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Quote from: Darkuso on May 30, 2020, 08:41:08 PM

We are now seeing the ICOs of the new decade, it's no longer self-made projects grab money from investors to then let them fail and close shop, now we have big money getting involved, the banks, and governments trying to get their piece of the cake.

That is BloxRoute (to name one) looks like to me, a new project launched for a private company to do that same that they've always, but now with blockchain, the problem is that they will have full control (in time), so what is the point of using them instead of a regular private network? They aren't trying to solve the economic problems and the vulnerabilities in the blockchain tech, their "solution" is only something momentary, and it only serves THEIR needs.

Banks must be eager as well to jump in and use their reputation to keep using their customer money as theirs.

All available fundraising strategies still involves money grabbers, I don't know where you see ICOs of new decades, there is no such thing, the only fundraising strategy that works is IEO and still scammers use it to scam investors till today

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One of the clear difference between ICO and IEO is that in IEO, investors are given the opportunity to make their decisions (holding or selling) while in the case of ICO they aren't given such opportunities, therefore, since this is the case, this possibility from IEO will always make IEO a better fundraising option for investors. Thus, I don't care about the type of institutional investors coming to do any ICO because once they have gotten that funds they seek, their true colour will showcase, hence I rather take my chances with IEO on good exchanges where one is assured of funds security, listing after IEO and so forth.

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Quote from: NS-Soul on May 31, 2020, 06:31:29 PM

Still exist the Initial Coin Offering but I don't think if it will be a profitable again like before because we have IEO now which is very indemand specially if they run on exchange that was very popular like binance and okex they will invest on it.

It's better for you to visit cryptorank.io and then you can try to see the chart that has already published by cryptorank. I thought that you will be seeing a lot of icos that successfully ended and these icos brought a lot of profit for investors. I just try to tell you about the actual data that's more reliable.

indeed the website can provide good information about various types of cryptocurrency that can help to invest in a cryptocurrency, besides that sometimes when looking at a successful ico can not provide price guarantees because price movements will never be known.

price does not really matter as long as the ico became succesful and investor can expect a return for thier money , also the workers can expect being paid off . thats what more important . the rest is on the hodlers move if what strat he will be using to earn more with his coins . i see op shows a new kind of ico where governments are banks are now involved . that is new to my ears because usually ico are independent . i said its good because this can now limit scams

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Quote from: NS-Soul on May 31, 2020, 06:31:29 PM

Still exist the Initial Coin Offering but I don't think if it will be a profitable again like before because we have IEO now which is very indemand specially if they run on exchange that was very popular like binance and okex they will invest on it.

It's better for you to visit cryptorank.io and then you can try to see the chart that has already published by cryptorank. I thought that you will be seeing a lot of icos that successfully ended and these icos brought a lot of profit for investors. I just try to tell you about the actual data that's more reliable.

indeed the website can provide good information about various types of cryptocurrency that can help to invest in a cryptocurrency, besides that sometimes when looking at a successful ico can not provide price guarantees because price movements will never be known.

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The ICO will transform into a new name following the new trend that happens to the market, but the idea still is the same as the old fashion way. They will use the new way to attract the investor and participant to join with the projects, and that can be the new way too for the scammers to do the same things as the real projects. But seems, that new looking ICO is not getting popular because the market still at the progress to back to the normal or increase so high, and maybe we will see something this year or next year.

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Quote from: NS-Soul on May 31, 2020, 06:31:29 PM

Still exist the Initial Coin Offering but I don't think if it will be a profitable again like before because we have IEO now which is very indemand specially if they run on exchange that was very popular like binance and okex they will invest on it.

It's better for you to visit cryptorank.io and then you can try to see the chart that has already published by cryptorank. I thought that you will be seeing a lot of icos that successfully ended and these icos brought a lot of profit for investors. I just try to tell you about the actual data that's more reliable.

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Quote from: Python Master on June 01, 2020, 10:21:32 PM

There is not any banks or governments join ICOs market. You may offer wrong information. Now investors are not interesting in ICO because there a new form of ICO which is more potential for profit, it is IEOs.

