Topic: The End is near ... Bible fulfillment. (Read 806 times)
Probably the end of the world will be so catastrophic, that after it's over, nobody will be talking about it.
There like a decades of predictions about end of the world for each year. Say me whe this people who really take care about them?
I agree. There are predictions about the end of the world ever year, but look! The world is still here. I’m still a firm believer that we are the master of our own destiny. Just take a look at how technology is progressing to help conserve and preserve life. With the advancement of science and medicine, AI, blockchain etc… We really can have control over our future. Do you agree?
Seems to me that anything that you hear in the news has a big element of sensationalism in it, just to sell copy. But the more we find out about history, the more history shows us that the Bible is an accurate record.
Only when the time has passed that unfulfilled Bible prophesy cannot be fulfilled any long... only then will we know if the Bible is telling the truth from a real standpoint. But there isn't going to be any time to wait around and find out.
The very interesting thing about this is the "we." There isn't any "we" regarding Bible prophesy. Bible prophesy is meant for each individual. Saying "we" when talking about the Bible, is like turning it into a form of virtual reality. But the things that actually happen to us aren't virtual at all. Rather they are real. Just ask all the old folks in the nursing homes and hospitals, who will be dead in a few days, weeks, or months from now.
Only when the time has passed that unfulfilled Bible prophesy cannot be fulfilled any long... only then will we know if the Bible is telling the truth from a real standpoint. But there isn't going to be any time to wait around and find out.
The very interesting thing about this is the "we." There isn't any "we" regarding Bible prophesy. Bible prophesy is meant for each individual. Saying "we" when talking about the Bible, is like turning it into a form of virtual reality. But the things that actually happen to us aren't virtual at all. Rather they are real. Just ask all the old folks in the nursing homes and hospitals, who will be dead in a few days, weeks, or months from now.
Don't we hear "end of the world" news all the time? I think it's just a scare tactic.
Look at this from a practical standpoint. When you die, the end is there for you. You could die later today, or you might live to be well over a hundred. Nobody knows. The idea of suggesting that the end is near only causes false fears to arise.
In a way, I believe in this. Why? Look at what's been happening since 2000. The Mayans believed that the world is going to end by 2000 or something like that. Although it didn't literally end, we've experienced a lot of natural and man-made disasters since then. Terrible summer season, terrorism, climate change. All that and the bible's statement seem to be coming together. So yes, maybe the end really is near. Poor children, they may not even see the future.
To think of it, I fancy the idea that the End is not a single fixed point in time, but rather a continuous period that has all the characteristics described in the Bible / whatever religious book.
Thus, aren`t we living in the End Time?
On the other hand, though, there have been historical periods far worse than the modern time. The End is not nigh, and I doubt it is in foreseeable future.
Thus, aren`t we living in the End Time?
On the other hand, though, there have been historical periods far worse than the modern time. The End is not nigh, and I doubt it is in foreseeable future.
Anyone could simply look for a biblical quote and quote it and use it against just anyone who does not buy their religious style of marketing. religious maniacs and fanatics just go and preach and use the threat of the punishment of hell and the reward of heaven in order to persuade and convert people to their religion or cult if you like. There is really nothing new about it.
There like a decades of predictions about end of the world for each year. Say me whe this people who really take care about them?
Do not wait for the end of the world from day to day.
In different eras, people waited for the end of the world, and it never came. And almost every generation believed that the end of the world was near.
I think we should only think about the end of our own lives, because it will definitely happen to us.
So, live, rejoice, do what you love and do not think about the end of the world.
I think in the bible everything is paradoxical! no need to be taken literally.
In different eras, people waited for the end of the world, and it never came. And almost every generation believed that the end of the world was near.
I think we should only think about the end of our own lives, because it will definitely happen to us.
So, live, rejoice, do what you love and do not think about the end of the world.
I think in the bible everything is paradoxical! no need to be taken literally.
Biblical prophecies about the end abound, the books of Isaiah, Revelation and most importantly the book of Matthew chapter 24 speaks of the signs of the end time. These signs include wars, famines, pestilences, earthquakes, lawlessness etc. All the nations of the earth are experiencing these signs written in the bible. There's no doubt the end is near.
Are you sure?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
Thanks for the link. I hope the apocalypse believers here actually take the time to read them. I can't help but laugh when I read about apocalypse predictions especially those that are based on religion.
It seems every decade a prophecy of an apocalypse is made. It's gonna happen. Not just now. Unless someone pushes a nuclear button tomorrow.
Biblical prophecies about the end abound, the books of Isaiah, Revelation and most importantly the book of Matthew chapter 24 speaks of the signs of the end time. These signs include wars, famines, pestilences, earthquakes, lawlessness etc. All the nations of the earth are experiencing these signs written in the bible. There's no doubt the end is near.
Are you sure?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
Biblical prophecies about the end abound, the books of Isaiah, Revelation and most importantly the book of Matthew chapter 24 speaks of the signs of the end time. These signs include wars, famines, pestilences, earthquakes, lawlessness etc. All the nations of the earth are experiencing these signs written in the bible. There's no doubt the end is near.
No. People have been saying the end is nigh since the dawn of mankind and I wouldn't pay too much attention to the bible. According to the bible you should kill a lot of people for doing very minor things (working on sundays, talking back to your parents, homosexuals, adulterers, non-believers, non-virgins, entire cities if one person there worships the wrong god)
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
I would agree with this. The Bible is best understood metaphorically imo.
with the latest development around the world, it is obvious the end is near, take for instance, America declaration of jerusalem as been the capital of israel, this is a prophecy fulfilled right in our eyes, but a lot of persons are not aware.
