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Lately, I have been taking a look at the speeches Trump does during his rallies, I believe he is in Iowa.
In the lastest of them it caught my attention how he claimed the Democrat party is already working to rig the election of this year or how they have already done it, which is something I would have not expected him to say, to be honest.
However, after talking about the alleged rig which is going on and done by the Democrat party, he still said he and his movement will be able to defeat Joe Biden in the next presidential election. He did not elaborate.

How anyone have any Idea what Trump means with these very close contradictions being said in his speech?
He is implying there is going to be rigging and he will be able to counter it, but to me does not make much sense to say both things without talking about how his base or his lawyers are supposed to guarantee free and fair elections...

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We Myself and the Cult of Trump need a dictator like Trump, .... (because we are brainwashed by Trump and Trump knows it.)

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Is that a Dad joke? I gotta be honest ... kinda lame.
But no worries my friend, I'm sure BADecker got a chuckle, so there is that.   Wink

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Getting back on topic....


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Just as an example, if you were out camping in the wilderness, and you were wandering around in the dark at night, I would certainly warn you before you stepped off the edge of the cliff. Of course, you wouldn't be wandering around in the dark without a flashlight. But the point is that I am warning people about Russia and Putin, and more about the Russians who are like Medvedev.

So, are you:
1. Simply against me ad hominem style? or;
2. Are you simply ignorant about Russia? or;
3. Are you in favor of Russia, and are trying to put down any warnings about them, to make it easier for them to grow and become stronger?

Cool

We are against the dumbass wave of shitposting and walltexting that you have been doing for years. do not take it personally, but it is you yes You are the most ignorant of the users on this forum on Ruzzia, the world, religion, economics and any other domain of the human knowledge, but the worst kind of ignorant, the one who thinks has something to say.

Talking about liberty while endorsing dictators... dumbass.

But, trying to stay on-topic. Can you think of anything that could potentially make you think Trump is not the right President for the US? The answer is no dumbass BA, so try to figure out what that means.

We need a dictator like Trump, to put down the stupidity of dictator Biden. Americans are having a difficult time of it financially, under Biden. But Trump would do more of the same kinds of things he has done already - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55119252.

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Look, I know that History is not popular in the Tik-Tok, 6 seconds message era, but this is nothing new. Julius Cesar made so many enemies in the politics of Rome that he had as only solution to overtake the government by using his loyal legions or he would have been exiled or killed. It worked well, I mean, until he was killed anyway.

The problem was that after him, what was a Republic became an Empire and never returned to any short of participative regime (to note, the Republic was not like a modern one, but at least there were elections).

does any of this sound kind of familiar? I mean, let's say Trump skips over all the legal problems and becomes president. do you think he could ever leave it without being them prosecuted and jailed? do you think he would not try something ... you know...

I am not pro-Biden @dumbass BA, I am anti mafia. Other Republican candidates could actually be working to sew the seams of the broken US and make it strong instead of Make America full of Gangsters Again. Unfortunately, only Biden stands in Trumps way as of today so...

You're so funny. If you were anti-Mafia, you wouldn't be so pro-Ukraine, which is also pro-Biden, and pro-Mafia. In fact, you would be pro-Trump... for freedom and MAGA.



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Remember, you're talking to a Putin fanboy and MAGAtard that thinks Stalin and Hitler "had the right idea"....

The fact that Trump is going full dictator and has a real shot at the White House is a dream come true for him.

Just as an example, if you were out camping in the wilderness, and you were wandering around in the dark at night, I would certainly warn you before you stepped off the edge of the cliff. Of course, you wouldn't be wandering around in the dark without a flashlight. But the point is that I am warning people about Russia and Putin, and more about the Russians who are like Medvedev.

So, are you:
1. Simply against me ad hominem style? or;
2. Are you simply ignorant about Russia? or;
3. Are you in favor of Russia, and are trying to put down any warnings about them, to make it easier for them to grow and become stronger?

Cool

We are against the dumbass wave of shitposting and walltexting that you have been doing for years. do not take it personally, but it is you yes You are the most ignorant of the users on this forum on Ruzzia, the world, religion, economics and any other domain of the human knowledge, but the worst kind of ignorant, the one who thinks has something to say.

Talking about liberty while endorsing dictators... dumbass.

But, trying to stay on-topic. Can you think of anything that could potentially make you think Trump is not the right President for the US? The answer is no dumbass BA, so try to figure out what that means.
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Look, I know that History is not popular in the Tik-Tok, 6 seconds message era, but this is nothing new. Julius Cesar made so many enemies in the politics of Rome that he had as only solution to overtake the government by using his loyal legions or he would have been exiled or killed. It worked well, I mean, until he was killed anyway.

