Topic: The Face Mask Placebo (Read 676 times)

^^^ That's why you have to emphasize something that isn't there.

well in your sheltered world you wont hear about it. but thats more about your ignorance than whats really happening in the world.

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thats why the world is experiencing the real issues and why your trying hard to remain ignorant to pretend its not there. by avoiding hearing the science and facts, you dont make it disappear. you just make yourself look like a fool

^^^ Your links don't necessarily point to the eyes as a place where Covid enters or departs.

Besides, we have only heard it from government a little, lately. In fact, government isn't really telling it to us at all. It's really only Fauci that is blabbing it a little.

January
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/expert-says-killer-coronavirus-spread-21352748

february
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/28/21157769/how-to-prevent-the-coronavirus

March
https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/coronavirus-red-eyes-key-sign-21752329

april
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-eyes-contagious-infection-conjunctivitis-italy-wuhan-a9482186.html

may
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1280951/coronavirus-latest-update-symptoms-ocular-pink-eye-conjunctivitis-covid-19

oh look they been saying about be careful of your eyes even in the first 5 months..

Of course they don't, they want to extend the recovery period, and escalate the problems from infection. That way sheeple will believe that a poisonous vaccine is essential. Wearing a mask pushes some of your ( possibly ) virus infected exhalation up into your eyes, this spreads the infection into a different part of your body. They want you to use "sanitisers" as well to destroy the bacteria on your skin that neutralises the virus. I'm surprised that they don't want you to inject the virus into your body - Oh wait! Isn't that what a vaccine does?

they have been saying for since the beginning that the eye is a pathway of infection

for months they have been saying dont touch your face

your eye socket does not have air pressure to inhale covid
so worrying about airborne virus being sucked into your eye is stupid

but if you are touching things and getting high viral load onto your hands. and then rubbing your eye. then the transmission rate is higher

wearing glasses wont stpp people touching their face more then simply asking people to stop touching their face or atleast wash hands regularly after touching random things many of the public also touch
(shopping carts, door handles and such)

so the completely free option is to just care about your hygiene and personal space and just be more thoughtful about your actions

after all you wouldnt wipe your ass bare handed without toilet paper and then rub your face. you wouldnt touch wet paint and then rub your face. you would however wash your hand or avoid your naked hand touching things that can be nasty

as for thinking this is then an oppertunity to then beg for gloves. nope. again washing your hands or just limiting what you touch is free

I know a family who wore masks, used sanitizers all the time, used their own auto, observed all the precautions but still caught this virus.
Recently I've read about new covid researches. It said that the possible way for infection was also eyes. Our government doesn't say anything about eyes protection. I personally don't wear a mask outside. I want to breathe fresh air not my exhaled carbon dioxide. I don't want to have hypoxia.

Part of the reason for the mutation is the herd immunity. However, if there is mutation, it will never be 100%. There will always be some of the original left. Some herd immunity will protect against all the originals and all the mutations.

Btw, the stats are being massaged. Overall death statistics aren't any greater for this period of time for this year, than for this period of time for any other year. In fact, 2020 death statistics are less than 2017 for the same time-period. The trick is finding which causes have been reduced to make the Covid cause appear greater.

Like you said, it's mostly a matter of common sense...
If you are in closed space with lots of people around you, wearing a mask will decrease your chances of catching something. Of course it's stupid to wear a mask 24/7, but reduce chances in high risk scenarios just makes perfect sense.

We don't even know if herb immunity is achievable, apparently the virus is mutating quickly and herd immunity could maybe only be obtained in the 3rd or 4rd wave of the virus... We might as well take some basic measures to limit the spread.

And countries that took no measures to contain it (like Sweden) have worse stats than others and no immunity in sight. So they might have done that for nothing.

Provided the streets are empty and no infected person passes by you or sneezes on you  

You should not wear the mask all the time and also it should not be the case that you don't wear the mask at all. You need to use comon sense on when to wear the mask and when not to wear it.

It's harmful and of course you cannot get infected by walking in the street without mask

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/man-parades-down-londons-oxford-street-wearing-nothing-but-a-mask

That guy was obviously worried about a different infection.