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
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According to the bible too, you can have a small tree in flames talking to you; you can kill entire civilizations; you can rape a woman freely; you can kill homosexuals; you can get into fire women and children for god to breathe their "aromas"; you can put all the species into a big ship; you can open the waters; you can actually walk in the water...
So maybe this is time to stop believing this book. I rather prefer to believe in the Lord of the Rings. This is a fantasy that suits me more.
And why not respect others position on this matter?Can you tell us what section are you in,so we might have idea on how we understand you sentiment
Here are 10 signs of the end of the day starting close
1. Children become angry.
In other words, they dare to fight their parents.
They did not hesitate to say harshly and rebuked their parents.
2. Rain can burn. If we analyze it, this has happened. Now acid rain is becoming more frequent.
3. Bad people are scattered on the face of the earth.
4. Traitors are trusted
People will trust those who betray, while people who can be trusted are considered traitors.
5. The Righteous Are Considered Liars
The right person will be considered a liar and someone who tells lies is considered to be the right person.
6. People will break the relationship.
This has happened now where people prefer to stay home and watch television, and they are reluctant to visit neighbors.
7. Hypocrites will rule.
8. Bad people control trade.
9. Mosques are decorated but the human heart has become dirty.
So people who worship in the mosque do not do tazkiyah, even though the mosque is beautiful.
Believers become more insulted than ugly goats.
10. Homosexuality and lesbianism are widespread.
1. Children become angry.
In other words, they dare to fight their parents.
They did not hesitate to say harshly and rebuked their parents.
2. Rain can burn. If we analyze it, this has happened. Now acid rain is becoming more frequent.
3. Bad people are scattered on the face of the earth.
4. Traitors are trusted
People will trust those who betray, while people who can be trusted are considered traitors.
5. The Righteous Are Considered Liars
The right person will be considered a liar and someone who tells lies is considered to be the right person.
6. People will break the relationship.
This has happened now where people prefer to stay home and watch television, and they are reluctant to visit neighbors.
7. Hypocrites will rule.
8. Bad people control trade.
9. Mosques are decorated but the human heart has become dirty.
So people who worship in the mosque do not do tazkiyah, even though the mosque is beautiful.
Believers become more insulted than ugly goats.
10. Homosexuality and lesbianism are widespread.
Luke 21:11: There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.
Ring of Fire MAP: Earthquake BLITZ...
Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/08/no_author/ring-of-fire-map-earthquake-blitz-hits-pacific-triangulation-points-megaquake-fears/.
Ring of Fire MAP: Earthquake BLITZ...
More than 70 earthquakes have rattled the Ring of Fire, a huge swathe of geologically active tectonic plates stretching from South America to Australia via the western United States and East Asia, in the past three days.
First Venezuela was struck by a major 7.3 earthquake last night, with citizens across northern South America and parts of the Caribbean reporting strong shaking.
In Venezuela's picturesque palm tree-dotted northern coast, residents said the long quake was terrifying.
The tremor made residents nauseous, caused lamps to swing and led people to dash into the streets.
The quake was also felt in the capital of Caracas, where residents rushed out of office buildings, as well as in nearby island nations like Trinidad and Tobago, and St. Lucia, to the west and north.
Residents in Trinidad and Tobago shared video online showing some damage to buildings.
Then Vanuatu, located in the western Pacific Ocean was hit by a strong 6.7 magnitude earthquake.
The shallow quake's epicentre was located just a few miles off the northern tip of sparsely populated Ambrym.
First Venezuela was struck by a major 7.3 earthquake last night, with citizens across northern South America and parts of the Caribbean reporting strong shaking.
In Venezuela's picturesque palm tree-dotted northern coast, residents said the long quake was terrifying.
The tremor made residents nauseous, caused lamps to swing and led people to dash into the streets.
The quake was also felt in the capital of Caracas, where residents rushed out of office buildings, as well as in nearby island nations like Trinidad and Tobago, and St. Lucia, to the west and north.
Residents in Trinidad and Tobago shared video online showing some damage to buildings.
Then Vanuatu, located in the western Pacific Ocean was hit by a strong 6.7 magnitude earthquake.
The shallow quake's epicentre was located just a few miles off the northern tip of sparsely populated Ambrym.
Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/08/no_author/ring-of-fire-map-earthquake-blitz-hits-pacific-triangulation-points-megaquake-fears/.
This part of the Bible isn't talking to anybody alive now. It was talking to Ancient Israel up to the time they were destroyed around 70AD. However, it is a good law or rule. It would be good for people to recognize it and voluntarily do it.
No. People have been saying the end is nigh since the dawn of mankind and I wouldn't pay too much attention to the bible. According to the bible you should kill a lot of people for doing very minor things (working on sundays, talking back to your parents, homosexuals, adulterers, non-believers, non-virgins, entire cities if one person there worships the wrong god)
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
Growing up in the 90s, I remember all the apocalypse scare of thee time. Parents even freak out over Pokemons. A decade later it's now parent introducing their kids to the game.
Thing is, whether you believe such things or not, it is clear that such things are supposed to come "like a robber in the night". Insisting you can predict it is pride.
In the 80's it was Dungeons and Dragons
In the 90's it was Pokemon
In the 00's it was Harry Potter
Christians are really scared of... something... not sure what exactly
Christians have been screaming "it is the end times" for 2000 years... this is nothing new
As for Christians being hypocrites and trying to predict the end even though the bible says don't do that... have you seen how many Christians have a tattoo?
Bible prophecies are being fulfilled almost on a daily basis, in fact, the election of Donald Trump as America president tells me that the end is nearer than we think
Growing up in the 90s, I remember all the apocalypse scare of thee time. Parents even freak out over Pokemons. A decade later it's now parent introducing their kids to the game.
Thing is, whether you believe such things or not, it is clear that such things are supposed to come "like a robber in the night". Insisting you can predict it is pride.