The problem was that after him, what was a Republic became an Empire and never returned to any short of participative regime (to note, the Republic was not like a modern one, but at least there were elections).

does any of this sound kind of familiar? I mean, let's say Trump skips over all the legal problems and becomes president. do you think he could ever leave it without being them prosecuted and jailed? do you think he would not try something ... you know...

I am not pro-Biden @dumbass BA, I am anti mafia. Other Republican candidates could actually be working to sew the seams of the broken US and make it strong instead of Make America full of Gangsters Again. Unfortunately, only Biden stands in Trumps way as of today so...

You're so funny. If you were anti-Mafia, you wouldn't be so pro-Ukraine, which is also pro-Biden, and pro-Mafia. In fact, you would be pro-Trump... for freedom and MAGA.



~

Remember, you're talking to a Putin fanboy and MAGAtard that thinks Stalin and Hitler "had the right idea"....

The fact that Trump is going full dictator and has a real shot at the White House is a dream come true for him.

Just as an example, if you were out camping in the wilderness, and you were wandering around in the dark at night, I would certainly warn you before you stepped off the edge of the cliff. Of course, you wouldn't be wandering around in the dark without a flashlight. But the point is that I am warning people about Russia and Putin, and more about the Russians who are like Medvedev.

So, are you:
1. Simply against me ad hominem style? or;
2. Are you simply ignorant about Russia? or;
3. Are you in favor of Russia, and are trying to put down any warnings about them, to make it easier for them to grow and become stronger?

Cool
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Make America full of Gangsters Again. MAGA

Poor Trump. He worked so hard to make America great again. And now you are using his slogan to support Biden. Shame on you.

Cool

Though, the most popular and satirical use of the MAGA slogan I have seen on the internet is: Make Attorneys Get Attorneys; in reference that several of the lawyers who had worker for Trump have ended up in such dire legal situation they (as attorneys) need to hire others with then same professional background so they have a chance to escape the from whatever bad place Trump put them in. It is quite clever if you think about it and also ironic, how one person could so easily break the law, after studying it for years as a way of living.

Also, Trump is anything but poor, or at least that is what he wants us all to believe. I would bet if he could listen or read to you he would not feel comfortable with the fact you are saying he is poor, regardless You are saying in the context of alledged political witchhunt. I believe at this point he is not running for the sake of the best interest of the American people, but to try to stay out of prison, he did not manage to deliver many of his campaign promises during his first presidential period anyways.

Look, I know that History is not popular in the Tik-Tok, 6 seconds message era, but this is nothing new. Julius Cesar made so many enemies in the politics of Rome that he had as only solution to overtake the government by using his loyal legions or he would have been exiled or killed. It worked well, I mean, until he was killed anyway.

The problem was that after him, what was a Republic became an Empire and never returned to any short of participative regime (to note, the Republic was not like a modern one, but at least there were elections).

does any of this sound kind of familiar? I mean, let's say Trump skips over all the legal problems and becomes president. do you think he could ever leave it without being them prosecuted and jailed? do you think he would not try something ... you know...

I am not pro-Biden @dumbass BA, I am anti mafia. Other Republican candidates could actually be working to sew the seams of the broken US and make it strong instead of Make America full of Gangsters Again. Unfortunately, only Biden stands in Trumps way as of today so...

Remember, you're talking to a Putin fanboy and MAGAtard that thinks Stalin and Hitler "had the right idea"....

The fact that Trump is going full dictator and has a real shot at the White House is a dream come true for him.
legendary
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Make America full of Gangsters Again. MAGA

Poor Trump. He worked so hard to make America great again. And now you are using his slogan to support Biden. Shame on you.

Cool

Though, the most popular and satirical use of the MAGA slogan I have seen on the internet is: Make Attorneys Get Attorneys; in reference that several of the lawyers who had worker for Trump have ended up in such dire legal situation they (as attorneys) need to hire others with then same professional background so they have a chance to escape the from whatever bad place Trump put them in. It is quite clever if you think about it and also ironic, how one person could so easily break the law, after studying it for years as a way of living.

Also, Trump is anything but poor, or at least that is what he wants us all to believe. I would bet if he could listen or read to you he would not feel comfortable with the fact you are saying he is poor, regardless You are saying in the context of alledged political witchhunt. I believe at this point he is not running for the sake of the best interest of the American people, but to try to stay out of prison, he did not manage to deliver many of his campaign promises during his first presidential period anyways.

Look, I know that History is not popular in the Tik-Tok, 6 seconds message era, but this is nothing new. Julius Cesar made so many enemies in the politics of Rome that he had as only solution to overtake the government by using his loyal legions or he would have been exiled or killed. It worked well, I mean, until he was killed anyway.

