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July 20, 2022, 06:12:29 AM
#66
Well, not everyone wants to sell as soon as the market goes through a major shift. Many people hold until the market recovers a little before they make their moves. I don’t think the market will dip compared to the previous years. It is still bearable.
That is also what I think but, we can't assure that everything went okay and no longer a huge drop to come after this short break. The price went a little bit high giving some chance to sell which is it become uncertain if this uptrend momentum will stay longer or just another drop taken again.

For now, we haven't a clear vision of what it happen next but I was predicting for the price it never goes far away from $20k, might just it go around from $20k- $25k.
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July 20, 2022, 05:00:54 AM
#65

Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of holders.
The number of holders not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.
I think it is a little too soon to be talking about this since the bear market is not over, we can talk with certainty about what happened during 2018 and beyond since that bear market is over.
But in this case, the bear market is still ongoing so there is a possibility that many people that are still holding their coins today get desperate and sell their coins if the price of bitcoin keeps going down and it shows no possibility of recovering during the short term.

People already know how to take advantage of the bearish market so most investors nowadays are accumulating and holding more Bitcoin since the price is still cheap. Lots of investors are holding while waiting for the market situation to get better and for the price to recover so the number of holders isn't questionable.
For those who have been observing the movement of BTC for a long time and who believe in BTC, neither bearish nor bullish can change their mind. Rather, they interpret bearish markets as an opportunity. In a bull market there is a possibility that the market can fall down anytime. Similarly, the opposite happens at bearish Market. So consider this bearish market as a way to change your fortunes. Hold on according to your ability.
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July 20, 2022, 01:45:49 AM
#64
Well, not everyone wants to sell as soon as the market goes through a major shift. Many people hold until the market recovers a little before they make their moves. I don’t think the market will dip compared to the previous years. It is still bearable.
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July 17, 2022, 06:42:27 PM
#63

those are crypto users who have strong belief that bitcoin has good future. most of them i believe, have seen the countless up and down movements of btc throughout the years. so for them, this period is one of the good opportunities to accumulate more before it goes up again. this is the good thing in this market, we all have our freedom how to put our game plan in order to improve out portfolio.
It is vital for us to learn to ignore these dumps and consider holding and buying more. Real investors won't just look at the daily market changes as it is really a big factor that could their minds but what they do is focus on the long-term possible reach of the market believing that it grow further. In fact, as we can see institutional investors and whales are still accumulating more potential coins as they are sure about the future of the market.

We are in fact so thankful that many people had learned to hold despite the situation as this even help not to worsen the market drop.
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July 17, 2022, 04:56:47 PM
#62

Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of holders.

The number of holders not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

I think it is a little too soon to be talking about this since the bear market is not over, we can talk with certainty about what happened during 2018 and beyond since that bear market is over.

But in this case, the bear market is still ongoing so there is a possibility that many people that are still holding their coins today get desperate and sell their coins if the price of bitcoin keeps going down and it shows no possibility of recovering during the short term.

People already know how to take advantage of the bearish market so most investors nowadays are accumulating and holding more Bitcoin since the price is still cheap. Lots of investors are holding while waiting for the market situation to get better and for the price to recover so the number of holders isn't questionable.

those are crypto users who have strong belief that bitcoin has good future. most of them i believe, have seen the countless up and down movements of btc throughout the years. so for them, this period is one of the good opportunities to accumulate more before it goes up again. this is the good thing in this market, we all have our freedom how to put our game plan in order to improve out portfolio.
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July 17, 2022, 04:36:27 PM
#61
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.
The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.
How do you know if more people prefer to hold in the current bearish market? It is according to your own research or you get the information from a certain source? Please share the source link if it is not your own research.

It is actually not really surprising if more holders not selling their coins during the current bearish because they already know well how bearish-bullish works. They know bearish won't last forever, and they know if the next bullish probably happens after the next halving. It can be learned from the previous bearish-bullish. I think it indicates that holders become smarter and braver.

https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/2022-crypto-bear-market-worst-in-history-report-11656317619942.html
https://cointelegraph.com/news/a-brief-history-of-bitcoin-crashes-and-bear-markets-2009-2022

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July 17, 2022, 04:14:45 PM
#60
Buying and holding of cryptocurrency this turnaround is the best time and the best opportunity to buy cryptocurrency and hold it because the way I am seeing cryptocurrency it is increasing in the market and if you happened to reach next year 2024 and the 2025 2023 which is the first year after 2022 cryptocurrency will change colour and the prize will be well-known and people who want it will be a beneficiary to eat
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July 17, 2022, 03:48:36 PM
#59
In a bearish market my number one priority is holding long. When I’m looking at new investments, I always try and bet on winners that I really believe in on a long enough time horizon. The reason I do this is because even if the market collapses, I know that my investment is safe if I can just wait out the negative conditions.

