Will you be joining in the fun of dumping your Bitcoin for Mircea Coin Classic when the moment arises hdbuck?
When he uses the word muppets, do you think you are in or out of that categorization?
I'll await your copy and paste reply.
Topic: The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream (Read 473 times)
So first, it's USGavincoin offering a heretical increase to a spam attack limit set several years ago. Now, it's blockstream core power rangers attempting heresy by separating signatures from blocks...
Will you be joining in the fun of dumping your Bitcoin for Mircea Coin Classic when the moment arises hdbuck?
When he uses the word muppets, do you think you are in or out of that categorization?
I'll await your copy and paste reply.
Will you be joining in the fun of dumping your Bitcoin for Mircea Coin Classic when the moment arises hdbuck?
When he uses the word muppets, do you think you are in or out of that categorization?
I'll await your copy and paste reply.
Apparently you know more than bitcoin's inventor...
The discussion of what "Satoshi himself" did or didn't do, meant or didn't mean, so on and so forth is about as interesting and discussing the Mormon "bible".
This is called "arguing to authority", and it tries to give pecuniary value to that only truly worthless article of all times and places : the esteem of the mob. This may work well in electing United States presidents, ensuring that "while the voting public knows best what it wants, it deserves to get it long and hard". Bitcoin specifically and deliberately does not work in this way.
I cant believe the amount of time that has been wasted thanks to the trolls that are always downvoting everyone that doesn't agree with a big block agenda. All this drama has been limiting the development of Bitcoin, not the lack of a ridiculous block size raise. The only real opposition against Bitcoin here are the pro XT/101 guys that don't get that their huge blocks will kill Bitcoin's decentralization. We already got a problem with mining being centralized, let's not end up the same with nodes ffs.
Apparently you know more than bitcoin's inventor...
The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be. Those few nodes will be big server farms. The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6306
I cant believe the amount of time that has been wasted thanks to the trolls that are always downvoting everyone that doesn't agree with a big block agenda. All this drama has been limiting the development of Bitcoin, not the lack of a ridiculous block size raise. The only real opposition against Bitcoin here are the pro XT/101 guys that don't get that their huge blocks will kill Bitcoin's decentralization. We already got a problem with mining being centralized, let's not end up the same with nodes ffs.
limit bitcoins decentralized distribution
less distributed
I cant believe the amount of time that has been wasted thanks to the trolls that are always downvoting everyone that doesn't agree with a big block agenda. All this drama has been limiting the development of Bitcoin, not the lack of a ridiculous block size raise. The only real opposition against Bitcoin here are the pro XT/101 guys that don't get that their huge blocks will kill Bitcoin's decentralization. We already got a problem with mining being centralized, let's not end up the same with nodes ffs.
from: http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-false-dilemma-of-xt-versus-blockstream/
Since the beginning of the XTCoin affair a substantial amount of social engineering has been directed into framing the Bitcoin blocksize as a polarized dispute between exactly two camps. One of these camps is the XTCoiners lead by former "Core" client developer and current United States Government Stooge Gavin Andresen working with Google washout Mike Hearn. The opposition is supposed to be lead by the current set of power rangers developing the "Core" Bitcoin client. This other side happens to be linked through a startup called "Blockstream" which also eventually wants to push through a heretical block size hardfork. The Blockstream difference is they don't want their hardfork until they sell miners on a number of less contentious "soft" forks to make Bitcoin safe for their hypothetical product.
This framing, which is being heavily pushed on social media and by the venture capital circus, completely ignores actual Bitcoin interests prepared to defend Bitcoin from hijacking, or it presents them as some part of the Blockstream camp. This happens in spite of certain Bitcoin interests being demonstrably not "in on" the larger Blockstream agenda.
Forcing a narrative dichotomy is a social engineering strategy which has had great success herding "the masses" in the past. Its most notable success was transforming domestic politics in the United States from a thing which was contested into a theater piece appearing to be a contest. During elections in the United States candidates present wildly differing visions, yet if elected they would carry out nearly the same agenda as their opponent. There's occasionally some inconsequential measure taken to recognize the camp that turned out the most votes, but the actual impact of a US election is trivial. The mechanism working here along with the final outcome are exactly the same as they are in sports fandom. A surrogate tribal identity is cultured by marketing to a large mass of people. Despite the marketing they are fed, they are in fact irrelevant to and unaffected by the actual outcome. Their carefully manicured tribal identity however leads them to believe otherwise.
