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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

You are making the assumption that the next time we see a bull run investors are going to learn their lesson and will invest only in proven concepts instead of coins with absolutely nothing behind them, and while that will be nice to see I do not believe it for a second, the next time we see a bull run investors will try to maximize their profits and if that means investing in speculative coins they will do it, this will lead us to see another huge bubble forming and then to a new crash even bigger than the one suffered at the end of 2017.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

Bitcoin fell down a bit because the "war" between China and the USA is almost finished - now, people feel more secured with fiat. Besides, some holders (especially those, who suffered in 2018), became more nervous, and they are afraid Btc can fall to 7000 USD. I do not mean that the reason for the next bull run will be something like this economical war.
Suppose, more proofs that BTC has many advantages will be a trigger of its next growth.

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Quote from: Tallos on August 28, 2019, 05:16:49 AM

Many things happen in the background when you read the news so you see how fast this market is growing. But it looks like someone doesn't want the price to go up and want to buy as much as possible at the lowest price (maybe Bakkt, Fidelity or ETF funds?) Cool

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Bitcoin and whales cant solely determine the bullrun, though we encourage the btc trade for commodities but the altcoin-bitcoin was the most effective and efficient for the bullrun, ICOs helped pretty good to bring larger sum of money that could drive us to previous ATH. We believe the expected regulations will bring institutions to play a big part this time bringing larger fund and use case but we have not seen much as expected this year.

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Quote from: Maxre on September 01, 2019, 10:05:12 PM

bullrun is not something that can be predicted by anyone.
As for the fuel for the occurrence of bullrun can be with anything depending on the situation and market conditions at the time.

Agree, but base on the forthcoming bull run, the bull run will depends on the particular token or coin usability in real world and not just that its a digital currency like what we have seen in the past particularly in 2017. The next bull run will be absolutely different according to OP because investors have know be wiser than before and will not take any chances of running into lost again like in 2018. The possibility of not seeing some tokens or coins experiencing the bull run will be there.

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It is true that back in 2017 coins without any value gave the best profits, but are things really different right now? People are facing scams every day, and the most projects from top 50 on coinmarketcap are still without any working product.

Perhaps these coins have a finished and working product. There is still a question about the value of products that are associated with a coin or token. Product value is a key factor for the success of an entire company.

Many projects we have now have no vale on them other than the promises of increasing investors’ money, and I do ask that I what way will they do that? Because I believe that what makes a product get the demand it has today is the quality of product that they have which is needed and necessary for every consumer to use, and a product that is not just limit to a consumer to be used once, but what a consumer will always need often, that is the only project that will always call for demands and these are the type of project that can call for bull run.

The project we have now, have nothing to write home about and they lack the capacity to fuel the next bull run because they are not much attractive other than the already existing projects like Ethereum, binance and some other few coins that we have in the market as top 100.

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I think the time has come that cryptocurrency start enforcing its concepts and technology. Unlike in the past, they cannot survive without their real usage. So far almost all coins are being operated based on hype and speculation. As a result, many of coins without real use have been eliminated from the market. The market is in need of real usage projects at present.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

Without a massive influx of investments in altcoins, there will be no bull wound. The influx of investments can provide new investors who can come to the crypto market, including under the influence of hype or because of the collapse of other markets. Also, investments in altcoins are possible if there is an outflow of money from Bitcoin.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

But the next bull will be quite different from that

it's just your assume thing, Altcoin have different one than other. it's like when you bought altcoin at same category, it's can be useless than other one at same like those category.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

The next growth of the cryptocurrency market really will not be similar to the growth in 2017 and this should be agreed. We should also agree with the statement that there was a lot of hype around the rise in cryptocurrency prices. However, in this case, any growth in the cryptocurrency market will be associated with an increase in excitement. First of all, this applies to bitcoin, which over the past few years has changed little in functional terms. However, since 2017, many altcoin projects have made significant progress, and their price has not only not increased, but dropped hundreds of times. So how will the cryptocurrency market behave in the next wave of growth?