Personally, at the moment  I’m heavily invested in BTC and there is no way I would consider selling. I believe in the technology and I understand the value but it may take a while for the price to reflect that.

I do something similar like you.I mine Bitcoin,work for Bitcoin in a couple of websites and also earn some from the signature campaign.I hold 50% of my earned amount in total and the other 50% I like to invest some of it and about 10-15% I gamble in trying to hit that life changing event jackpot.I have great self control,I was once addicted but it is a thing of the past.By hodling the majority of our coins we are being ready for any type of inflation,here where I live the inflation in reality is like near 33% from that 8.6% the government shows and having Bitcoin for such situation has been my insurance against this situation.That is why it is always good and advisable to hodl as much Bitcoin as you possibly can.
Having a high inflation on our society right now has affected a lot of people and having an insurance in case things go south would be the best bet. It's great to hear that you are having so much hustle on maximizing your earnings on bitcoin via multiple workloads and passive income such as mining. I am correct to assume that you also have a job for your financial expenses aside from bitcoin as you've been holding most of your bitcoin as insurance.

By the way, I have been saving and accumulating more and more bitcoins as much as possible through trading, signature campaign as well as buying more with my extra income as I can see a high possibility of bitcoin bouncing back anytime soon.
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July 17, 2022, 03:38:32 PM
#58
In a bearish market my number one priority is holding long. When I’m looking at new investments, I always try and bet on winners that I really believe in on a long enough time horizon. The reason I do this is because even if the market collapses, I know that my investment is safe if I can just wait out the negative conditions.

Personally, at the moment  I’m heavily invested in BTC and there is no way I would consider selling. I believe in the technology and I understand the value but it may take a while for the price to reflect that.

I do something similar like you.I mine Bitcoin,work for Bitcoin in a couple of websites and also earn some from the signature campaign.I hold 50% of my earned amount in total and the other 50% I like to invest some of it and about 10-15% I gamble in trying to hit that life changing event jackpot.I have great self control,I was once addicted but it is a thing of the past.By hodling the majority of our coins we are being ready for any type of inflation,here where I live the inflation in reality is like near 33% from that 8.6% the government shows and having Bitcoin for such situation has been my insurance against this situation.That is why it is always good and advisable to hodl as much Bitcoin as you possibly can.
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July 17, 2022, 12:43:13 PM
#57

Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of holders.

The number of holders not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

I think it is a little too soon to be talking about this since the bear market is not over, we can talk with certainty about what happened during 2018 and beyond since that bear market is over.

But in this case, the bear market is still ongoing so there is a possibility that many people that are still holding their coins today get desperate and sell their coins if the price of bitcoin keeps going down and it shows no possibility of recovering during the short term.

People already know how to take advantage of the bearish market so most investors nowadays are accumulating and holding more Bitcoin since the price is still cheap. Lots of investors are holding while waiting for the market situation to get better and for the price to recover so the number of holders isn't questionable.
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July 17, 2022, 04:23:28 AM
#56
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

I think it is a little too soon to be talking about this since the bear market is not over, we can talk with certainty about what happened during 2018 and beyond since that bear market is over.

But in this case the bear market is still ongoing so there is a possibility that many people that are still holding their coins today get desperate and sell their coins if the price of bitcoin keeps going down and it shows no possibility of recovering during the short term.
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July 17, 2022, 03:53:04 AM
#55
Have not sold my stash now and only holding at the moment some coins I have bought back not a significant amount but still trying to accumulate more with whatever amount I can at these dips.But at this time only holding my coins for long term and maybe will sell some of it once it cross $50k or so but long term holding is option for me.
There are currently few people who have the courage like you who continue to buy bitcoin in installments in this decline, I appreciate what you are doing. And I say your decision is right when you invest in the long term, because I also believe that in the future bitcoin will be able to return to the price we want. May success be with you.
Surely bitcoin will rise again once the bear cycle is over. I hope you not only should not sell your bitcoins but try to accumulate as much bitcoin as you can because bear season won't wait for us. Once the bear season ends the bull season, we will no longer have the opportunity to buy bitcoin at a high discount price like today.

I don't have too much money because I have to spend a lot of things for my daily life but I still accumulate bitcoins whenever I get a chance.
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July 17, 2022, 02:50:17 AM
#54
I made a great mistake in 2020 during the pandemic by selling part of my bitcoin because of the dump, over the years have learnt my lesson, I don’t really care if $17k was the bottom or we are still expecting more dip but no matter how bitcoin dump this time around am holding and not selling, if am even having extral funds I will bag more bitcoin no matter how dip we go.
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July 16, 2022, 11:20:52 PM
#53
In a bearish market my number one priority is holding long. When I’m looking at new investments, I always try and bet on winners that I really believe in on a long enough time horizon. The reason I do this is because even if the market collapses, I know that my investment is safe if I can just wait out the negative conditions.