That's right, banks and governments don't like cryptocurrencies. So they will never hold an ICO or an IEO ... If so, they are just scam projects and we need to stay away from them. IEO is also an option similar to ICO, if you participate in IEO of small exchanges, you will lose money in the same way.

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There is not any banks or governments join ICOs market. You may offer wrong information. Now investors are not interesting in ICO because there a new form of ICO which is more potential for profit, it is IEOs.

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Quote from: Darkuso on May 31, 2020, 09:55:20 PM

Quote from: electronicash on May 31, 2020, 11:35:58 AM

there could be few that will be successful so Solana and bloXroute are just example.

if the project is backed by big companies, it would still work but i don't think it will still be a common thing right now. the investors in the past 3 years are fed up of the scam and if we see more ICO today that looks scammy, we'd all just keep destroying the blockchains reputation. teams today are even careful for one mistake can ruin everything that the team had been working on.

Truly hope that is true, that this isn't a new trend, because in my mind I can even see JP Morgan trying to launch their own maybe the next year, so with their reputation they can attract a lot of people, but at the same time keep doing what they have been doing until now, I don't see them doing something decentralized, it will be the old players doing the same with the new toy. And also I completely agree that with every failure, the blockchain reputation is getting a bit undermined.

Only some projects were understand what means of decentralize while at the same time so many incompetence developer sold the word of decentralized to attract the demand.
So many parties have stated that they were interesting with blockchain but it's not for crypto, is that mean the reputation of blockchain destroyed?

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Quote from: Inosend on June 01, 2020, 12:13:33 PM

Now a days it's very difficult to figure out aehut project to invest in, couple of days back I decided to make a little research so I compile a list of about 70 up coming projects to be sincere am still working on them once am done I will drop my recommendation here.

I know one, have been working with them for over a year, they are really trying to fix the current problems in the blockchain tech that we can see in POW, POS, and DPOS; and not only in the tech side but also knowing/working in the economic side of the problems. It's not only another project without any real-life use, this is already running and being used but also fixing the problems that show up in the way.

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Now a days it's very difficult to figure out aehut project to invest in, couple of days back I decided to make a little research so I compile a list of about 70 up coming projects to be sincere am still working on them once am done I will drop my recommendation here.

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Quote from: NS-Soul on May 31, 2020, 06:31:29 PM

Still exist the Initial Coin Offering but I don't think if it will be a profitable again like before because we have IEO now which is very indemand specially if they run on exchange that was very popular like binance and okex they will invest on it.

At the moment, investors will never be interested in ICOs because it is not profitable for them. They only focus on IEO at large exchanges to look for hope to profit from it

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Quote from: NS-Soul on May 31, 2020, 06:31:29 PM

Still exist the Initial Coin Offering but I don't think if it will be a profitable again like before because we have IEO now which is very indemand specially if they run on exchange that was very popular like binance and okex they will invest on it.

As long as both were running by the trusted team, a good idea and both have a useful product, ICO and IEO will be successful. We have seen so many scam or failed ICO or IEO caused by these projects are incompetence to run the project to be a successful project.

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ICO is now hard to believe even though there are still a number of projects that are still conducting ICO. IEO is an alternative for investors to invest in new projects and in my opinion even this is only speculation. In my opinion, it is best to invest in coins or tokens that have been listed on exchangers and have a large marketcap value

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Quote from: electronicash on May 31, 2020, 11:35:58 AM

there could be few that will be successful so Solana and bloXroute are just example.

if the project is backed by big companies, it would still work but i don't think it will still be a common thing right now. the investors in the past 3 years are fed up of the scam and if we see more ICO today that looks scammy, we'd all just keep destroying the blockchains reputation. teams today are even careful for one mistake can ruin everything that the team had been working on.

