Topic: The health benefits of Alcohol, Beers, Whisky and Red wines. (Read 396 times)

Honestly i don't drink alcohol, beers or such kind of things. Although many friends of mine have already experience. Yeah i heard about alcohol benefits where it reduces cander, blood pressure in some cases, kindey stones and many more what you have already mentioned. But you also told that, The worst aspective about alochol! It gets into the central nervous system as as as brain which could be injurious to health. That's why a drinker should drink alcohol within limit. Excess everything is dangerous lol.

Taking alcohol is good but on a moderate level and should be done occasionally not as a habit and the quantity being consumed shouldn't be that much as it also threatens some health problems like high BP,  the immune system becoming too weak as a result of constant consumption, causes cardiovascular diseases and can also affect ones vision so if it most be consumed it should be in lower quantity

I use to drink a lot mate but good that my Wife thought me to less and now stopped .

it is not easy to leave alcohol , but with perseverance and help of our loveone then we can  be living longer than those alcoholic .

Those  health advise comes from whom ? those doctors that has been paid by alcohol companies or doctors that is a drinker themselves ?
because if not then they will not comment such things , alcohol is good for the body? some says just don't abused but how can they stop?
because alcohol is addicted and there is no one bottle but 1-100 lols.
it is not that bad but the problem is that Alcohol is addicted so the time you are drinking is the more chance you got into deep here.

Alcohol is not bad though, but it depends on the consumption. That's why dey always say drink responsibly. Drinking responsibly is the key factor of not having problem. When alcohol is abused it becomes a problem to health

I usually have stocks of beer, whisky, and red wine at home. They can be beneficial especially red wine. I read somewhere that a lot of Japanese people drink red wine before going to bed. So there are days when I am also doing it.

The general rule is that everything becomes bad when taken excessively.

your body can only process one pint (~half litre) of fluid every few hours at best. usually every 3+ hours
if you usually urinate a pint per 3 hours dont put excess fluids above that into your system
its the excess fluids that can cause things like hypertension.. pushing too much fluid is literally the definition of high blood pressure

dont drink alcohol or any fluid excessively. one cup an hour is max. one cup per 3 hours is normal
if you think drinking 2 large glasses in a evening social event that lasts only 1-3hours is moderate. then you already failed

Ok, let's agree that these benefits which mentioned in OP isn't excuse or reason to drink. You easy can find many foods and drinks which is more beneficial for your health.
But on the other hand, I hate when abstinent people are looking into these who drink glass of wine or bottle of beer like into worst kind of alcochol addicts. Like there is just white and black and nothing in between. In some countries alcochol is part of culture. In Italy or Spain it's normal to have glass of wine together with lunch, but somehow these countries don't have problems with alcochol addiction.

Don't agree with you. Everything depends on personality, not everyone want to get high on this substance. If you want to get high, then it's already first sign of addiction. Personally, I drink beer not because I want to get drunk. I like taste of it, I eat some snacks or chips with it, trying different beers from all over the world. To get drunk like a skunk I would have to drink huge number of bottles at once.
Though, I must admit that I had some problems with strong drinks like whiskey or vodka. I just didn't felt when it's time to stop. And when next day I hhad terrible hangover and thoughts "never again". And that "never again" lasted only few weeks or months until next time. Fortunately, it's already in past.

Spot on, for all the "health benefits" of alcohol there are sfaer ways of gaining those
benefits, how do we know the safe tolerances of alcohol from person to person?

Water and organic wholefoods are 100% safe at any level.

This is from the WHO > https://www.who.int//news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol/


For me the negatives far out weigh the positives.

Interestingly zero alcohol beers are considered isotonic, they have lots of nutrients without
the harmful alcohol content. Interestingly as I type this I am enjoying a bottle of Estrella Galicia 0.0%

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/is-low-alcohol-beer-healthy

I will never recommend beer as a means of reducing the chances of having kidney stones because excessive alcohol is bad for the kidney. The best liquid to prevent kidney stones is water and it is highly recommended that even people that has kidney stones can be cured with water.

I don't have much knowledge about these other points the OP mentioned but if they are true drinking responsibly once in a while is not a bad idea. But the problem with alcohol is that you will always want to get high on this substance. It would have been better to drink a few glasses but each time, you are tempted to drink one or two bottles. In some cases you see people drinking heavily regularly which could destroy thier financial, family and health.

Moderate consumption of red wine may offer heart health benefits due to antioxidants. Beer made from whole grains can provide nutrients & antioxidants benefiting health. Whisky when consumed in moderation might have positive effects on cardiovascular health. Sadly excessive alcohol consumption can lead to serious health issues, including liver damage, alcoholism & increased cancer risk.