Personally, at the moment  I’m heavily invested in BTC and there is no way I would consider selling. I believe in the technology and I understand the value but it may take a while for the price to reflect that.
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July 16, 2022, 06:30:06 AM
#52
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.


I think this has something to do with the fact that the price of BTC reached an ATH last year around $60,000 on the market.

Given the wide array of knowledge spread across the globe, at least almost everyone knows about the price history index of BTC over the years. With that hope in mind, majority of the BTC HODLers (including myself) rely on the hope that its price will recover sooner or later, though no one knows when.

Also, there is nothing much to do in this bearish market. If you sell your BTCs, then you lose majority of your investments. If you actually HODL, then you run in to the risk of its price decreasing. But the fact that it reached an ATH last year means that its price may potentially recover.
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July 15, 2022, 07:20:13 PM
#51
You know you do bring up a really good point I personally have been overlooking. Sure it’s another ugly bear market, but unlike each times past, there are more and more people who believe, who aren’t throwing in the towel and who are in this for the long run. Honestly kind of forgot about this of late.
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July 15, 2022, 07:00:00 PM
#50
So, by what criteria was it determined that this was the worst bear market ever?
I bet op is talking about the price dumps since the ATH at 69k and now we are on 20k, actually its just 70%~ish decrease unlike the 2020 bear season where its almost 90% decrease and tanks at 3k lol.
So his stand is somewhat understandable when talking the price digit per billion of dollar have got lost due to the bear. Some business shuts their service too.
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July 15, 2022, 05:38:02 PM
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So, by what criteria was it determined that this was the worst bear market ever?
Probably, because there's other things going on outside of Bitcoin. The world is heading or already inside one of the biggest recessions most of us would've ever seen. Thus, it's natural to be a little bearish. However, just because buying hasn't exactly stood still yet, doesn't mean it won't. We aren't feeling the full effects of the recession yet, and within the next year, I suspect Bitcoin transactions will be down considerably. I'm not saying it'll lose further value during this, but the market won't be seeing as much Bitcoin being moved.

This will likely be worse than the previous stand stills we've had, since a recession means most people are struggling to live pay check, let alone put their money into a currency which is so volatile they might lose 70% of their investment in a week.

Bitcoin will be bought by those who have spare cash, these types of people are usually the wealthy elite, since they are the least effected by a recession. When we start seeing on mass redundancies, and job losses, that'll be when the true effect kicks in.

Although, I agree. It's not all doom, and gloom right now, and for those that aren't living pay check to pay check, you've got the opportunity to accumulate as much as Bitcoin as you can, while it's on sale.
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July 15, 2022, 05:10:08 PM
#48
look at the answers and votes, majority says they HODL but we can see at the bitcoin price movement that there are majority that sells instead of holding , I myself HODL but Sell some bitcoin also for my own safety .
at least if the price continues to fell then i have funds to buy more bitcoin or at least i have budget in times of emergency needed of funds,
That's hard to determine. However, I would say that a lot more people are holding on this dip, than the ones previous to it, which kind of suggests there's a little more faith in Bitcoin this time around. The only difference with this one is we'll be battling a recession alongside it, so Bitcoin might not return to previous highs for a while, which could hurt that confidence in the long run.

Honestly, I don't see us recovering this year, and probably not even next year. People will be too worried about living costs than investing their money, or using a alternative currency which has hit a bit of a dip.
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July 15, 2022, 04:48:14 PM
#47
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.
how did you know what you know very well is what you  will expose to air, this bearish market is something that repeat it self every blessed four years since the existence of bitcoin. Not the holders who knows or caused the bearish and bench lines of bitcoin this time. Holding Bitcoin they are only holding it for their own benefit and the prophet so there is nothing I can say that holders are the causes of these Bitcoin be in the bearish market
I disagree that it's every 4 years, but people somehow do. It was 3 years when it first happened, now it's 4 years. The first peak was in 2014, and the fall was in 2015, whereas the next one was in 2017 and drop was in 2018, which as you can see is 3 years. Just because it was 2021 this time around and 2022, that doesn't mean it's every 4 years.

