Topic: The European Super League (Read 293 times)

The players are already going through extreme stress due to the scheduling of the tournaments and games and it all seems like the activity line up is choked. Introducing new activities to the schedule will only increase the rate of the worn out feeling every player would experience. Although it won't be for all teams but still the players involved would be at higher risk of injuries.

 The domestic league game is enough, so is the UCL and UEL, then they've got the country's cups in the respective leagues. So it's more or less unnecessary that there's a welcome to another continental cup.vit really is of no use as it's purposeless for the team but very much a wealth investing opportunity for the football heads. And now this is simply satisfying your need at the expense of someone else's satisfaction and it's clearly unfair.
There should be considerations too and not just blindly making unfair decisions both intentionally and unintentionally.

I was against it when they announced initially and I'm against renewed project. We have something very similar in European basketball, called Euroleague. Yeah, it's very interesting to watch, but it's closed league basically. And when rest of clubs can't get into it, gap between them and elite is getting bigger and bigger.
System that UEFA have is almost perfect IMO. Even tiny club from Gibraltar can qualify to group stage. And whole competition format is almost perfect IMO. But it's last season with current format, next season we will have new format, though, I still didn't figured out fully how it will work. And I don't like that UEFA fixing things that aren't broken, but it's probably their reaction to ESL.
Anyway, seems that ESL have only 2 supporters remaining, Real and Barca, so, future of project is uncertain.

I was going to say the same thing. He is literally mocking us about that topic.    Just how can you say that football is not for sale? Won't you really do what they want when for example Saudi Arabia or Qatar come to you and make a very profitable offer? Arabian and Qatari teams have already got so many players from Europe for a lot of money.

Now the possibility of Saudi Arabian teams to join the Champions League also is being discussed. Some time ago they said like that kind of a thing wouldn't happen. But I don't believe their words honestly. If this really happens the balances will surely be upset a lot.

Some of the clubs that supported the ESL accused UEFA of abusing their monopoly and dominance. The football governing organisation have had a series of accusations of financial misappropriation and abuse of power by top officials. These clubs feel that it is important to break this monopoly and free European clubs from this bondage. Most of the clubs that want to join this new league are doing that because of financial gain, so it is time for UEFA to be transparent in its financial dealings so that these clubs can make a good profit because most of them are in deep debt. I don't like the ESL league because it will not give smaller clubs equal opportunities but the powers of UEFA need to be whittled down.

There needs to be a middle ground and I do not think that the new method of UCL is the one. We do need to see money play a role in football one way or another, and currently it's just the reality.

Yes, we do like to hear stuff like Leicester city winning premier league, and yes this will close the door on that type of stuff ever happening, that's true. However, haven't we seen City just dominate that whole league? Real and Barcelona dominate la liga? Bayern dominating Bundesliga? PSG dominating Ligue 1?

We have seen these things already and it's already here, so we might as well at least get the best out of that. If these teams are the 90% of income of UCL, why are they getting like just 10% of the shares? The money is nearly equally distributed to everyone in the groups, that's not good at all.

I'm of the same opinion as many people said, it doesn't make sense to have another league when there is already a very tight schedule because of having many leagues in each season, imagine how difficult it must be for teams from England having to play in the premier league , there are 2 other leagues, there is a European champions league, a European league, you have to play for the England national team in friendly games, in qualifying games for the euro, in euro games, in qualifying games for the world cup, in the world cup games. This all tires the players a lot, see that a player has training from Monday to Friday and Saturday or Sunday has a game. In training, players run every day

So how long will the players have to rest? They won't have time to rest and as a consequence, when they get injured, they need to spend a long time recovering and this causes a lot of damage to the team, there are many teams that were very damaged because of the national teams' games. we just have to see next year what a headache it will be for the team coaches because next year there will be the African Cup of Nations games, whenever there is this tournament, the European teams are harmed because the African players return injured from that tournament, there is the Euro which is also another very important European competition that will cause many players to get injured and there is the CONMEBOL Copa América which is also a very important competition on the American continent and there will certainly be many injured players returning from this tournament