It's not harmful and of course you can get infected by walking in the street without mask 

Facemask isn't enough to stop anything. All it does is limits the amount of fresh air you get into your lungs. And with practice of use, that's okay.

What you really need is a full time space suit.

I haven't searched for it, but have you seen a fireman walk into Walmart using his air tanks for breathing? That's the closest you will get to being safe with a mask.

Yes I agree if we all wear Face mask the infection will be minimized here in our country those who are caught not wearing a face mask is fined an equivalent of  $100 and one week imprisonment, whether we like it or not we need to wear a Face mask it don't restrict our breathing there was a study that it is not interfering with our breath cycle if you picked the right mask to wear.

If the masks stop droplets, the people won't be getting as much herd immunity. When they take their masks off, or when the masks don't fit tight (as is the case 100% of the time), they will get the droplets, and the virus. Without herd immunity, they will get just as sick as they would have otherwise.

Otherwise? Since the whole viral thing is an uncertainty in the first place, they won't get any sicker than they would have any other year. How can anybody tell? Just watch the people fall to the pavement, dead, all around you. I mean dozens of them, all the time. Run for your life!

Most of the studies I have seen (even the ones made well before Covid) say otherwise. The virus is spreaded in droplets and the masks stop the droplets, logically the mask should be effective.

The more the viruses mutate, the better. Then the immune system will have to work harder. It's about time that people get a little exercise.

Our body and our immune system are designed to constantly deal with something new and unpleasant. Since childhood, interacting with other people, eating with dirty hands, touching our face / eyes with dirty hands, we give our immunity those things with which it has to fight and due to this it becomes stronger. If the immune system has nothing to fight with, it begins to twitch and weaken.

In view of this, the complete isolation of a person from interaction with the environment and other people will lead to a deterioration in his immune system, which will ultimately increase the number of possible diseases that a person will inappropriately encounter when he returns to his social life.

You can imagine a scenario that the virus will have time to mutate during its stay in isolation, or some new virus will appear. Then there is a risk that our immune system simply will not cope with this, and the mortality rate will no longer be so low.

That's what is good about the United States. Government only has limited authority for a limited time to force anybody to do anything. And if government people are wrong - especially after a substantial period of time - they open themselves up to personal liability if they continue the charade.

And that is what we are finding, now. US deaths overall aren't any greater than any other season. This means that if people are dying from Covid, they aren't dying of something else that they normally would have died from. In addition, for several months we have seen that average medical people have been instructed to essentially lie about cause of death.

The only reason why there are lockdowns is, the government people are trying to figure a way out of their dilemma of not doing due diligence in the first place, so that the people don't lynch them when the truth goes public... that there really isn't any reason for a pandemic.

This is a very sad fact. In many countries, refusing to wear a mask entailed considerable fines, while people themselves understood the harm from this, but could not do anything due to political decisions.
They were not allowed to enter shops without a mask, and were scribbled on the street or in a public place. The pandemic and the methods applied to it have exposed many holes in current control systems.
Politicians have no idea what to do in such situations, because they are not doctors or engineers. What other decisions can you expect from them other than bad ones?

Well, it has always been a standard practice to hold your hand over your mouth when you cough or sneeze. It's only proper etiquette to wear a mask when you know you are sick... from any disease, like the common cold, for example. Good people don't simply go and cough and sneeze on the people around them intentionally.

So if you wear face mask on your nose / mouth, you take your virus back inside and if you wear below nose / mouth , you have chance to inhale the virus of other. Such a confusion it is.
The new set of instructions could be those who have fever, cough should be made to wear the mask and the rest should not wear the mask.

Except that scientific studies and trials show that a mask has nothing to do with stopping the spread of diseases like Covid.

Here is the only way that a mask can be effective. People BELIEVE that a mask is effective. And it works, because people BELIEVE. It's called placebo effect.

Placebo-effect trials showed that up to 33% of people who thought they were getting medicine, but were really only getting a sugar pill, got better anyway.

So, if masks help people to stay well because they believe, what about the truth? Check the science of masks - the nitty-gritty science studies reports, and see that masks don't help for diseases like Covid. They might help for some bacterial diseases, and for dust, but not for viruses.

Besides, the WHO already said that people who aren't sick don't spread the Covid through the air. So, mask wearers won't get sick from Covid anyway. Some of the mask lies can be counter effective when the disease really gets to them.

