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Quote from: twister on March 03, 2015, 02:52:03 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on March 03, 2015, 02:13:29 AM

No. This is an argument for a like button which is harmless. A dislike button is pretty negative and will cause more harm than good. If you really disagree with something you can say it and state your reasons why. A like button is useful so you don't have to say a pointless thanks or I agree which adds nothing to the discussion.

Well I think both could have their own usefulness but I see you have already made up your mind about this, so there's no point in me arguing as my statement will be outweighed against yours. So I'll just quietly let myself out. Thanks

Typo? If not, please elaborate. Thanks!

'Like' button is useful to avoid posts like '+1', 'thanks' etc... But people who dislike a post also post their reason AFAIK. So just 'like' button is fine.

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Quote from: Monnt on March 03, 2015, 01:46:36 AM

A person has to be in your trust network first to be able to make an impact on another person's trust ratings.

Default user trust list have many users. Even if you don't add DefaultTrust, other people who add it can see the feedback as trusted.

Quote from: Monnt on March 03, 2015, 01:46:36 AM

If a newbie posts trust feedbacks without references, then everyone will know that it's an obvious scam.

Not all time. Trades can also be done in other places such as LBC & Bitcoin-OTC.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on March 03, 2015, 02:13:29 AM

No. This is an argument for a like button which is harmless. A dislike button is pretty negative and will cause more harm than good. If you really disagree with something you can say it and state your reasons why. A like button is useful so you don't have to say a pointless thanks or I agree which adds nothing to the discussion.

Well I think both could have their own usefulness but I see you have already made up your mind about this, so there's no point in me arguing as my statement will be outweighed against yours. So I'll just quietly let myself out. Thanks

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As above, they can just state their dislike of something by commenting on it and giving their reasons which people will usually do. Having to add a comment kind of defeats the purpose of a simple like/dislike button anyway.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on March 03, 2015, 02:13:29 AM

No. This is an argument for a like button which is harmless. A dislike button is pretty negative and will cause more harm than good. If you really disagree with something you can say it and state your reasons why. A like button is useful so you don't have to say a pointless thanks or I agree which adds nothing to the discussion.

Maybe... People who uses unlike buttons have to provide a reason?

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No. This is an argument for a like button which is harmless. A dislike button is pretty negative and will cause more harm than good. If you really disagree with something you can say it and state your reasons why. A like button is useful so you don't have to say a pointless thanks or I agree which adds nothing to the discussion.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on March 03, 2015, 01:58:06 AM

Quote from: twister on March 03, 2015, 01:38:00 AM

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Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 05:38:12 AM

Where people choose to pay seo's to buy likes just to gain popularity.

Yeah, because people here don't buy accounts so they can have better signature campaigns. Not at all.

Fine, if that's what everybody wants, let's do it. Let's make a "Like" button and see what incredible good it brings to the forum for without it we are all suffering from all the non-substantial posts and it will miraculously stop them. In fact why stop there let's bring in the reddit's karma (upvote & downvote) feature.

There's a massive difference between liking a post and up/down voting posts (especially in reddit's case). Nobody is saying it will revolutionise anything but it's a barbless addition in my opinion.

Ok. If not upvote downvote button, let's provide a dislike button with the like button. Because if I have the right to show my appreciation for a post, I should also have the right to show that I don't like a post.

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Quote from: twister on March 03, 2015, 01:38:00 AM

Quote from: R2D221 on March 02, 2015, 05:12:06 PM

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 05:38:12 AM

Where people choose to pay seo's to buy likes just to gain popularity.

Yeah, because people here don't buy accounts so they can have better signature campaigns. Not at all.

Fine, if that's what everybody wants, let's do it. Let's make a "Like" button and see what incredible good it brings to the forum for without it we are all suffering from all the non-substantial posts and it will miraculously stop them. In fact why stop there let's bring in the reddit's karma (upvote & downvote) feature.

There's a massive difference between liking a post and up/down voting posts (especially in reddit's case). Nobody is saying it will revolutionise anything but it's a barbless addition in my opinion.

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Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 06:41:29 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on March 02, 2015, 06:30:17 AM

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 06:15:28 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on March 02, 2015, 05:46:56 AM

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 05:38:12 AM

IMHO I don't like this idea, simply because I don't want to see this board turning into facebook. Where people choose to pay seo's to buy likes just to gain popularity.

