Topic: The Legendary Forumla of Dip = Opportunity (Read 726 times)

Altcoins have the habit of not recovering from dips not bitcoin. You can confirm this by looking into bitcoin charts and comparing them with altcoin charts. History will speak for itself.

You dont need to find the deepest dip. When the price drops, everyone will flock into to buy, so catching the lowest price is never possible even for a quick trader due to a lot of factors. But buying at a low price near that lowest point is important. You might completely miss the dip, in which case just wait it out. Trading is not about being the best, it is about being consistent with trades.

A likely scenario during a bear market. If you already bought and spend all your allocated budget then just wait for it to go back up. If you havent spent all your money, keep buying in smaller fractions as it goes down. Note these in a personal chart so you know when you sell how much profit you are making.

In general, the market itself is quite difficult, and at the same time requires a sufficient level of training. Otherwise, it is extremely difficult to get a result.

I agree with the first one, the "bad news" is the reason why it went low, but the news was regarding finance this time around. I mean FED increasing the interest rate means that there would be money going out of crypto (and stock market and gold etc etc) and going into interest instead.

So, it is not just bad news, it's what the news is about. The other parts are correct, there is nothing to argue against it, bitcoin and alts are correlated and traded together, hence why they move together that's true, DCA is definitely a way to go, and rebuying right away would work too, because selling when it's low is a bad move, and fourth one is also quite correct in this market, maybe not so much in stock world, but it is unknown in crypto.

what is certain is that in investing bitcoin, the risk becomes our friend. I think that if we understand the behavior of bitcoin movements, the biggest risk is waiting for the bullish season to come, because we know to always hold on to when prices decline during a bearish season like today, and those who panic, of course, many sell in conditions make a loss, and in the end regret it in the future

I will disagree on your last statement. Not every dip is an opportunity. Some dips never recovers. So, it depends on the coin in question. If you say a dip for BTC is an opportunity, I may agree with you but the question is, can you tell the dippest dip. What if you buya dip, and it keeps dipping?

1. News or events in the market
2. Correlation of price is always next in line
3. DCA would be ideal
4. Resistance and Support is always unknown

Whenever you do make out decisions then it wont be precisely 100% sure that it would work.No matter how old or veteran or pro you are
into this market you are still not sure on what would be the outcome about on your price predictions.

It is because of this that I have always thought that the worst thing that can happen to a newbie in the markets is to get some early and undeserved profits, but why is this the case? Because they may get the impression that making profits in the markets is easy and they do not need to study them, then when their luck runs out and they make huge losses instead of trying to learn more about the markets they will think they are experimenting bad luck, when in fact the only thing that is happening is that they do not have good luck on their side anymore.

It was luna who crash, what is its relation to the stable coins? Nothing, so it is safe to continue buying them and I think it's not the luna who make its twitter account private but after the crash, there are still posts on their account and they also advised people to stay calm because they are preparing something and they will give an airdrop to those who lost their money in luna.

It was the shiba inu that allegedly removes all its twitter post as well as other blog posts and articles. I don't know if this is a sign that they are turning into a scam but it was already expected anyway since the start so there is nothing to be blame here only those who invest on this meme coin.

It has always been a complaint about stable coins, take for example I can remember that a lot of people used to complain about USDT, until today there are still people complaining about how it is not fully backed by the US dollar, but by some other assets that the company owns or whatever. So in a case like this, maybe considering the stable coins which are decentralized might be a better option.

But as for me, I haven’t really made use of any stable coin, I’m always making use of Bitcoin, ethereum, and a few other cryptocurrencies that I feel are reliable, and no stable coin is on the list. But if anyone should be considering a stable coin, then I might say that DAI, which is a decentralized stable coin would be a good option here.

During the dip, people are having a hard time making decisions because of fear but they easily make up their own minds when the market recovers and buy during the bull season which makes them lose a lot. When others are in fear, wise investors must take advantage of the market. Buy potential coins which we know can recover after the bear season and hold them until the bull market approaches.

Every dip is an opportunity no doubt but then aside the fact that people are scared of taking risks at the right time and start asking certain questions as to when to buy or when to sell, it would be good to know that the dip in most cases favors those with funds and not those with little. When your capital is already invested in crypto and a sudden dip comes in, people become caught up in the point of "should I sell now "?. So it's either they take the little profit at the time and not become greedy or they sell at little loss instead of hoping and hoping that it would go back up. They could also hodl but for those with a lot of funds they could also hodl and at the same time buy more when it dips. So every dip is an opportunity but it mostly favors those with enough funds

If we can't manage to hold, converting our crypto t fiat money is highly recommended rather than sacrificing and hurting ourselves thinking about the current situation.

But if we can, I don't think stablecoins are an option due to some issues of scam exit and devaluated, we instead choose Bitcoin and ETH for long-term investment. With this bear season, we look for sustainable projects, not those that have been created for hypes and useless projects. Likely not meme coins.

