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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on September 24, 2023, 08:56:07 AM

OP made a new transaction with the fee rate of 66.3 sat/vbyte around 4 hours ago and it has been included in the blockchain. 054fd7f3520814d265238d939b9c3ebbfd625ed8aecc53badcb4ee25b61a8ea7

This transaction didn't actually pay OP at all. His friend just consolidated inputs.

The friend then went on to make another transaction paying 122 sats/vbyte, which I presume is paying OP, and OP has then sent that output to what seems to be Binance with a fee of 241 sats/vbyte. Shocked

I would suggest to OP to learn a bit more about bitcoin transactions. In total those transactions paid around 163,000 sats in fees ($40), when the whole thing could have been achieved in two (or even one!) transactions, and paying less than 5% of those fees.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on September 24, 2023, 08:29:08 AM

If you follow what they suggested above deleting the old transaction your friend should be able to remake a new transaction and send it to your address with a higher fee.

OP has already done so.
OP made a new transaction with the fee rate of 66.3 sat/vbyte around 4 hours ago and it has been included in the blockchain. 054fd7f3520814d265238d939b9c3ebbfd625ed8aecc53badcb4ee25b61a8ea7

To OP:
I recommend you to check the mempool every time you want to make a bitcoin transaction.
You made your first transaction with a very low fee and made your second transaction with a very high fee. When you made your transaction, 20 sat/vbyte was enough for getting confirmation in the Next block.

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Quote from: Reza2020838 on September 24, 2023, 04:07:26 AM

If we do this, will the money be returned to the sender?

No, the transaction is already rejected by the node, we can't say it was returned because there is no reversible transaction.

If you follow what they suggested above deleting the old transaction your friend should be able to remake a new transaction and send it to your address with a higher fee.

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Quote from: Reza2020838 on September 24, 2023, 04:07:26 AM

If we do this, will the money be returned to the sender?

The money hasn't left the sender yet. Only confirmed transactions count. This is an unconfirmed low fee transaction.

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Quote from: Reza2020838 on September 24, 2023, 04:07:26 AM

If we do this, will the money be returned to the sender?

Take note that most of nodes don't have that transaction in their mempool at all and it's unlikely that the transaction can be confirmed normally.
So, there's nothing to return to the sender. The sender already has full control over the fund.

If a transaction in electrum is local, it means that it's only displayed on your device and the node you have connected to doesn't have it in its mempool.
With removing the local transaction, you remove that transaction from your wallet, so that you can make a new transaction.

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If we do this, will the money be returned to the sender?

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Quote from: Reza2020838 on September 24, 2023, 03:43:06 AM

Well, what should we do now to solve the problem? Please advise

o_e_l_e_o already explained what you should do very well.

Just right-click on the local transaction in electrum and select "Remove" and after that make a new transaction.

Just take note that when you close and open electrum, it's possible that you connect to a new server which has that transaction in its mempool.
If you see the unconfirmed transaction and its status is not local, right-click on that and select "Increase fee".

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Quote from: Reza2020838 on September 24, 2023, 03:43:06 AM

Well, what should we do now to solve the problem? Please advise

Look up at what o_e_l_e_o (and also TryNinja) have advised (delete transaction, make new one). Imho that should the proper way to go forward, but I have no actual experience in dropping transactions.

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Well, what should we do now to solve the problem? Please advise

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Tx hash 4e0a7d49fec447e02aaebcba7b20b9f41d8 14ec82e9c2892149d4ade8676d2cf

The normal fee today is at least 17-18 sat/vByte (I'd suggest to put even a bit more due to unpredictable batches of transactions pushed now and then).
Your friend has put 3.88 sat/vByte. Do your math.

Even more, most nodes tend to reject tx under 7.38 sat/vByte.

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Quote from: Reza2020838 on September 24, 2023, 01:33:40 AM

On the blockchain site, when we enter the hash, it says that it is pending

Pending as in it sees it and it is unconfirmed, or pending as in it doesn't see it at all and is waiting to hear about it?

If Electrum says it is local, but a blockchain explorer sees it but it is unconfirmed, then it sounds like it has been dropped by some nodes due to the fee being too low. The server your Electrum client is connected to has dropped it, but the blockchain explorer hasn't. Or perhaps the blockchair explorer has also dropped it and doesn't see it at all.

Either way, what I would do is the same: Simply delete the local transaction from Electrum, create a new one with a higher fee, and then broadcast this new transaction. It won't matter if your old transaction is opted in to RBF or not - the Electrum server you are connected to which has already dropped the old one will accept the new one and should have enough connections with other nodes running default limits or running full RBF that it will propagate sufficiently to be mined. If not, then share the TXID here and we can help.

Just have your friend right click on the local transaction in Electrum and select delete. Then make a brand new transaction as they normally would, but with a higher fee. Use the fees box on this page to select a reasonable fee: https://mempool.space/

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Quote from: Reza2020838 on September 24, 2023, 01:33:40 AM

We don't know, can you send me a message on Telegram so I can give you the screen? On the blockchain site, when we enter the hash, it says that it is pending
Telegram: Merikh34

Telegram? People here do not engage there except for business purposes, because they believe it is the den of thieves. How about you just submit your transaction id here if it does has since you say it is pending or better still upload the screenshot here.

But that wallet privacy will definitely be affected, so you actually Pm him on the forum to help but I strongly doubt he will be with you at telegram.

Also be careful because many scammers will be flooding your telegram DM now to say they want to help you do not reveal your seed phrase or private key

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We don't know, can you send me a message on Telegram so I can give you the screen? On the blockchain site, when we enter the hash, it says that it is pending
Telegram: Merikh34

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Since your transaction was first broadcasted then it is clear that it has been dropped by the node or server your friend is connected to because of the low transaction fee, it is possible that it might be broadcast and not all nodes received it. Just try to follow the procedure by TryNinja and simply broadcast a new transaction

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Quote from: Reza2020838 on September 24, 2023, 01:10:23 AM

(This transaction is local to your wallet. It has not been published yet)

This message is self explanatory. The transaction was created, but not sent (or most likely it was dropped from the mempool for not confirming soon enough).

Tell him to right click the "local" transaction and resend it. Or even better, remove the local transaction and send it again with a higher fee. Use mempool.space to get a fee estimation.

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My friend has sent me some bitcoin for three days, but it is suspended, we tried to increase the transaction fee through Electrum Wallet, but it was not possible to increase, please help.
There is no option to increase the fee or cancel the transaction and it gave this error.
(This transaction is local to your wallet. It has not been published yet)

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