However, I agree that there is a good chance we could see it happen to be 4 years again, it's either going to be in 2024 or it's going to be in 2025, when we will see the price go up very much. This doesn't mean it will happen for sure without a doubt, but the trajectory we have overall shows that there is a good possibility of it.
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July 14, 2022, 07:10:45 AM
#46
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

how did you know what you know very well is what you  will expose to air, this bearish market is something that repeat it self every blessed four years since the existence of bitcoin. Not the holders who knows or caused the bearish and bench lines of bitcoin this time. Holding Bitcoin they are only holding it for their own benefit and the prophet so there is nothing I can say that holders are the causes of these Bitcoin be in the bearish market
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July 14, 2022, 06:54:43 AM
#45
The poll is still fresh, so not many people responded, but I am happy to see that so far the vast majority is hodlers. I tend to hodl as well, especially during the bear market. I only sell if I absolutely have to due to some financial circumstances. To be honest, though, I try to maintain a similar behaviour during the bull market as well, although I can sell a bit more if the price is quite good and I know I'll need this fiat at some point this month, for instance.
As for those who sold now, I don't get it. You've probably acquired these coins at a higher price, so you sold at a loss. And there's no guarantee that the price will fall significantly below $20k. So you might then end up buying at a higher price because of realizing the market's moving up, which will lead to even more losses. It's best to sit tight and wait it out.
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July 14, 2022, 06:01:48 AM
#44
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

look at the answers and votes, majority says they HODL but we can see at the bitcoin price movement that there are majority that sells instead of holding , I myself HODL but Sell some bitcoin also for my own safety .
at least if the price continues to fell then i have funds to buy more bitcoin or at least i have budget in times of emergency needed of funds,
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July 14, 2022, 05:54:23 AM
#43
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.
I don't understand this, are you talking about the current bear market? Well, many will do agree that 2018 is much worse compare to the current that we have.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.
It's because many are looking forward to the future price of bitcoin. And it's likely that all of our minds are bonding together that sky is the limit for the next bull run.

You don't want to miss that when it happens and that's why many are holding at the current period of bear market.
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July 14, 2022, 05:45:37 AM
#42
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

This is a good sign for Bitcoin entirely that a lot of investors are begging to understand what is actually going on with the economy and inflation, this is a sign that indicates that there's no safer place to be right now than in Bitcoin , I'm not going to give up in hodling my portfolio in Bitcoin come their economic horrican or Tsunami , the only safest place to run for shield is owing BTC no matter their attempts to price out asset from the middle class,  #HODL continues.
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July 14, 2022, 05:34:05 AM
#41
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.


Worst BTC bearish? Not really, if you've seen how bearish the market was in 2018. That's actually worst that what's the current Bitcoin status today.

And, talking about the number of holders who keeps holding, that actually is expected as a result of the previous bear market.
People who's been in crypto space for quite a long time is not only holding, they're apparently accumulating more and the number of people who's doing this is increasing as well. I am pretty sure of it without having any sources to back it up.
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July 14, 2022, 05:01:16 AM
#40
The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

Indeed the 1 year+ holders are currently at 65% after hitting a high 66% last month. Even with a sell off from $30K to $20K, only 1.5% of these long-term holders have sold, which is impressive hodl mentality. This high level of long-term holders is unprecedented for Bitcoin's bear markets, which is why many believe it can be short-lived, even if the bear market previous has lasted for multiple years.

Based on the current poll results (66% I Hodl), this is very much a reflection of the overall sentiment of long-term Bitcoin holders right now.
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July 14, 2022, 01:38:29 AM
#39
I won't lie, I saw this drop incoming, I sold near $50k's and bought back at $32k, then sold at $64k in Nov.
The chart pattern which was forming was double top with bearish RSI Divergence in which RSI is was going down, Price was going up.

Once it came towards $48k, I was able to see it forming another similar pattern which happened in 2018 that it will touch $22k.
So I bought at $21.5k for 50%, and DCAing the rest 50% throughout the year.
I caught the bearish trend a bit late. I sold at $32k bought back at 25k  and never bought again. My indication is still pointing towards the bear market so i will rather wait to buy the dip. But if my analysis goes wrong i will buy above $25k to avoid been trapped. I will start applying DCA if price falls to $15k but if $15k margin never occurs then $25k again will be my new bull
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July 14, 2022, 01:18:30 AM
#38
The number of bitcoin adoptions is increasing due to the low value of bitcoin. Many new investors have invested in bitcoin.
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July 14, 2022, 12:44:47 AM
#37
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.


The hodlers have known the true capacity and capabilities of Bitcoins.
They know Bitcoins won’t break down their expectations. Bitcoins will rise no matter what happens.
The main reason for which many people are holding the Bitcoins are due to it’s marketcap.
Bitcoins are limited in number, so when the demand of the coin increases, the price will eventually rise and hence it’s good to HODL.
For these reasons the hodlers have increased compared to previous bearish markets.
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July 13, 2022, 11:57:17 PM
#36
Have not sold my stash now and only holding at the moment some coins I have bought back not a significant amount but still trying to accumulate more with whatever amount I can at these dips.But at this time only holding my coins for long term and maybe will sell some of it once it cross $50k or so but long term holding is option for me.
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July 13, 2022, 11:40:52 PM
#35
The number is increasing though some are selling off their bitcoin.
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July 13, 2022, 10:47:22 PM
#34
Even though many are selling, there are many who are investing and to the surprise some of them are new to bitcoin.
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July 13, 2022, 02:52:19 PM
#33
As more and more continue to educate themselves by paying attention to the previous bear market cycles, the ranks of HODLers will continue to grow and only grow stronger.  This does not surprise at all.
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July 13, 2022, 01:45:33 PM
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Worst BTC bearish market? Where did you get this information, OP?
I am pretty sure this ain't the "bearish" market in fact that I even encountered the price of 3k per BTC couple of years back.
Surely these indicators are not serious aren't they?