Some stable coins are better, Terra UST was just so common because it got to billions of dollars marketcap, I think it got to $10 billion or so. There are many algorithmic stable coin in the past that failed just like luna, there are good ones that are not algorithmic, they are better, example are dai, usdc and tusd. But I will recommend people to convert to fiat which is safer than stable coin.

Trusting those stable coins after Luna crash is not at all good decision and the owner of funds has cashed out millions already and his Twitter profile going private giving clear signs of rug making the market loose badly and also some mentally sick due to big loss.This might happen with some other stable coin also so for me it's not going to work anymore but yes investment in btc is surely wise moves especially during these dips contrary to those are selling at this time.Just holding them not trading for long term is best solution for me.

I don't need to sell they just turn to zero

Demand and supply forces , after a long rally Bitcoin usually takes a correction back to those rally.


This is how the algorithm of the market works it is set that Bitcoin drives the entire Cryptos.



Bull run usually kick start after every having , So Buy and HODL Bitcoin for 4  years
Resistance is at ATH

We do really have that beginners luck but we know that this is something that cant really sustain for long term and on the time where they do experience profitable trades then they would mainly thought that trading is easy
then they do become confident and this is where losses starts to come out and which it is really just a normal scenario because people wont eventually learn if they wont experiences losses.
Whenever the market price declines then its not always means about opportunity specially on altcoins which we know that there are indeed tendency of long time recovery or doesnt really pump anymore
thats why any decision to be made does have corresponding risk which is pretty basic so its up to someone on how they would gonna deal with it or accept it.

Day traders know their game too, they would rather day trade than hold - their daily earning is not huge but enough happening everyday keeps the machine going. While long term traders will make medium chunks of money at a certain interval, so both ends up equating to an extent. Of course it is a matter of choice and practice, but day trading is more risky than long term. Those who have the faith for long term also often day trade because they know bitcoin is here to stay. The ones who dont have the faith and still day trade are going to lose.

5days max is often the goal for many newbies - you will be surprised to know how many are out there doing this. For them a dip is like the end of the world. Not having read charts and previous market movements leads to these types of wrong decisions.

At the end of the day the markets are at their core a decision making contest, no one is perfect and we will make mistakes but the ones which on average take better decisions will make profits while those which make the most mistakes will lose it, it is that simple, and truth to be told newbies do not have what it is necessary to take the right decisions the majority of the time, meaning that even if they get lucky once in a while, over the long term their decision making ability will come up short and they will eventually suffer massive losses.

When im still noob then i do really freak out whenever the market do make out some deep corrections but later on when you do gain sufficient experience then you would be finding these things to be on other way around

on which you would see an opportunity for you to buy cheaper coins although this one would really be requiring good emotional handling which it would really be affecting your decisions specially on investing.

Dip = Opportunity but not all does have the courage or capability in doing so thats why we do miss out opportunities.

When you enter the market without any in-depth research and on gaining idea on how your investments will prosper, expect that it will be totally hard for you to manage your investments and may don't even know how to act accordingly either to buy or sell when the market is showing crypto prices in dips.  For most of the newbies, they develop fear and panic when the prices have become unstable and ends up selling their coins at a loss. While smart investors act fast and takes advantage on buying for potential coins while the market is giving dip opportunities to buy and hodl.

Traders may not feel the same way, because traders are not after making a quick buck, they are after making a huge profit and that is why they are not seeing this return. However, if we are talking about long term investors, they see a lot better in the future of crypto and that is why they believe that the investment you make right now, should be fine because we believe it will be higher eventually anyway.

If you are willing to hold bitcoin for 5 years versus max 5 days, then you will know the difference. So this dip, is a miracle for some people, miracle that they didn't believe it would happen and that is why it is loved by many so much.

This has been my mindset during the dip. Just like others, I used to fear the bearish market. I thought that I could lose my investments but as time goes on, I realized that it was already the market situation that was offering me a chance to buy while the price of my target coins is still cheap. Instead of buying during the green market, it would be best to grab the opportunity to accumulate coins during the bearish season. While others are in fear, you should be brave to fill in your baskets.

Fellow member, you are a mean dude!

Seeing a portfolio in red is a concern. But everyone has their own coping methods. Those who have this are the ones who survive a long drawn bear market. It helps having saving at hand and not having invested more than they could lose. Additional investments in other market which may fortunately be green gives relief too. After all buying more may not always be possible because those liquid funds are also finite.

Dedication and patience is something that differs on each person on where there are some who could really have these kind of traits and there are some who do easily panic and freak out whenever they do see the

market is declining which is something very normal can be seen around and for those people who are fully aware on how this market works and behaves are the ones who do know on the things that they must do.

Some do panic sell but some would see this as an opportunity for you to get in thats why you should really know to differentiate as a trader/investor.

You are correct, however we must understand that while we are 100% committed to hold our bitcoin no matter what as we are completely convinced about our actions, the will of your average trader or investor is many times weaker than that, a great deal of them just wanted to obtain some profits and then they got trapped in a bear market without knowing what to do, and now instead of having the profits they envisioned they got losses which are way higher than what they can resist, which is why they end up selling their coins for such a low price.