The problem was that after him, what was a Republic became an Empire and never returned to any short of participative regime (to note, the Republic was not like a modern one, but at least there were elections).

does any of this sound kind of familiar? I mean, let's say Trump skips over all the legal problems and becomes president. do you think he could ever leave it without being them prosecuted and jailed? do you think he would not try something ... you know...

I am not pro-Biden @dumbass BA, I am anti mafia. Other Republican candidates could actually be working to sew the seams of the broken US and make it strong instead of Make America full of Gangsters Again. Unfortunately, only Biden stands in Trumps way as of today so...
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Make America full of Gangsters Again. MAGA

Poor Trump. He worked so hard to make America great again. And now you are using his slogan to support Biden. Shame on you.

Cool

Though, the most popular and satirical use of the MAGA slogan I have seen on the internet is: Make Attorneys Get Attorneys; in reference that several of the lawyers who had worker for Trump have ended up in such dire legal situation they (as attorneys) need to hire others with then same professional background so they have a chance to escape the from whatever bad place Trump put them in. It is quite clever if you think about it and also ironic, how one person could so easily break the law, after studying it for years as a way of living.

Also, Trump is anything but poor, or at least that is what he wants us all to believe. I would bet if he could listen or read to you he would not feel comfortable with the fact you are saying he is poor, regardless You are saying in the context of alledged political witchhunt. I believe at this point he is not running for the sake of the best interest of the American people, but to try to stay out of prison, he did not manage to deliver many of his campaign promises during his first presidential period anyways.
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Make America full of Gangsters Again. MAGA

Poor Trump. He worked so hard to make America great again. And now you are using his slogan to support Biden. Shame on you.

Cool
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Well, then Al Capone was just a tax evader, because they could not prove anything else?

This is not name calling. Trump is being judged under RICO (The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act), specifically designed for mobsters, drug cartels and organised crime. There are already several members of the MAGA mafia that turned up on Trump. There has been a full enquire in Congress about the assault of the  Capitol. Trump HAS been already declared guilty in New York. The Colorado Court clearly stated he IS an insurrectionist - even the minority opinion does not question the organised crime activities, but rather who and when can enforce the Constitution and other peripheral issues of procedure.

I am just not falling into the MAGA Mafia narrative that "all that is equal to zero" and I recommend you examine the facts, not the "narratives".

Charges for keeping state secrets in accessible places in his home, even bragging about them:

This is a pattern of criminal activities, done in group and with resort to violence, coercion and intimidation as needed. Is this how the generation of future POTUS will have as role-model??

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/us/trump-investigations-charges-indictments.html

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Federal Jan. 6 Case
4 counts
Related to efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election and obstruct the certification of the electoral vote.

 
Election Inquiry in Georgia
13 counts
Related to efforts to reverse the 2020 election results in Georgia.

 
Classified Documents Case
40 counts
Related to possession of classified documents and obstructing efforts to retrieve them.

 
Manhattan Criminal Case
34 counts
Related to falsifying business records.

 

This does not even speak of the intimidation by organisations linked to the MAGA Mafia, who send death threats or even attack violently after Trump's speeches. Even some people whose only fault were to work at a polling station had to get protected and got their lives "Trumped".

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Trump conspiracies inspire threats against judges, jurors and election workers

If you look at this trend, you will understand why dumbass BA is so keen on having a jury trial on everything. Would you have dared to be a jury when trialling Al-Capone?

Sometimes, being equidistant between two view of the world is not fair. Sometimes, there is actually a right and a wrong.


Nobody has time to waste on your silliness.

The people of the USA are waking up to the fact that all the things happening to Trump, are things that his enemies are doing against him, and that he isn't the one who has done them.

All the things you show against Trump, are lies that his enemies are doing against him. They don't like the idea of MAGA (making America great) because it would take away from their unethical or illegal profits, and might get them prison terms. So, they are accusing Trump of the things that they themselves are doing... just so they can keep hiding and making their illicit profits.

Cool

Make America full of Gangsters Again. MAGA
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Well, then Al Capone was just a tax evader, because they could not prove anything else?

This is not name calling. Trump is being judged under RICO (The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act), specifically designed for mobsters, drug cartels and organised crime. There are already several members of the MAGA mafia that turned up on Trump. There has been a full enquire in Congress about the assault of the  Capitol. Trump HAS been already declared guilty in New York. The Colorado Court clearly stated he IS an insurrectionist - even the minority opinion does not question the organised crime activities, but rather who and when can enforce the Constitution and other peripheral issues of procedure.

I am just not falling into the MAGA Mafia narrative that "all that is equal to zero" and I recommend you examine the facts, not the "narratives".

Charges for keeping state secrets in accessible places in his home, even bragging about them:

This is a pattern of criminal activities, done in group and with resort to violence, coercion and intimidation as needed. Is this how the generation of future POTUS will have as role-model??

