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Topic: The new TREZOR Bridge (Read 255 times)

legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1252
March 10, 2018, 10:23:08 AM
#11
I trust hardware wallets less and less. They keep overcomplicating things. Now they added some screen in there and complexity always brings up more exploits, which is why ideally you want things to not even have a GUI.

I predict that sooner or later we are going to see some fatal flaw in one of these devices. I will stick to good old rustic linux laptop.

Hardware wallets are still the safest solution. However, I agree that simplicity is the key and any additional layer of complexity may also introduce potential issues.


It depends on the scenario. If you want to say, cross a border, and you need to pick a plane, go to the airport, cross the security scans and so on, what's going to be safer, some generic looking USB, or some device which in 10 years will be known by anyone in the world to be holding potentially millions worth of bitcoin? im pretty sure what the correct answer is.

Same goes for if thieves break into your house.

You not only want to keep your stuff safe from scammers, but you want to have it invisible too. Hardware wallets stand out too much with their (increasingly) fancy designs.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
March 09, 2018, 05:45:04 PM
#10
I trust hardware wallets less and less. They keep overcomplicating things. Now they added some screen in there and complexity always brings up more exploits, which is why ideally you want things to not even have a GUI.

I predict that sooner or later we are going to see some fatal flaw in one of these devices. I will stick to good old rustic linux laptop.

Yup. I'm feeling you. I've got both. My Ledger will force an update for an as yet undisclosed flaw the next time I use it. Then there's this but in general I find Trezor nicer to use and more open.

Regardless I'm thinking of returning to paper for good.
newbie
Activity: 278
Merit: 0
March 09, 2018, 03:31:33 PM
#9
I trust hardware wallets less and less. They keep overcomplicating things. Now they added some screen in there and complexity always brings up more exploits, which is why ideally you want things to not even have a GUI.

I predict that sooner or later we are going to see some fatal flaw in one of these devices. I will stick to good old rustic linux laptop.

Hardware wallets are still the safest solution. However, I agree that simplicity is the key and any additional layer of complexity may also introduce potential issues.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1252
March 09, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
#8
I trust hardware wallets less and less. They keep overcomplicating things. Now they added some screen in there and complexity always brings up more exploits, which is why ideally you want things to not even have a GUI.

I predict that sooner or later we are going to see some fatal flaw in one of these devices. I will stick to good old rustic linux laptop.

There is no perfect solution. Someone will eventually discover a bug in the code of your operating system which could be harmful. How does touchscreen in the latest TREZOR device is easier to exploit? I'm not a specialist so that's why I wanted to ask you this question. If you find new hardware wallets too complex, you can still buy older models because they are still manufactured or available in someone's warehouse.

Well for starters, these devices are becoming increasingly more and more discernible from other devices, they stand out a lot. The original Trezor kind of looked like some remote keyless system for certain cars.. this new one is just saying "there are Bitcoins inside this device". What's the point? It's much safer to carry your keys in some generic looking device. Anything from an USB, DVD, Linux laptop.. in my opinion is safer than carrying one of these devices which will be increasingly known for carrying potential millions worth. Not a good idea. Never was, never will be. Use generic stuff, ideally cheaper stuff. Don't be showing off with your expensive Bitcoin toys. This is just my opinion.

And generally, the more complex a device, the more exploits, and they are getting more complex over time. If these devices only accepted Bitcoin, maybe I could take them seriously, but since they started adding all these shitcoins, im just done with the idea of buying one. Im not saying they are unsafe, I just all things considered, think it's a worse option than a general purpose Linux laptop, and USB to move coins physically if you don't want to carry a laptop.
jr. member
Activity: 52
Merit: 2
March 09, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
#7
This maybe a noob question but cam someone tell me where the master seeds recorded?? Is there any specific server or where the master seed is coming once we keep it in our storage and i want to recover my funds i got my seed but where or who alse have my seed?Huh??

legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
March 09, 2018, 11:13:29 AM
#6
I trust hardware wallets less and less. They keep overcomplicating things. Now they added some screen in there and complexity always brings up more exploits, which is why ideally you want things to not even have a GUI.

I predict that sooner or later we are going to see some fatal flaw in one of these devices. I will stick to good old rustic linux laptop.

I have to agree with you on this. The more bells and whistles they add, the more chance there is for someone to find some

kind of exploit. Yes, I understand the move away from Chrome extensions, because you want to be in control of your

code and the direction the project is going in, but this makes the user more reliant on your software. Will most of these

companies still be around in 50 years from now?   Roll Eyes
member
Activity: 238
Merit: 38
March 08, 2018, 05:08:11 PM
#5
I trust hardware wallets less and less. They keep overcomplicating things. Now they added some screen in there and complexity always brings up more exploits, which is why ideally you want things to not even have a GUI.