If a person's post is 'Liked', it shouldn't go up or down. People also buy trust feedback. Does that mean trust system should be removed? No! I like this because we can avoid all one word posts - '+1', 'thanks' etc...

-MZ

I was under the impression that trust feedback can't be bought and people who are found doing that get negative feedback, if you're sure that it is going on please show some proof.

How can it not be bought? It's not that hard to do but those caught will likely get negative themselves or lose credibility.

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 06:15:28 AM

If you're right and this is happening than the trust system should be removed as well.

Don't be silly. Judges, police, athletes, politicians and everyone else can be bought too, does that mean we need to get rid of them and dismantle society too? No, you do your best to make sure it doesn't happen and punish those that are caught, but instances will slip through the net occasionally.

Well this certainly increases my confidence in the trust system. I wonder now though how many people who have green under their name are from real feed-backs and not bought ones.

A person has to be in your trust network first to be able to make an impact on another person's trust ratings.

If a newbie posts trust feedbacks without references, then everyone will know that it's an obvious scam.

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Quote from: R2D221 on March 02, 2015, 05:12:06 PM

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 05:38:12 AM

Where people choose to pay seo's to buy likes just to gain popularity.

Yeah, because people here don't buy accounts so they can have better signature campaigns. Not at all.

Fine, if that's what everybody wants, let's do it. Let's make a "Like" button and see what incredible good it brings to the forum for without it we are all suffering from all the non-substantial posts and it will miraculously stop them. In fact why stop there let's bring in the reddit's karma (upvote & downvote) feature.

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Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 05:38:12 AM

Where people choose to pay seo's to buy likes just to gain popularity.

Yeah, because people here don't buy accounts so they can have better signature campaigns. Not at all.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on March 02, 2015, 06:44:31 AM

The feedback system is there as a guide for you to make your own mind up on and is not a definitive or foolproof system. Just because someone has lots of feedback doesn't automatically make them trustworthy. You should look at the feedbacks on a case by case basis and see who they got them from and for what and that can help you make your mind up on that person, but as I said, it's just a guide to help you do so.

I understand and you're right. I think the easiest way to buy trust would be to buy an old account with +ve trust, or do fake trades/giveaways or give out loans. So in the eyes of the community you'd look like a generous and reputed person.

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The feedback system is there as a guide for you to make your own mind up on and is not a definitive or foolproof system. Just because someone has lots of feedback doesn't automatically make them trustworthy. You should look at the feedbacks on a case by case basis and see who they got them from and for what and that can help you make your mind up on that person, but as I said, it's just a guide to help you do so.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on March 02, 2015, 06:30:17 AM

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 06:15:28 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on March 02, 2015, 05:46:56 AM

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 05:38:12 AM

IMHO I don't like this idea, simply because I don't want to see this board turning into facebook. Where people choose to pay seo's to buy likes just to gain popularity.

If a person's post is 'Liked', it shouldn't go up or down. People also buy trust feedback. Does that mean trust system should be removed? No! I like this because we can avoid all one word posts - '+1', 'thanks' etc...

-MZ

I was under the impression that trust feedback can't be bought and people who are found doing that get negative feedback, if you're sure that it is going on please show some proof.

How can it not be bought? It's not that hard to do but those caught will likely get negative themselves or lose credibility.

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 06:15:28 AM

If you're right and this is happening than the trust system should be removed as well.

Don't be silly. Judges, police, athletes, politicians and everyone else can be bought too, does that mean we need to get rid of them and dismantle society too? No, you do your best to make sure it doesn't happen and punish those that are caught, but instances will slip through the net occasionally.

Well this certainly increases my confidence in the trust system. I wonder now though how many people who have green under their name are from real feed-backs and not bought ones.

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Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 06:15:28 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on March 02, 2015, 05:46:56 AM

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 05:38:12 AM

IMHO I don't like this idea, simply because I don't want to see this board turning into facebook. Where people choose to pay seo's to buy likes just to gain popularity.

If a person's post is 'Liked', it shouldn't go up or down. People also buy trust feedback. Does that mean trust system should be removed? No! I like this because we can avoid all one word posts - '+1', 'thanks' etc...