The reintroduction of ESL to the football environment will have an extra consequence on the players. For one, the teams that'd participate in this league race are also teams doing well in their domestic leagues and taking part in the UCL and UEL too.
Currently the players are already going through the stress of having to play the league games over the weekend and then the Continental tournaments within the week and then, there's be scheduled international breaks. Being logical, when or how will the ESL be inputed in the weekly roster for a team, the bigger and better teams will be out.

 at a disadvantage as their focus will be on three ranges and it'll put extra stress to the players physical and mental state. It's an act very much liable to ensue game losses amongst teams and their whole confidence for other games can be affected.
I'd only advise that when some decisions are made, every area or perspective should be looked at closely so as to prevent making unfavorable decisions just because it favours a few section of people.

Currently, left two teams still support with The European Super League are Barcelona and Real Madrid, just waiting few months later if not get support from the other bigger teams I believe this competition will not any progress yet in the future.
First time announcing to the public many teams interested with good planning from The European Super League and how much money offering to the team participants make them interested with this super highest level competition in Europe, but UEFA not keep silent yet and they want loss compete and give warning for teams participants will remover and get suspended by UEFA, some teams leaves the European Super League afraid with suspended from UEFA and right now left Barcelona and Real Madrid likely can't continue this competition.

The plan to form The European Super League has resurfaced because the European Union Court decided that the European Super League (ESL) could continue. In this decision, the court supported the holding of the European Super League, the court also prohibited UEFA from giving sanctions to clubs participating in the European Super League competition, including sanctions prohibiting them from participating in the Champions League. This competition will be attended by big teams in Europe, there will be a Big Match game every week because it brings together big clubs.

In my opinion, there will be positive and negative sides if the European Super League competition is held, the players' energy will be increasingly drained because the competition the team they are playing for is increasing. They will be very vulnerable to injury if they are forced to play too much. Football fans will always have their eyes spoiled every each week because there will be a Big Match.
As a football fan, of course I support this competition. The big clubs that take part in the European Super League competition will have their focus divided between the Domestic League, Champions League and European Super League. This situation will provide an opportunity for clubs that were previously unable to compete in the domestic league to have the opportunity to win trophies.

UEFA president has reason why he dislike with European Super League because teams participants is top teams only and now allowed small or mediocre teams will get chance, he makes comparison if Girona and Atalanta finish on top fourth standings in their domestic league will not get chance for participating there. Actually if the participants on European Super League not priority with small teams but I want UEFA adopted fair financial compensation for all teams participants.
UEFA Champion League and other competition under UEFA controlling must be transparent with how much TV broadcast rights and sponsorship earned by UEFA and spent to all teams participants more bigger than commission earn by UEFA only.

Football has gone beyond just passion to the finances. And as it’s said no business flourishes without finance. Yea, there were rumors of ESL which got UEFA shaking and now it seems that the rumors are getting true as the movement to get the maiden edition is on and we’ve most clubs still against it but some clubs are in for it. Which means that there's still hope for the league to become a reality in times to come.

 Yes, the finance from there is pretty tempting and that’s one factor most of these clubs consider because it’ll help them in recruiting more players, Florentino Perez is one hell of a business guru that knows how to get what he wants and get the profits too and that’s one major reason I don’t think the European Super League competition will die anytime soon, even though many top clubs have rejected joining the league.

No, it would replace the Champions League, but I don't really know whether I would like more games of the spectacular games. It reminds me of the UEFA Nations League when I sometimes caught myself that I couldn't even remember the winner from last time because I didn't watch the game. It is superfluous in my eyes. It is nice to have these huge games between the best teams in Europe only a few times a year. That's real exclusivity and everyone is looking forward to those games. This is the critical point, whether people will enjoy having those games on a weekly basis or whether it is more like Christmas when the KO stages begin in the Champions League.