I don't understand how people see the record low cases in countries like Korea, Japan and Vietnam and say that wearing masks is manipulation and MSM lies. I don't know why it is so difficult for people like them to accept that wearing a mask is more effective than doing nothing.

Just don't wear one, be honest and say that you don't care about the disease spreading. It is more respectable than trying so hard to find implausible and ridiculous theories about lack of oxygen, mind control or other loony fabrication of their mind.

It is so sad because the U.S is the only country in the world who see that the facemasks are  scam and it is bad for their health. It is the main reason why the deaths in the U.S reached 146,00 + and counting. Their citizens are most likely dumb because they cannot follow rules that the government implemented. The total cases there is now 4 Million and it keep increasing and the people out there see that the face masks are scam and ineffective. There are now a lot of researches around the world about how face masks can prevent us to have virus.

You don't know this^^ for a fact. It's what this topic is all about.

People who wear face masks and don't get Covid are protected by what? All kinds of non-scientific research says that masks protect them. All kinds of scientific research says that masks don't do anything. So, what protects them?

Placebo science studies show us that people are affected by what they believe. This science has shown that it's around 33% that are so affected.

With a lot of people that Jesus healed, He said, "According to your faith will it be done unto you." Placebo effect is showing us that Jesus was right.

It's not the masks. It's placebo effect.

Masks are effective if you change them regularly! Sometimes I meet people who don't change them! In that case, they can only hurt! Similarly, rag face masks can't resist the virus! So in part, I agree that masks are not effective against the virus... But if you do everything by the book, there is protection!

First, medical people will have a difficult time in court proving TDR-TB when asked the right questions by a medical expert witness.

Second, prove that the infection of anybody else who comes down with TDR-TB was infected by this guy. Done properly in court, there is probably going to be no way that a link like that can be proven.

Since the lab results showing what Covid is, are all based on Chinese failures to properly do an identification of Covid, nobody knows what Covid is. This being the fact, somebody needs to start proving which thing is Covid, and which thing is not. If they don't, anybody can say that he is not Covid positive simply by requiring proof of Covid, which proof doesn't exist.

Part of the proof for a viral disease is, taking the purified and thoroughly identified virus, and intentionally placing it into an asymptomatic person to see if he will develop the disease. In 100% of the test cases (according to the reports), the Covid disease has not been properly identified in the first place, to say nothing about injecting it into a non-sick person. Covid is an unknown.

Or, prove it.

Let me ask you a question. Let's take the example of an individual, who is suspected to be suffering from TDR-TB (Totally drug-resistant tuberculosis). The doctors ask him to undergo home isolation, and advise him to come out of his house only in emergency situations if he wears a mask. They make this advise, because TDR-TB is a highly contagious and dangerous disease.

Now the individual refuses to do so. He says that he has the right to travel. He want to go to a park (without a mask). In this case are you still going to support him?

I will support someone's right for not wearing a mask, if he can produce a lab result showing that he is not infected from COVID 19. The only condition is that the lab result should be less than 24 hours old. Here the individual is not causing any risk to the others. If he gets the infection, it is entirely another topic.

This was a seriously shocking revelation about wearing face mask. But as we all know and what the healthcare professionals do mention that wearing face mask will serve as our barrier from foreign objects (i.e. dust, small particles, water droplets, etc) from entering our mouth as well as our nose. Since Coronavirus is said to be transferable through droplets, wearing face mask is essential to be done to at least prevent the spread of virus. It is not just a placebo effect but the reality since medical experts and decades of usage have already proved the effectivity of wearing face mask most specially when going outside. Indeed that it is not enough to just wear mask because we do also in need to follow other health precautionary measures to be able to keep ourselves from getting caught of being infected by the virus.

Face masks are our main barrier or protection from the outside but taking good care of ourselves like strengthening our immune system through taking healthy foods, heathy life style and vitamins will be more essential to keep ourselves safe all the time. Wearing a mask is also in need to take responsibility by changing it and not always using only one mask to dispose the potential virus that have been stuck on the mask you have used.

No, I don't know the type. Never heard anything like that.