Truly hope that is true, that this isn't a new trend, because in my mind I can even see JP Morgan trying to launch their own maybe the next year, so with their reputation they can attract a lot of people, but at the same time keep doing what they have been doing until now, I don't see them doing something decentralized, it will be the old players doing the same with the new toy. And also I completely agree that with every failure, the blockchain reputation is getting a bit undermined.

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Still exist the Initial Coin Offering but I don't think if it will be a profitable again like before because we have IEO now which is very indemand specially if they run on exchange that was very popular like binance and okex they will invest on it.

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Quote from: Squezzi55 on May 31, 2020, 12:41:08 PM

Quote from: Darkuso on May 30, 2020, 08:41:08 PM

We are now seeing the ICOs of the new decade, it's no longer self-made projects grab money from investors to then let them fail and close shop, now we have big money getting involved, the banks, and governments trying to get their piece of the cake.

That is BloxRoute (to name one) looks like to me, a new project launched for a private company to do that same that they've always, but now with blockchain, the problem is that they will have full control (in time), so what is the point of using them instead of a regular private network? They aren't trying to solve the economic problems and the vulnerabilities in the blockchain tech, their "solution" is only something momentary, and it only serves THEIR needs.

Banks must be eager as well to jump in and use their reputation to keep using their customer money as theirs.

You have a point, it's one reason why I will stay away from anything centralized, government can't help and even if they find their ways into blockchain technology they will only take control and reap people off, decentralized is the answer to everything, even if Central bank released their own coin I don't see any reason to use yet, as for me I don't want anything to do with the government

Exactly, there is no point in using something that someone else has the rights over it, not now that we have a choice, the reason why people started using fiat was that was easier and safer to transport (among another reason) than gold and silver, but we gave the bank and the government way to much power over us, and they can abuse and do everything they want with our money now, but no bank will face financial problems with the shit hit the fan, and the government can keep printing their useless paper as is there is no tomorrow. There is no point in using a centralized blockchain or anything actually.

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I know initial coin offering still exist, I've came across more than one project using ICO to still raise fund, actually this is crazy, any project that plans to raise fund using ICO style will take time to make reasonable amount of money, people don't trust ICO anymore, forget ICO..

Crypto regulations have no room in crypto space, regulations can work on few centralized projects like XRP but 90% on coins I knew are decentralized, coins like Ripple, tether and Centralized exchanges are still vunerable to regulations, this is the way I see it

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Quote from: Darkuso on May 30, 2020, 08:41:08 PM

We are now seeing the ICOs of the new decade, it's no longer self-made projects grab money from investors to then let them fail and close shop, now we have big money getting involved, the banks, and governments trying to get their piece of the cake.

That is BloxRoute (to name one) looks like to me, a new project launched for a private company to do that same that they've always, but now with blockchain, the problem is that they will have full control (in time), so what is the point of using them instead of a regular private network? They aren't trying to solve the economic problems and the vulnerabilities in the blockchain tech, their "solution" is only something momentary, and it only serves THEIR needs.

Banks must be eager as well to jump in and use their reputation to keep using their customer money as theirs.

You have a point, it's one reason why I will stay away from anything centralized, government can't help and even if they find their ways into blockchain technology they will only take control and reap people off, decentralized is the answer to everything, even if Central bank released their own coin I don't see any reason to use yet, as for me I don't want anything to do with the government

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If big companies and governments started involving into ICO industry, then we can expect them to be operating under regulations. That was the very good development and we must welcome it. I'm not sure governments will be interested in conducting ICO and that too on this forum. Because government may plan up anything for fundraising and definitely they may not plan up depending on this community.

At the same time we can expect corporate to come up here for the purpose of having ICOs. Because, they cannot build a community like this in short-term but they can easily analyse the potential of this community and when they are foreseeing possibilities of making use of this community, definitely they will conduct ICOs here. When they are coming up with regulation, definitely this community also will be interested on their ICOs.