-MZ

I was under the impression that trust feedback can't be bought and people who are found doing that get negative feedback, if you're sure that it is going on please show some proof.

How can it not be bought? It's not that hard to do but those caught will likely get negative themselves or lose credibility.

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 06:15:28 AM

If you're right and this is happening than the trust system should be removed as well.

Don't be silly. Judges, police, athletes, politicians and everyone else can be bought too, does that mean we need to get rid of them and dismantle society too? No, you do your best to make sure it doesn't happen and punish those that are caught, but instances will slip through the net occasionally.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on March 02, 2015, 05:46:56 AM

Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 05:38:12 AM

IMHO I don't like this idea, simply because I don't want to see this board turning into facebook. Where people choose to pay seo's to buy likes just to gain popularity.

If a person's post is 'Liked', it shouldn't go up or down. People also buy trust feedback. Does that mean trust system should be removed? No! I like this because we can avoid all one word posts - '+1', 'thanks' etc...

-MZ

I was under the impression that trust feedback can't be bought and people who are found doing that get negative feedback, if you're sure that it is going on please show some proof. If you're right and this is happening then the trust system should be removed as well.

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Quote from: SaltySpitoon on March 02, 2015, 01:49:21 AM

The idea has been proposed and shot down in the past, people that get too caught up on whether their posts will be popular or unpopular end up censoring themselves.

I don't think it was 'shot down' exactly but there are arguments for and against it. I think the positives outweigh the negatives though.

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Quote from: grendel25 on March 02, 2015, 12:27:35 AM

It's probably already been suggested but in regards to a discussion about this bitcoin forum, it would be cool to have a "like" button per-post rather than replying to a post to simply say I like what you said. I don't think it should be used as any sort of ranking or to serve as a valuable/farmable commodity of how many "likes" any post gets... just mean it as a way to cut down on the unnecessaries.

Yeah. So people won't clutter the thread with "+1" and stuff like that.

+1 btw Grin

Agreed. It would cut down on these posts, which usually get deleted, but it also lets others know your appreciation of their help or contribution without having to type 'thanks' or whatever.

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We don't need this. To many people have a image neurosis. Wink

Spam could be avoided by adding a simple system. For example a post must have 100+ characters or it posts without signature...

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Quote from: twister on March 02, 2015, 05:38:12 AM

IMHO I don't like this idea, simply because I don't want to see this board turning into facebook. Where people choose to pay seo's to buy likes just to gain popularity.

If a person's post is 'Liked', it shouldn't go up or down. People also buy trust feedback. Does that mean trust system should be removed? No! I like this because we can avoid all one word posts - '+1', 'thanks' etc...

-MZ

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IMHO I don't like this idea, simply because I don't want to see this board turning into facebook. Where people choose to pay seo's to buy likes just to gain popularity.

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Quote from: grendel25 on March 02, 2015, 12:27:35 AM

It's probably already been suggested but in regards to a discussion about this bitcoin forum, it would be cool to have a "like" button per-post rather than replying to a post to simply say I like what you said. I don't think it should be used as any sort of ranking or to serve as a valuable/farmable commodity of how many "likes" any post gets... just mean it as a way to cut down on the unnecessaries.

Yeah. So people won't clutter the thread with "+1" and stuff like that.

+1 btw Grin

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Quote from: SaltySpitoon on March 02, 2015, 01:49:21 AM

The idea has been proposed and shot down in the past, people that get too caught up on whether their posts will be popular or unpopular end up censoring themselves.

Why is that?

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The idea has been proposed and shot down in the past, people that get too caught up on whether their posts will be popular or unpopular end up censoring themselves.

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It would just be a simple mod that I am sure there are hundreds of for SMF boards. I think we should just give it a go for a month as it would be free and I don't see any major harm it could do.

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This has been suggested before here, feel free to continue the discussion

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-we-like-a-post-622992

Also, for future reference this should be in the "new forum software" subforum. Wink

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It's probably already been suggested but in regards to a discussion about this bitcoin forum, it would be cool to have a "like" button per-post rather than replying to a post to simply say I like what you said. I don't think it should be used as any sort of ranking or to serve as a valuable/farmable commodity of how many "likes" any post gets... just mean it as a way to cut down on the unnecessaries.

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