Truth about is that any thing that goes out of moderations us not good in this life, just as op have outlined many of the benefits and some side effects so it, but where the problem lies is on the individual because as we human face are different so is our character to anything we do many turn the purpose to something else Makin the good and health benefits harmful, due to how some people take this alcohol have make some relijous believe to condemned alcohol but from the beginning it was not so. Unlike me who believe in Christ the scripture said we should talk little for stomach issue but drunkards capitalize on this and get themself addicted to alcohol. If you go through this link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_alcohol analysis of alcohol here tells you it's not new in our environment and everyday uses.

This is what you will see as safe amount of alcohol to consume if you are an adult but this value is just an average and the amount depends on everyone's body and recently I saw a video that even a little drop of alcohol can lead to medical complications and someone who abuse alcohol will life without having any liver or kidney malfunctions.

It's said that to much of everything is bad, so it's not only alcohol that can be abused, even the food and none alcoholic beverages that we consume, if not taken in moderation will also be abuse and unhealthy. I believe that alcohol is good, it helps the drinker to be in a relaxed mood, and ofcourse all the health benefits mentioned by the OP are advantages that we can get from alcohol consumption. But the question is at what quantity should we stop in order not to abuse it? The answer for me is that our bodies have different capacities withstand quantities of alcohol, so each individual must know the limit that their body can withstand, so they won't exceed their limit. So my conclusion is drink responsible, meaning that if your body can only take the capacity of one bottle of beer, then be disciplined and don't go beyond the limit.

Too much of everything is bad and harmful to one’s health

Drinking socially is okay as long as you know your limits and you know that you can control yourself but some people lose control and they end up becoming alcoholics which is an addiction that  is not easy to treat because your body would have already adapted to the amount of alcohol you have been consuming

There are a lot of benefits but i think the risk of becoming an alcoholic is heavier and more harmful

When it comes to alcohol and drinking in general, moderation is the watch word. The abuse of alcohol is what has made a lot of people to label alcohol as been bad whereas that's not entirely correct.
If you can overcome the temptation of not getting drunk when you drink alcohol, especially when it is free drink, then you are good to go.

Recently, when I researched the benefits of taking alcohol I discovered that it is quite good for the body, but then one has to be careful not to abuse it, that's exactly where the dangers lie.

Alcohol is just bad to the body and especially to the Kidney. The kidney finds it difficult for metabolism to take place on alcohol there by causing problems to the kidney. The best way to see or know the efficacy of alcohol is to add it to a burning flame..  Just avoid it totally and stay safe.

Yes bro,  it has to do with just Madam for those of us who don't play away matches,  madam is the only one in the other room,  and if alcohol intake enhances that it means a lot for some weak players in that wing.

I will sure make further research about the ability of alchohol to enhance sexual performance,  in both males and females and if I find any scientifically supported proof,  that will support these popular claims.

I think the awareness is now on the increase regards to excessive intake of alcohol and the some of the negative effect it has to the body on greater consumption. Most people are beginning to caution themselves on their alcoholic behavior as it effect is tied to some illness that people of this time suffer. Living a moderate life is a way to stay healthy, nobody wants to die of what they are warned of.


It surely has what it does good for the body but that is to moderation but I don't understand madam here  Does it have to do with just madam?


I don't think it enhancement is to that you are asking but you can find that from google   

I am also of the opinion that we do everything in moderate,  and alcohol intake should be based on high moderation since its consumption is easily abused by a high percentage of its users and having moderation in alcohol intake may only exist in words and not in practice.

More also I don't know what the benefit of Alchohol is in sexual activity since alcohol weakens the body's systems and makes you want to sleep,  and a sloppy man can't perform well in the other room with madam.


Really the big question is, does alcohol really have any health benefits and does it really enhance sexual performance in some men or does it include women also?

It is interesting to what extent these facts are confirmed by evidence-based medicine. After all, most of them became a discovery for me. I still believe that overuse is only harmful.

That's what I was going to say. For many years we have been bombarded with articles that were actually paid advertisements for the alcohol industry, undercover, to say that x amount of beer or x amount of wine is healthy because so and so, as the OP mentions.

In the end, alcohol is toxic and, as you say, not healthy at all. At least if people want to drink alcohol they should be aware of it, and not be sold a lie. Even knowing that it is a toxic substance, alcohol consumption is already high enough in itself.

It all plays but having too much of everything can harm our health. Yes, there are health benefits of alcohol and wines but if you're drinking too much you know what it will build up.

Yeah right. Everything that's too much is gonna cause us our health and you're right that it's not just the drinks, the alcohol, and the beverages but also what we intake in our body. I do understand we do love food, good food, and eating and that's a basic necessity for most of us. But when the trouble comes and we go ahead to the doctor when we feel something bad inside us, the culprit is the food that we take or the drink that we drink.

