The IP addresses of all BTC nodes in the Blacklist

Velkro

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Quote from: unamis76 on July 23, 2017, 07:04:42 PM

The dev replied, he seems to be somewhat categorizing organizations and other similar things, not only making lists with spam/criminal IP's. Despite this, it's still odd why he has a blacklist available with known network nodes...

Imagination is only limit, he can work for deanon organisations that try to reveal users behind bitcoin addresses.
There are many clever ways to do that, banning 90% of nodes is one of them.

Meuh6879

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Quote from: cjmoles on July 23, 2017, 07:07:25 PM

But, where does it stop and are there unavoidable situations where a blacklist can be used in a negative manner to hurt the network?

not really since Bitcoin Core use a native integration of TOR/Onion Network since 23-Feb-2016.

https://bitcoincore.org/en/releases/0.12.0/

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Automatically use Tor hidden services

Starting with Tor version 0.2.7.1 it is possible, through Tor’s control socket API, to create and destroy ‘ephemeral’ hidden services programmatically. Bitcoin Core has been updated to make use of this.

This means that if Tor is running (and proper authorization is available), Bitcoin Core automatically creates a hidden service to listen on, without manual configuration. Bitcoin Core will also use Tor automatically to connect to other .onion nodes if the control socket can be successfully opened. This will positively affect the number of available .onion nodes and their usage.

Country where IP Ban use ... TOR has a default package installed by technical (local) staff (ie. the internet guy).

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 23, 2017, 07:00:00 PM

Quote from: stompix on July 23, 2017, 05:23:05 PM

1) Since you just opened a stupid thread about a fork one week ago, let me ask you..
2) Do you even have a clue what this firewall is supposed to do and for whom?

1) BTC cash ... ?
2) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18930265

1) I'm talking about this so called thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20192967
With which you have become the laughing stock of the forum by spreading FUD like a broken vending machine

2) That firewall does not attack anything.
It's like me disrupting the torrent protocol by blocking u torrent ports.

unamis76

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As per the dev on GitHub, he "doesn't make" lists. Does anyone know of a list of all Bitcoin nodes similar to his? I am unaware of such... Anyways, judging by what the dev says, it's not worth our time. These lists are opt-in and the dev doesn't seem to be hostile towards Bitcoin or towards nodes. BTW, he also makes a list from information obtained from Bitnodes, so after all he can capture quite a lot of the network in his (black)lists. What I find weird was how he wasted time to make scrape this information and have it updated...

As for our concerns, I still think they're somewhat legitimate. Why would you be trying to gather information regarding all these nodes to have it in a blacklist? Cheesy

However, as I said, this isn't really anything hostile, so...

cjmoles

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 23, 2017, 07:00:00 PM

Quote from: stompix on July 23, 2017, 05:23:05 PM

1) Since you just opened a stupid thread about a fork one week ago, let me ask you..
2) Do you even have a clue what this firewall is supposed to do and for whom?

1) BTC cash ... ?
2) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18930265

^^^^Well played^^^^

But, where does it stop and are there unavoidable situations where a blacklist can be used in a negative manner to hurt the network? I'm not sure if we should be heading down this rabbit hole for any reason, real or perceived. Are my concerns legitimate?

unamis76

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The dev replied, he seems to be somewhat categorizing organizations and other similar things, not only making lists with spam/criminal IP's. Despite this, it's still odd why he has a blacklist available with known network nodes...

Meuh6879

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Quote from: stompix on July 23, 2017, 05:23:05 PM

1) Since you just opened a stupid thread about a fork one week ago, let me ask you..
2) Do you even have a clue what this firewall is supposed to do and for whom?

1) BTC cash ... ?
2) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18930265

cjmoles

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Is subscribing to a node blacklist a good idea or a bad idea? Even if the lists creator has legitimate intentions, wont it eventually lead us down a slippery slope....How would such a blacklist be regulated, vetted, governed?

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anyone running software that blocks itself from the network is just creating themselves a small little island for themselves (an altcoin/private network)
the guys running software are not harming the network, they are just cutting themselves away from the network

a far simpler solution to blacklist all bitcoin nodes is just to not go look for bitcoin nodes via known bitcoin dns seeds and instead only accept connections from manually added nodes they do like

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 23, 2017, 03:57:50 PM

Quote from: sawa on July 23, 2017, 03:12:59 PM

has included all bitcoin nodes

nice try ... but ... useless.

And you point is?
What that there are nodes active online right now?

Since you just opened a stupid thread about a fork one week ago, let me ask you..
Do you even have a clue what this firewall is supposed to do and for whom?

unamis76

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on July 23, 2017, 03:57:50 PM

Quote from: sawa on July 23, 2017, 03:12:59 PM

has included all bitcoin nodes

nice try ... but ... useless.

The dev obviously doesn't really know or care about Bitcoin, do you think he'd be knowledgeable or worried enough to try and get all the nodes? Tongue

Anyways, let's see his reply...

Meuh6879

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Quote from: sawa on July 23, 2017, 03:12:59 PM

has included all bitcoin nodes

nice try ... but ... useless.

unamis76

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I guess this is a fast way to know what firewall NOT to use. I'll be seeing if he replies.

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The creator of https://github.com/firehol firewall has included all bitcoin nodes in the https://github.com/firehol/blocklist-ipsets list of the address for blocking.
He collects the node addresses here https://blockchain.info/en/connected-nodes
According to his description of the lists https://github.com/firehol/blocklist-ipsets/blob/master/README.md all that is listed is of a criminal or fraudulent nature.
But it is not clear on what basis he classified the open nodes of bitcoins belonging to the above, and included in the lists for blocking.

I discovered my nodes in this list: https://github.com/firehol/blocklist-ipsets/blob/master/bitcoin_nodes.ipset
There are several lists, the rest can be seen at: https://github.com/firehol/blocklist-ipsets
File names begin with bitcoin_
I asked him a question https://github.com/firehol/blocklist-ipsets/issues/41
I wait that he will respond.

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