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Quote from: Maxre on September 01, 2019, 10:05:12 PM

bullrun is not something that can be predicted by anyone.
As for the fuel for the occurrence of bullrun can be with anything depending on the situation and market conditions at the time.

It's hard to predict the future of this industry, market movements will be depending with how adoptions will take place, with more players to buy in and increase their investment inside the higher chances that bull will come along with them, there's no easy access but it's hardwork that will determine if you'll be able to catch up with the right position.

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bullrun is not something that can be predicted by anyone.
As for the fuel for the occurrence of bullrun can be with anything depending on the situation and market conditions at the time.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

That's really True, the next bull run will in fact be caused by wide acceptance of of cryptocurrencies into existing platforms etc which is come to be known as use case. Last bull run made a lot of people to be holders of shitcoins but I don't think a greater number will fall for this again, it either valuable coins or nothing. I for example, am holding only few coins with great prospects and within top 100 so I can increase my chances of success.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

We will never know when the cryptocurrency bull run occurring again, but i believe it will happening.
and we should not expecting the bull run too much, because our expectation may not meet at all.
Real life adoption is one of the factor that maybe drive the cryptocurrency bull run again.

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Quote from: aemma on September 01, 2019, 04:27:40 PM

Yes I agree, because I was a victim; that is I bought many shitcoins based on hype and I never recovered my money, but I learnt a lot though.
Nevertheless, almost everyone in this space is now wise and won't be victims of shitcoins again, that is to say the next anticipated bull run will solely be based on use case and what the project is bringing or solving already. So in all things, it is worthwhile to be careful and mindful of what we buy so as to partake in the next bull run.

A lot of people being a victim of that 2017 hypes and a lot of shitcoins turns into valuable which people think of buying and become profitable but it turns into a big horror when it drops drastically and individually suffer losses. It is really disappointing but it gives some learnings.

Our chances to recover those losses is too thin and only we can make it if we wait for the next bull run or diversify that shitcoin into valuable coins. Have to restart it now since the price is at low.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

That is all truly correct there have a lot of people get hugeable profits holding cheap coins, but we do not compare it in this incoming expectations for the another bull run before end of this year.
Juat relax and wait where bitcoin get reach, I think the fuel for the next bull run is the company's in the different countries continue to adopt bitcoinas payment.

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Yes I agree, because I was a victim; that is I bought many shitcoins based on hype and I never recovered my money, but I learnt a lot though.
Nevertheless, almost everyone in this space is now wise and won't be victims of shitcoins again, that is to say the next anticipated bull run will solely be based on use case and what the project is bringing or solving already. So in all things, it is worthwhile to be careful and mindful of what we buy so as to partake in the next bull run.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

Actually you must remember that not a single cryptocurrency has widespread adoption yet - not even Bitcoin. Because crypto still has a steep learning curve to use. Far more easier to use credit cards and fiat for currencies and centralized services are still much easier to use.

So, the next bull run will still be fueled by hype and speculation.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

If tomorrow in the cryptocurrency market and each altcoin starts to make big jumps in price one after another, the hype in 2019 will not be worse than in 2017, because now there are much more investors on the market with money who are waiting for when it will be possible to invest in altcoins . It remains only to wait for the start.

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Quote from: shurpall on September 01, 2019, 04:02:22 PM

Hmm, sounds familiar, thanks a lot for sharing. Will have a look!

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Quote from: vanimis on September 01, 2019, 04:01:51 PM

I have been using bitrexchange com several times already, worked fine for me

Hmm, sounds familiar, thanks a lot for sharing. Will have a look!