Jesus also said:
Matthew 24:34 - "Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."
Jesus promised he would return before the people listening to him died... that obviously did not happen... Jesus lied!
frantically searches for another interpretation
"Oh yes... It's a metaphor!"
No. People have been saying the end is nigh since the dawn of mankind and I wouldn't pay too much attention to the bible. According to the bible you should kill a lot of people for doing very minor things (working on sundays, talking back to your parents, homosexuals, adulterers, non-believers, non-virgins, entire cities if one person there worships the wrong god)
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
Growing up in the 90s, I remember all the apocalypse scare of thee time. Parents even freak out over Pokemons. A decade later it's now parent introducing their kids to the game.
Thing is, whether you believe such things or not, it is clear that such things are supposed to come "like a robber in the night". Insisting you can predict it is pride.
Jesus also said:
Matthew 24:34 - "Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."
Jesus promised he would return before the people listening to him died... that obviously did not happen... Jesus lied!
No. People have been saying the end is nigh since the dawn of mankind and I wouldn't pay too much attention to the bible. According to the bible you should kill a lot of people for doing very minor things (working on sundays, talking back to your parents, homosexuals, adulterers, non-believers, non-virgins, entire cities if one person there worships the wrong god)
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
Growing up in the 90s, I remember all the apocalypse scare of thee time. Parents even freak out over Pokemons. A decade later it's now parent introducing their kids to the game.
Thing is, whether you believe such things or not, it is clear that such things are supposed to come "like a robber in the night". Insisting you can predict it is pride.
If somebody says to you, "Don't eat the apple or you will die," and you agree with him, you won't eat the apple, except if you are suicidal.
According to the bible, God lied:
Genesis 2:16-17 - "And the LORD God commanded him, “You may eat freely from every tree of the garden, but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.”"
Except... neither of them died that day... so, God lied!
According to the bible too, you can have a small tree in flames talking to you
To be fair, this is completely possible...
The type of bush that was "burning" in the bible was the Acacia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia#Toxicity
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Some species of acacia contain psychoactive alkaloids
Burning an Acacia bush would produce airborne psychoactive substances... if you stood downwind from a burning Acacia bush, it would be like tripping on LSD... this totally explains visions of talking to god, etc...
Richard Dawkins - "Science. It works, Bitches."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj3rAJUVrGQ
"Planes fly, cars drive, computers compute... If you base medicine off science, you cure people... If you base the design of planes on science they fly... If you base the design of rockets on science, they reach the moon... It works... bitches"
Everything that has a beginning, has an end. One day or another, the end will come. The real question for me though is to ask ourselves what have we done? Mankind is still young actually. We have 2 thousand years of civilisation. It is nothing compared to the time scale of the universe. But in those years, we manage to understand a lot. From the Greek philosophers to cryptocurrency, we have done a lot. Unfortunately, not enough to save ourselves from the end of times. In this prophecy, nations will leave in peace. This is good. I believe it will happen one day. The end is near but not soon.
Everyday of life, every endings are happening. Yet who knows when will every humans shattered into death when real end comes. I must say, we lacked valid reasons and are still clueless of God's plans afterall. No one knows. But for me, every ending is just near by us, waiting.
The end time is here but trust me there are billions of people who dont and wont believe in it. Even some christian cults said everything will end in this world no heaven or hell. And that God will bring up a paradise where even the latest sinner can enjoy with the righteous. the youth of our time sees knowing God or believing in God let alone the prophesies as old fashion, not for the new generation. This is supposed to be a time of reflection, soberness and returning to God because the signs are obvious the the coming of Christ is at hand and so is that of the Antichrist. If God has said so, It MUST come to pass. and whether men believe it or not will not have any effect as long as the gospel of Christ has covered the earth as started in the Bible.
When God created the Earth for us, he gave us a whole lot of freedom. We could do anything we wanted except for the one law... don't eat of the fruit of the tree in the middle of the Garden. The whole Earth was free for us. But then we accepted the info from the serpent/devil as greater than that of God. By doing this, we made a pact with the devil that we would listen to him and obey his rules. In other words, we gave the Earth over to the ownership of the devil, at least as far as we were concerned.
If the devil had been somebody of little power, things might not be the same as they were. But check out the second half of Ezekiel 28 to see the power that God had given the devil. The devil was able, through our willing obedience of him, to effect great corruption in us at the core of our being. The result is that we no longer have any power on our own to turn from the devil.
The influence of the devil over us is so great that, if we use any of our strength to attempt to even believe in Jesus salvation on our own, we turn the Jesus salvation thing into corruption for ourselves. It is only through the working of the Holy Spirit in our hearts (our core being) that Jesus salvation can be worked in us successfully.
Since our corruption is this deep, and since we don't understand how such deep corruption works and what it does, we barely see why death is necessary for us, so that God can remake us in the New Heavens and the New Earth, where corruption can never happen again.
This whole operation is built on:
1. The gift of God to us so that we have life;
2. The various agreements we make, first with God... to have life, then with the devil to corrupt our life, and then with God again to bring us to His new gift of salvation (even though it is God Who effects this second agreement with Him, in our hearts).
None of this is as simple as you make it sound.
Sorry, if it seemed that I simplified things too much. I'm not the most knowledgeable on the subject. Don't you think that an all-knowing God knew that "we" would partake of the fruit? Couldn't that have been part of His plan? I never heard this wording before: "we made a pact with the devil that we would listen to him and obey his rules". Would you mind giving a scriptural reference for that? Maybe I just missed it. I that that there was no way for us to truly be tempted without having evil on the earth. We need opposing forces, so we can make decisions. If good is all you have, they there's no choice to make.If the devil had been somebody of little power, things might not be the same as they were. But check out the second half of Ezekiel 28 to see the power that God had given the devil. The devil was able, through our willing obedience of him, to effect great corruption in us at the core of our being. The result is that we no longer have any power on our own to turn from the devil.