For me it is really stupidity, I do not know why people keep insisting that face masks are ineffective where there are a lot of recent studies that it is effective and it is important to use in order to lessen the infection in certain community. It is really funny and a bit sad to see that there are people in the interview where face mask is bad for their skin and health and it is the reason why they are not using it. Their is a recent citizen in the U.S who said that he cannot get the virus even if he is not wearing a mask but now he is dead and now been cremated.

In fact, yes, the illusion sometimes becomes more fatal than the disease itself. Here, in my country, a young woman mixed two chemicals for cleaning and disinfection in an exaggerated way, which led to the release of toxic vapor as a result of mixing the two materials. The woman embraced this toxic gas and died after being transferred to the hospital. This is one of the incidents that Show the exaggerated effect of illness or death that led to the death of this lady.

The number of individuals infected by wearing a maskwearing an infectious mask decreases source control because it reduces the number of drops that begin during the speech by about 99%. This probably reduces the probabilities of an unintentional wearer being infected somewhat although it's less effective for this as many stems quickly evaporate into tiny droplets of nuclei that are hard to the dam. The reduction within the number of infected people features a significant effect because it reduces the effective birthrate r Also most masks don’t work they're flimsy and aren't hermetically sealed if your mask has flaws it's no real benefit it'll only act as a consequence assuring you that you simply are safe.

"did you get that"?
N95 and SURGICAL grade masks are the same high quality

yep
surgical masks are NOT just 'cloth face coverings' they are surgical grade masks made specifically to meet a high standard.
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yep its not saying n95 and surgical masks are useless.. its saying they are of same high quality
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face coverings made of cloth from old t-shirts at home are less protective than n95/surgical masks
but still better then nothing at all
again the best advice is to respect personal space if you cant get hold of a high grade mask.
but for that extra protection wear something.

also its not about being 100% 'prevention' its about reduction
again low dosage/less battle vs high dosage major infection fight

if you want to invade sick peoples personal space unprotected to get a high dose and risk getting very sick so be it. be an idiot.
or you can take the advice and stay at a distance have some kind of covering/mask to reduce the viral load more so you can get a low dose and not have much of a battle/sickness to fight

its way cheaper to stay at a distance than to be buying dozens of high grade masks per week
meaning respect for personal space costs nothing.

kinda funny
the faux media that was trying to promote herd immunity is now subliminally advertising people buy body suits
its weird how these faux media are not using the science to their advantage to tell people that getting low dose infections by respecting distance and wearing some kind of viral load reduction method. can actually be of benefit to herd immunity

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as for saying that wearing facemasks cause injuries. well that just needs common sense to not wear a mask 24/7 and instead take it off. kinda the same advice needed for the idiots wearing the same underwear for weeks without changing can cause issues. im sure those idiots know what im talking about.
you know the type. they wear the same underwear for weeks. get chaffing in their sensative regions and decide from then on to walk around in public naked, saying clothing is a health risk.

so here is the lesson for those idiots
respect peoples personal space. and change / remove a mask more often than underwear. but when out in public wear a something.. yep that includes wear underwear.
its about hygiene of regular use and regular replace. not avoiding wearing things all together due to lazyness being the real health risk

if you want to be out in public respect other people

^^^ In the USA you can make money if the authorities stop you for no face mask. Property rights, and the right to travel are basic freedoms in the USA. Anybody who doesn't like being stopped, can sue the government people in court and win.

Mas is really important as of this current situation, I realized that mask is now part of our daily lives because we can't go outside without it, thinking that we are prone from disease or virus if dont have it and thunking also that we will get punished by some authorities once they catch us without it. Before wearing mask symbolizes that you have flu or you are sick because it's not normal in our country but now all people are wearing it.

No you didn’t you left out Hillary and Badecker.




It is not about Trump,Hillary or Badecker.

It is about the 1.2 billion worldwide 45 million in the USA that can be targeted by both the manipulating left and right media.

A mask is just another way to get that 1/7 of the world going against their own best interests.

Well, you're right about it going away. But there's nothing magical about it.

Everybody knows that the whole covid scam was fabricated by the MSM to brainwash people into giving their money to greedy doctors and trans-national mask manufacturing cartels.

All people need to do is drink colloidal silver until they're blue in the face, chant mantras, and vote for Donald Trump.