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Quote from: shurpall on September 01, 2019, 04:00:49 PM

Can you outline? Interested to have a look, might be useful

I have been using bitrexchange com several times already, worked fine for me

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Quote from: vanimis on September 01, 2019, 04:00:08 PM

Yep, I have. There are several really good ones

Can you outline? Interested to have a look, might be useful

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Quote from: shurpall on September 01, 2019, 03:59:15 PM

In such a situation it is necessary to convert before investing. By the way, have you ever worked with exchanges?

Yep, I have. There are several really good ones

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Quote from: vanimis on September 01, 2019, 03:58:28 PM

This is true. And that's why it is necessary to evaluate in more details before investing. And there are also good solutions that do not accept cards, thus require crypto

In such a situation it is necessary to convert before investing. By the way, have you ever worked with exchanges?

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Quote from: shurpall on September 01, 2019, 03:57:30 PM

I have even recently discovered that it is now possible to invest right with the card. So the process is definitely becoming more and more simple

This is true. And that's why it is necessary to evaluate in more details before investing. And there are also good solutions that do not accept cards, thus require ceypto

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Quote from: vanimis on September 01, 2019, 03:56:34 PM

This is true. But still some projects require deeper evaluation and higher experience. But yes, investment process is becoming easier

I have even recently discovered that it is now possible to invest right with the card. So the process is definitely becoming more and more simple

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Quote from: shurpall on September 01, 2019, 03:54:53 PM

In my opinion, what is also interesting - solutions are getting more and more adopted these days, so for example, talking about IEOs, people can invest easier, with higher confidence etc

This is true. But still some projects require deeper evaluation and higher experience. But yes, investment process is becoming easier

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In my opinion, what is also interesting - solutions are getting more and more adopted these days, so for example, talking about IEOs, people can invest easier, with higher confidence etc

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

This will not still trigger the bull run for the whole crypto market, but that the individual coins in separation, that are able to provide solutions to pressing problems and are able to deliver to pressing needs, will grow like what coins experienced during the last bull run.
It is also necessary that companies, firm, groups, important personalities, governments and the world, in general, to adopt cryptocurrency, before there can be general bull run, because we need more investors to come into the crypto space.

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I also believe in that. With the passage of time, crypto industry is getting matured and the early free money collectors are pretty much gone now. Now only the good products will sell. So the bull run will come but it is going to be a mature bull run. Also the investors are alot more intelligent now.

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People now are more intelligent about investing in cryptos, at least the one who invested in 2017 in bad projects and lost money with dead coins
It's a normal movement of market, coins without any use, will die, and people will lose money, but the smart ones will look for only good projects to invest
In a normal market, this alone won't be the "fuel" to a bull run, I think it needs more

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

In bull run a lot of stupid money gets in and they will also found useless projects. That is how it is and I doubt it will be any different in 2021. We need to survive sideways 2015 and then in 2016 party will slowly start.

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Quote from: coaprotet on August 31, 2019, 12:12:24 PM

It is true that back in 2017 coins without any value gave the best profits, but are things really different right now? People are facing scams every day, and the most projects from top 50 on coinmarketcap are still without any working product.

Perhaps these coins have a finished and working product. There is still a question about the value of products that are associated with a coin or token. Product value is a key factor for the success of an entire company.

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The market for now is not clear if the bull run will happen again but we are facing a lot of changes and adoptions in this year, crypto has double its users and that's a good sign but we are in crypto anything can happen. I am hoping also that the bull run will come this year

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It is true that back in 2017 coins without any value gave the best profits, but are things really different right now? People are facing scams every day, and the most projects from top 50 on coinmarketcap are still without any working product.

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In reality, now Bull Run is still not happening anymore. I have thought that with the return of Bitcoin the price rises very high, this is Bull Run. But this Bitcoin increase is like bait, for people again interested in investing.

Altcoin in 2019 did not respond well to the increase in Bitcoin prices. But I still believe that one day the Bull Run will be there. Probably at the end of 2019 years or at 2020.