The influence of the devil over us is so great that, if we use any of our strength to attempt to even believe in Jesus salvation on our own, we turn the Jesus salvation thing into corruption for ourselves. It is only through the working of the Holy Spirit in our hearts (our core being) that Jesus salvation can be worked in us successfully.
Since our corruption is this deep, and since we don't understand how such deep corruption works and what it does, we barely see why death is necessary for us, so that God can remake us in the New Heavens and the New Earth, where corruption can never happen again.
This whole operation is built on:
1. The gift of God to us so that we have life;
2. The various agreements we make, first with God... to have life, then with the devil to corrupt our life, and then with God again to bring us to His new gift of salvation (even though it is God Who effects this second agreement with Him, in our hearts).
None of this is as simple as you make it sound.
The scripture reference is right in the beginning of Genesis... how Eve was tempted to eat the fruit.
God said don't eat the fruit because you will die.
The serpent (the devil talking through it) said you surely won't die.
Genesis 3:1-5:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/niv/genesis/3.htm
1Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”
4“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”
4“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
The problem started when the woman decided to believe the serpent rather than God. The contract was, essentially, "You believed me, so you get what I say." Since the contract with the devil was a lie, the contract was broken, because the woman did not get what the serpent said. But, the woman got what the contract with God said... death.
So, where is the good and where is the evil? The good is that God didn't want man to die. Rather, He wanted a relationship with mankind. But this relationship barely got started when mankind decided to die, and do away with the relationship. That is the evil.
When you look at the second half of Ezekiel 28, you can see the good that God placed in the devil, and the good reason why He made him this way... and how the devil changed himself from good to evil. Then, in John 8:44 we see when the devil started practicing his evil:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/niv/john/8.htm
42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
People don't clearly select who their parents are (even though they might in some unknown way). But we are all the children of Adam and Eve, who became children of the devil for a time... until God rescued them by promising the Savior.
The devil's contract with them was broken, because he didn't fulfill his part of the bargain. And the contract with God was completed by mankind making their choice... to die. The death contract is fulfilled in us, who, like our first parents, die.
The new contract with God is to believe the salvation of Jesus that God set in place. Man didn't have the power to make a new contract, but God did, because He still wanted the relationship. And, part of the new contract is God working the saving faith into the hearts those people who are too weak to reject faith. There is essentially no other way to say it. Strong will is strength against God's working faith in the heart... because the will of man still clings to both the devil's broken contract, and God's fulfilled contract of death.
The point of all this is that we will all rise in the resurrection. God's contract of new life overcomes the old contract of death. But since the contract is made to apply by believing - Eve believed the devil regarding the first contract - it will hold true by believing in God for Jesus salvation in the second contract. Those who don't believe God for the second contract will get a final death, the second death, as talked about in the Revelation. And this second death will be a lot more painful and disastrous than the first death when they put you in the ground.
From Dictionary.com:
Pact - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/pact?s=t:
1. an agreement, covenant, or compact: We made a pact not to argue any more.
2. an agreement or treaty between two or more nations: a pact between Germany and Italy.
Contract - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contract?s=t:
1. an agreement between two or more parties for the doing or not doing of something specified.
2. an agreement enforceable by law.
3. the written form of such an agreement.
Notice the word agreement in both definitions.
If somebody says to you, "Don't eat the apple or you will die," and you agree with him, you won't eat the apple, except if you are suicidal.
If another guy comes along later and says, "You won't die if you eat the apple. Rather, you will become smarter," who knows if you agree with him until you tell us, right? But if you tell us by eating the apple rather than using words, and if you give some apple to your spouse who you love and would never hurt by causing his/her death, aren't you eating because you agreed with what the second guy said?
If neither of the guys ever said anything, who knows what you would do and how you would behave. You might eat the apple. You might not. But, no agreement in force.
But when you don't eat the apple because of what the first guy says, it is because you agree with him (agreement, pact, contract).
Agreement/pact/contract with the first Guy:
Action that showed that the agreement/pact/contract with the second guy was in force:
I think you are making the mistake of thinking that agreement, pact and contract are exact synonyms. Here's what I found on dictionary.com too:Pact - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/pact?s=t:
1. an agreement, covenant, or compact: We made a pact not to argue any more.
2. an agreement or treaty between two or more nations: a pact between Germany and Italy.
Contract - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contract?s=t:
1. an agreement between two or more parties for the doing or not doing of something specified.
2. an agreement enforceable by law.
3. the written form of such an agreement.
Notice the word agreement in both definitions.
If somebody says to you, "Don't eat the apple or you will die," and you agree with him, you won't eat the apple, except if you are suicidal.
If another guy comes along later and says, "You won't die if you eat the apple. Rather, you will become smarter," who knows if you agree with him until you tell us, right? But if you tell us by eating the apple rather than using words, and if you give some apple to your spouse who you love and would never hurt by causing his/her death, aren't you eating because you agreed with what the second guy said?
If neither of the guys ever said anything, who knows what you would do and how you would behave. You might eat the apple. You might not. But, no agreement in force.
But when you don't eat the apple because of what the first guy says, it is because you agree with him (agreement, pact, contract).
Agreement/pact/contract with the first Guy:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/niv/genesis/3.htm
2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”
Action that showed that the agreement/pact/contract with the second guy was in force:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/niv/genesis/3.htm
6When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
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Agreement, bargain, compact, contract all suggest a binding arrangement between two or more parties. Agreement ranges in meaning from mutual understanding to binding obligation. Bargain applies particularly to agreements about buying and selling but also to haggling over terms in an agreement. Compact applies to treaties or alliances between nations or to solemn personal pledges. Contract is used especially in law and business for such agreements as are legally enforceable.
