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May 12, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
#8
wow the government wants to get there hands on one man for taxes and licenses, this is pethetic this world is coming to.  He should only have to get license if he is selling the fish, that I can understand but fishing for survival is rights and by god it it our right to do so to survive

I fully agree. But the govt wants its taxes.


Solution: Stop living in an oppressive countries.

Some people do:

http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/17/pf/taxes/citizenship-taxes/

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May 12, 2014, 10:30:06 AM
#7
wow the government wants to get there hands on one man for taxes and licenses, this is pethetic this world is coming to.  He should only have to get license if he is selling the fish, that I can understand but fishing for survival is rights and by god it it our right to do so to survive
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May 12, 2014, 10:13:48 AM
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Solution: Stop living in an oppressive countries.
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May 12, 2014, 10:10:55 AM
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Ernie Tertelgte and Eustace Conway are different men, I thought it was the same man, referenced with different names for whatever reason, but anyway - the main principle of freedom remains.

The bird and the fish feat off the land, how are humans different in that regard. When we look at a single man harvesting what he needs to live, how is that different than the act of some animal?

The rules and regulations are imposed by humans, and it's artificial, like most things in this world. Everything really abides by the law of nature, but many people have distanced themselves from it not realizing they're part of it.

Even the most advanced man made structures are reclaimed by nature given enough time. And nature can combat man at any time (earth quakes, floods, vulcanos, tornados, tsunami's etc.)

I've pondered the idea that earth itself might be self adjusting, like the immune system of a living creature fights to keep it alive. So, perhaps, if earth notices it's not in a healthy state, it might create actions that are designed to reclaim the balance.

Eco-systems are in such fine tuned balance, it's quite amazing. I've never looked into the science of it, but could there be an element of truth to this?

What about sicknesses that man is eradicating through vaccines? What purpose did those sicknesses have in terms of the overall picture? I find it hard to believe that those sicknesses are meaningless in a larger perspective. Could it be that it's part of the 'immune-toolbox' of mother earth? That it's used to control the population?

If we looked at earth like a human body, there would always be parasites, viruses and bacteria around, but the immune system would keep it in check, sometimes there's an outbreak of sickness, and then the immune system works on high gear to heal the imbalance and restore health.

Could it be that if serious sicknesses are losing the grip around the world that mother earth will unleash other attacks?

I mean, some major earth quakes in some major cities could make some serious damage, or if the cities are constructed with earth quake safe buildings, what about a tsunami or two?

Not that I condone genocide in any way, but I'm just thinking out loud.

For instance if we look at a 'closed loop' ecosystem on an island, and let's say we have foxes and hamsters there, some year there's a lot of food for the hamsters, and the foxes eat them and multiply enormously. Then the following year there's just too many foxes, and too few hamsters, so a lot of foxes die off because of starvation, then the next year, the hamster population grow in size, because there are fewer foxes hunting them, and the year after that the fox population grows and eats a lot of hamsters, so it's like a cyclic wave effect where everything's self regulating.

So.. could we reach a breaking point where for instance mother earth, or the global ecosystem, or whatever you would call it, just decides, or by intelligent design create incidents that will restore the balance?

Or is there no such inbuilt 'error correction' and we're just going towards complete destruction? We've seen time and time again that what rules this world is money, and to get a lot of money, you need to be extremely cynical, so when everything eventually is destroyed beyond recognition, will the elite build crafts and leave mother earth and colonize other planets?

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May 12, 2014, 08:23:07 AM
#4
We are slaves of technology, most young people are addicted to their phones, computers, need to check their facebook few times a day. 21st century society sux, this man is one of the few who know what is really important in life.

Yep you are totally right, there are very little people that are intact and clever not to plunge into the technology world which actually leads nowhere, "nature people" are probably the happiest on the earth.
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May 12, 2014, 07:55:44 AM
#3
We are slaves of technology, most young people are addicted to their phones, computers, need to check their facebook few times a day. 21st century society sux, this man is one of the few who know what is really important in life.
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May 12, 2014, 07:51:21 AM
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 I am totally agree with this, I'm aware of what his talking about, he's highly intelegent he understant he had decoded things that are logical comun sense that you guys blindess it's stopping everyone to see the reality, there is a say; there's no more blind that the who choose not to see.....we been trained to obey to following orders. You have to aske you all have ask yourself how much or how far are willing to obey and follows the laws...? You will go against your believes, morals and our well being..? I just saying..... Wake up people... you could be next,,, you never know...!
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May 12, 2014, 07:34:13 AM
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Ernie Tertelgte/Ernie Wayne Tertelgte/Eustace Conway Is The Natural Living Man
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The Natural Living Man is a man who livs off what natures gives, grows, harvest, hunt and fish to feed himself and his group. He's a peaceful man who loves traditions and his land.