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I think, regulation will be the best answer on this.
This will fuel that price in the market because of the rise of demand.
Once regulated there will be many country using it because of the local merchants accepting BTC.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

How do you see the acceptance of cryptocurrency by most people? It should be payment in cryptocurrency in everyday life? I think still the next bull run should be based on freely available institutional players in the cryptocurrency market through Bakkt and analogues.

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Quote from: ven7net on August 31, 2019, 03:19:05 AM

You're right! Do not wait on the next growth of the crypto market that the entire cryptocurrency will give a profit or even show growth. This time, success will be for those whose platforms have the right products and applications. I believe that this is good for the cryptocurrency market as a whole, as it will clear the market of garbage projects.

Projects who really focused helping the industry and have a good reason to continue, there's a big changes from investors points of view it will clean up the entire industry after selecting good projects from those who only being created to decieve and collect funds without any usage, the next rise will be for those who are really aiming to succeed from the venue they plan to be helpful.

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I believe people have learnt a lot in just jumping into investing in to altcoins all in the name of making profits from cryptocurrency. And I believe that will make newly coming projects suffer investors.

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Quote from: No One on August 30, 2019, 11:36:54 PM

Until sometimes, hype had determined the value of coins in most cases. But now the time is changing and coins are under pressure to perform well to survive. So competition has started taking place among coins. Now we can expect performance of coins based on their real value.

I agree that altcoin competition should be based on the potential of the project being worked on. To repeat the altitude that happened like in 2017, I think patience is needed because what is needed now is the adoption of a product that is produced from a new project or an existing project

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Quote from: tycsols on August 27, 2019, 03:55:28 PM

How can be so sure about that? Personally i disagree because i have experienced a couple of last market cycles and we have seen that once the cycle starts it becomes unstoppable and there is automatic and unlimited hype and fomo 8n the market which results in explosive growth of almost all the major coins, the pattern flows from btc to eth and then rest of the alts.

So are you saying the next bullrun will just be the same with what happened in 2017? if that's the case then it will really be good but i doubt it because ICO market took a big part in 2017 and tons of huge money flew into crypto market back then,ICO market helped the crypto market of 2017 a lot and look now its not like in the past

If an altseason occurs, I think it will not be like what happened in 2017. Current market conditions are very different and many projects cannot meet their own roadmap, other than that the current market cap value is much reduced compared to the end of 2017. At the moment many investors are prefer bitcoin because of its investment safety factor amidst volatile altcoin price movements.

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You're right! Do not wait on the next growth of the crypto market that the entire cryptocurrency will give a profit or even show growth. This time, success will be for those whose platforms have the right products and applications. I believe that this is good for the cryptocurrency market as a whole, as it will clear the market of garbage projects.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

I don't think that the next bull run will be like that because I think people will not care if the next bull run will come from the shitcoin. As long as they can sell at the very highest price and that is from the shitcoin, they will do and get the biggest profit. People have a big passion for making a big profit now, and they still waiting for the unknown time to see the bull run.

Sometimes, the market needs support from the shitcoin, and if the shitcoin can increase and make a bull run, I guess that will attract the other coin to rise higher and start the other bull run too. You will see it later when the bull run come, and I think you will amaze with the market movements.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

Perhaps it will be so, no one knows when there will be the next growth of the cryptocurrency market and whether it will be at all, and of course if the cryptocurrency will market grow, it may not be as so huge as it was in 2017, most likely there will be a small growth and we should already adapt to this and not wait for any huge pump, but Bitcoin is still able to give a good profit before halving and we should not miss this moment, there will still be a small pump in the cryptocurrency market at the end of the year, this is already a tradition.

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Quote from: tycsols on August 27, 2019, 03:55:28 PM

How can be so sure about that? Personally i disagree because i have experienced a couple of last market cycles and we have seen that once the cycle starts it becomes unstoppable and there is automatic and unlimited hype and fomo 8n the market which results in explosive growth of almost all the major coins, the pattern flows from btc to eth and then rest of the alts.