I am not supporting it like most of the high class figures in the UEFA government.They say that there is no reason to have another European Super League which would be senseless and I fully agree with them.The teams and players are already tired with all the fixtures in Champions League,Europa League and Europa Conference League and all the domestic leagues where they play and adding another ESL would be pointless as it would not attract more than the audience that this sport already have.

They can say Gold,Star and Blue just as marketing terms but the reality is that of what I described above which would add nothing to the European competitions.

From what I understand, Napoli is not included, and I think their position is unknown for now. It would've been 3 clubs (Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus) swinging their hats for the ESL. The old ladies pulled out following the resignation of their former chairman Andrea Agnelli, who was a staunch supporter. So as it stands now, it's only 2 clubs that have thrown their support. Following the european court of justice ruling on the ESL, United was the first club to issue a public statement distancing itself from the ESL. Other clubs like Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham have also come out to reject the league.

it would definitely be very exciting to see big european teams playing every week with a league format like this, but it seems that this will not be possible. the first reason is that these teams already have busy schedules in their respective leagues. secondly, players and officials need to rest, because rest is part of training and they cannot do other activities outside of their rest. and thirdly, to hold each match requires funds and sponsors, with so many matches each week it will not be possible for sponsors to participate in each match due to their limited funds, so it is likely that the league will not get sufficient funds.

the current match format has been carefully considered by uefa, so it already follows various rules, so there is no need to add a new league.

Did you see latest statement from UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin talked about

"We have never tried to stop the project. They can do whatever they want, I hope they start as soon as possible with two clubs. I hope they know what they are doing, but I am not sure. Football is not for sale."

Its so funny about about what his said football is not for sale but UEFA made many competition every years between national teams and club competition with UEFA get more profitable trough television broadcasting rights and sponsorship, with present of The European Super League will make team earn based on equal distribution of broadcasting rights and sponsorship with a very large amount compared to competitions held by UEFA such as the Champions League or Europe League. But disappointed respond with many top European teams rejected with ideas The European Super League with fantastic income due participants but many of teams have announce not will participants.

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/european-super-league-uefa-fse-aleksander-ceferin/blt10695e6244c9a1ef#cs9f3f3dcfff0a2439

You have a point, The Super League will only complicate things for the players and nothing more, most teams participating in the Champions League and some other domestic competitions are bitterly complaining about too much activity for the players every week, for these teams they need enough squad depth so the players don’t suffer from fatigue and injuries and despite that squad depth is not enough to prevent fatigue. If the Super League is being implemented it will affect alot of teams negatively when competing in their home domestic leagues because of tight schedule of matches.

A question i have in mind is how will the Super League fixtures be? What days of the week do they plan to fix the matches as every other competitions have occupied the week already or do they plan to cancel the Champions League?

I see lots of teams rejecting it probably because they don’t see the point of the competition, what difference will it have compared to the Champions League?

It is obviously another form of generating money, the Super League is really not necessary.

It needs to be acknowledged that the European Super League's finances are bigger than FIFA and UEFA, that's an important note. And now FIFA and UEFA do not want the European Super League to become a competitor to the UCL. That's what I understand from the current rejection. Just imagine, before each team started the match, they had already made a profit of more than 200 million Euros and that was bigger than the prize for winning the UCL which was only around 80 million Euros. Like it or not, every club really needs additional funds periodically to increase financial stability.

Napoli made the right decision and agreed to join. Then Barcelona also benefits, especially now that their finances are worrying, they feel helped by having new competition without paying a penny and then getting a profit up front. Realistically, if clubs in Europe want to join, the European Super League is divided into several categories with a very reasonable system so that each division gets the same financial assistance to improve the quality of players.

Currently many clubs are refusing, but I'm sure ESL will continue to lobby, and don't forget that FIFA and UEFA must remember who Florentino Perez is.