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there could be few that will be successful so Solana and bloXroute are just example.

if the project is backed by big companies, it would still work but i don't think it will still be a common thing right now. the investors in the past 3 years are fed up of the scam and if we see more ICO today that looks scammy, we'd all just keep destroying the blockchains reputation. teams today are even careful for one mistake can ruin everything that the team had been working on.

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First I don't think ICOs will have any other impact in the world, that is, I don't think they will be given attention again. Secondly, blockchain and the crypto space has grown to a big extent such that many organisations and so on are getting fully involved, now while some are after the tech others are after the money in it. My own advice is that everyone should be careful of every project, looking beyond the hype it carries and so on, so that the right decision can be made.

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Quote from: witbla on May 31, 2020, 10:45:13 AM

The one I would probably recommend you to have a look at is Brandtokens.io. Basically, with the platform you can basically tokenize your brand and reward your customers, so Brand Tokens is an all in one platform to manage all your brand token needs. Issue your own blockchain-based loyalty ERC20 token. List it on the exchange. Easily integrate tokens into your services. Reward your clients with tokens and give them perks in exchange. Check out their website to explore more

This sounds fascinating from your words, will have a closer look

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Quote from: hwteeer on May 31, 2020, 10:44:33 AM

This is the right notice, I am having pretty similar approach. But do you have any solutions that meet your requirements now? Any you can recommend?

The one I would probably recommend you to have a look at is Brandtokens.io. Basically, with the platform you can basically tokenize your brand and reward your customers, so Brand Tokens is an all in one platform to manage all your brand token needs. Issue your own blockchain-based loyalty ERC20 token. List it on the exchange. Easily integrate tokens into your services. Reward your clients with tokens and give them perks in exchange. Check out their website to explore more

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Quote from: witbla on May 31, 2020, 10:44:04 AM

Good afternoon everyone. What I have noticed, much basically depends on standards solution brings. Talking about me, I am always looking for solutions that are coming with value for token holders and users

This is the right notice, I am having pretty similar approach. But do you have any solutions that meet your requirements now? Any you can recommend?

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Good afternoon everyone. What I have noticed, much basically depends on standards solution brings. Talking about me, I am always looking for solutions that are coming with value for token holders and users

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Quote from: Kaliecious on May 31, 2020, 08:32:19 AM

Are you sure ICO can still be used now? after 3 years ago the dark history of ICOs that hurt many investors because the project developers ran away with money and prices destroyed after entering the market.

ICOs are bullshit now, there hasn't been any really good ICOs since 2018. Most of them just want to scam investor money and disappear soon, IEO will be the best option to invest in current time

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Are you sure ICO can still be used now? after 3 years ago the dark history of ICOs that hurt many investors because the project developers ran away with money and prices destroyed after entering the market.

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I thought ICO is already dead, I haven't seen a successful ICO recently and as long as the IEO continues to be popular, I guess people will fully migrate to this way of crowdsale investing. I am not familiar with "BloxRoute ", but what a project usually say and promise is not easily seen in actual practice as most of them failed.

according to this post - https://medium.com/bloxroute/bloxroute-raises-10m-to-date-to-solve-the-blockchain-scalability-bottleneck-eb9ce254dfd2

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bloXroute raises $10M to date to solve the blockchain scalability bottleneck

let see if they'll suceed, a lot of ICO projects that raised even more than that but until now they failed to show some good progress.

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Blockchain crypto transaction is an evolving technology so its not a surprising move that banks are trying to create their own coins or tokens on their own servers but as you said this is not for the investors its for their customers so they will keep their money in that banks.It maybe a new kind of ICO but I don't think it will be a successful one.

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Quote from: alkuluku on May 30, 2020, 11:37:55 PM

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Quote from: BillGoldberg on May 30, 2020, 10:04:59 PM

Are there still ICO's? The crypto community doesn't trust the ICO industry anymore, especially with how it damaged the market 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't heard about the project that you mentioned but its quite interesting. Blockchain is indeed the future and many big industries are not yet looking at it as a "solution" to their issue.