So are you saying the next bullrun will just be the same with what happened in 2017? if that's the case then it will really be good but i doubt it because ICO market took a big part in 2017 and tons of huge money flew into crypto market back then,ICO market helped the crypto market of 2017 a lot and look now its not like in the past

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Until sometimes, hype had determined the value of coins in most cases. But now the time is changing and coins are under pressure to perform well to survive. So competition has started taking place among coins. Now we can expect performance of coins based on their real value.

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Quote from: gensol on August 30, 2019, 01:50:11 PM

If ther s no hype, despite the real life usage no one will buy. Hype is what makes price surge and creates fomo which surges prices of tokens as well. Real life usage, re world adoption plus hype will cause the next bull run.

The hypes are just because of the whales and we have to be thankful for them, but it makes a huge difference by now, hypes has never been showing this year or the whales never have such play again. If that so, we will just to wait for the huge market demand in order to see the bull run back again. Yet to think years of waiting, maybe? We don't have anything to do but to wait.

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Quote from: sweetbet on August 28, 2019, 08:15:59 PM

Shit coins with 0 use/value will disappear, while projects with solid real world use ($ADA, $VET, $LINK, $TOMO, etc) will take off during the next bull run. This is not just my opinion, but is the opinion of many big and influential crypto twitter accounts. But as for what will be the catalyst for the next bull run, no one knows. It could be regulation, recession, or an ATH $BTC price.

Shitcoins with big market cap like BCH and XRP will still be there. It's going to take more than 2 years for them to die and I'm sure we'll see a big bull run before the end of 2021 so they won't disappear while solid projects pump.

I think that it's going to be a big crash of some fiat currencies or a launch of regulated and insured investment companies like bakkt. The weakest fiats are falling first but it's a sign that there will be next global bankruptcies.

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So bull run can happen by adoption like if more and more people worldwide come here then not in the user that only do hit and run in market like in the past 2017 that many newbie users buy btc and some alts then they sell that in high after that the market stay then newbies drops the market here in crypto world like newbie users not earn because the market stay then they only leave or sell their btc and some alts to drops the market

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Quote from: xenomorphe1 on August 27, 2019, 04:12:59 PM

For the moment, i don't really see the next bull run. Yes, people have pumped bitcoin with their altcoins. But it is not a real bull run.
I still have not really see cryptocurrencies being used everyday. Blockchain is maybe already used by banks, but they won't accept cryptocurrencies. Only in some poor countries it can maybe work for an adoption if their politicians possess a lot of cryptocurrencies.
If there is a bullrun, i only see that it could be like in 2017 with shitcoins going to the moon too as cryptocurrencies is only used by speculators.

have thought about it over like you did. We need a channel for fund to flow into the space like the ICOs did, maybe not with scam project like in the past. If 60k-100k is the height we expect in the next bullrun, whales cant pump it to that height alone, fund must come from different angles.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

I agree with you and there is no better truth than it. I keep telling my friends that although bull run will take time to come but only projects with good use case or working products will be part of it. No one is interested in investing into any coin with no genuine future it is just too risky and not advisable. Also, although hype will a play role too, but I think it will be caused majorly by use case and mainstream adoption just like you said.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

The 2017 bull run was not based on hype; it was based on expectations
People expected a lot of miracles and adopted bitcoin massive through purchase

Secondly; any coin that gives out massive profit is not a shit coin.
You can term it a bad project; but the token definitely gave investors time to be at profit

In crypto currency; it is up to every investor to remain safe and not rekt

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If ther s no hype, despite the real life usage no one will buy. Hype is what makes price surge and creates fomo which surges prices of tokens as well. Real life usage, re world adoption plus hype will cause the next bull run.