He apparently has a degree in english and anthropology, and in my view he speaks quite clearly and eloquently, and he really enjoys his work and his lifestyle.

He's been featured on History channel or Discovery/not sure which - but I'm sure anyone could find out if they googled a bit.

He takes in people who would not fit in elsewhere or wants different input in life and give them food and housing if they help him with the work around the property.

And he teaches them blacksmithing, woodcarving etc.

Site: http://www.turtleislandpreserve.com/about

News report, raided for house violations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=squgAr6dQlc

A couple of court appearances:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuy_2Cq8HAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06VzxxDTnB8

Basically, after he was featured on TV, officials saw this and didn't want to have anything of it so to speak, so they needed to inspect, apparently some neigbour complained about something as well, but since there's no neighbours for miles apparently one might wonder if it was the TV fame that caused the complaint (jealousy).

The Natural Man's stance is that he's governed by the Universal Law, or Natural Law if you would have it, and that there's no government allowed to govern him. He says he's free to do what he wants in nature, in terms of fishing, hunting and making crops.

The raids from govt. thugs have apparently been triggered by the wish for ensuring that he's safe and those living there's safe as well, and there's been govt. complaints on the fact that there's no plumbing, electricity and that the houses are not built to housing codes.

And when he was approached by some official guard asking him for a fishing license, he claimed he had none, and did not intend to get one as nature law is what he abides to.

So naturally, he ended up in court, where he basically owns the judge if you want to look at it from a humourou standpoint. But obviously the whole ordeal with the law is taking a toll on him, and apparently he had to shut down his operations for one entire year while issues were sorted out.

More updates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVMxG2HuCcY

Here are my viewpoints:

- I agree with him that man should be free and use natural resources anyway he wishes as long as its done responsibly and for useful purposes.
- I also agree that there should be noone forcing him to act against what he wants to do with his life and time.
- At the same time, the law should be equal for everyone, although we do know that it's not - the rich usually get off easier. So not prosecuting him, at least if acknowledged officially, might not've run well with the public image. Look at that man in the woods that's above the law!
- But if the officials in Montana(?) had been smart, they could've discretely put any complaints about his preserve in the bin, or just sent one official to have a friendly chat with him about what was going on there, and I'm pretty sure it could've been sorted out in a very friendly manner.
- If the natural man was smart and didn't want such disturbances in his life, he's simply just kept a much lower profile, and never surfaced on TV.
- I admire him for standing up for what he really believes in. It's quite apparent that many feel sorry for him and empathize with him. After all, he's doing nothing wrong as far as I can see. So I'd say just let the man be. I remember on TV he said: "I would fight for this land with my life". And I admire that - he's put his sould and heart into this.

Immediately when I saw it, I felt that I wanted to help and/or support him somehow. All he really wants is to go around his business with nobody else bothering him. I guess he should not be given any special treatment, but common.

http://freepatriot.org/2014/01/30/watch-living-natural-man-jailed-30-days-failure-remove-hat/

The Natural Man, Ernie Wayne Tertelgte has been in jailed for contempt of court. At a hearing that was a follow-up to his November 18th hearing, he was supposed to be charged for fishing without a licence.  This time, the judge did not allow cameras in the court room, and there have been only foreign media reports on the outcome. The judge told him to remove his hat and he refused. According to the foreign papers, he was thrown on the ground and handcuffed while in court for failure to remove his hat and is now in jail for 30 days for contempt of court.


Isn't it good that they bring someone fishing miles from where anywhere else lives into a courtroom to make him know he has to bow to his masters? Also it's nice to see what you're force to the ground if you don't remove your hat. We can't have people around that don't abide to the laws the masters have set!
/sarcasm

And then to add insult to story he was jailed for 30 days for contempt of the court. Well, he's a stubborn son of a bitch, but he's not a dangerous or bad person. He just wants to go about his daily business living his life, far away from most people.




For those unfamiliar with the notion of the natural man, the law of 1871, and other matters, Ernie Wayne Tertelgte gave a presentation a year ago that is packed full of information. It begins with the hierarchy of man using the Bible and the Declaration of Independence.  It is a three-hour video, but a far more valuable discussion than watching regular television.

Some more vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IGxH3IKedM

Here he has a 3 hour talk about 'the enemy within':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsNCWCQ-cLw

I'm a fan of this man now. I'm not a fan of govt officials who makes his life hard.
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