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/us/trump-investigations-charges-indictments.html

Quote
Federal Jan. 6 Case
4 counts
Related to efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election and obstruct the certification of the electoral vote.

 
Election Inquiry in Georgia
13 counts
Related to efforts to reverse the 2020 election results in Georgia.

 
Classified Documents Case
40 counts
Related to possession of classified documents and obstructing efforts to retrieve them.

 
Manhattan Criminal Case
34 counts
Related to falsifying business records.

 

This does not even speak of the intimidation by organisations linked to the MAGA Mafia, who send death threats or even attack violently after Trump's speeches. Even some people whose only fault were to work at a polling station had to get protected and got their lives "Trumped".

Quote

Quote
Trump conspiracies inspire threats against judges, jurors and election workers

If you look at this trend, you will understand why dumbass BA is so keen on having a jury trial on everything. Would you have dared to be a jury when trialling Al-Capone?

Sometimes, being equidistant between two view of the world is not fair. Sometimes, there is actually a right and a wrong.


Nobody has time to waste on your silliness.

The people of the USA are waking up to the fact that all the things happening to Trump, are things that his enemies are doing against him, and that he isn't the one who has done them.

All the things you show against Trump, are lies that his enemies are doing against him. They don't like the idea of MAGA (making America great) because it would take away from their unethical or illegal profits, and might get them prison terms. So, they are accusing Trump of the things that they themselves are doing... just so they can keep hiding and making their illicit profits.

Cool
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This dumbass is not accusing me of ignoring reality, he has accused me of being a criminal. I can provide abundant proof of him effectively being a dumbass - so I can perfectly claim that - while he cannot provide any proof of his accusations or, for that mater, for anything else he says.

He thinks wearing a condom makes you a criminal.  Don't worry about his accusations.  Just youtube Sovereign Citizen to see where he gets his argument tactics.   Round and round you go, facts ignored.  

I am not even sure how the "sovereign citizen" thing became an argument within the United States, by the way. It sounds rather like a legal gimmick which was successfully used once many years ago in a very specific scenario or something like it and since then it has been fruitlessly used by others in order to try to flee their legal issues. I am not a lawyer or a person who lives in the United States, so I could be completely wrong.

Also, the narrative of contraception being a bad thing in the USA is also something I would have not expected to see from a developed country, here in my republic we witness very irrational things happening which are not supposed to happen in any country which is considered to be civilized and yet, we all here agree access to condoms is important.

It is a topic I would need to ask about someone from the USA when I have got the chance.

It is the church dude, mostly the Evangelicals in Brazil or the Methodists in US. Just ask anyone in continental Europe how difficult was to get rid of the massive influence of the church in politics, and it is not over yet in many countries. Nobody voted the priests, yet they think they hold authority on others because their "imaginary friend" tells them so.

Look, many of the people who fled to the former colonies, now the US were being prosecuted for a variety of reasons many times for religion, so they were quite deep into several forms of Christianism. That has stayed, but also now significant part of the church in the US it is no better than the fucking Talibans, they are all about imposing their narrow view of the world on others and particularly telling women what they can and cannot do.

Look, if you think abortion is wrong, you do not do it, but you do not have to impose that on others. It is not stealing, killing people in random shootings or getting a credit falsifying the value of your assets - it is not a crime and should not be treated as such (my own view is that there is a biological timeframe for it in which the foetus is not yet a person as there is no brain activity - just my view).


How in the world dense can you get? Don't you even realize that politics is a religion in itself?

When the government wants to get rid of other religions... get them out of government... it's just so that their religion can stand stronger. Everybody loves the religion that he is in favor of... even government people.

You won't be liking the religion of government after the other religions are gone out of it. The exception is that maybe you are the Anti-Christ.

Cool

No, politics is not a religion, is the activities that are built around the organisation of human groups (perhaps even the organisation of any social animal group). You think it is a religion because you are mostly an dumbass mis-educated by youtube videos and the wrong kind of "friends".

Politics should be religion-free, the moments of greater human progress have been when religion has been where it has to be - within the sphere of private beliefs.

I may be wrong, but I think he talks about politics as a religion in the context of Political parties being distorted in their basic fundamentals and objectives. It is something it has been studied before, I think. Some states and regimes trying to replace religion by their own party ideas and using repression against the churches within the state.
For instance, the National socialist party of Germany in the long terms wanted to replace the church with the devotion to the Fuhrer and the party, while the Soviet Union directly prosecuted and tried to restrict religion, un both cases there was an obvious cult of personality in favor of their respective leaders.

Ideally, parties and political leaders are not supposed to be about blindly supporting the head of state or the secretary of the party. If tomorrow Joe Biden got disgraced by some actual scandal, the democrat voters are not supposed to continue to support him the same way they do today. The opposite is happening with Trump, it does not matter how much he does wrong, he continues to accumulates support. We could then extrapolate that MAGA is the opposite of what good politics is and the opposite of that a good party is, it looks more like a church than a political party at this point, tho.