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IEO projects in some cases showed good results even in the beginning of 2019. This would be a good engine for progress and fuel for a bull run, but the situation was completely different. Based on this, I can’t imagine what are the prerequisites for seeing bull runs for altcoins in the near future.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

Next bull run is under the question, the expectations shouldn't be high in my opinion. I wonder if there gonna be a real bull market in the next 5 years. The real-life use case depends on the ability of the professional team but only small parts achieve this success. The IEO trend can bring the next wave of the altcoin season like the HYPE of the all-time high price levels in 2017.

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A lot has changed since the latest hype around crypto. I think that the fuel for the next bull run may also be the public interest in cryptocurrency. Now investing in bitcoin has become much easier. In addition, the number of places where you can pay with bitcoins has increased. Tech companies like Samsung have started offering crypto-specific features in their smartphones, and tech entrepreneurs like Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey support cryptocurrencies. These reasons can have a very positive impact on the next bull run and perhaps it will be even more than the last.

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It will be the same thing in my opinion. The altcoins we think are shitcoins are still alive and kicking and it shows no sign of unhealthy market. They are still here and come maybe 5-10 years when finally bull run comes, we will still be able to see those coins moon like the last. I can only assume its Libra, BAKT and ETF will help the next bullrun.

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Quote from: michellee on August 28, 2019, 07:07:31 PM

I only know the bull run will happen soon, and it will happen to the coin which has a strong team, big support from people, and with having a good project. But unfortunately, we don't know which project or coins that can get the bull run, and we could only predicting one or two project or coins can rise again. Maybe right now, people are buying a huge amount of every coin in the market because they hope that coin can be one of many potential coins that can increase.

What I think is that the coins that will be affected positively by the next bull run are those new coins that were just released at the point the bull run started, because they will spend more money on advert then, and you know that one of the factor for this coins to get affected by the bull run is still awareness, because people will not be able to easily spot any coin out of the market because they are too many, but the ones they will focus more on are those new ones that is still with hype, and also the older ones that are in the market that are still within the toppest coin in the market.

In summary, any coin that you still move along with bitcoin now are the coins that will also grow when the altcoin bull run or the general bull run of bitcoin shows up.

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In the modern world, advertising plays a big role. So if the project makes a good presentation and can invite serious advisers, then it will have a great chance of "breaking the jackpot" even considering that the project itself has problems and its implementation may be delayed. So with the next green wave, shitcoins will continue to be popular Undecided

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Quote from: xenomorphe1 on August 27, 2019, 04:12:59 PM

For the moment, i don't really see the next bull run. Yes, people have pumped bitcoin with their altcoins. But it is not a real bull run.
I still have not really see cryptocurrencies being used everyday. Blockchain is maybe already used by banks, but they won't accept cryptocurrencies. Only in some poor countries it can maybe work for an adoption if their politicians possess a lot of cryptocurrencies.
If there is a bullrun, i only see that it could be like in 2017 with shitcoins going to the moon too as cryptocurrencies is only used by speculators.

Yes, it seems that in the next few cycles the same speculative price plays will occur. The time that the OP is talking about will have to wait longer than we expected.
Crypto is a breeding ground for scammers. It is not clear when it will be at least a little straightened. And although there are many opportunities, the crypto industry will not be able to raise rapidly, as the money goes out by scams.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

This is too early to talk about the adoption of crypto currencies so we cannot expect the next bull run due to this but we surely will face the bull run in the upcoming months since we already staying at $10K for a while which was after jump from $3000 so investors will change their investment plans once everyone settled for a price range.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

You are completely right about this, 2017 massive gain we had in altcoin market was as a result of the bitcoin hype which altcoins took advantage of also to hype their own altcoin and you could see most altcoin surge in price, but because of the way it came, they could not last or retain their high value for that long which they all crashed.

ICO will not be able to help again this time around because it has already had a damaged name and instead of it attracting people to it, many people are very scared of putting money into ICO’S again. We need to push more for adoption as you said and we need to all collectively do that and at the same time also, there is need to still push for hype again because it has a way of really speeding up the level of adoption here.