It's not the price that shows the severity of a crash but how fast and by how much it fell from the top. A fall from 5k to 3k would by no means be considered severe. A fall from 70k to 18k is really much worse. Some of the indicators we're talking about are the moving averages, number of red weeks in a row, volume of liquidations, the price being at the level of miner capitulation, which is the point where miners can no longer afford to hold their coins but instead sell everything to cover their bills, bitcoin being below the previous bull market high for the first time in history, and many more.
Yes, price isn't all but it was the market reaction toward bearish news. Just recently, news regarding FED keeps on their goals to increase the rate make BTC pull a long sell candle from 20k to 19k, just shy away a little to 18k price. Right now, I can say most people still holding their BTC in the exchange are the weak hand and traders. If you look for the strong or diamond hand, you'll find none since they already withdraw their BTC back to the cold wallet as the number of BTC holders raising show.
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July 13, 2022, 11:23:19 AM
#31
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.
Of course, doesn't make sense for holders to sell just because the price is tanking and one of the worst bearish market.

We even have this report, Bitcoin Leaving Exchanges Hits An All-Time High. But it doesn't mean that the bitcoin leaving exchanges are being sold, maybe they just want to put in a safe wallet wherein they have total control over it.
That is true, in fact, money in the exchanges means that it could be sold, money out of exchanges usually means that it’s not getting sold to me. That could be wrong, but I feel like people who would like to hold for a long term would want the money in their accounts, and in their own address' and not in some exchange. Think about all time high amounts of bitcoin being held in exchanges, would that be better? Of course not, this is why it makes sense to me that they would be doing a lot better right now in their own wallets.

This is another sign that bitcoin bull is coming very soon, or to me it is at least, maybe I am wrong and it doesn't mean that, but it sounds like that to me.
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July 13, 2022, 06:23:01 AM
#30
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.


Of course, no one really wants to sell their crypto assets at a time like this, after all, they might already get some huge amount of money from their last investment and this time they are not rushing and they don't really care about the market situation rather they just remain silent and aim for the long term investment which they will gonna get a huge amount of income. Today you only see a few people that are selling their coins because they don't have the guts to wait they don't have enough money to survive which leaves them no choice.
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July 13, 2022, 05:14:25 AM
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Yes, this comes as a result of the accumulation of experience, most of the traders with average experience realize that every drop in the market is followed by a rise, they must have witnessed many declines that occurred in the past then came the rally, also they realize that Bitcoin despite all this tough bear market has only one uptrend at the end, so the DCA strategy is the best in these times while continuing to hold of course.
This market needs patience and experience, the faint-hearted have no place in this market and unfortunately they always lose because they simply fall into the trap of whales.
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July 13, 2022, 04:59:04 AM
#28
The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

There is no doubt concerning in this situation and this bear was like a chance for those who engages their selves buying when the market was $67k despite that much increase in the price this is another chance to recover, making most investors buy and hold more for being at minus looking from the price today so there should be more holders insteads sellers. It is only novice who don't want to utilize this best opportunity would also come crying how they missed their chances of buy at +$17k.
If they've bought bitcoins at $67k and have been holding them until now, we should salute them for being able to hold onto them until now.
The current conditions allow them to buy more bitcoins at this low price, especially now that bitcoin is experiencing another correction and is at $19k.
If they buy more bitcoins at the current price, their actual purchase price could drop drastically because if they take their average purchase price, they are not buying at $67k but a low price.
I don't know how long the market conditions will change and we can all take big profits again.
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July 13, 2022, 03:04:46 AM
#27
The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

There is no doubt concerning in this situation and this bear was like a chance for those who engages their selves buying when the market was $67k despite that much increase in the price this is another chance to recover, making most investors buy and hold more for being at minus looking from the price today so there should be more holders insteads sellers. It is only novice who don't want to utilize this best opportunity would also come crying how they missed their chances of buy at +$17k.
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July 12, 2022, 03:11:32 PM
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Worst BTC bearish market? Where did you get this information, OP?
I am pretty sure this ain't the "bearish" market in fact that I even encountered the price of 3k per BTC couple of years back.
Surely these indicators are not serious aren't they?