The existence of the super league would have become one do the essential league we have in Europe but it turn out that most elite clubs have pick no interest. Keeping oneself updated about the system and ensuring you follow the right update and not settle for lesser scores. You're right, the vast majority have decline the proposals to join the super league because they feel its weigh out of line and this might attracts punishment from FIFA, possibly a ban from top football related bodies. What are you talking about, Real Madrid and Barcelona are the main founding clubs of the super league and they're ready to take the league to a whole fresh new level in football.

What I know from the football media news is that only Barcelona, Real Madrid and Napoli joined the others refused.

Then this is about the financial benefits that make this super league, if this tournament really happens then the benefits of Barcelona and Real Madrid will get fresh funds including Barcelona will get out of their financial downturn, obviously this is just speculation.

As reported by Fabrzio Romano, many clubs have refused this Super League.
He said the broadcast of super league matches would be free to stream. 

Good to have more competition really but what I don't quite understand is why there are so many leagues now.
Why won't top leagues among Europe get together and make something with athletic skill based and performance qualifying criteria that equally benefits all teams small and big is beyond me. Seems like everyone is after the money of football at this point and we have just seen football splitting into too many international leagues which gets confusing and hard to follow.

We have to wait to see the reaction of FIFA and UEFA. These organizations know that the Super League is a threat to their dominance in football. UEFA had already amended its rules to make it very difficult for clubs to play in the Super League. And they will do everything possible to stop the progress of the Super League. I am just guessing that these teams will be barred from competing in any UEFA-organised competition.


From the ruling of the European Court of Justice (ECJ), the European Super League (ESL) is here to stay. The court just gave the organisers of the Super League freedom to start the competition. I know that the two clubs that are fully supporting the ESL are Barcelona and Real Madrid. Some analysts assume that these teams have financial problems and this league will be a great opportunity to make more money. Most clubs in the top Leagues including former supporters like Atletico Madrid and Manchester United, have rejected the ruling. Which means they might not have enough clubs to compete.

I don't support the ESL because it will further widen the financial gap between top clubs and average of low-placed clubs. Since only top clubs will financially benefit from the league, other clubs will keep suffering from budget deficits.

Forget the monetary benefits, I don't think a new european tournament is necessary. These players are human beings and they're already involved in domestic, european, and international games, adding a new league would stress them out.

For instance, England has 3 domestic tournaments and the european tournaments (champions league, europa league, conference league). Meaning that a club that finishes in the top 7 must play in 4 tournaments. Other european nations have 2 - 3 domestic and the european tournaments. Adding a new european tournament would increase the total number of tournaments by plus one and it would cause more fatigue in the team.

It looks like the European Super League will be like this after the last statements by so many European teams. 

Every top team have been just announcing that they don't think about leaving UEFA competitions and preferring the European Super League over them. The new format for this new tournament has been announced by the way but it doesn't matter much anymore. I wouldn't expect it to be underway with only a couple of teams either because it is a project planned with quite many teams. I expect this project to be cancelled some time later.

Other big teams from EU might join it "if" the offer is too good to refuse. But Im sure the plan will be failed "again" after UEFA threat all clubs with new sanctions.
The concepts of Super League have been brought by many European clubs since 1968 but always failed to achieve popular approval.

It will not happen even before it starts, everyone is already against it, the only team that I can think of is Real Madrid who wants this, nobody else wants it. I get the request, every team that goes to UCL group stages gets a ton of money, and Perez wanted Real Madrid to get a lot more, which I can understand.

With the new setup, teams like Real or City, will play 8 games at the UCL, instead of 6, and then last sixteen 2 games, then quarter finals 2 games, then semi finals 2 games, and finals 1 game. That's a total of 15 games, with the league being 38 games as well, so that is 53 games, then super cup (europa and ucl winners) that's 54, then club world cup, that's at least another 4-5 games, that's nearing 60, then the domestic cup, at least 5-6 more there, so that's 65 games, then the super cup of the domestic, and there are national games as well, both continental or world cups, that's between qualifiers and the games itself.