The XT side of the blocksize debate counts numerous fiat/BTC interfaces and YCombinator backed startups desperately hoping microtransactions just might make them viable as supporters. They have been working to build a froth among people too poor to consider a Bitcoin network with any possible set of merits worthwhile should they ever have to spend so much as a whole dollar's equivalent in transaction fees. This powerless and impoverished mass is made to feel further aggrieved through Y Combinator backed social media outlet Reddit's /r/bitcoin "community" having a moderation policy in opposition to "their" team. What interest does it serve Y Combinator to have Theymos continue running /r/Bitcoin and "censor" marketing for other properties like Coinbase? It contributes to uniting the fandom through shared adversity, and this raises serious questions about who is actually DDoSing XT nodes.
With one tribal identity solidified, everyone else is framed as "the opposition" to XTCoin. An emphasis goes on "the" so that the opposition might be treated in the "debate" as a singular other tribe. The XT opposition's only actual unifying factor is they don't want that stupid populist idiocy to succeed, but their face is framed as Blockstream, a different populist idiocy. Blockstream which "just happens" to employ many of the "Core" client power rangers is "conveniently" there to serve as the "face" of the opposition.
As this performance continues, remember to consider the economic actors missing from various compromise hard fork proposals. These parties are withholding consensus essential to change and some possess the economic force to sink a hardfork.
There is no actual serious blocksize "debate" at present, just an elaborate show creating the appearance of one.
Since the beginning of the XTCoin affair a substantial amount of social engineering has been directed into framing the Bitcoin blocksize as a polarized dispute between exactly two camps. One of these camps is the XTCoiners lead by former "Core" client developer and current United States Government Stooge Gavin Andresen working with Google washout Mike Hearn. The opposition is supposed to be lead by the current set of power rangers developing the "Core" Bitcoin client. This other side happens to be linked through a startup called "Blockstream" which also eventually wants to push through a heretical block size hardfork. The Blockstream difference is they don't want their hardfork until they sell miners on a number of less contentious "soft" forks to make Bitcoin safe for their hypothetical product.
This framing, which is being heavily pushed on social media and by the venture capital circus, completely ignores actual Bitcoin interests prepared to defend Bitcoin from hijacking, or it presents them as some part of the Blockstream camp. This happens in spite of certain Bitcoin interests being demonstrably not "in on" the larger Blockstream agenda.
Forcing a narrative dichotomy is a social engineering strategy which has had great success herding "the masses" in the past. Its most notable success was transforming domestic politics in the United States from a thing which was contested into a theater piece appearing to be a contest. During elections in the United States candidates present wildly differing visions, yet if elected they would carry out nearly the same agenda as their opponent. There's occasionally some inconsequential measure taken to recognize the camp that turned out the most votes, but the actual impact of a US election is trivial. The mechanism working here along with the final outcome are exactly the same as they are in sports fandom. A surrogate tribal identity is cultured by marketing to a large mass of people. Despite the marketing they are fed, they are in fact irrelevant to and unaffected by the actual outcome. Their carefully manicured tribal identity however leads them to believe otherwise.
The XT side of the blocksize debate counts numerous fiat/BTC interfaces and YCombinator backed startups desperately hoping microtransactions just might make them viable as supporters. They have been working to build a froth among people too poor to consider a Bitcoin network with any possible set of merits worthwhile should they ever have to spend so much as a whole dollar's equivalent in transaction fees. This powerless and impoverished mass is made to feel further aggrieved through Y Combinator backed social media outlet Reddit's /r/bitcoin "community" having a moderation policy in opposition to "their" team. What interest does it serve Y Combinator to have Theymos continue running /r/Bitcoin and "censor" marketing for other properties like Coinbase? It contributes to uniting the fandom through shared adversity, and this raises serious questions about who is actually DDoSing XT nodes.
With one tribal identity solidified, everyone else is framed as "the opposition" to XTCoin. An emphasis goes on "the" so that the opposition might be treated in the "debate" as a singular other tribe. The XT opposition's only actual unifying factor is they don't want that stupid populist idiocy to succeed, but their face is framed as Blockstream, a different populist idiocy. Blockstream which "just happens" to employ many of the "Core" client power rangers is "conveniently" there to serve as the "face" of the opposition.
As this performance continues, remember to consider the economic actors missing from various compromise hard fork proposals. These parties are withholding consensus essential to change and some possess the economic force to sink a hardfork.
There is no actual serious blocksize "debate" at present, just an elaborate show creating the appearance of one.
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