Then it will "magically" just go away.
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Edit:

Oops. I almost forgot to mention chemtrails and microchip vaccines.

I summarized your messaging.

For all the desperate attempts at debunking masks, why is it so hard to understand that an N95 will prevent virus carrying aerosols in case you happen to pass through a crowded area OR a room OR a workplace setting. Its basic precaution to maintain distance and check the spread. If it spreads in your community, you WILL get it sooner or later. You may recover without knowing or may need medical care which needs to be available and not occupied by someone else if you get it.

The mask, avoiding crowded areas, maintaining physical distance is only a very small attempt at letting those who will have severe cases have a chance at getting the right facilities. What is so hard to understand about it that people are so worried about masks and shutting down businesses. Also, how exactly do the bankers benefit by social distancing and people wearing masks?

Honestly, what good do you think you are doing by protesting wearing of a mask?

This worried me for a while, but I got over it.

We need is bulletproof-vest-and-mask-combos. This would protect against the tiny disease bullets and the big hot lead bullets. Other options could be available.

BVMC-LJ, Life Jacket option, protection against sudden torrential floods.
BVMC-AB Airbag option, protect against vehicular crashes
BVMC-P, Parachute Option. Just in case of airplane problems.
BVMC-DC, Dual Cowboy Six Gun option to protect against violent rioters.

no you are wrong. badecker has acknowledged the simple fact of the IQ bell curve.

WTF am I talking about?

Here in the USA 51 million people have an IQ under 85

He appeals to them.
Much like Donald Trump does.

The core base of badecker's followers simple are not intelligent.
Once you recognize that 14% of the human population has an iq under 85 you go after them.
Of course some of the people that surround a Trump or a badecker are smart with iq's over 115.

All of these smart ones think it is their god given right to lead that flock of 1/7 of humanity the unfortunate less than average people.




So I found the standard iq bell curve and it shows what most educators target
I added info on the section badecker  and trump target.

that group of people have functional intelligence.  it is about 1/7 of the world.  or over 1 billion people.

That are stupid , but smart enough to survive on their own.

more than enough to be used for all the wrong reasons.  Trump's people Target them constantly as does badecker.

I like badecker as he makes it obvious as to what he is doing.  Btw Trump makes no real effort to hide his core followers.

The real problem is Hillary Clinton's comments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basket_of_deplorables


"Basket of deplorables."

Those 1/7 of the human race are not deplorables they are people.

Which is why they get pissed off when smug Democrat's mock them.

Ok, so I go out of the house and into the car, I drive to a gas station, then to a public park, how am I getting shot at by covid aerosols?
I don't do covid tests because they suck and in most cases come out inconclusive. Also they're pretty expensive.
No symptoms = no virus. It's been months and still I haven't heard of anyone that I know who had it or at least felt bad and thought it's because of the virus. All my friends have been living their lives as usual, travelling, having barbecues with friends, going to parties, shopping. None of them had any symptoms.


About 60% of people I see in publc places go around with no mask or with its upper part barely touching the mouth. Pretty much a dead law.

ROFL.  'big holes', 'mostly it's okay'.  You are going for that 'vintage look'.

I say it is time to cough up a few bucks and buy a new mask.

This old mask is a proven workhorse. It has a layer built up of bad stuff so thick, nothing else can get in. I recall back when it was white. That was before the green and brown spots started growing. Are they supposed to do that?

Also whatever microbes were in the spots disintegrated parts of the mask, so there are big holes in it now. But most of it's okay. It's got a lot of life left in it.

I understand that the virus only lasts about 5 minutes on copper sheet or an unsanitised human hand.

Old masks are as good as new by exposing them to UV light for an hour or so; or few minutes in the microwave, if Sun light is not available where you live (under the rock?).

Bacteria cannot live without water source. Viruses were never alive, but you need to disrupt hydrogen bonds and non-polar hydrophobic interactions to disable their replication mechanism.  Heat, UV light, alcohol, reducing agents etc.

When an aerosol with Covid-19 virus drops on something, the virus becomes ineffective by ifself after few hours but in some cases it takes days for the virus to become ineffective.