If you say you think Croatia will with the World Cup and I agree. You can say that we came to an agreement inasmuch as we both agreed on the same idea. To me, it seems completely out of place to say that we now have a contract or a pact. Believing something that somebody said does not mean that you have agreed to "listen to him and obey his rules". Sure, you could say you believed him in one thing and decided to do what he suggested you do. There is no scripture that suggests that Eve made any kind of contract to do what Satan wanted her to do in the future. It's one isolated incident.
Thanks for taking the time to explain. I understand that most of what your saying is common Christian doctrine. I still do see the answer to my question though. You previously wrote, "we made a pact with the devil that we would listen to him and obey his rules". How is this a pact? Now you call it a contract with him. I don't see in the scriptures that Eve promised to listen to the devil and obey his rules. She just believed (presumably) what he said and partook of the fruit. Maybe I just don't understand the words pact or contract, but I don't understand otherwise.
From Dictionary.com:
Pact - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/pact?s=t:
1. an agreement, covenant, or compact: We made a pact not to argue any more.
2. an agreement or treaty between two or more nations: a pact between Germany and Italy.
Contract - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contract?s=t:
1. an agreement between two or more parties for the doing or not doing of something specified.
2. an agreement enforceable by law.
3. the written form of such an agreement.
Notice the word agreement in both definitions.
If somebody says to you, "Don't eat the apple or you will die," and you agree with him, you won't eat the apple, except if you are suicidal.
If another guy comes along later and says, "You won't die if you eat the apple. Rather, you will become smarter," who knows if you agree with him until you tell us, right? But if you tell us by eating the apple rather than using words, and if you give some apple to your spouse who you love and would never hurt by causing his/her death, aren't you eating because you agreed with what the second guy said?
If neither of the guys ever said anything, who knows what you would do and how you would behave. You might eat the apple. You might not. But, no agreement in force.
But when you don't eat the apple because of what the first guy says, it is because you agree with him (agreement, pact, contract).
Agreement/pact/contract with the first Guy:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/niv/genesis/3.htm
2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”
Action that showed that the agreement/pact/contract with the second guy was in force:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/niv/genesis/3.htm
6When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
According to the bible too, you can have a small tree in flames talking to you; you can kill entire civilizations; you can rape a woman freely; you can kill homosexuals; you can get into fire women and children for god to breathe their "aromas"; you can put all the species into a big ship; you can open the waters; you can actually walk in the water...
Can you give a reference where does this statement written on the bible? like which part of the bible this was stated? was homo sexuals stated in the bible? Or this statements was just basically came from your mouth.
Moses and the burning bush - https://biblehub.com/exodus/3-2.htm
Entire nations will be destroyed - https://biblehub.com/isaiah/60-12.htm - https://biblehub.com/1_samuel/15-3.htm
Raping women - https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/22-25.htm - https://biblehub.com/niv/deuteronomy/22.htm
Execute homosexuals - https://biblehub.com/leviticus/20-13.htm
Burning women and children for God is against the Bible. Such command is not found therein except in a general way, in the general war between nations.
Noah's ark - https://biblehub.com/niv/genesis/7.htm
Dividing the Red Sea and the Jordan River - https://biblehub.com/exodus/14-16.htm - https://biblehub.com/niv/joshua/3.htm - https://biblehub.com/2_kings/2-8.htm
Jesus walks on water - https://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/14.htm
Generally you can find what you want regarding things in the Bible by searching on "Bible Hub,
According to the bible too, you can have a small tree in flames talking to you; you can kill entire civilizations; you can rape a woman freely; you can kill homosexuals; you can get into fire women and children for god to breathe their "aromas"; you can put all the species into a big ship; you can open the waters; you can actually walk in the water...
Can you give a reference where does this statement written on the bible? like which part of the bible this was stated? was homo sexuals stated in the bible? Or this statements was just basically came from your mouth.
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So maybe this is time to stop believing this book. I rather prefer to believe in the Lord of the Rings. This is a fantasy that suits me more.
Then so, start worshiping the gods from this fantasy. That could not save you anyways when this world starts to demolish
To realize that a hundred and fifty million people could die in one hour and that could be before daylight breaks in the morning. This whole nation could become annihilated. And what do you think will take place?
When, say at least; if ten thousand planes loaded with atomic bombs, if each one would drop an atomic bomb or a hydrogen bomb on this nation, the whole world would shake plumb from its orbit. What would that do? Fulfill every word God said would come to pass. What would it do?
In the time of the antediluvian world when they built the sphinx and so forth, those big pyramids, that we couldn't reproduce it today if we had to, back in that same country where the fuss is beginning now in Egypt, a very striking Bible prophecy.
But notice, God prophesied over in Ezekiel about in the 9th or 19th chapter, That in the day just before the coming of the Lord, there would be a highway come out of Egypt and go up into Syria. And they just completed that highway after twenty-five hundred years of prophecy.
When, say at least; if ten thousand planes loaded with atomic bombs, if each one would drop an atomic bomb or a hydrogen bomb on this nation, the whole world would shake plumb from its orbit. What would that do? Fulfill every word God said would come to pass. What would it do?
In the time of the antediluvian world when they built the sphinx and so forth, those big pyramids, that we couldn't reproduce it today if we had to, back in that same country where the fuss is beginning now in Egypt, a very striking Bible prophecy.
But notice, God prophesied over in Ezekiel about in the 9th or 19th chapter, That in the day just before the coming of the Lord, there would be a highway come out of Egypt and go up into Syria. And they just completed that highway after twenty-five hundred years of prophecy.