We are talking about players getting 75 games or so per year. So Real just wanted more money, that's it, which is understandable.

I think this wasn't bad idea to begin with but I don't want national leagues to be totally terminated. We needed some sort of European super league for so long because champions league isnt enough for proper football fan. I guess English teams will all have bad time joining this super league because English football federation didn't give permission to them. I still feel like uefa can come up with idea basically transforming champions league similar to what rich teams expected from European Super League.

So far, Real Madrid and Barcelona seem to be the only ones supporting this so-called Super League.  Most other clubs want nothing to do with it.  You gotta wonder - do they really think they can get this thing off the ground with just two teams?! I mean, who's gonna play in this league? Just Barça and Los Blancos going head-to-head every weekend? As interesting as El Clasico is, I think fans would get sick of it real fast if that's all there was. 

I would be massively against it if UEFA and national FA’s stopped state buyouts like PSG, Man City and Newcastle. Everybody hates the Super League because it apparently destroys fair competition. Allowing blood regimes to sports wash and cheat FFP is worse and it is exactly what Man City, PSG and Newcastle do. Crappy little clubs coming from nowhere to win trophies is a joke.

If the Super League levels the playing field and allows legacy clubs like Real, Barca, both Milan clubs, Liverpool, Man Utd, Juventus etc to compete with the murderous, petro dollars of those State owned clubs then so be it.

Man City got off on a technicality in their UEFA charges. They now have 115 pending charges with the PL in England. My club Liverpool would have 2 or 3 more PL titles if it wasn’t for these cheating clubs. So if the Super League allowed Liverpool much more money to compete with these cheating, oil clubs then I am all for it.

this idea is very fascinating, a tournament that seems more like something out of a videogame than a real competition in real life.
I wonder if this will actually also guarantee access to this type of competition for "smaller teams".
It would be sad to see only a championship of rich teams....

the aspect linked to betting is very interesting as teams could play with "junior teams" in their home leagues ... aim exclusively to win this competition

The European Super League seems quite interesting because it will involve more team and of course there can be matches almost every time.
However, it seems there are quite lot of big teams who have rejected it and of course this could have big impact on each team if they have to take part in this competition.
Just imagine the match schedule will increase and of course the players performance will decrease.
Every big team that clearly has all the players is almost all great players and playing in just three competitions they seem to have experienced decline in one of the competitions, especially since there is European Super League which involves more matches.

I myself would not consider the European Super League to be the best competition because in my opinion the most awaited and always interested competition is the UEFA Champions League.
But I don't know for some people out there, when it comes to sports betting, it might be very profitable because the more matches there are, the more opportunities that can be taken advantage of.
It just that this isn't just about betting and there seems to be lot of bad talk about the European Super League among football fans.

Didn't the UEFA ban for clubs being judged as unlawful recently? If that's the case, the team might still participate but I'm sure UEFA would find another way to make them leave ESL and stick with Champions League instead. At the end of the day, all of this is happening because of money. The founding clubs are basically trying to earn more money/stable income, especially if they don't qualify for the Champions League which can limit their spending. From what I understood so far, in the latest format, their privilege of staying on top of the league is still guaranteed even if there is promotion and relegation since there is an extra clause that merit is included in their evaluation, basically the same thing as before. If they can make it more competitive, and at the same time don't overshadow their national league, criticism might not be as strong as what currently exists.

I don't think this league will ever happen. A major overhaul needed to happen if they really want to incentivize Premier League clubs to join this without any strong opposition from their fans. As for Spanish/Italian clubs etc, this can be a sign for them to improve their business model so that they can compete with the PL.

Somewhere 2021, this super League of a thing came to the timeline and there was some controversies then and I thought everything has been resolved. I am so surprised that this has sufficed again but what I really like this time is the consistency of decision.
When this matter came up, some of the big clubs across Europe rejected the idea and now that the idea is resurfaced and amidst the controversy and tempting financial offer, these big clubs are not still buying into the idea. These clubs are Manchester United, Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Chelsea. Infact the English premier League is against the super League idea. I don't know how this will work when big names are rejecting it.