Placebo and mind control 100%
I can't believe people are still trusting some wannabe experts and governments who are asking mandatory face masks.
Ask any real doctor or nurse about mask and homemade masks or read note on mask package please.
Even notorious WHO is not recommending wearing face mask for general population....

That is probably healthier than reinfecting themselves by rebreathing their virus laden exhaled air.

I have seen many people wear face mask because it is mandatory to wear it as per the laws of the country. They wear it below their chins just to show that they are wearing a mask.

People do not use face masks correctly. You don't need reports and stats to confirm this. Just park in a supermarket car park and watch the shoppers.

Face masks do not protect the wearer, but are used to contain the virus, and thus prevent it spreading. This means that the virus is within the mask, and will probably be breather back into the wearers body. This increases the work that the immune system has to do.

Face mask restrict the release of carbon dioxide, and reduce oxygen intake. This is another thing that increases the workload on the immune system.

Disposal pof face masks presents yet another method for spreading the virus, as most people are careless and inconsiderate.

The northern hemisphere is in the middle of summer, and this is the time when we have the greatest ability to build immunity to viruses. It seems madness to me to restrict the spread of the virus dyring this healthy period, and wait until the unhealthy winter to try to cope with an increased number of infections.

This thread seems quite strange to me...
We all know that the virus is transmitted though saliva droplets, the masks blocks these droplets, so using a mask is useful to stop the virus transmission. I don't know why people do so much mental gymnastics and try to argue it's ineffective.


Then there is some people saying in bad faith that wearing a mask for a few minutes can be dangerous or have effects worse than using masks, but not giving any source or even seeming to have basic common sense...

I can understand people saying that don't want to use a mask simply because they don't want to. But stop trying to justify it with a bogus scientific claim, you just sound more stupid...

Your old N95 mask can harm you more than not wearing a mask. I think you should read the Recommended Guidance for Extended Use and Limited Reuse of N95 Filtering Facepiece Respirators in Healthcare Settings
Most of these masks are made for limited use only and should be dispose off after the use.

I've got a dingy old N95 mask that's been used a hundred times in abut six Montths. It's got a rich harvest on it from everywhere it's been. Of course, it's never been cleaned or touched. Touch it? Who knows what nasties are there. This mask, I would feel guilty wearing it around my worst enemies.

Also there is a phycological factor involved in it. When you wear a mask and the other person wear a mask, both of the person believe and thinks that virus cannot harm them as there is no way for a virus to transmit trough nose and mouth. The person who is suffering from covid 19 MUST wear the mask so that others are not effected by the disease.

That's what has been happening for thousands of year. People have been just fine getting shot with aerosols. Coronavirus has been around as long as the common cold, because it IS the common cold.

Now you want to break the cycle of health that we all have, by locking down and masking... something nobody has done on a scale this large before, so there is no idea what will happen.

Are the people at risk of developing these symptoms at risk of developing severe symptoms when they are contracting covid-19 by going out in the streets?

Yeah it is all mind games, i know many people who think that there is no virus and pandemic and i have seen them fit and healthy. Freely moving everywhere and still they have not got infected so psychology really works.

It's a little more complicated than that. If a person wears a mask on the street, he may have serious enough consequences such as pulmonary emphysema, bronchial asthma and a huge number of bacterial, allergic or fungal diseases.

When you are getting shot at (corona aerosols) every time you go out, it might not be such a bad idea to wear some protection; or stay the fuck at home.

How do you know you are not infected/shedding the virus?  Are you getting Covid-19 tests done every 5 days?

It's like wearing a bulletproof vest all the time because you might get shot one day. What's the point of making your life harder just because you're a scared weirdo?
I wear a mask in stores just because it makes people more comfortable around me and I don't want to make a scene. I don't believe it helps in any way because I'm not sick and won't spread the virus and I'm also not afraid of catching it. I know people who had it and the only symptom they've experienced was a headache. So, I wear it for others not for me, but I'm not going to wear it everywhere, that would be a huge burden to ride a bicycle or walk on a hot day with a mask on. They tried to enforce it like 2 months ago but most people were ignoring it. We even had the police chase people around for not wearing masks, trying to fine them.