There is no good evidence in support of that. If all humans would die, that would not be the end of the world, that would only be the end of all humans and if the earth would explode that would not be the end of the world that would only be the end of earth. There is no good evidence that the end of humans, the earth or the world is near. If you are extremely religious you might think something as silly as the end of the world being near, but there is no rational reason to believe such a ridiculous notion. The world has trillion billion years left, the earth has at least 1 billion years left and for humans. Not sure because of war and the monetary system but i would say at least 1000 years or even millions or even billions of years if we stop using the monetary system at some point in the future.
However, there is nothing that proves God isn't real. Since God is real and created the universe, He did it for a purpose. Mankind is the top creature in the whole universe - just go along with this mankind idea, since all people seem to think it.
If humanity died out, there would be no need for the universe any longer - God's view. So, why not get rid of it? I mean, what else would there be? Create people all over again, just to go through the whole process of watching them destroy themselves again?
Sounds like you have a religion of "God doesn't exist." Since all of nature shows that He does, and since nobody knows how many years the world has left (because even in science we don't know for a fact that there isn't a universe-sized black hole that is "eating" the whole universe, and is propagated itself a little slower than the speed of light so that we can't see it coming), everything you say is speculation. This makes it a religion for you.
There is no good evidence in support of that. If all humans would die, that would not be the end of the world, that would only be the end of all humans and if the earth would explode that would not be the end of the world that would only be the end of earth. There is no good evidence that the end of humans, the earth or the world is near. If you are extremely religious you might think something as silly as the end of the world being near, but there is no rational reason to believe such a ridiculous notion. The world has trillion billion years left, the earth has at least 1 billion years left and for humans. Not sure because of war and the monetary system but i would say at least 1000 years or even millions or even billions of years if we stop using the monetary system at some point in the future.
Biblical prophets are the one that have really see the future and most of the prophecies has come to pass as stated. The end is very near then when we begin and that is why we should be close to God like never before. We are living in the earth and it seems all the humanity are against God.
Actually, the will of mankind is against God. As sinners, we can't understand the way that God thinks in His perfect desiring for us to be holy like He is. We might come close at times. But we never quite understand.
This is why we die. We die so that we can let go of all imperfection. Then, god will take the essence of our spirits/souls, and place them into perfection in the new life in Heaven.
So, yes! All of humanity is against God, even though He has found some of us who are so weak spiritually, that He can work saving faith in us.
When God created the Earth for us, he gave us a whole lot of freedom. We could do anything we wanted except for the one law... don't eat of the fruit of the tree in the middle of the Garden. The whole Earth was free for us. But then we accepted the info from the serpent/devil as greater than that of God. By doing this, we made a pact with the devil that we would listen to him and obey his rules. In other words, we gave the Earth over to the ownership of the devil, at least as far as we were concerned.
If the devil had been somebody of little power, things might not be the same as they were. But check out the second half of Ezekiel 28 to see the power that God had given the devil. The devil was able, through our willing obedience of him, to effect great corruption in us at the core of our being. The result is that we no longer have any power on our own to turn from the devil.
The influence of the devil over us is so great that, if we use any of our strength to attempt to even believe in Jesus salvation on our own, we turn the Jesus salvation thing into corruption for ourselves. It is only through the working of the Holy Spirit in our hearts (our core being) that Jesus salvation can be worked in us successfully.
Since our corruption is this deep, and since we don't understand how such deep corruption works and what it does, we barely see why death is necessary for us, so that God can remake us in the New Heavens and the New Earth, where corruption can never happen again.
This whole operation is built on:
1. The gift of God to us so that we have life;
2. The various agreements we make, first with God... to have life, then with the devil to corrupt our life, and then with God again to bring us to His new gift of salvation (even though it is God Who effects this second agreement with Him, in our hearts).
None of this is as simple as you make it sound.
The only end I see that is near is the destruction of the planet due to our pursuits of resources. The heat is proof of that, and it keeps getting worse. Some people do not want to believe that global warming is real but it is and if you believe in the bible, it could be God's way of telling us we are being punished because we did not take care of the planet that He gave us.
Biblical prophets are the one that have really see the future and most of the prophecies has come to pass as stated. The end is very near then when we begin and that is why we should be close to God like never before. We are living in the earth and it seems all the humanity are against God.
Actually, the will of mankind is against God. As sinners, we can't understand the way that God thinks in His perfect desiring for us to be holy like He is. We might come close at times. But we never quite understand.
This is why we die. We die so that we can let go of all imperfection. Then, god will take the essence of our spirits/souls, and place them into perfection in the new life in Heaven.
So, yes! All of humanity is against God, even though He has found some of us who are so weak spiritually, that He can work saving faith in us.
Biblical prophets are the one that have really see the future and most of the prophecies has come to pass as stated. The end is very near then when we begin and that is why we should be close to God like never before. We are living in the earth and it seems all the humanity are against God.
Actually, the will of mankind is against God. As sinners, we can't understand the way that God thinks in His perfect desiring for us to be holy like He is. We might come close at times. But we never quite understand.
This is why we die. We die so that we can let go of all imperfection. Then, god will take the essence of our spirits/souls, and place them into perfection in the new life in Heaven.
So, yes! All of humanity is against God, even though He has found some of us who are so weak spiritually, that He can work saving faith in us.
What do you think?
From the Bible:
Explanation:
Read more at http://www.patrobertson.com/Teaching/patprophecy.asp.
Biblical prophets are the one that have really see the future and most of the prophecies has come to pass as stated. The end is very near then when we begin and that is why we should be close to God like never before. We are living in the earth and it seems all the humanity are against God. From the Bible:
Quote from: Isaiah 19: 23-25
In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together. In that day, Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth. The Lord Almighty will bless them saying, "Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance." (Isaiah 19: 23-25)
Explanation:
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Next door is modern day Syria. This is a creation of the United Nations. It was given to France as a protectorate and has no historic significance in its current form. Israel is down on the border. And south of that is Egypt.