I personally have come to the conclusion that Trump is effectively the leader of a criminal organisation (let's call it the MAGA Mafia). They are fully into sending murdering mobs to kill their political opponents, radicalising people to the point of assaulting their political rivals in the homes, coerce judges in social media and create a state of fear in society.

Not a Priest... A "Padrino"

I do not know of any country in which you can take the Congress by assault and do not pay any price for it. Not even in Brazil where Bolsonaro copy-catted Trump after Lula's victory, but had to flee.


I mean, I am not sure we are in the point where could could call Trump a criminal boss or a mobbster yet, he is yet to be found guilty of any crime or wrongdoing, even though he seems to be obviously responsible for what happened in the Capitol back in January 6th, the law is very explicit about the the fact everyone is supposed to be assume innocent until proven otherwise, behind any reasonable doubt.
If I had to classify the movement of Trump without going into calling him s criminal in such explicit way, then I would say it is a mixture of political party and some elements of cults: MAGA voters do not question Trump, they believe Trump was sent by God himself to direct the country to an era of prosperity, among other things weich are more common in cults than in political parties.
As soon as Trump is found guilty in anyone of their 91 charges against him across all the United States, I would be ready to call him a convicted criminal.

Well, then Al Capone was just a tax evader, because they could not prove anything else?

This is not name calling. Trump is being judged under RICO (The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act), specifically designed for mobsters, drug cartels and organised crime. There are already several members of the MAGA mafia that turned up on Trump. There has been a full enquire in Congress about the assault of the  Capitol. Trump HAS been already declared guilty in New York. The Colorado Court clearly stated he IS an insurrectionist - even the minority opinion does not question the organised crime activities, but rather who and when can enforce the Constitution and other peripheral issues of procedure.

I am just not falling into the MAGA Mafia narrative that "all that is equal to zero" and I recommend you examine the facts, not the "narratives".

Charges for keeping state secrets in accessible places in his home, even bragging about them:

This is a pattern of criminal activities, done in group and with resort to violence, coercion and intimidation as needed. Is this how the generation of future POTUS will have as role-model??

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/us/trump-investigations-charges-indictments.html

Quote
Federal Jan. 6 Case
4 counts
Related to efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election and obstruct the certification of the electoral vote.

 
Election Inquiry in Georgia
13 counts
Related to efforts to reverse the 2020 election results in Georgia.

 
Classified Documents Case
40 counts
Related to possession of classified documents and obstructing efforts to retrieve them.

 
Manhattan Criminal Case
34 counts
Related to falsifying business records.

 

This does not even speak of the intimidation by organisations linked to the MAGA Mafia, who send death threats or even attack violently after Trump's speeches. Even some people whose only fault were to work at a polling station had to get protected and got their lives "Trumped".

Quote

Quote
Trump conspiracies inspire threats against judges, jurors and election workers

If you look at this trend, you will understand why dumbass BA is so keen on having a jury trial on everything. Would you have dared to be a jury when trialling Al-Capone?

Sometimes, being equidistant between two view of the world is not fair. Sometimes, there is actually a right and a wrong.







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This dumbass is not accusing me of ignoring reality, he has accused me of being a criminal. I can provide abundant proof of him effectively being a dumbass - so I can perfectly claim that - while he cannot provide any proof of his accusations or, for that mater, for anything else he says.

He thinks wearing a condom makes you a criminal.  Don't worry about his accusations.  Just youtube Sovereign Citizen to see where he gets his argument tactics.   Round and round you go, facts ignored.  

I am not even sure how the "sovereign citizen" thing became an argument within the United States, by the way. It sounds rather like a legal gimmick which was successfully used once many years ago in a very specific scenario or something like it and since then it has been fruitlessly used by others in order to try to flee their legal issues. I am not a lawyer or a person who lives in the United States, so I could be completely wrong.

Also, the narrative of contraception being a bad thing in the USA is also something I would have not expected to see from a developed country, here in my republic we witness very irrational things happening which are not supposed to happen in any country which is considered to be civilized and yet, we all here agree access to condoms is important.

It is a topic I would need to ask about someone from the USA when I have got the chance.

It is the church dude, mostly the Evangelicals in Brazil or the Methodists in US. Just ask anyone in continental Europe how difficult was to get rid of the massive influence of the church in politics, and it is not over yet in many countries. Nobody voted the priests, yet they think they hold authority on others because their "imaginary friend" tells them so.

Look, many of the people who fled to the former colonies, now the US were being prosecuted for a variety of reasons many times for religion, so they were quite deep into several forms of Christianism. That has stayed, but also now significant part of the church in the US it is no better than the fucking Talibans, they are all about imposing their narrow view of the world on others and particularly telling women what they can and cannot do.

