it is not done on an industrial scale.
Do you have any sources on this? As far as I can remember, most suggestions related to mining do assume that users have cheap access to electricity, but not limited to renewable energy. Renewable energy does have some benefits and miners might profit more from it in the long run, but the cost to build one or gain access to it is quite difficult. 
Mining is only profitable with solar, wind, gas flare as a source of powering the mining rig. Electricity bill will drive you out of business especially if it is not done on an industrial scale. Individual miners may not be able to afford the equipment and space needed for mining. For me, there are several reasons why mining is increasingly becoming unprofitable and the first reason is that the bitcoin network hashrate has nearly doubled in the last year and is rapidly increasing. Secondly, carrying out maintenance on the mining rig also cost money as well. For example, every year old antminers will be surpassed by new and improved antminers. I guess smart miners are already selling off their hardware having had a taste of the rising mining difficulty and an expectation next halving of mining rewards. Lastly, miners lose their mining revenue after each halving.
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Yeah, you are right, because the economic system of the country is what will determine how profitable the mining business can be. The electricity bill in some countries is more expensive, and I believe some people too who do mining on a large scale end up paying tax to the government, and if the tax is high, that means it will really not be a very profitable business in that country, plus the cost of maintenance for one's mining equipment.
It's also crucial to factor in the regulatory environment and potential changes in government policies related to cryptocurrency mining. Sudden shifts in regulations or bans on mining activities can significantly impact your investment and the effectiveness of your operations.
So it's essential to stay informed about evolving legal frameworks so you can make informed decisions about whether to engage in mining, or simply HODL.
So it's essential to stay informed about evolving legal frameworks so you can make informed decisions about whether to engage in mining, or simply HODL.
Before choosing to start mining bitcoins, it is good to consider the economy of your country and the state that it is in before you decide to either invest in mining or just buy and keep bitcoins.
In an unstable economy, the cost of things is not stable, and they can easily hike and affect your ability to continue in mining especially when you are new to it. The cost of electricity which is very important factor for mining can easily go higher in an unstable economy that it begins to affect mining activities and make profit reduce. As the cost of electricity increases, the cost of maintenance also increases.
In an unstable economy that is already performing bad also, there will be hardship and more people will become more likely to turn to crime. If you were running your mining activity in such an environment, your safety is questionable because you can be robbed, and your equipment stolen.
Knowing and understanding the state of your country's economy will help you to decide whether to go into mining or just buy and keep bitcoins. Mining is not always profitable.
In an unstable economy, the cost of things is not stable, and they can easily hike and affect your ability to continue in mining especially when you are new to it. The cost of electricity which is very important factor for mining can easily go higher in an unstable economy that it begins to affect mining activities and make profit reduce. As the cost of electricity increases, the cost of maintenance also increases.
In an unstable economy that is already performing bad also, there will be hardship and more people will become more likely to turn to crime. If you were running your mining activity in such an environment, your safety is questionable because you can be robbed, and your equipment stolen.
Knowing and understanding the state of your country's economy will help you to decide whether to go into mining or just buy and keep bitcoins. Mining is not always profitable.
In fact, in most scenarios, mining is unprofitable. You either need very cheap electricity or huge scale of operation and latest hardware (or both) to become profitable.
Now in many countries electricity is getting more expensive due to inflation or sanctions against Russia and ban on Russia's fossils.
Fact is, one of the major factors that are considered before establishing a mining farm in a location is cost of electricity, environmental freindliness and economic stability in the extend of taxation and bills that are existing I such locations, because mining is like every other business when it expenses exceed it gains the firm may end in bankruptcy.
So indeed economic conditions of the location matters in a great extent, when it comes to mining and more also the governmental behaviour and policy is what drive the sector most, this is because of the amount of policies and tax responsibilities that will be placed on such businesses.
So indeed economic conditions of the location matters in a great extent, when it comes to mining and more also the governmental behaviour and policy is what drive the sector most, this is because of the amount of policies and tax responsibilities that will be placed on such businesses.
Before choosing to start mining bitcoins, it is good to consider the economy of your country and the state that it is in before you decide to either invest in mining or just buy and keep bitcoins.
In an unstable economy, the cost of things is not stable, and they can easily hike and affect your ability to continue in mining especially when you are new to it. The cost of electricity which is very important factor for mining can easily go higher in an unstable economy that it begins to affect mining activities and make profit reduce. As the cost of electricity increases, the cost of maintenance also increases.
In an unstable economy that is already performing bad also, there will be hardship and more people will become more likely to turn to crime. If you were running your mining activity in such an environment, your safety is questionable because you can be robbed, and your equipment stolen.
Knowing and understanding the state of your country's economy will help you to decide whether to go into mining or just buy and keep bitcoins. Mining is not always profitable.
In an unstable economy, the cost of things is not stable, and they can easily hike and affect your ability to continue in mining especially when you are new to it. The cost of electricity which is very important factor for mining can easily go higher in an unstable economy that it begins to affect mining activities and make profit reduce. As the cost of electricity increases, the cost of maintenance also increases.
In an unstable economy that is already performing bad also, there will be hardship and more people will become more likely to turn to crime. If you were running your mining activity in such an environment, your safety is questionable because you can be robbed, and your equipment stolen.
Knowing and understanding the state of your country's economy will help you to decide whether to go into mining or just buy and keep bitcoins. Mining is not always profitable.
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