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Quote from: sweetbet on August 28, 2019, 08:15:59 PM

Shit coins with 0 use/value will disappear, while projects with solid real world use ($ADA, $VET, $LINK, $TOMO, etc) will take off during the next bull run. This is not just my opinion, but is the opinion of many big and influential crypto twitter accounts. But as for what will be the catalyst for the next bull run, no one knows. It could be regulation, recession, or an ATH $BTC price.

I think right now we should focus on the bearish trend that is happening. I guess bitcoin will still reach the bottom level before stepping up. at that time we can see that among the coins you have mentioned, they will also experience a decline, so that we can take advantage of the potential coins that have the biggest decrease

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Shit coins with 0 use/value will disappear, while projects with solid real world use ($ADA, $VET, $LINK, $TOMO, etc) will take off during the next bull run. This is not just my opinion, but is the opinion of many big and influential crypto twitter accounts. But as for what will be the catalyst for the next bull run, no one knows. It could be regulation, recession, or an ATH $BTC price.

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I only know the bull run will happen soon, and it will happen to the coin which has a strong team, big support from people, and with having a good project. But unfortunately, we don't know which project or coins that can get the bull run, and we could only predicting one or two project or coins can rise again. Maybe right now, people are buying a huge amount of every coin in the market because they hope that coin can be one of many potential coins that can increase.

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Many things happen in the background when you read the news so you see how fast this market is growing. But it looks like someone doesn't want the price to go up and want to buy as much as possible at the lowest price (maybe Bakkt, Fidelity or ETF funds?) Cool

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I know many people still now finding coins with Good ROI, regardless of its use/tech etc. For example, some staking coins have good ROI either with the same coin or smart contract token. But they don't have a good tech to sustain in the long run. In the next bull run, there will be alts who have smart contracts and dapp facilities with incentives. For example, Tron, IOST, EOS, Tomo, ETH etc.

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altcoin pumps (often confused with bull run) have always been based on hype so far and it is not only in 2017 but every year they happen only in some years the scale is larger.

in the future, i don't see this changing either. at least not for another 5 years at least. for the time being the focus of everyone in this market is to pump and dump and make the most amount of money which means they will continue using hype as a tool top pump their coins and that is a lot more profitable compared to having real usage.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

yes,, in the next bull run, only a project with working product will rising hard mate
and a shitcoins will dead, because there is no demands on it Wink

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No one will know how the bull run will go in the future, but clearly, it is not the same as the bull run that has been running, projects that have prepared real applications to have a high chance of growth and currently still have the opportunity to analyze projects with real products before the bull run begins.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

I am not sure about that because we don't have any right information about what the trigger for the next bull run and everything can be possible to happen later. I don't mind to see the cheap coins price will increase so high like what I saw in 2017, but I will gladly if I can see all of my coins can grow higher than now.

The next bull run will not happen for the project based on real-life only because there are many altcoins, especially the old coins that can back to the highest price. And if the bull run comes, I am sure that the cryptocurrency will rise again and will grow because that will attract people to come and join in the cryptocurrency.

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Coins with a real application will be considered as top coins and its market should always grow, and coins who doesn't have a real application will be just another shitcoin more or as you call them 'Dust...'

Shit coins don't bring us bull runs, but if we see a new coin coming with a totally new feature who can make our life easier that would come with a bull run.

*This is just speculation*

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The year 2017 was off the chart for top tier coins in the market and shitcoins were only dragged because of bitcoin's price obviously that's why it's a win-win situation for those holders. I would say next bull run ingredients would be wide adoption and demand of crypto currency are main factors of next bull run in the market.

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You should not assume if that will be the next hype but that's happening right now dude. The majority of the coins which can't create a good project already thrown by investors to the trashcan. I can say that this time the competition os really strict and who has made a good product will be getting a lot of attention from investors.
the altcoin hype has already ended from 2018 and this time anything will take at least MVP as the main observation to determine it's worth or not to be our investment.