@Dave1, correct that’s the idea here. Most of them loose hopes to faith everything at once in the bearish market because they are not sure if they will ever recover the money they have invested into it. The problem with the current situation is similar to what it was Back in 2017 or before that; only the reason for drop is completely different. That will always keep changing, bitcoin will always keep falling and rising so why worry and go sell our portfolio. Like you said, bagging more portfolio is ideal rather than sitting and frustrating for sell off. If we are in the crypto and purchased something then there should be long term thinking that should go in.

You're right, it's a hard pill to swallow when you see your portfolio in red, however, why not take that opportunity to continue to accumulate and fill out your bags with cheap bitcoin?


Only the experience one can take away from FOMO when they are trading or investing. Majority of us are emotional as far as our investment goes as it might be our hard earn money or we can't afford to lose it most of the times. So it drive us nuts to see that we have losses, nevertheless, we can take that negative and transform it into positive when we know what we are doing.

Opportunities are said to never be missed but somehow you should need to assess the market if there are better opportunities that will come or you will just settle on what is happening in the present. Otherwise, you have used up all your funds buying those new and unestablished coins, when you should be waiting for those old but established coins to start bargaining their prices. Yes, its true that bear market creates opportunities, but the outcome of your investment still greatly depends on the coins you chose to invest.

Buying the DIP is actually a big opportunity, however, some people never appreciate it instead, they are started to think negatively about seeing the red color line in the chart.

FOMO? We don't let this thing drives us as this might be the reason for our losses. We better decide the thing that we think it gives us favor in the end.
If this will be the best formula (DIP = Opportunity), then I have to support it but never I ask people to do so, unless if they are willing to take tisk.

1. Highest price in bull run is unknown.
2. Perfect sell is depending on your/Depends on your target or goals

1. Fall or decline is part of this market so get used to  it.
2. Correlation is there but not 100% it do follows most of the time
3. Panic sell? Buy on dip at least
4.. Resistance could potentially break but with technicals you could plot out at least.

That is just market, some people have experience already, some people can take risks, some people are just newbies and like to fomo, people are just different and they have different opinions. Some people will know that the market is very bullsih and they will buy but just to sell very fast in a way they only need few price increase of the coin they buy. What I am implying is that people have different opinions, some people will make profit and some people are losing. Be it any condition we found ourselves, we should just be able to manage our losses, if investing, we should invest what we are able to afford to lose, that is very important.

Thanks just right In my opinion too, even buying bitcoin now for long term investment is not a bad idea at all, I am certain of that, patience is very important, the price of bitcoin can decrease the more and not favouring this period, but the best time will be over and bull time will come in a way ATH is achieved. This can take a long time, but it will surely happened. But some people are just with poor decision, like buying when the market is full of green candle sticks, which is very wrong to make profit from.

At the end of the day it is their call, the markets are not really a place for the people that cannot take a decision and stick with it, at some point a risk needs to be taken, buying bitcoin for 30k or 25k does not make a lot of difference in the long run, so those that are really thinking on holding their coins for the long term do not need to wait anymore and can buy all the bitcoin they want, those which want to catch the bottom are traders and indecisive investors, and while I can understand the posture of the traders as they are thinking about the short term this is simply unforgivable for an investor, because as you say most likely they will miss the opportunity to buy bitcoin for a good price by trying to buy bitcoin at the very bottom.

Maybe he sold his bitcoins out of panic, so he didn't think twice about keeping bitcoins until the price went up again. If he sells his bitcoins at a loss, he can try to buy bitcoins back at the next low because I see the bitcoin price could fall back to that low price.

We have the opportunity to sell bitcoin when the bitcoin price reaches the highest price as we have seen before. But the problem is that a greedy factor prevents us from selling it at that price, and we still want to wait a while in the hope that the price can jump to the next high. But unfortunately, the price is not always what we want, so in this case, we better be wise in dealing with it, and we can sell it at the highest price to get a profit.

And there are people who see it at 30k, and go "maybe it will go to 25k, I will wait some more" and then they regret it when it is 50k. Those people are the main reason why we are not high right now you know that right? If all of those people got together and bought right now, price would be 50k anyway. So these people who are waiting for it to go down, are the same people who end up missing out so much of crypto as well.

I believe that bitcoin and all other coins would be better off if people had a little bit more trust to it. Maybe it wouldn't be that great for everyone involved and some may lose some, but it would be totally great if everyone invested into it.

This is the funniest thing  
If there were a question like this, I will answer:
enjoy your loss LOL
It's not that I don't feel empathy, but yes, what else should you do if you sell Bitcoin at a loss? Shouldn't we sell it at a loss? Why should you panic and not just hold on?
But after all, everyone has their own thoughts and also different emotional control. In this case, if panic strikes, then there is a possibility that they will choose to sell it even at a loss.