Also, drink enough water and not fluids that are colored.

Moderation is the way to live our lives, not only alcohol that can cause damage to the body but eating unhealthy can also endanger us. However, the kidney is easily affected with alcohol because of the function it does in the body, like removing of excess fluid and alcohol itself is generating unwanted substance that overburden the kidney. It is better to eat and drink in moderation.

I agree with the benefits of alcohol you just mentioned,  but the problem people do have with alcohol is that they abused it by taking more alcohol which can be a serious problem to the human organs that can later lead to death. Alcohol is not bad but very dangerous to the health, their should be limit to the intake of alcohol which can help the body to be in a better condition.  The kidney is one of the most important organ in the body and can be easily destroy by alcohol.

There's nothing wrong with having a moderate quantity of alcohol, beers or other brands of beverages. The issues with them only comes up when they're been abused and alcohol can be very addictive and easily abused which is why they're been banned in some countries.

They're banned as they can make people to misbehave and cause destruction of properties. The health benefits of alcohol can be gotten from other beverages, fruits and food that isn't harmful to the body therefore we can stay without alcohol.

Alcohol is mainly consumed as a means of having fun, getting drunk or feeling spirited and not because of all the health benefits that you have mentioned. Alcohol has a more negative impact on the society than a positive impact because of it's toxicity nature.

We shouldn't be promoting the drinking of alcohol instead we should be discouraging people from drinking it. Drinking more of water should be promoted as the health benefits of water is more than any other beverages.

I think the OP made it clear that he is not telling people to stop taking alcohol but at least we should try and reduce the rate at which we take it not to stop taking it completely because of the outlined benefit of taking alcohol the OP has outlined.

Just that addiction to alcohol is not good for our Healths.

Excessive intake of alcohol can make one misbehave and look irresponsible. That is why in whatever we are taking into our body should be taken moderately because if it isn't take with caution, there must be a side effect for it.

Alcohol is good for the tommy to help in stomach bite and it also enable one to overcome bad mood within a short period of time. I don't like taking much of alcohol as I do take it occasionally. Alcohol,sex,gamble and drug abuse has a negative impact on the addicted person's  life.

You will need to explain this more because I have not heard it that taking alcohol can help a man sexual performance. Rather what I have heard is that alcohol is likely not to help a man in sexual performance. I believe that we should do things in moderation because whatever we do excessively is an abuse and likely to demage our system. Those who are addicted to alcohol have not confirmed that help sexual performance rather I think what affects sexual performance is mostly age. You don't expect an older person man or woman to as active as a younger person.

There isn't even a small level of alcohol that's safe: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)31310-2

And so even if a moderate level of alcohol might have therapeutic effects, any such effects would be completely negated by other damage caused to your organs. And with how common substance abuse is, the category of "moderate drinkers" probably hardly exists. You either consume little to nothing, or well past any therapeutic dose.

Alcohol causes hypertension, so what good could it really do to prevent heart disease?

You can't tell an alcoholic lover to stop drinking alcohol because it causes damages in his system, to be honest the reply you'd get would even get you tired of advising them to stop. Too much of alcohol causes a lot of damages in the system, if not that it can make you start doing things out of other, you can be saying things that doesn't make sense abusing people around you. After some time if they tell you all you did, I believe you won't even agree. So is just not healthy to me.

I am not a lover of alcohol because of hangovers. I have observed that even if I take little, the effect is not always pleasing. But I will not mind taking a few glasses of wine if the benefits you outlined and discussed are true. I am supposed to do a further study to ascertain if these benefits are true or false but adding the source of research that validates these claims would have been perfect. I hope this information is not based on hearsay and customs but on testable scientific research.

I know kidney stones can be controlled by taking plenty of water and I also know that excessive use of alcohol increases the risk of suffering from the illness because of the high rate of purines in beer and grain alcohol. I think it will be better for kidney stone patients to drink just water and avoid alcohol. I have also heard some of my friends claim that drinking beer, especially stouts improved their sexual performance. But I have not experimented with that claim. Nevertheless, I think we should verify this information before using alcohol.

I read somewhere that moderate drinking can help prevent heart disease.

https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/heart-disease-alcohol-your-heart#:~:text=Can%20a%20few%20drinks%20really,ounces%20of%2080%2Dproof%20liquor.

But they still went further to say that Doctors aren't sure if the benefits are because of the alcohol or the healthy lifestyle of minimal drinkers.
Therefore, if you don't drink, don't start for the sake of your heart. Eating healthy and exercising can do the trick.
And if you already drink too much, don't use the healthy benefits as an excuse because they negative effects outweighs the good.