Look, if you think abortion is wrong, you do not do it, but you do not have to impose that on others. It is not stealing, killing people in random shootings or getting a credit falsifying the value of your assets - it is not a crime and should not be treated as such (my own view is that there is a biological timeframe for it in which the foetus is not yet a person as there is no brain activity - just my view).


How in the world dense can you get? Don't you even realize that politics is a religion in itself?

When the government wants to get rid of other religions... get them out of government... it's just so that their religion can stand stronger. Everybody loves the religion that he is in favor of... even government people.

You won't be liking the religion of government after the other religions are gone out of it. The exception is that maybe you are the Anti-Christ.

Cool

No, politics is not a religion, is the activities that are built around the organisation of human groups (perhaps even the organisation of any social animal group). You think it is a religion because you are mostly an dumbass mis-educated by youtube videos and the wrong kind of "friends".

Politics should be religion-free, the moments of greater human progress have been when religion has been where it has to be - within the sphere of private beliefs.

I may be wrong, but I think he talks about politics as a religion in the context of Political parties being distorted in their basic fundamentals and objectives. It is something it has been studied before, I think. Some states and regimes trying to replace religion by their own party ideas and using repression against the churches within the state.
For instance, the National socialist party of Germany in the long terms wanted to replace the church with the devotion to the Fuhrer and the party, while the Soviet Union directly prosecuted and tried to restrict religion, un both cases there was an obvious cult of personality in favor of their respective leaders.

Ideally, parties and political leaders are not supposed to be about blindly supporting the head of state or the secretary of the party. If tomorrow Joe Biden got disgraced by some actual scandal, the democrat voters are not supposed to continue to support him the same way they do today. The opposite is happening with Trump, it does not matter how much he does wrong, he continues to accumulates support. We could then extrapolate that MAGA is the opposite of what good politics is and the opposite of that a good party is, it looks more like a church than a political party at this point, tho.

I personally have come to the conclusion that Trump is effectively the leader of a criminal organisation (let's call it the MAGA Mafia). They are fully into sending murdering mobs to kill their political opponents, radicalising people to the point of assaulting their political rivals in the homes, coerce judges in social media and create a state of fear in society.

Not a Priest... A "Padrino"

I do not know of any country in which you can take the Congress by assault and do not pay any price for it. Not even in Brazil where Bolsonaro copy-catted Trump after Lula's victory, but had to flee.


I mean, I am not sure we are in the point where could could call Trump a criminal boss or a mobbster yet, he is yet to be found guilty of any crime or wrongdoing, even though he seems to be obviously responsible for what happened in the Capitol back in January 6th, the law is very explicit about the the fact everyone is supposed to be assume innocent until proven otherwise, behind any reasonable doubt.
If I had to classify the movement of Trump without going into calling him s criminal in such explicit way, then I would say it is a mixture of political party and some elements of cults: MAGA voters do not question Trump, they believe Trump was sent by God himself to direct the country to an era of prosperity, among other things weich are more common in cults than in political parties.
As soon as Trump is found guilty in anyone of their 91 charges against him across all the United States, I would be ready to call him a convicted criminal.
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This dumbass is not accusing me of ignoring reality, he has accused me of being a criminal. I can provide abundant proof of him effectively being a dumbass - so I can perfectly claim that - while he cannot provide any proof of his accusations or, for that mater, for anything else he says.

He thinks wearing a condom makes you a criminal.  Don't worry about his accusations.  Just youtube Sovereign Citizen to see where he gets his argument tactics.   Round and round you go, facts ignored.  

I am not even sure how the "sovereign citizen" thing became an argument within the United States, by the way. It sounds rather like a legal gimmick which was successfully used once many years ago in a very specific scenario or something like it and since then it has been fruitlessly used by others in order to try to flee their legal issues. I am not a lawyer or a person who lives in the United States, so I could be completely wrong.

Also, the narrative of contraception being a bad thing in the USA is also something I would have not expected to see from a developed country, here in my republic we witness very irrational things happening which are not supposed to happen in any country which is considered to be civilized and yet, we all here agree access to condoms is important.

It is a topic I would need to ask about someone from the USA when I have got the chance.

It is the church dude, mostly the Evangelicals in Brazil or the Methodists in US. Just ask anyone in continental Europe how difficult was to get rid of the massive influence of the church in politics, and it is not over yet in many countries. Nobody voted the priests, yet they think they hold authority on others because their "imaginary friend" tells them so.

Look, many of the people who fled to the former colonies, now the US were being prosecuted for a variety of reasons many times for religion, so they were quite deep into several forms of Christianism. That has stayed, but also now significant part of the church in the US it is no better than the fucking Talibans, they are all about imposing their narrow view of the world on others and particularly telling women what they can and cannot do.