I've spent a lot of time trying to find some decent real scientific evidence that supports the mass wearing  of face masks, and I can'y find any. This is especially true as most people seem to have no idea as to how to use them. I seem them littered around in car parks, and left in supermarket trolleys, and they must provide nice safe homes for the virus. There is a possible case for health care workers who are exposed to multiple variants of the virus, and may possibly overload their immune systems, but for the 95% of the population that is unlikely to have serious complications from the virus, they do more harm than good. Not only do they reduce oxygen intake, but they reintroduce expelled pathogens which can get into the red blood cells, and cause clumping. This can lead to hypoxia.

I seem to be one of the few people who are pleased that infections are increasing ( as long as deaths and ICU admissions are reducing ), and the sooner we can achieve natural immunity from what is a not very serious virus, then the sooner we can stop the damage that the bankers are causing from the lock downs, and also it should enable us to resist the enforced take over of out immune systems by the  globalists with their public admitted eugenics programmes. If you want to wear a mask, then you should be allowed to do so, but please don't try to force people with more awareness of the real situation to copy you.

Why wearing a mask in the fresh air hurt people ? It can be useless, but I can't how it can hurt them. Our body is adapted to function in various atmospheric situations (high altitude, low oxygen, high effort, etc) so how could a slightly lower air flow irreparably hurt people?

I don't see anything wrong with a person wearing a mask in a store that he will take off when he comes out of it, but some people wear masks even when walking in the fresh air or playing sports, which is irreparable harm to their health.

I agree. All the masks have their place. N95's and lower quality aren't any good for blocking viruses in any way that is going to slow a pandemic. And even the N95's have their unhealthy, bad points.

That's a part of what I'm talking about.

All kinds of people have used N95 masks for decades. We know a lot about them. It's absurd to suddenly come up and claim they're worthless.

I just like them for the dust. And it's the perfect excuse to get a hazmat suit.

Ben Swann does seem to be a little different in his video that what he led us to expect - BADecker. But he seems to have the reports that show that masks don't do much if anything other than harming their wearers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8upEg-bEJ8

Of course, The Highwire has had several different professionals on their program over the months, who explain why all masks except airtight body suits (spacesuits) are useless in stopping Covid. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos

Since the media is kicking a lot of users who show these things off their platforms, it is becoming more and more difficult to find them.

No there are not. That's an idiotic statement. N95 has been used for decades, studied carefully. It's used in many fields not just medicine.

We really know A LOT about the N95 mask.

That "we," seems to exclude "you."

It acts as barrier which stops aerosol from mouth from spreading all around. Maybe it is not 100% protection but it offers some protection which is better than none.

^^^ Yet there are all kinds of professionals that show that N95 masks are just about worthless.

So, you DID make it out fishing today.

badecker knows if people actually protect themselves.. then they wont get sick to want to buy his affiliated herbal remedies and snake oil

cloth face coverings made of an old t-shirt are not effective. but an n95 mask is 95% effective

funny part is badecker feels if he can say things on this forum. it will actually make his state rules/advice change. little does he know about how the real world works

Masks don't necessarily help you prevent the disease, but they certainly do help you prevent others from catching your disease.

Did you think that the whole point was to save yourself, rather than to prevent the spread of disease? Well, now you know.

So why do factory, farm, health care workers wear them?  To make themselves sick?

You are an idiot on wheels.  Masks provide a mechanical barrier to block small particles from entering your lungs.

N95 is the way to go.  Stop the insanity, wear the mask in public.

Wearing PPE during pandemics should be legislated not mandated.  People should be arrested and charged.

We have laws against operating vehicles under influence of drugs or alcohol. They are in place to protect drivers and others who share the same public roads. 

Same principle should be applied here.  Wear PPE, stop endengering yourself and OTHERS.

Don't be a dick.

Finally some people are getting it. Placebos count for as much as 33% of healings. This means that if people think that masks help, as many as 33% of them won't get sick. It's a mind game thing. But it works... at times.

Somebody might think that the article is trying to get rid of the placebo effect, and that the article is trying to cause people to become sick thereby. But this is not true. Here's why.

People only think that masks are protecting them from Covid. What they don't think about is mask damage to themselves, actually done by the masks. So, people still lose their health from things not in the Covid placebo idea. the result is sicker people all around... if they wear a mask. And that's what the money-hungry medical wants.


The Face Mask Placebo