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Quote from: organofcorti on July 05, 2012, 10:08:32 PM

Quote from: BadBear on July 04, 2012, 06:58:11 AM

Actually if they hadn't found it it would be much bigger news, the fact that they (probably) have is not so much.

Not finding it where it was expected would mean some changes to the standard model, which while big news to physicists would interest the public not very much.

Neither conclusion interests the public very much. Finding it wouldn't be a big deal because it's always assumed to be there, in order to make the laws of physics work. Not finding it would either mean they just didn't find it, or it doesn't exist, in which case the laws of physics would need reworking.

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Quote from: BadBear on July 04, 2012, 06:58:11 AM

Actually if they hadn't found it it would be much bigger news, the fact that they (probably) have is not so much.

The times where there was no news in between the times they thought they'd found it were all the times they didn't find it, if you know what I mean.

Not finding the Higgs boson wouldn't be news, because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. It just means they'd keep looking at higher and higher voltages - well, until they couldn't afford the energy bill any more. Not finding it where it was expected would mean some changes to the standard model, which while big news to physicists would interest the public not very much.

I for one support our new mass-providing particle overlord!

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Quote from: punningclan on July 05, 2012, 02:31:43 PM

Quote from: Spekulatius on July 04, 2012, 11:59:13 AM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on July 04, 2012, 09:25:17 AM

They claimed that before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson#Timeline_of_experimental_evidence

From the year 2000 onwards, they claimed about 4 times to "almost be sure" to have found it. Last time it was in the news, a couple of days later they discovered an unplugged plug somewhere in the machine, that explained the "near certain findings" of the existance of the particle.
So I would be rather cautious with those over exited scientists.

Agreed!

You should have seen the excitement in the conference hall, at one point they clapped! Shocked

If we know how mass comes about we might be able to negate it?

Here is how I think about it:

Imagine a calm body of water and a light source, for example a toilet that hasn't been used for awhile reflecting the bathroom light. If the water is calm you can clearly see the reflection of the light. The image is almost perfectly reproduced. But if you add energy to the system it causes all sorts of ripples and the light gets diffracted, refracted, reflected in all directions, etc. The higgs field is like the body of water, the light source is the other matter/energy, and the reflected image of the light source is what we observe as mass. If you understand the source of the higgs field, you are one step closer to being able to input focused energy/information, and also possibly capturing and containing the particles responsible.

Disclaimer: I am not a physicist and thought of this while taking a piss after playing mass effect.

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Quote from: Spekulatius on July 04, 2012, 11:59:13 AM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on July 04, 2012, 09:25:17 AM

They claimed that before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson#Timeline_of_experimental_evidence

From the year 2000 onwards, they claimed about 4 times to "almost be sure" to have found it. Last time it was in the news, a couple of days later they discovered an unplugged plug somewhere in the machine, that explained the "near certain findings" of the existance of the particle.
So I would be rather cautious with those over exited scientists.

Agreed!

You should have seen the excitement in the conference hall, at one point they clapped! Shocked

If we know how mass comes about we might be able to negate it?

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Quote from: proudhon on July 04, 2012, 04:32:54 AM

Quote from: kentrolla on July 04, 2012, 04:15:55 AM

http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/play_higgs.html i know i'm a little late on making this thread as the conference is over now because i was busy watching the whole thing.The conference revealed that many independent studies got a ~126GeV and 5 sigma result (1 in 3.5million chance of being wrong). i know these are scientists so they claim that 1 in 3.5million is still inconclusive, but i think it's safe to say they found it. This is HUGE news. I don't want to go into too much detail about how big of a deal this is, but this is going to make technology advance much faster and many other things. Do you think this could have any effect on the Bitcoin market? If so, what are your predictions and why?

lmao!

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on July 05, 2012, 09:58:01 AM

horse of a different color

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So much for intelligence of the crowd. Bitcoiners were 3:1 against this happening in 2012.

- http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=272

Other bet statements in the science category:

Curiosity Rover will successfully land on Mars
The record for largest known prime number will be broken before the end of year 2012
and more:

- http://betsofbitco.in/list?status=available&category=Science

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Quote from: Rarity on July 05, 2012, 05:23:26 AM

How will the Higgs effect the frozen concentrated orange juice futures?

Excuse me! But that's a horse of a different color--lavender.

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How will the Higgs effect the frozen concentrated orange juice futures?

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on July 04, 2012, 09:25:17 AM

They claimed that before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson#Timeline_of_experimental_evidence

From the year 2000 onwards, they claimed about 4 times to "almost be sure" to have found it. Last time it was in the news, a couple of days later they discovered an unplugged plug somewhere in the machine, that explained the "near certain findings" of the existance of the particle.
So I would be rather cautious with those over exited scientists.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on July 04, 2012, 09:25:17 AM

... agreed! No doubt about that.
So do what Warren Buffet would do. Assume most Bankster don´t get a clue on what this is all about. So just by shares of all companies which are positively affected by this news. Plus don´t forget to pay with Bitcoins.

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Quote from: BadBear on July 04, 2012, 06:58:11 AM

Actually if they hadn't found it it would be much bigger news, the fact that they (probably) have is not so much.

+1
Science is about making experiments for proofing the theory wrong and make a better one. you will never be able to proof a theory that has something in common with nature.
searching for proof is like making a selffulfilling prophecy... (excluding math)
(like somone could make an experiment whitch shows, that speed of light isn't constant in vacuum. that would disproof einstein and shows ways to a better (more true) theory and would bring the science much further than making an experimet thowing that speed of light is constant.)

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Actually if they hadn't found it it would be much bigger news, the fact that they (probably) have is not so much.

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How is something that was already assumed to be true in physics going to affect finance?!?!

Nonsense thread IMO.

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Quote from: proudhon on July 04, 2012, 04:32:54 AM

Quote from: kentrolla on July 04, 2012, 04:15:55 AM

http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/play_higgs.html i know i'm a little late on making this thread as the conference is over now because i was busy watching the whole thing.The conference revealed that many independent studies got a ~126GeV and 5 sigma result (1 in 3.5million chance of being wrong). i know these are scientists so they claim that 1 in 3.5million is still inconclusive, but i think it's safe to say they found it. This is HUGE news. I don't want to go into too much detail about how big of a deal this is, but this is going to make technology advance much faster and many other things. Do you think this could have any effect on the Bitcoin market? If so, what are your predictions and why?

Aahahaaahaa.... puh, sniff

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this is going to have big impact on the world economy

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Quote from: kentrolla on July 04, 2012, 04:15:55 AM

http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/play_higgs.html i know i'm a little late on making this thread as the conference is over now because i was busy watching the whole thing.The conference revealed that many independent studies got a ~126GeV and 5 sigma result (1 in 3.5million chance of being wrong). i know these are scientists so they claim that 1 in 3.5million is still inconclusive, but i think it's safe to say they found it. This is HUGE news. I don't want to go into too much detail about how big of a deal this is, but this is going to make technology advance much faster and many other things. Do you think this could have any effect on the Bitcoin market? If so, what are your predictions and why?

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http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/play_higgs.html i know i'm a little late on making this thread as the conference is over now because i was busy watching the whole thing.The conference revealed that many independent studies got a ~126GeV and 5 sigma result (1 in 3.5million chance of being wrong). i know these are scientists so they claim that 1 in 3.5million is still inconclusive, but i think it's safe to say they found it. This is HUGE news. I don't want to go into too much detail about how big of a deal this is, but this is going to make technology advance much faster and many other things. Do you think this could have any effect on the Bitcoin market? If so, what are your predictions and why?

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