It's not the price that shows the severity of a crash but how fast and by how much it fell from the top. A fall from 5k to 3k would by no means be considered severe. A fall from 70k to 18k is really much worse. Some of the indicators we're talking about are the moving averages, number of red weeks in a row, volume of liquidations, the price being at the level of miner capitulation, which is the point where miners can no longer afford to hold their coins but instead sell everything to cover their bills, bitcoin being below the previous bull market high for the first time in history, and many more.
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July 12, 2022, 12:21:51 PM
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Worst BTC bearish market? Where did you get this information, OP?
I am pretty sure this ain't the "bearish" market in fact that I even encountered the price of 3k per BTC couple of years back.
Surely these indicators are not serious aren't they?
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July 12, 2022, 12:04:16 PM
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The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.


This means investors are more understanding the bearish market now than before, probably only few number of investors are panic selling under this condition. btc 2021/22 performance have shown investors it is much more profitable to hodl even if the market is at it's lowest than to sell for loss. Those who held through the previous bear market were rewarded greatly. Once investors completely understood btc after every bear market will always hit a new ath will stop selling whenever there is bear season.
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July 12, 2022, 11:39:15 AM
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Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

It is the worst bear market in history but it's also:
  • the bear market with the highest high in history and so far the highest low
  • the bear market with all time low balance on exchanges
  • the bear market with the highest hash power in history
  • the first bear market with price of USD this high and high USD price always means a pressure on bitcoin

This is my third bear market and every time I held. This is going to be no different.
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July 12, 2022, 10:54:18 AM
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,,,,//....,,increasing resilence of hodlers.....//....:::

That is to say, that from his survey "I Hodl" you intend to get the number of Hodlers, because there is no projection in the OP  (or source), I feel that there are 3 themes in his context.

Believe me that resilience is something very individual and has nothing to do with a group of users, that is, the fact that you are a hodler does not mean that you are a person who has resilience.

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The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.
Where are the numbers that confirm that, or simply your idea is it something that as always happens with bitcoin is only  thoughts , sensations... of readingsn what happen here, there, even things like the result of the poll "x" (OP).

I am not saying that there are no sources that can be trusted based on that data (hodlers) but sometimes they are generated from perceptions individual.
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July 12, 2022, 05:44:26 AM
#21
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.
Of course, doesn't make sense for holders to sell just because the price is tanking and one of the worst bearish market.

We even have this report, Bitcoin Leaving Exchanges Hits An All-Time High. But it doesn't mean that the bitcoin leaving exchanges are being sold, maybe they just want to put in a safe wallet wherein they have total control over it.
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July 12, 2022, 12:48:46 AM
#20

I don't doubt that this is the case, what I doubt is that it is a bullish indicator, which is what the news sells us when they say that Bitcoins are leaving the exchanges.

The process of Bitcoin moving out of crypto exchanges into cold wallets is neither bullish or bearish.
The new money that enters the crypto market usually flows into the centralized crypto exchange platforms, because:
1.The platforms are usually more convenient.
2.Crypto newbies still don't understand the meaning of "not your keys, not your coins" and "be your own bank". That's why they prefer to trust a company.
The hardcore crypto traders/investors, who are inside the crypto world for several years, got disappointed by the crypto exchanges, so they are moving their coins out of them.
In summary, increasing the amount of coins in crypto exchanges can be seen as a bullish indicator, while coins moving from exchanges to cold storage is more like neutral. The argument of this process actually increasing the number of HODLers isn't completely valid, because those investors could potentially their sell the coins, which are stored in their cold wallets.
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July 12, 2022, 12:25:40 AM
#19
I can't lie to you am totally jot getting your point here, it maybe a question or suggestions but either ways I believe OP will find out time to get things right by himself with just a little editing to make it readable and understandable, here if i may try make some and bearish in bitcoin price isn't the first if it kind and holder only have the choice to wait until when the time comes for them to pull out for sale

The number of bitcoin is increasing according to some articles we see because the people who leave bitcoin price is currently at an extraordinary situation to buy are still buying bitcoins and holding it for the long term which is a good move by them however during the bearish market people will feel the pressure because some of them need their money and some others are worried about the price of bitcoin so they would start selling bitcoin, I can't lie here because I had to see a little part of my investment and feel regret however I'm waiting for a chance to buyback keep holding for long term.
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July 12, 2022, 12:14:41 AM
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The increase in number of hodlers is due to the awareness about bitcoin. Earlier people were just new to the market and that makes them easily fall for speculations. Now it is not the same, market is driven by all level of hodlers. In the past whales have the major contribution. Same as that we have cyclic market for stocks, here too similar thing is happening on four year cycle.