This is the point. Except that we are holding shitcoins that head to be dead coins  

Those who think that the best time to buy would be the bull period, are the people who will make lesser profit but in a quicker time, those who buy from the bear period, will be the ones who will make greater profit but in a long term. Thats the difference. If you buy at 30k and wait for it to be 100k, you will make a ton of profit, if it goes from 30k to 60k and you buy there and then it reaches 100k, you will make a smaller profit, but the one who bought at 30k will wait maybe a year, whereas the other one will make it in a month. So ask yourself, would you rather make more but wait more, or wait less and make less?

The problem is that, not everyone in the market sees the same opportunity with others. While some buys in the dip, but others still believe that the bullish season is the best time to buy because their prices have still chances to increase more. But in reality, the crypto coins do not stay for long in peaks, but also fall in dips. That thing should be realized by everybody so that we will share the same opportunities in the same market season.

Not missing every opportunities in the market is certainly a smart move, but it will be a lot wiser if you also invest in those coins that have real utility cases in the market, and not those that overpriced coins that also promises huge potentials. Investors do always aim for bigger profits, but they can't expect that to happen from coins who have never proven their worth and are easily affected once the bearish market takes over in the market.

The mindset of some people had changed as the market trend changed as well. That is why we heard a lot being negative during the bear season and then turning optimistic during the bull market. And this is because we have been influenced by our emotions and mind. And the more got to check the market, and listen to/read the news and social media discussion, the more we lose our confidence.

That I suggest to everyone to keep positive despite the market dip and corrections. We have been tested for such things several times and I think it was enough to still believe in the bright future of the market.

Haha this is so true and I can relate to some of the points mentioned in the OP

When the price is down we are always telling ourselves that no matter what, I am going to buy when a dip happens. But once the price starts to drop the confidence is gone and we actually find it hard to hold onto the assets we have rather than buying Bitcoins or any other coins.

This is never going to change no matter how much experience or self-confidence you have because when the price drops, the market has a negative sentiment. You will not find many positive articles and the tweets all over Twitter are also negative.

That 1000 in your home or bank account being safer than 1000 in USDT is something that not many people realized so far. It is the truth, why would I trust a company called Tether, more than I trust my bank? I trust bitcoin and crypto because I know that there is nobody at the top of it, well there are some altcoins right now which do have creators and CEO's but I do not invest into them anyway.

So, when we are talking about something decentralized versus something centralized, I will pick the decentralized one, but here with USDT versus USD, we talk about centralized vs centralized and I would trust my bank way more than I trust tether company, not even close.

So what is the essence of this scheme? To be honest, I don’t even quite understand the features and profits yet.

You can't decide that whether it's the highest point or lowest but you should be having satisfactory returns instead of regretting later on.Suppose you invested in around $30k and when prices went to $50k also you have made profits so you need to decide to sell or to hold as it could go above or down after that.But when it's dipping people start panicking as if it was supposed to always rise and we can't change this.So best is to make your decisions.

This is what I keep in mind. I dont panic sell even the prices of my coins are falling, its because this is the nature of crypto. We cant expect the price to only move in one direction or to the direction that we anticipate it to be. Its understandable to have worries and doubt especially for newbies who are not used to a situation like this. But remember its only temporary and as long as you're not holding a shitcoins then you can expect your coins to recover once the market turn bullish again. Just look at the positive side of bearish market so you can see the opportunity that op is saying.

The "fear" people have right now with the currently dropped price, because at the end of the day the price dropped like crazy and that should be the reason to get hopeful but at the same we are talking about fear because of the drop and the reason of it. We should be focusing a bit more towards how it will go up, but not focus on the going down. We shouldn't really consider the current situation like a bad thing, we should be considering the current situation as a "temporary discount" and thats it.

I believe not all opportunities seem to bring profits at the end of the day. Although they may be productive temporarily, but you'll know its value won't stay high for long like those shitcoins and meme coins we used to invest. So its always a smart move not to seize every opportunity that comes, but to think more wisely if they can bring profits in your wallet in the long run.

That's how it should be.

But what's happening is that due to panic, they're forced to sell in losses and they can't control themselves doing that until they're able to gain experience and courage from the market's behavior.

Knowing the dip starts the idea if it's the good time to buy and there were experiences on my personal note and the others too that, when we buy at the dip, a dipper comes or a lower price comes.

Well said!

Thats why we do make learnings from time to time or on everyday when it comes to adjustments and sudden changes of our strategies or set-ups whenever we do see particular situations or scenarios that you havent encountered before.

The strategy that you had used on yesterday wont really be precisely be effective on tomorrows price condition.Opportunity is something depends  on someones own taking or decision
where some people do see an opportunity and some do see it as a warning etc. thats why actions would really vary.

I have seen so many similar legendary formulas and other things, but you need to understand one truth - time does not stand still. And those truths that worked yesterday are no longer relevant today.