I have read before that Red wine has many health benefits of taken in a reasonable quantity and a reasonable frequency.  I recall a documentary film about a person who lived a realively long life because alledgely drank a cup of red wine once a day since was 20 years old.

While it cannot be affordable for all of us, (including me), I still like to drink in special occasions.

I personally like beer and wine, both classic red or sparkling ones.

By the way, I am aware that here in the forum we have many Muslim fellows, who are not allowed to consume alcohol, for obvious reasons. I don't have anything against them. To each their own. 

The only benefit is to your mental health, not your physical health. Alcohol can lift depression temporarily and lighten the mood of a room, and good for social gathering. Alcohol should be consumed in moderate amount because it can be hazardous to health and damaging to the kidney. Red wines out of the whole category of alcohol is the best choice if you must consume alcohol, but still it still does not have to be abused as some people do very frequently and call it enjoyment. Drink and gamble responsibly.

Most of our health problems comes from abuse of various substances throughout our lives. Most things considered bad for you can be good and cure many health conditions if used in moderation.
Some examples? Common salt. You need to consume a bit of sodium to stay healthy, otherwise you can even go into a coma. Eat too much salt and you'll have heart problems, high blood pressure, finally, just like with too little sodium, you can fall into a coma.

Pure alcohol is bad for us in general, but it can help endure pain, disinfect wounds, and allow us survive longer in extreme conditions, especially in a situation where you're wounded and need to walk somewhere to get help. Taking a sip of strong alcohol can help you focus. You can read about the famous Dutch courage

I agree with you that anything like alcohol which can cause addiction can be a very bad thing for our health. The ones who are addicted to alcohol are often found to be less conscious when they are drunk, and I believe that anything that can cause consciousness issue in humans isn't a good thing to consume. Although, we can't ignore that alcohol can have some good pros as well, but its cons are way higher than its pros and that's why someone with proper understanding about health & nutrition would avoid substance like alcohol at any cost.

The long term consumption of alcohol is know to cause many types of cancers and other health issues and anyone who is addicted to drinking can have such kind of diseases in future. The wrong research about some topics has often caused more problems for us humans and because of such wrong information we can lose our health and many other precious things in our lives.

Alcohol usage and consumption has already been extensively discussed in the world today. With so many benefits, the downsides should always be dealt with caution. Alcohol addiction is now the norm, and some people believe that if you don't drink alcohol, you're missing out on a lot of the fun you should be having in this life while you're still alive and healthy.

Many individuals forget the downsides of it and the long-term effects it can have on the immune system and cause utter destruction to some of the body's essential organs when used excessively. I believe that for everything in the world today, there are always pros and downsides, so it is best if we embrace the benefits and stay away from the risks involved in using such substances when they’re too much in the body.

BEFORE YOU START READING, KEEP IN MIND THAT I DO NOT RECOMMEND NON-DRINKERS TO START DRINKING. BECAUSE DRINKING IS VERY HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH.

Alcohol consumption and addiction are not new in our social life today, but it is also appropriate to state that alcohol is both a tonic and a poison, with the difference being primarily in the dose.

Alcohol is employed in different kinds of festivals, social gatherings, and even for medicinal purposes.  This has raised many questions about the effects of alcohol on every organ in the body.

When alcohol enters the body, approximately 80% of it is absorbed in the small intestine and then released into the bloodstream. When alcohol enters the bloodstream, it is circulated throughout the body by the circulatory system, the heart.

The human liver is in charge of detoxifying methane (alcohol) and eliminating it from the bloodstream. However, the liver can only handle a tiny quantity of alcohol at a time, allowing remainder to circulate throughout the body.

The worst aspect is that it also gets into the central nervous system and brain.

Because of the addictive nature of alcohols, heavy drinking is largely almost irresistible by drinkers, resulting to a variety of diseases as a result of the causes I described above.

This fact has also make the health benefits of drinking at moderate level not well known. However, moderate drinking can be advantageous to human health, as I will demonstrate below:

* Beers can lower the risk of of kidney stones: Beer was found to reduce the risk of kidney stones by 41%.

* Beers strengthen your bones: Beer's high source of silicon content is what's responsible for an increase in bone density.

* Alcohol can protect you from heart attacks.

* Red wines can help fight colds: 8 -14 glasses of wine per week, one could see a 60% reduction in the risk developing a cold.

* Red wines can boost your memory: A compound found in the skin of red grapes can improve memory and cognitive function.
* Beers have vitamins.
* Whisky can cure sore throats.
* Drinking moderately can improve sexual function in men.
* Drinking can also help in Reducing blood clotting.
* Beer can help stop cataracts.

Addiction in the use of alcohol is a topic that we cannot run away from, I suggest we open discussion about this topic for the purpose of educating each other.