The price that reached ath during the year 2017 month of November further started to drop and the next ath was reached during the year 2020. Later once again the growth continued reaching the ath in the year 2021. So, a four year cycle is on process. Upon which the market will move in a stable manner and the bullish moves would take time. So, realising this the people might've started to accumulate. This too can be a reason for increase in number of hodlers than selling.
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July 11, 2022, 11:02:25 PM
#17
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.
That is On chain indicator but this is still not the bearish market ever because there are years in which the market drops really bad comparing to what we are having now.
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The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

Wait, how can you call them holder if they are going to sell their coin in whatever market condition this is?

lol of course they are holders(wait I am also a Holder lol) so they will keep the funds intact in this dumping market.
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July 11, 2022, 10:53:19 PM
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I don't doubt that this is the case, what I doubt is that it is a bullish indicator, which is what the news sells us when they say that Bitcoins are leaving the exchanges.
I didn't say this is a bullish indicator either, just that a lot of people are buying bitcoin. The reason why price dropped is because the dumps are sudden and big where whales and panic sellers sell a large amount of bitcoin in a very short time but the buys are slow and spread over time.

Besides if as you said bitcoin is leaving exchanges then it is supporting exactly what I said that people are buying bitcoin and moving it to their cold storages. Keep in mind that this has been happening for some time now, not just one small case. See this topic from last month: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-hodlers-are-actively-buying-bitcoin-these-days-5402690
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July 11, 2022, 10:50:38 PM
#15
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.


The current price is way above the price since the last bear market last pandemic so it means that many holders remain holding since the price is not on same level. Whales just transfer there big bag holdings to small retail holders that bought in the top and no choice than to hold. Y
We might see an increase of holders once the price dip lower because many will buy whales bug at lower price.

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July 11, 2022, 10:45:51 PM
#14
Actually the "on-chain indicators" have already shown that people are increasingly purchasing bitcoin and moving it to their cold storages. For example if you have checked the number of bitcoin addresses with a balance you could have seen that their number is increasing specifically those addresses with more than a whole bitcoin which shows that people are taking advantage of the current discount.

And yet the price keeps dropping?

I don't know if you have read what I posted before.

News from April 4, when the price was around $42k:

Bitcoin Continues To Flow Out Of Exchanges.

This one from January 28:

Bitcoin Worth $670M Leaves Centralized Exchanges After Hawkish Fed Comments.

I don't doubt that this is the case, what I doubt is that it is a bullish indicator, which is what the news sells us when they say that Bitcoins are leaving the exchanges.
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July 11, 2022, 10:45:05 PM
#13
Each cycle that is about 4 years, we have better adoption that is reflected on total Bitcoin addresses, number of estimated holders, utility for Bitcoin and upgrades in technology. In this cycle, we have Taproot upgrades + Schnorr signature and a very amazing growth of Lightning Network.

If you want to check holders and their on chain stats, I know some and will share them here

Wallet sizes from 100+, 1000+ BTC:
https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/wallets-greater-than-1000-btc/
https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/wallets-greater-than-100-btc/

Bitcoin Rich list: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

HODL camp: https://hodl.camp/
HODL waves: https://unchained.com/hodlwaves/

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July 11, 2022, 10:36:49 PM
#12
Actually the "on-chain indicators" have already shown that people are increasingly purchasing bitcoin and moving it to their cold storages. For example if you have checked the number of bitcoin addresses with a balance you could have seen that their number is increasing specifically those addresses with more than a whole bitcoin which shows that people are taking advantage of the current discount.
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July 11, 2022, 10:26:41 PM
#11
The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.

I was going to ask you for the source of this, but googling I get reddit and this: The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets

which are the same source garbage. An image that anyone can make with Paint.

I'm not saying it's fake, but I'm skeptical of this data. It reminds me of the number of times since a year ago that I've seen the news that the number of Bitcoins leaving the exchanges (supposedly for HODL) just keep growing. I remember seeing a news story about it 3 or 4 times just before it dropped in price.
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July 11, 2022, 09:58:31 PM
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How could you be that perfect in your chart reading? Interesting.

Told everyone that BTC is about to touch 200 Weekly Moving Average i.e. $21.5k - Bitcoin and It's Events
Told everyone that a 50% drop is incoming - Bitcoin Hash Ribbons Capitulation Alert!

It's not that hard when you are able to relate it with the historical patterns which happened with BTC previously.
And on top of that, I worked hard on my technical analysis.
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July 11, 2022, 09:55:35 PM
#9
I won't lie, I saw this drop incoming, I sold near $50k's and bought back at $32k, then sold at $64k in Nov.
The chart pattern which was forming was double top with bearish RSI Divergence in which RSI is was going down, Price was going up.

Once it came towards $48k, I was able to see it forming another similar pattern which happened in 2018 that it will touch $22k.
So I bought at $21.5k for 50%, and DCAing the rest 50% throughout the year.