Can we call it curiosity or anxiety maybe could say fear factor mostly influenced many individual by selling of their asset due to the market instability waving. What i mostly noticed is that spending time studying the market is very hard for mostly people or for those who just jumped into the market without properly analyzed the market when it goes against them that's when regrets comes fort leaving them in a confused state either to sell or buy neither hodl.

That is normal for us people to be curious on every things that are happening around us but it's too annoying already if we keep on repeating the same question when we knew to ourselves that we are not new here anymore. The question is totally fine to ask for someone that is new but better if they can also do a research. By doing it they can find the answers instantly.

When there's a bear the best thing to do is of course to keep on hodling or we can also keep on buying along with that but whenever the market is in bull run, I guess it is now safe to sell some of our assets for profits but if you are greedy or if you always have a high expectations/standards then fine you can keep on hodling.

Buy the dip and sell at high - this is the thing we are supposed to do but unfortunately, some people had made it wrong and they do the opposite. That is to see that not all traders become successful as in the first place, not all traders have the same strategies and mindset, it somehow to see failures.

It could be a great opportunity to buy at the dip but we don't know and are not even sure if these people can even hold and wait for the next pump.

That is what it is really exasperating when you deal with those people, personally I do not hold against them that they do not know much about trading or investing because we all begin that way, the issue is they want to get results that you cannot get in any other market, but at the same time they do not want to learn anything at all or wait long enough for those results to manifest themselves, and when you are faced with such irrational vision, in which they believe 100%, then there is no other option but to give up, let them do whatever they want and watch their eventual failure.

I am so thankful that I don't have any short position in Binance futures while I am sleeping, I am so dissapointed with the btc pump lols. Now I need to see the safest entry point I can get my self to buy in the long position. Happy trading everyone.!

Market is always been like this and yet no matter how good your analysis are but still it would neither be that effective or not due to various reasons and since this market do move on a random way
then there's no way that you could able to determine on which way to go but since we do need to make something to rely or look upon in terms of strategy or other related to it then
we would really be ending up on lots of formulas or ways on how to deal this unpredictable market.Dont try to make yourself get perfect because that would surely create desperation.

Loss, if they've sold at losses then that's a loss. But if they don't and just hold it, that's just paper loss.

People have to remember that when they sell and it's with the price that they'll be dwelling in losses then that's their mistake and personal decision.

But if not, they have to make sure that it's what they like to do even they know that there's a recovery period for bitcoin as usual and it's known by every investor that has been in here even just for a year or two.

There are enough formulas of all kinds, and in general there are not a few means of analysis. But in the end, bitcoin still fell below the forecast and people received losses.

Certainly there is no permanent loss or permanent profit, the market is in a state of constant fluctuation between ups and downs, if you see the market bearish, you have to do two things: If you have strong coins and you think they will rise in the future, the best solution is to hold in the bearish time until the Bullish market comes , but if you have shitCoins, the best solution is to get rid of it at the best price with the least loss.
Another thing that you should do in a bear market time is if you have some savings that you do not need at the moment you should buy strong coins such as bitcoin and ethereum because this is the best time to buy more of these strong coins and wait for the bull market.

Agree.
A big opportunity actually. Adding more to the assets by means of buying the same coins means helping to get higher demands and some investors just won't understand that. They are inclined to what is happening in front of them and start to panic instead of preparing for the future of it.
First, if you bought one coin that means you did your research and have faith it will increase its value again. So why would you panic sell instead of buying more?

You have to take into account that we constantly have an influx of brand new investors who know very little about what is actually going on, and instead of first researching what exactly it is, they invest first hoping for overnight profits. Some will succeed, but most will pay the price for their negligence and haste, although they could have protected their investment by devoting only a little more time to it.

In light of recent events, I would not call stablecoins a safe way to store value, as these are (mostly) fully centralized coins that can be frozen no matter where they are located. Technically, $1000 in your bank account or home safe is safer than $1000 in a stablecoin that can become unstable or frozen overnight.
 

Logic makes very little sense to most who can't stand their investment melting away, so they often try to save what can be saved in fear of losing even more. Part of that thinking stems from the fact that people don’t understand what they’ve invested in, but the biggest reason is that most gamble with the money they need, and can’t afford a long-term investment.

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@so98nn, you have a typo in the title - you probably meant to write a formula.

Yes cutting lose to a more bigger losses is smart too. A trader is based his movement through the patterns and chart, but we cant conclude that all are just relying on that especially when they saw the opposite direction of their strategy and ended up losing. There should always be a back up or should I say stop loss and not easily trust the analysis he just made hence it only served as a guide and not a total 100% result and emotions are the middle ground there.

Yes because many people use this opportunity to buy more bitcoin, I admit that even myself I am only looking for the price rather than making an analysis which I regret later on, everyone else needed to learn the fundamentals of not only buying when it is low, we need to learn to understand the chart, not because it is now dipped we will buy it urgently we need to if it is the right time to buy or not yet because it can go lower than expected based on our analysis of the chart.