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Quote from: xenomorphe1 on August 27, 2019, 04:12:59 PM

If there is a bullrun, i only see that it could be like in 2017 with shitcoins going to the moon too as cryptocurrencies is only used by speculators.

Not so sure that shitcoins will repeat like they did in 2017. There are some big differences between 2017 and now... first off, many exchanges aren't even trading a lot of shitcoins anymore. Sure, there is always some dinky exchange somewhere trading , but volume tends to be negligible. There is also the issue of just how far crushed some coins may be. Coins can be smushed and still recover, but sometimes when crushed down to a couple of sats, losing like 99.99% of their earlier value, they no longer can recover -- I think many shitcoins lost so much value (like basically all of it) that folks won't be so eager to pump any money into them, regardless of an overall alt season or not.

Now some shitcoins may still do well, but I don't think it'll be like 2017 again.

As for what would spur on an alt bullrun -- btc consolidating and whales hungry for profit? Friendly regulation? Some new alt taking off? Could be anything really, or sometimes it seems like pretty much nothing at all spurs on a run... it's up to where whales want to swim.

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The crypto-industry is getting more mature now as compared to 2017 scenario and its overall sentiment is good! I think we should wait and

see for a few months from now and hopefully, maybe we could finally see some innovative projects emerge alongside with top cryptos to fuel

the next bull run for crypto markets.

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I surely agree to that. They need to have serious use cases and something that can offer mass adoption.

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One of the reasons for bullrun in 2017 was also because of the Bitcoin hardfork, the real one. This could really make the price of BTC increase highly at that time and make many more people surprised and interested in the crypto world, moreover the massive news on media. It has to lead to the presence of numerous ICO projects with various platform, sectors, and others. But unfortunately, they cannot maintain the prospect and becoming some worthless coins.

And for now, we are still difficult to see the next bullrun. There will be always a prediction about it, but the prediction is still a prediction. We cannot meet with the exact happening. Personally, I also don't see yet that the bullrun will come early in this year, probably it needs more time again to be as hype as in 2017.

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Quote from: firmino10 on August 27, 2019, 03:51:54 PM

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

You've got it right. The next bull run will never be the same as before, we will see a bull run that will be based on the people's sentiment to the market and most of the coins that will partake with that moment will be the real projects and coins base on their solid proposals before.
Altcoins that were based on hype will still have chance to be part of it but the chance would be low. Unlike those projects that's made through real use case, they have higher chance.

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I really don't think this is accurate and real because nobody can be so sure of what will happen with the next bull run or when it will happen.
A lot of analyst have predicted and failed on the next bull run, so let's wait till then to find out.

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I appreciate the initiative of some projects team, who now decide to bring in and lunch good projects with real use cases these days. With what is now happening in the crypto space, they are now being spurred to do what is right.
If this should continue, there will be more real projects than the fame one, with the eventual eradication of shit and fake projects.

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For the moment, i don't really see the next bull run. Yes, people have pumped bitcoin with their altcoins. But it is not a real bull run.
I still have not really see cryptocurrencies being used everyday. Blockchain is maybe already used by banks, but they won't accept cryptocurrencies. Only in some poor countries it can maybe work for an adoption if their politicians possess a lot of cryptocurrencies.
If there is a bullrun, i only see that it could be like in 2017 with shitcoins going to the moon too as cryptocurrencies is only used by speculators.

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How can be so sure about that? Personally i disagree because i have experienced a couple of last market cycles and we have seen that once the cycle starts it becomes unstoppable and there is automatic and unlimited hype and fomo 8n the market which results in explosive growth of almost all the major coins, the pattern flows from btc to eth and then rest of the alts.

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The 2017 bull run was based on hype that was why shitcoins were able to give more profit because they were cheaper and people bought it based on the huge hype in the market then

But the next bull will be quite different from that and it will be based on real life usage and adoption so any project or altcoin that doesn't offer real usage or solve a problem will beat the dust.

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