Look, if you think abortion is wrong, you do not do it, but you do not have to impose that on others. It is not stealing, killing people in random shootings or getting a credit falsifying the value of your assets - it is not a crime and should not be treated as such (my own view is that there is a biological timeframe for it in which the foetus is not yet a person as there is no brain activity - just my view).


How in the world dense can you get? Don't you even realize that politics is a religion in itself?

When the government wants to get rid of other religions... get them out of government... it's just so that their religion can stand stronger. Everybody loves the religion that he is in favor of... even government people.

You won't be liking the religion of government after the other religions are gone out of it. The exception is that maybe you are the Anti-Christ.

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No, politics is not a religion, is the activities that are built around the organisation of human groups (perhaps even the organisation of any social animal group). You think it is a religion because you are mostly an dumbass mis-educated by youtube videos and the wrong kind of "friends".

Politics should be religion-free, the moments of greater human progress have been when religion has been where it has to be - within the sphere of private beliefs.

I may be wrong, but I think he talks about politics as a religion in the context of Political parties being distorted in their basic fundamentals and objectives. It is something it has been studied before, I think. Some states and regimes trying to replace religion by their own party ideas and using repression against the churches within the state.
For instance, the National socialist party of Germany in the long terms wanted to replace the church with the devotion to the Fuhrer and the party, while the Soviet Union directly prosecuted and tried to restrict religion, un both cases there was an obvious cult of personality in favor of their respective leaders.

Ideally, parties and political leaders are not supposed to be about blindly supporting the head of state or the secretary of the party. If tomorrow Joe Biden got disgraced by some actual scandal, the democrat voters are not supposed to continue to support him the same way they do today. The opposite is happening with Trump, it does not matter how much he does wrong, he continues to accumulates support. We could then extrapolate that MAGA is the opposite of what good politics is and the opposite of that a good party is, it looks more like a church than a political party at this point, tho.

I personally have come to the conclusion that Trump is effectively the leader of a criminal organisation (let's call it the MAGA Mafia). They are fully into sending murdering mobs to kill their political opponents, radicalising people to the point of assaulting their political rivals in the homes, coerce judges in social media and create a state of fear in society.

Not a Priest... A "Padrino"

I do not know of any country in which you can take the Congress by assault and do not pay any price for it. Not even in Brazil where Bolsonaro copy-catted Trump after Lula's victory, but had to flee.

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I talk about politics as a religion according to the dictionary definition. It's shown, above, at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63380650.

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This dumbass is not accusing me of ignoring reality, he has accused me of being a criminal. I can provide abundant proof of him effectively being a dumbass - so I can perfectly claim that - while he cannot provide any proof of his accusations or, for that mater, for anything else he says.

He thinks wearing a condom makes you a criminal.  Don't worry about his accusations.  Just youtube Sovereign Citizen to see where he gets his argument tactics.   Round and round you go, facts ignored.  

I am not even sure how the "sovereign citizen" thing became an argument within the United States, by the way. It sounds rather like a legal gimmick which was successfully used once many years ago in a very specific scenario or something like it and since then it has been fruitlessly used by others in order to try to flee their legal issues. I am not a lawyer or a person who lives in the United States, so I could be completely wrong.

Also, the narrative of contraception being a bad thing in the USA is also something I would have not expected to see from a developed country, here in my republic we witness very irrational things happening which are not supposed to happen in any country which is considered to be civilized and yet, we all here agree access to condoms is important.

It is a topic I would need to ask about someone from the USA when I have got the chance.

It is the church dude, mostly the Evangelicals in Brazil or the Methodists in US. Just ask anyone in continental Europe how difficult was to get rid of the massive influence of the church in politics, and it is not over yet in many countries. Nobody voted the priests, yet they think they hold authority on others because their "imaginary friend" tells them so.

Look, many of the people who fled to the former colonies, now the US were being prosecuted for a variety of reasons many times for religion, so they were quite deep into several forms of Christianism. That has stayed, but also now significant part of the church in the US it is no better than the fucking Talibans, they are all about imposing their narrow view of the world on others and particularly telling women what they can and cannot do.

Look, if you think abortion is wrong, you do not do it, but you do not have to impose that on others. It is not stealing, killing people in random shootings or getting a credit falsifying the value of your assets - it is not a crime and should not be treated as such (my own view is that there is a biological timeframe for it in which the foetus is not yet a person as there is no brain activity - just my view).


How in the world dense can you get? Don't you even realize that politics is a religion in itself?

When the government wants to get rid of other religions... get them out of government... it's just so that their religion can stand stronger. Everybody loves the religion that he is in favor of... even government people.

You won't be liking the religion of government after the other religions are gone out of it. The exception is that maybe you are the Anti-Christ.