On this issue of buying low, I don't advise people to just look at the price and say: "yes I will buy because the price is low" what is sad is that even on bitcoin related news channels they say: " today the price of bitcoin has dropped a lot, so people have a big chance to buy low." just because the price is at $29,000 and before it reached $60,000 doesn't mean that the price is low so it's time to buy because it's cheap and hodl for years and you'll get 2X profit. I think that this way of thinking is dangerous, I say that because the price can also drop to $3000, so what happens to the person who buys at $29000 and the price drops to $3000? In my opinion people need to use technical analysis to determine if it's really time to buy even if it's for long term hodl

All of this is merely a strategy of the strong hands and institutional investors to get money from weak hands into big players. They will buy every news channel every Twitter page to spread havoc and FUD in bearish times as if market is going to end tomorrow but then magically you will see market retracing back and touching all time highs when the strong hands have accumulated enough of bitcoins. The exactly inverse happens at the top so the best strategy obviously is to buy and keep on doing DCA in bearish times.

I do also understand that emotion can lead us into losses when we jump into it with out getting the proper timing but on some times it pays through too when the emotion helps a trader to exit a pending losing market. As a trader we can't avoid the uncertainty being created by our emotions but greatly we need to have better use of our  knowledge in the market if we have such understanding, the emotion influence will be reduced.

Yes the forum is flooded with those question at this moment also. I’m surprised why they do it even they know forum told us many times bitcoin will stabilise and bitcoin will make a come back in the future for sure. I have been keeping calm, literally moved my coins to cold storage so that I won’t sell them out of FOMO. The miscalculation will always follow us back of the mind so yes these stringent steps must be followed to avoid unwanted selling of coins. It’s good I’m on that page and not on the side where I’m asking those questions in the OP. 

That's what I thought ever since.

After all, if this market is still manipulated (which is very obvious) then this huge dump is not going to be the end of crypto.
How many times did people panic?

https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/


That's how many times we were given an opportunity.

With years of witnessing the market, you already know how this market moves. I'm not even panicked about the current situation, nor surprised as I have seen situations like this in the past, and I always love the action after a long bear market because when the bull market comes, it's always worth the wait and patience.

It also shows how easy it is to manipulate the market and play with our minds because we are being controlled and do as the whales want us to do.

I personally never get intimated by the market movement whether it's green or red unless there is some kind of news backing it up. For example, when BTC was accepted as a payment method by Tesla, there was a good reason for me to get hyped and I bought some more without looking at where and how the market is moving. Similarly, when they later announced that Tesla won't accept BTC anymore, I had a good reason to sell some of my reserves because the price will naturally dump slowly.

Still learning every day and trying to be mentally impeccable!

That's why if you will also notice, the more person stayed during those years of bull run or bear run, the more they know what will happen because they already experienced it from the time they stayed even how the market behaves, even me, especially on 2017-2018 bear market, it was my first time to experience a bear market and really worst!

Bitcoin going to zero means everyone selling it off their wallets. But to sell everything means somebody will need to buy it. There won’t be anyone left to buy if everyone started to sell, then how do you believe that it could go down to zero man? There will always be somebody whose buying because there are miners, investors who has deep rooted investments they will never ever leave bitcoin like this. There are pretty less chances of this happening.

It is tough to get a new investor in the market accustomed with the bear-bull cycle because most of them expect instant returns and having to hold through a bear market makes it all seem like a lie added to the fact that most no-coiners coming into bitcoin have a lot of fear and uncertainty about the physical existence of bitcoin and its legal condition.

This can be handled by not investing for those who have this fear or have prior observation sessions on bitcoin price cycles which can give them an idea about they are going to experience. This can reduce the future losses from panic selling and going FOMO.

However, the best trader is always the who has better experience at handling situations, knows how to manage a portfolio and knows when to take a break. Clearly, the market is not for everyone.

This is true however this is really hard and painful in real life especially when you can see its actual value and you down by a lot. Of course not all can endure such situation and eventually will cut their losses or panic selling to avoid overall loss. But thats impossible actually if you are in a good project that is considered blue chips.  Emotion is your enemy here and conquering that is a brave response. Lets admit that not all can do this but thats the reality of trading and losses. If you succumb to that and it will eat you alive.

^ Lol, this definitely right.
A lot of people ask why BTC drop the price and it begins to spread the FUD which is other newbies holder will do the same, panicking.
We should realize this attitude and don't tolerate this, we should be happy when there is a bear market so that we can fulfill your bag again for another investment. The fact is when people ask to invest in BTC when they saw there is a bull run in the market or they will say, it is too late to invest?

1. No one really knows in speaking with ATH
2. It does really depends on your own choice and preference when it comes to selling decisions

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1. Sell-off, Fud, Manipulation
2. It do always correlate with bitcoin trend most of the time but there are eventually who do goes opposite
3. Buyback if you could still take risk
4. This is where technical analysis do plays out or relevant thats why its important to know which you do at least know on whats happening.