I predict that sooner or later we are going to see some fatal flaw in one of these devices. I will stick to good old rustic linux laptop.

Thing is that whenever you look how to store your crypto safe people will tell you buy a hardware wallet. And honestly it is just business for companies that make hardware wallets. Plus people want to be safe without needed to learn a lot. But when you think about it these are all key pairs and nothing else. Mostly what I do is have live USB for linux you can connect it to the internet to grab the available inputs and simply close connection and make transaction offline then put it onto another usb to broadcast later on. Some people might think this is to much but actually it is pretty safe method.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 3139
March 08, 2018, 01:52:19 PM
#4
I trust hardware wallets less and less. They keep overcomplicating things. Now they added some screen in there and complexity always brings up more exploits, which is why ideally you want things to not even have a GUI.

I predict that sooner or later we are going to see some fatal flaw in one of these devices. I will stick to good old rustic linux laptop.

There is no perfect solution. Someone will eventually discover a bug in the code of your operating system which could be harmful. How does touchscreen in the latest TREZOR device is easier to exploit? I'm not a specialist so that's why I wanted to ask you this question. If you find new hardware wallets too complex, you can still buy older models because they are still manufactured or available in someone's warehouse.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1252
March 08, 2018, 01:33:21 PM
#3
I trust hardware wallets less and less. They keep overcomplicating things. Now they added some screen in there and complexity always brings up more exploits, which is why ideally you want things to not even have a GUI.

I predict that sooner or later we are going to see some fatal flaw in one of these devices. I will stick to good old rustic linux laptop.
member
Activity: 574
Merit: 12
March 07, 2018, 05:07:51 PM
#2
Update: March 6th, 2018

This is the second phase of our transition away from Chrome apps. 
Updates are recommended for all TREZOR users. To install the new Bridge, please visit the Wallet.

If you are currently using TREZOR Chrome extension, you do not need to do anything yet. You may choose to delete the extension and let the Wallet install the new Bridge if you want to be ready for the later parts of the transition.

If you are currently using the old TREZOR Bridge, please update the application via Wallet.

If you are a new user, the Wallet will ask you to install the new TREZOR Bridge.

If you are using TREZOR Connect apps, like MyEtherWallet, MyCrypto or NEM NanoWallet, please update and install the new TREZOR Bridge. Otherwise, your TREZOR won’t be able to communicate with these applications.

If you do not know what to do, please follow the update instructions in the TREZOR Wallet.

Similarly to the old Bridge, the new TREZOR Bridge works with Google Chrome (and its various versions, such as Chromium) and Firefox.

What will happen to the TREZOR Chrome extension?

In the following weeks, we will start the next phase of the transition. From the subsequent releases of TREZOR Wallet, the Chrome extension will no longer be provided. It will remain functional for those who have installed it before, but the TREZOR Wallet will prompt you to install the new TREZOR Bridge.





I now tried to enter my trezor and could not. I downloaded a new trezor bridge and it all worked fine again. At first I thought that my hardware wallet broke)
jr. member
Activity: 52
Merit: 2
March 06, 2018, 09:00:33 PM
#1
Update: March 6th, 2018

This is the second phase of our transition away from Chrome apps. 
Updates are recommended for all TREZOR users. To install the new Bridge, please visit the Wallet.

If you are currently using TREZOR Chrome extension, you do not need to do anything yet. You may choose to delete the extension and let the Wallet install the new Bridge if you want to be ready for the later parts of the transition.

If you are currently using the old TREZOR Bridge, please update the application via Wallet.

If you are a new user, the Wallet will ask you to install the new TREZOR Bridge.

If you are using TREZOR Connect apps, like MyEtherWallet, MyCrypto or NEM NanoWallet, please update and install the new TREZOR Bridge. Otherwise, your TREZOR won’t be able to communicate with these applications.

If you do not know what to do, please follow the update instructions in the TREZOR Wallet.

Similarly to the old Bridge, the new TREZOR Bridge works with Google Chrome (and its various versions, such as Chromium) and Firefox.

What will happen to the TREZOR Chrome extension?

In the following weeks, we will start the next phase of the transition. From the subsequent releases of TREZOR Wallet, the Chrome extension will no longer be provided. It will remain functional for those who have installed it before, but the TREZOR Wallet will prompt you to install the new TREZOR Bridge.




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