Existing major enterprise solutions are neither distributed (Hyperledger + Corda) nor have a focus on privacy. There is little to no progress here and these solutions are essentially just glorified databases. An example too is Concordium which has not done an ICO, the technology is real, and the business development is massive, with companies like Nestle, Volve, and Geely lined up.

There are still icos and did you know Solana?

I have been joining as a tester for the testnet that launched by concordium and so far this is really worth to buy.

concordium has been backed by so many big name too. I have been watching this project since someone tell me about peter klein has become an advisor for this project.

Cant find much information about Solana, Can you please link me to it.
Thanks.

Really ? Their project has been listed at Binance and has received a lot of hype over the past few months. You know shitcoin but not the leading projects in this market, it makes me a bit confused.

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Quote from: asriloni on May 30, 2020, 10:14:36 PM

Quote from: BillGoldberg on May 30, 2020, 10:04:59 PM

Are there still ICO's? The crypto community doesn't trust the ICO industry anymore, especially with how it damaged the market 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't heard about the project that you mentioned but its quite interesting. Blockchain is indeed the future and many big industries are not yet looking at it as a "solution" to their issue.

Existing major enterprise solutions are neither distributed (Hyperledger + Corda) nor have a focus on privacy. There is little to no progress here and these solutions are essentially just glorified databases. An example too is Concordium which has not done an ICO, the technology is real, and the business development is massive, with companies like Nestle, Volve, and Geely lined up.

There are still icos and did you know Solana?

I have been joining as a tester for the testnet that launched by concordium and so far this is really worth to buy.

concordium has been backed by so many big name too. I have been watching this project since someone tell me about peter klein has become an advisor for this project.

Cant find much information about Solana, Can you please link me to it.
Thanks.

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Quote from: BillGoldberg on May 30, 2020, 10:04:59 PM

Are there still ICO's? The crypto community doesn't trust the ICO industry anymore, especially with how it damaged the market 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't heard about the project that you mentioned but its quite interesting. Blockchain is indeed the future and many big industries are not yet looking at it as a "solution" to their issue.

Existing major enterprise solutions are neither distributed (Hyperledger + Corda) nor have a focus on privacy. There is little to no progress here and these solutions are essentially just glorified databases. An example too is Concordium which has not done an ICO, the technology is real, and the business development is massive, with companies like Nestle, Volve, and Geely lined up.

There are still icos and did you know Solana?

I have been joining as a tester for the testnet that launched by concordium and so far this is really worth to buy.

concordium has been backed by so many big name too. I have been watching this project since someone tell me about peter klein has become an advisor for this project.

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Are there still ICO's? The crypto community doesn't trust the ICO industry anymore, especially with how it damaged the market 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't heard about the project that you mentioned but its quite interesting. Blockchain is indeed the future and many big industries are not yet looking at it as a "solution" to their issue.

Existing major enterprise solutions are neither distributed (Hyperledger + Corda) nor have a focus on privacy. There is little to no progress here and these solutions are essentially just glorified databases. An example too is Concordium which has not done an ICO, the technology is real, and the business development is massive, with companies like Nestle, Volve, and Geely lined up.

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I think it's more about the financial establishment recognizing how much of a threat cryptos are to their status quo and joining in because they know they can't defeat them.

I don't like this trend of companies/governments dumping money to try and get into this space and control it one bit, since as you said, what's even the point of it if it's going to be yet another centralized "service". What a fucking joke.

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We are now seeing the ICOs of the new decade, it's no longer self-made projects grab money from investors to then let them fail and close shop, now we have big money getting involved, the banks, and governments trying to get their piece of the cake.

That is BloxRoute (to name one) looks like to me, a new project launched for a private company to do that same that they've always, but now with blockchain, the problem is that they will have full control (in time), so what is the point of using them instead of a regular private network? They aren't trying to solve the economic problems and the vulnerabilities in the blockchain tech, their "solution" is only something momentary, and it only serves THEIR needs.

Banks must be eager as well to jump in and use their reputation to keep using their customer money as theirs.

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