You missed another popular statement coming up from some people who don't like the bitcoin which is Bitcoin is going to zero so sell as soon as possible. But how many times they will take to prove their views about cryptocurrencies was wrong all these years and they still stubborn to change it. Bear and Bull this has been the cycle of cryptocurrencies as well until now so take your chances and make most out of it.

Keep hearing those questions...and this it means that many were still new and no how about the market volatility.

But I think it is a need for them to understand and let them experience how the market works in order for them to understand clearly.
Those who come and join during the bullish season will certainly get surprised and then wonder why their portfolio losing its value.

And we can hide the fact that some are able to adapt to the situation and stop complaining but some couldn't accept it. Snd to see the reason why we can never stop hearing words like these..."what if?", "when bullish?"

Sadly most people new to trading are rather impatient, and I can understand them tbh. Understanding and putting into action are two different things after all, especially if we consider how this involves the personal savings of some people (even if most of the veteran traders keep on saying that only invest what you can lose).  Now if you were investing/trading for long and still panic at bear markets, well trading might not be for you. It's really risky not being able to change and adjust your mindset when investing after all.

This is something we will keep saying for a long time from now, and it's only imperative that we never stop saying it, because this is a new and growing form of investment and its only normal that we expect those type of questions from newbies who just joined the space, like I said in one of my previous posts here, those who were here in 2017/2018 bull run and saw how bitcoin dropped after that won't be really bothered or start asking  unnecessary questions concerning this current market condition,  we should be sure that those asking those type of questions are newbies in the space because with every bull run, comes newbies in this space who are also new holders, and this new holders don't really know how the market works, so it's imperative that we keep educating them and also do well to point them to past event so they can draw some knowledge from there.

This is a very important aspect in trading. Holding a crypto coin will let us participate from any future price increase, while losses in the meantime will only be realised if we actually sell our coins. That is why HODL investing is so attractive and profitable for many investors. Timing is the most important thing for day traders, only when they sell above their purchase price they are making profits. For day trading technical analysis is important and can predict trends to find the best timing to buy and sell. But when it comes to general trends there is a lot of politics involved. One good or bad news by a big government or investor can change the market. It's better not to try and find the lowest possible price, because if we wait too long we could miss out on the next rally. Once bitcoins reach a new ATH it doesn't matter so much if we bought our coins at 25, 30 or 35,000 USD.

I would never advice them to buy any random coins but for any dips it’s always best to secure the funds in stable coins. Looks way promising and better rather than selling it for the fiat and then re buying later. Crypto to crypto transaction makes sure we don’t get taxed for the sell off into bank accounts. At least that’s the case where crypto is now taxed and continuously traced for. I believe paying tax on crypto makes us loose money in the process.

Its the opportunity that goes to waste when you don't sell any of your tokens when its in the bull market. While you may not lose any coins, its the chance to multiply its quantity that goes to waste because of holding on to it. 

When they say don't fall in love to it, it may really mean sell when its price is high at the bear will come and the selling pressure will take away 80% of its value.

Indeed, the best opportunity to buy is when the price is experiencing a sharp decline. but sometimes we doubt whether this decline is the last, what if there is another decline, because in the cryptocurrency market the movements are often beyond our expectations, anything can happen. therefore it takes courage to take a measured attitude, so that we can take advantage of every moment, and do not be influenced by fud or fomo, but can take advantage of it without being greedy

Indeed, a great opportunity for us who are here for many years. But those who come during the peak season will certainly cry in vain.
However, I didn't put this as an option to think about the negative, this situation will come eventually.

Remembering the instability of the market, we can really be expecting such market behavior.
Buy the dip, making a chance to earn more. But this will depend on how we take a look at the market and either consider this as an opportunity or not.

interesting statement. and should be understood by all traders. especially beginners who always ask questions and panic when market trends change.

those who feel the most losses due to cut losses and enter again into other assets with the assumption that they want to return their capital. Honestly, it's hard if the market trend is still the same.

it would be better to sit back and forget about the market for a moment. we can return when panic doesn't overwhelm our emotions. we can only believe, that in the future, we will see the market take the assets that we have at a profit.

That's why they need to study first or do some research about crypto currency or what crypto they want to invest. Invest in yourself first by studying the more knowledge you have the less likely you will suffer from great loss. This is what most newbies would do, keep following the trend without even knowing what are they and it keeps happening.

How long these people would learn to do some research first about Bitcoin and altcoins. This forum is the best help they could get id they wanna know something but I guess they aren't interested in reading long written topics.

These questions are very common, it is normal to ask that questions. Everyone must be curious to know what the new ATH probably is. But if you aren't greedy and smart enough, you don't need to know it to sell your assets. Everyone should have a target, and the target won't be based on the ATH. The ideal target should be based on a realistic calculation about the possible raising of BTC price. The ideal time to sell is when the target has been achieved, no need to wait for the ATH.