Seems The European Super League have been over after many teams rejected with this competition model and latest news have Manchester United and Chelsea not agree with this model of competition. Actually I like the ideas of The European Super League because they have earned much money and spent for all teams participants difference with UEFA Champion League or other European competition provide compensation funds with small amount and UEFA get more benefit with sponsorship than with how much earned by all teams participants.
I think bad ideas when The European Super League give huge amount for all participants than their participated in Champion League but they won't playing with most competitive league schedule and get much benefit.

I think have positive side with The European Super League and all teams participants can comparison how much compensation funds earned between Champion League or European Super League because in the football modern era money is most important thing.

I've heard a lot of arguments, but it seems like everyone on either side has their own stance. IMO, I want to be neutral on the watcher side because having a new tournament is great because people have more choices, but in terms of professional quality, I also agree that the players compete. Playing too many national and continental tournaments will somewhat affect the calculations. Perhaps there will be some benefits and risks if this happens. Anyway, the judgment belongs to the people involved. We only hope for good things for football development, so any proposed direction should have consensus from many sides, not simply individual opinions.

In my opinion, Europe, especially UEFA, cannot reject the existence of the European Super League, because after all this will provide many benefits, namely that competition in the European Super League is free of charge. In this case, the president of the European Super League Florentino Pérez wants to recreate clean football and indeed aims to return the world of football to its proper place where all clubs benefit from this competition. Meanwhile, currently several Domestic Leagues are still refusing to contribute but will they let the profits that are in sight, which have a big impact on the club progress from a financial perspective, be left to chance? Clubs that need large funds must not refuse this opportunity if they want the club financial condition to improve. In the end, if they are successful, they can advance the club by buying quality players and improving the facilities the team needs. Or are some clubs in the Domestic League worried that if the European Super League occurs, their power at the top of the standings will be threatened?

So far I don't have a problem with the existence of the European Super League if it has a positive impact on the club's future, because without stable finances a club will only end tragically.

I don't even support this. The creator of ESL super league has their own agenda. This is also the main reason several big clubs have been very vocal in rejecting that competition https://www.goal.com/en/lists/man-utd-join-bayern-munich-atletico-madrid-ieuropean-super-league-after-latest-ruling/bltf513c61a1b55da3d#cs66206d517fc0ee85

They are still complying with UEFA law. I will not even try to support this and i will put this into my ignore list. I completely agree with certain English Premier League clubs that have taken the initiative to reject the introduction of this new competition on the European continent.

The better thing to dedicate it for the small clubs then they can get additional income from participated in the ESL. I hope all of the big clubs will be rejecting it.

I see no reason to participate in the ESL.

the european super league is the initiation of a big club that has a lot of money. of course the club from the primiere league must join it and the fan base and audience of the English league club is large if there is no of course it will reduce revenue from audience advertising etc. which of course a business reward is yes from advertising revenue without advertising the competition will not be able to run.
And even if there is competition, there will be great friction with the champion league the highest club competition in Europe.

This European super league to me is unnecessary, these players are already occupied with many competition's almost in every week both international and national games with a whole lot of them suffering from fatigue and injuries as a result of the tight matches  schedules.

I hear and I don't know if it's a rumor or it's true that some teams are rejecting it and they are justified because from what I see here in my own perspective is that the football body just drafting out another form of making money from this so-called super league. Let's also consider the fitness and stability of the players too and not just about the competitions after competition's

Football fans, what's your view of the European Super League?
The format will be a total of 64 teams divided into 3 divisions (Star, Gold and Blue)
Each team plays 14 matches (7 home and 7 away matches).
Not only will this competition put big clubs against each other each match week, but it will also give these teams a lot of money. A lot of these clubs need money. It's normal for most English clubs to reject this because they are allowed to spend more money than the other leagues in Europe.
There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?

What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?