So what the Bible is saying is a highway will start down in Egypt and probably follow what they call the Way of the Sea that runs up the coast of Israel and crosses over into the Plain of Megiddo and off into Damascus. This was formerly the typical trade route.
Isaiah says this is a time when all of the nations are going to be living in peace. He didn't say Syria, but he said Assyria. The Assyrian Empire extended from Ur of Chaldes, up the Tigress-Euphrates valley toward Baghdad then across to the Mediterranean, taking in modern day Syria. So Assyria in the Bible included modern day Iraq and Syria.
And in the end days there is going to be a coalition between Iraq and Syria. So the events that are taking place right now are extremely significant. I can see a coalition, a federation. We are not talking invasion, but it could happen. This area right now is stirred up with hatred and bitterness. This would encompass modern day Lebanon, which the Syrians have occupied illegally.
Next door is modern day Syria. This is a creation of the United Nations. It was given to France as a protectorate and has no historic significance in its current form. Israel is down on the border. And south of that is Egypt.
So what the Bible is saying is a highway will start down in Egypt and probably follow what they call the Way of the Sea that runs up the coast of Israel and crosses over into the Plain of Megiddo and off into Damascus. This was formerly the typical trade route.
Isaiah says this is a time when all of the nations are going to be living in peace. He didn't say Syria, but he said Assyria. The Assyrian Empire extended from Ur of Chaldes, up the Tigress-Euphrates valley toward Baghdad then across to the Mediterranean, taking in modern day Syria. So Assyria in the Bible included modern day Iraq and Syria.
And in the end days there is going to be a coalition between Iraq and Syria. So the events that are taking place right now are extremely significant. I can see a coalition, a federation. We are not talking invasion, but it could happen. This area right now is stirred up with hatred and bitterness. This would encompass modern day Lebanon, which the Syrians have occupied illegally.
Read more at http://www.patrobertson.com/Teaching/patprophecy.asp.
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According to the bible too, you can have a small tree in flames talking to you; you can kill entire civilizations; you can rape a woman freely; you can kill homosexuals; you can get into fire women and children for god to breathe their "aromas"; you can put all the species into a big ship; you can open the waters; you can actually walk in the water...
So maybe this is time to stop believing this book. I rather prefer to believe in the Lord of the Rings. This is a fantasy that suits me more.
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According to the bible too, you can have a small tree in flames talking to you; you can kill entire civilizations; you can rape a woman freely; you can kill homosexuals; you can get into fire women and children for god to breathe their "aromas"; you can put all the species into a big ship; you can open the waters; you can actually walk in the water...
So maybe this is time to stop believing this book. I rather prefer to believe in the Lord of the Rings. This is a fantasy that suits me more.
What do you think?
From the Bible:
Explanation:
Read more at http://www.patrobertson.com/Teaching/patprophecy.asp.
Well, to believe this, you first have to believe in the Bible. Why do you say the end is near? I don't see anything in this article actually talking about this event being connected with the end of the world. It talks about the events taking place now being extremely significant. Is he implying that there's going to be a union between Iraq and Syria soon that will also encompass Lebanon? Maybe I'm really out of the loop, but it doesn't seem like anybody is actually trying to do that.From the Bible:
Quote from: Isaiah 19: 23-25
In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together. In that day, Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth. The Lord Almighty will bless them saying, "Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance." (Isaiah 19: 23-25)
Explanation:
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Next door is modern day Syria. This is a creation of the United Nations. It was given to France as a protectorate and has no historic significance in its current form. Israel is down on the border. And south of that is Egypt.
So what the Bible is saying is a highway will start down in Egypt and probably follow what they call the Way of the Sea that runs up the coast of Israel and crosses over into the Plain of Megiddo and off into Damascus. This was formerly the typical trade route.
Isaiah says this is a time when all of the nations are going to be living in peace. He didn't say Syria, but he said Assyria. The Assyrian Empire extended from Ur of Chaldes, up the Tigress-Euphrates valley toward Baghdad then across to the Mediterranean, taking in modern day Syria. So Assyria in the Bible included modern day Iraq and Syria.
And in the end days there is going to be a coalition between Iraq and Syria. So the events that are taking place right now are extremely significant. I can see a coalition, a federation. We are not talking invasion, but it could happen. This area right now is stirred up with hatred and bitterness. This would encompass modern day Lebanon, which the Syrians have occupied illegally.
Next door is modern day Syria. This is a creation of the United Nations. It was given to France as a protectorate and has no historic significance in its current form. Israel is down on the border. And south of that is Egypt.
So what the Bible is saying is a highway will start down in Egypt and probably follow what they call the Way of the Sea that runs up the coast of Israel and crosses over into the Plain of Megiddo and off into Damascus. This was formerly the typical trade route.
Isaiah says this is a time when all of the nations are going to be living in peace. He didn't say Syria, but he said Assyria. The Assyrian Empire extended from Ur of Chaldes, up the Tigress-Euphrates valley toward Baghdad then across to the Mediterranean, taking in modern day Syria. So Assyria in the Bible included modern day Iraq and Syria.
And in the end days there is going to be a coalition between Iraq and Syria. So the events that are taking place right now are extremely significant. I can see a coalition, a federation. We are not talking invasion, but it could happen. This area right now is stirred up with hatred and bitterness. This would encompass modern day Lebanon, which the Syrians have occupied illegally.
Read more at http://www.patrobertson.com/Teaching/patprophecy.asp.
I also think it's funny that the US should be "saving the world" yet again:
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I would think it would be marvelous if one of the things that the United States insists on is that they make a peace treaty with Israel. We need to tell Syria you are not going to be lobbing shells through your surrogates Hizbollah into northern Israel, but make peace. Then all of a sudden Egypt has a peace treaty with Israel, and now Syria and Iraq would come together under the United States influence.