That's exactly true. There is always a bullish and also bearish era in the crypto world. And if we have been here for a long time, we should have understood this cycle and taken every opportunity of each era both in bearish and also is bullish.
But Sadly, sometimes, not only beginners, feel panic when it's getting to head to the bearish era. When the price keeps falling at a certain rate and then keeps falling, again and again, many people panicked and say about the scam Bitcoin. And much more depression and FUD put in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
It's a little bit funny because sometimes, they say that too late to buy Bitcoin because the price has been high enough. But on the other hand, once the price is down and low enough, they are stressful.

Whereas, we can utilize every time to seek profits. For long-term holders moreover especially, bearish era is the best way to collect more Bitcoin, keep it in the wallet and holding for long term until meeting with the next target price in certain bullish era.

Sometimes people tend to buy only based what they can see people hype up over the internet without even thinking on the decision they made for that time so for this kind of actions they mostly encounter the hard lesson they faced. And that's expensive experience because we lose something huge before we learn something from our own mistake.

Beginner traders often neglect timing strategies so they are sometimes not ready for a longer bearish phase. Moreover, if they enter the previous phase early, they will have no better plan option than to take a loss because they do not reserve enough funds for their needs.

What you've said are true.

Before when I sell, I don't convert it to stable coins to retain the value of it and wait for the price dip because I'm using immediately the profit that I make from selling bitcoin.

But this time, if ever we go again back to the bull run. That's what I'm going to do, I'll try to maximize the profit that I've got and stay it with a stable coin for quite a long time before I spend it so that I get back the sold bitcoins cheaper with the profit.

The golden formula is complex and a mixture of many things.

- Capital: where is it from?
- Strategy: what is your plan with it? Investment, trading, gambling
- Time: what is time you plan for your investment, trading, gambling

Capital should be from your own money, which you don't actually need in a long term. Because crypto market is very volatile and you can not enter at bull market and if you enter in start of a bear market, you won't get profit but only loss before bear market ends and recovers. So if you have to sell your coins in bear market, you have huge loss.

Strategy should be investment, long term with your own money. Short term or mid term will be bad if you have to exit in bear market.

Time, it should match with your capital and strategy. Own money and long term will help you have enough time to at least exit when bear market ends and if you don't have profit, you will still have opportunity to get capital back or at least reduce your loss.

Trading is related to time, volatility does not matter unless you sell, but sometimes you are forced to sell at a time when the price is not appropriate, so the more impact you have, try not to covet too much and buy when others sell (they don't want to buy) and sell when it happens The opposite.

As for making profits, it is linked to the date of purchase more than the date of sale, meaning that you make profits when you buy at a low price, and thus determining entry points is much more important than exit/selling points.

Great advice for open-minded traders that newbie traders will understand because they have a lot of time checking their wallets for the price of their crypto investment. I admit that I was this kind of trader before I definitely buying the dip but if the dip still continue and I already used all the capital that I got to scoop it. It is always a psychological effect that there's a possibility that a long bearish market will occur since if you view the history as you said, There are times that this scenario will happen besides the bull. It's good to keep buying the dip but make sure you are using chart and indicators to make sure that you are not buying a suicide dip and let you wait for more than a year just to have breakeven or minor profit.

It's a repeated scenario where people doubt Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency, saying it's a scam already, price will become $0, etc. They will start to think of investing on it again when its price is nearly on its old all time high, that's where they are gonna buy, and will blame Bitcoin again if it falls down after they bought it.

That's why I never waste my time again in those kind of people, that think they could make a lot of money in Bitcoin overnight, which knowledge is too shallow when it comes to cryptocurrency but don't want to know more about it yet wants profits.

I'd go with a different advice and tell people to actually think twice or thrice about the 'crypto' they actually bought — if they actually do something decent, or if it's just your typical useless yet overpriced cryptocurrency. They need to sober up sooner or later, unless they want the markets itself to sober them up by teaching them a hard lesson.

It’s been so many years we have seen bitcoin and altcoins melody of bear and bull trends. Every time I see bull run, peeps will be asking two questions:

1) What is the highest bitcoin price in this bull run?
2) Is current price is perfect to sell my assets?

The funny part comes later when bitcoin starts falling down and goes all bearish. This is current live situation. In this trend there will be another set of questions like:

1) Why bitcoin is falling so harshly?
2) Why altcoins fall when bitcoin is falling?
3) I sold my bitcoins in loss, what should I do?
4) When will bitcoin go bull again and when is the resistance for current market?

Peeps, seriously everyone needs to pull their thoughts together when it comes to situation like this in the market. After all either market crashes or it goes up and all of us has to do is one god dam thing, you just hodl your crypto tight, either move them to stable coin economy to stop the losses.

However, in crypto space you should remember; you are not at all in loss if you have not sold any of your portfolio. This is common logic everyone must apply to their trading methods. 

Above questions are recurring, every time, every year. Pick the histograms, Check the cycles of bear-bull and stay relax!

If you see market dipping, then it’s not loss but it’s market whose giving you opportunity. Just take it