Wow well done, i think the 17.8 K is last dip and i hope so if the bitcoin price break that supports in 17.8K i don't know what i going to say but DCA is best at this point in range 20K range and wait for other confirmation

Compared to previous bear market cycles we are just starting to get into this one. I do not think $17.8k was, or is, the lowest point we will see.

Just some random ramblings to keep in the back of your mind, the 2017 peak was just shy of $20k and the last peak in late 2021 was $69k (lets call it $70k for our simple thought experiment.)

So the difference in peaks between the two last bull markets was on the order of $70k/$20k or about 3.5x.

The low between the peaks was around $3200 (Dec 2018). So if we use the same multiplier of 3.5x on the low, we would see a new low of roughly $11,200 this time around.

Of course this is all just guesswork, but it does help to keep history in mind before becoming too confident in any bottom predictions.

Myself I would be more comfortable placing buys once the price gets closer to the $11k area than the rather lofty $17.8k region. Another thought is since $10k is a major psychological level, we would perhaps test that if BTC does get down that far, so even $11k is probably a bit high to hope for a true bottom, perhaps we might see some dips down in the $9k's.

Anyway DCA is your friend, but I would start investing very lightly at what I consider these high ($17k) estimates of BTC's bottom.
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July 11, 2022, 09:42:33 PM
#8
I hodl. And I am happy to see that many of those who voted in this poll are also hodlers like myself. This is despite the market condition and the outlook of a number of analysts that seem to predict of a more bearish days to come.

I am also happy that despite the heavy selling done by many weak hands, this does not just result into feeding the whales. The data shows that there are now a higher number of wallets with at least 1 Bitcoin. That must mean something.
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July 11, 2022, 09:11:29 PM
#7
I won't lie, I saw this drop incoming, I sold near $50k's and bought back at $32k, then sold at $64k in Nov.
The chart pattern which was forming was double top with bearish RSI Divergence in which RSI is was going down, Price was going up.

Once it came towards $48k, I was able to see it forming another similar pattern which happened in 2018 that it will touch $22k.
So I bought at $21.5k for 50%, and DCAing the rest 50% throughout the year.

Wow well done, i think the 17.8 K is last dip and i hope so if the bitcoin price break that supports in 17.8K i don't know what i going to say but DCA is best at this point in range 20K range and wait for other confirmation
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July 11, 2022, 07:28:21 PM
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I won't lie, I saw this drop incoming, I sold near $50k's and bought back at $32k, then sold at $64k in Nov.
The chart pattern which was forming was double top with bearish RSI Divergence in which RSI is was going down, Price was going up.

Once it came towards $48k, I was able to see it forming another similar pattern which happened in 2018 that it will touch $22k.
So I bought at $21.5k for 50%, and DCAing the rest 50% throughout the year.
How could you be that perfect in your chart reading? Interesting.
I am like when I really need cash then I take a good portion and sell. Many times I found myself, after selling some the market started to move up and up like 10x LOL
By the way, I am DCAing from long time. It was slow when the price was over $30k but now pushing it again.
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July 11, 2022, 07:19:10 PM
#5
I won't lie, I saw this drop incoming, I sold near $50k's and bought back at $32k, then sold at $64k in Nov.
The chart pattern which was forming was double top with bearish RSI Divergence in which RSI is was going down, Price was going up.

Once it came towards $48k, I was able to see it forming another similar pattern which happened in 2018 that it will touch $22k.
So I bought at $21.5k for 50%, and DCAing the rest 50% throughout the year.
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July 11, 2022, 06:58:39 PM
#4
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market,
Help me point out how this is so far the worst ever BTC bearish market?
I am going to be honest It hasn't affected me like the way the 2018-2019 bear market did.

Personally, I am trading more in this bear market with hope that by the time the next Bull market takes off, I should be having enough sats to get me some sweet profits during that time.
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July 11, 2022, 03:33:33 PM
#3
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.


I can't lie to you am totally jot getting your point here, it maybe a question or suggestions but either ways I believe OP will find out time to get things right by himself with just a little editing to make it readable and understandable, here if i may try make some and bearish in bitcoin price isn't the first if it kind and holder only have the choice to wait until when the time comes for them to pull out for sale
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July 11, 2022, 03:21:43 PM
#2
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market,
What online indicators are pointing towards this? The bearish sentiments are definitely high among investors and traders, but calling it the worst ever Bitcoin bear market seems like a bit of a reach

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.
As the Bitcoin market grows, investors have lots of history to understudy and this would definitely influence their resolve to hold or cut their losses. Much earlier when Bitcoin was still a very novel concept and there were lots of uncertainties about it, it was much more difficult to actually hodl than it is now.
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July 11, 2022, 03:03:17 PM
#1
Although the on-chain indicators point towards the worst-ever BTC bearish market, they also underscore the increasing resilence of hodlers.

The number of hodlers not selling ever under extreme market conditions has become higher than in previous bearish markets.
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