Is it really a fulfillment of prophecy, if you do it on purpose to fulfill a prophecy? 
What do you think?
From the Bible:
Explanation:
Read more at http://www.patrobertson.com/Teaching/patprophecy.asp.
From the Bible:
Quote from: Isaiah 19: 23-25
In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together. In that day, Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth. The Lord Almighty will bless them saying, "Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance." (Isaiah 19: 23-25)
Explanation:
...
Next door is modern day Syria. This is a creation of the United Nations. It was given to France as a protectorate and has no historic significance in its current form. Israel is down on the border. And south of that is Egypt.
So what the Bible is saying is a highway will start down in Egypt and probably follow what they call the Way of the Sea that runs up the coast of Israel and crosses over into the Plain of Megiddo and off into Damascus. This was formerly the typical trade route.
Isaiah says this is a time when all of the nations are going to be living in peace. He didn't say Syria, but he said Assyria. The Assyrian Empire extended from Ur of Chaldes, up the Tigress-Euphrates valley toward Baghdad then across to the Mediterranean, taking in modern day Syria. So Assyria in the Bible included modern day Iraq and Syria.
And in the end days there is going to be a coalition between Iraq and Syria. So the events that are taking place right now are extremely significant. I can see a coalition, a federation. We are not talking invasion, but it could happen. This area right now is stirred up with hatred and bitterness. This would encompass modern day Lebanon, which the Syrians have occupied illegally.
Next door is modern day Syria. This is a creation of the United Nations. It was given to France as a protectorate and has no historic significance in its current form. Israel is down on the border. And south of that is Egypt.
So what the Bible is saying is a highway will start down in Egypt and probably follow what they call the Way of the Sea that runs up the coast of Israel and crosses over into the Plain of Megiddo and off into Damascus. This was formerly the typical trade route.
Isaiah says this is a time when all of the nations are going to be living in peace. He didn't say Syria, but he said Assyria. The Assyrian Empire extended from Ur of Chaldes, up the Tigress-Euphrates valley toward Baghdad then across to the Mediterranean, taking in modern day Syria. So Assyria in the Bible included modern day Iraq and Syria.
And in the end days there is going to be a coalition between Iraq and Syria. So the events that are taking place right now are extremely significant. I can see a coalition, a federation. We are not talking invasion, but it could happen. This area right now is stirred up with hatred and bitterness. This would encompass modern day Lebanon, which the Syrians have occupied illegally.
Read more at http://www.patrobertson.com/Teaching/patprophecy.asp.
according to bible whenever people try to buiild tower of babel, god confuses them with chaotic langauges,
same is with cryptos the onces understood evaluation system dollar dies and leaves chaoes and confrontation behind
No. People have been saying the end is nigh since the dawn of mankind and I wouldn't pay too much attention to the bible. According to the bible you should kill a lot of people for doing very minor things (working on sundays, talking back to your parents, homosexuals, adulterers, non-believers, non-virgins, entire cities if one person there worships the wrong god)
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
The bible says a lot of other silly stuff: https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/
According to the bible, brother will bear false witness against his brother; nation will rise against another nation, etc. Currently, are these not our experiences, if not on a daily basis? Signs of end time are everywhere.
What do you think?
From the Bible:
Explanation:
Read more at http://www.patrobertson.com/Teaching/patprophecy.asp.
From the Bible:
Quote from: Isaiah 19: 23-25
In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together. In that day, Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth. The Lord Almighty will bless them saying, "Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance." (Isaiah 19: 23-25)
Explanation:
...
Next door is modern day Syria. This is a creation of the United Nations. It was given to France as a protectorate and has no historic significance in its current form. Israel is down on the border. And south of that is Egypt.
So what the Bible is saying is a highway will start down in Egypt and probably follow what they call the Way of the Sea that runs up the coast of Israel and crosses over into the Plain of Megiddo and off into Damascus. This was formerly the typical trade route.
Isaiah says this is a time when all of the nations are going to be living in peace. He didn't say Syria, but he said Assyria. The Assyrian Empire extended from Ur of Chaldes, up the Tigress-Euphrates valley toward Baghdad then across to the Mediterranean, taking in modern day Syria. So Assyria in the Bible included modern day Iraq and Syria.
And in the end days there is going to be a coalition between Iraq and Syria. So the events that are taking place right now are extremely significant. I can see a coalition, a federation. We are not talking invasion, but it could happen. This area right now is stirred up with hatred and bitterness. This would encompass modern day Lebanon, which the Syrians have occupied illegally.
Next door is modern day Syria. This is a creation of the United Nations. It was given to France as a protectorate and has no historic significance in its current form. Israel is down on the border. And south of that is Egypt.
So what the Bible is saying is a highway will start down in Egypt and probably follow what they call the Way of the Sea that runs up the coast of Israel and crosses over into the Plain of Megiddo and off into Damascus. This was formerly the typical trade route.
Isaiah says this is a time when all of the nations are going to be living in peace. He didn't say Syria, but he said Assyria. The Assyrian Empire extended from Ur of Chaldes, up the Tigress-Euphrates valley toward Baghdad then across to the Mediterranean, taking in modern day Syria. So Assyria in the Bible included modern day Iraq and Syria.
And in the end days there is going to be a coalition between Iraq and Syria. So the events that are taking place right now are extremely significant. I can see a coalition, a federation. We are not talking invasion, but it could happen. This area right now is stirred up with hatred and bitterness. This would encompass modern day Lebanon, which the Syrians have occupied illegally.
Read more at http://www.patrobertson.com/Teaching/patprophecy.asp.
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