Cool

No, politics is not a religion, is the activities that are built around the organisation of human groups (perhaps even the organisation of any social animal group). You think it is a religion because you are mostly an dumbass mis-educated by youtube videos and the wrong kind of "friends".

Politics should be religion-free, the moments of greater human progress have been when religion has been where it has to be - within the sphere of private beliefs.

I may be wrong, but I think he talks about politics as a religion in the context of Political parties being distorted in their basic fundamentals and objectives. It is something it has been studied before, I think. Some states and regimes trying to replace religion by their own party ideas and using repression against the churches within the state.
For instance, the National socialist party of Germany in the long terms wanted to replace the church with the devotion to the Fuhrer and the party, while the Soviet Union directly prosecuted and tried to restrict religion, un both cases there was an obvious cult of personality in favor of their respective leaders.

Ideally, parties and political leaders are not supposed to be about blindly supporting the head of state or the secretary of the party. If tomorrow Joe Biden got disgraced by some actual scandal, the democrat voters are not supposed to continue to support him the same way they do today. The opposite is happening with Trump, it does not matter how much he does wrong, he continues to accumulates support. We could then extrapolate that MAGA is the opposite of what good politics is and the opposite of that a good party is, it looks more like a church than a political party at this point, tho.
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How in the world dense can you get? Don't you even realize that politics is a religion in itself?

When the government wants to get rid of other religions... get them out of government... it's just so that their religion can stand stronger. Everybody loves the religion that he is in favor of... even government people.

You won't be liking the religion of government after the other religions are gone out of it. The exception is that maybe you are the Anti-Christ.

Cool

No, politics is not a religion, is the activities that are built around the organisation of human groups (perhaps even the organisation of any social animal group). You think it is a religion because you are mostly an dumbass mis-educated by youtube videos and the wrong kind of "friends".

Politics should be religion-free, the moments of greater human progress have been when religion has been where it has to be - within the sphere of private beliefs.

Dictionary definition of religion. The definition below is not all inclusive, of course.

religion
[ ri-lij-uhn ]

noun

...

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

So, what is your religion? We all see it every time you post something.

Btw, it's Sunday. Did you make it to church?

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This dumbass is not accusing me of ignoring reality, he has accused me of being a criminal. I can provide abundant proof of him effectively being a dumbass - so I can perfectly claim that - while he cannot provide any proof of his accusations or, for that mater, for anything else he says.

He thinks wearing a condom makes you a criminal.  Don't worry about his accusations.  Just youtube Sovereign Citizen to see where he gets his argument tactics.   Round and round you go, facts ignored.  

I am not even sure how the "sovereign citizen" thing became an argument within the United States, by the way. It sounds rather like a legal gimmick which was successfully used once many years ago in a very specific scenario or something like it and since then it has been fruitlessly used by others in order to try to flee their legal issues. I am not a lawyer or a person who lives in the United States, so I could be completely wrong.

Also, the narrative of contraception being a bad thing in the USA is also something I would have not expected to see from a developed country, here in my republic we witness very irrational things happening which are not supposed to happen in any country which is considered to be civilized and yet, we all here agree access to condoms is important.

It is a topic I would need to ask about someone from the USA when I have got the chance.

It is the church dude, mostly the Evangelicals in Brazil or the Methodists in US. Just ask anyone in continental Europe how difficult was to get rid of the massive influence of the church in politics, and it is not over yet in many countries. Nobody voted the priests, yet they think they hold authority on others because their "imaginary friend" tells them so.

Look, many of the people who fled to the former colonies, now the US were being prosecuted for a variety of reasons many times for religion, so they were quite deep into several forms of Christianism. That has stayed, but also now significant part of the church in the US it is no better than the fucking Talibans, they are all about imposing their narrow view of the world on others and particularly telling women what they can and cannot do.

Look, if you think abortion is wrong, you do not do it, but you do not have to impose that on others. It is not stealing, killing people in random shootings or getting a credit falsifying the value of your assets - it is not a crime and should not be treated as such (my own view is that there is a biological timeframe for it in which the foetus is not yet a person as there is no brain activity - just my view).


How in the world dense can you get? Don't you even realize that politics is a religion in itself?

When the government wants to get rid of other religions... get them out of government... it's just so that their religion can stand stronger. Everybody loves the religion that he is in favor of... even government people.

You won't be liking the religion of government after the other religions are gone out of it. The exception is that maybe you are the Anti-Christ.

Cool

No, politics is not a religion, is the activities that are built around the organisation of human groups (perhaps even the organisation of any social animal group). You think it is a religion because you are mostly an dumbass mis-educated by youtube videos and the wrong kind of "friends".

Politics should be religion-free, the moments of greater human progress have been when religion has been where it has to be - within the sphere of private beliefs.
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