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Omicron is another FUD
March 29, 2020, 10:48:16 AM
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This was 14 years ago. So I am more inclined in natural causes rather than conspiracy theory of being a biological weapon. They know it is coming. I wonder what would be his statement in the current pandemic.

 
I do also believe this is a natural virus transmitted from these bats and animals to humans. I don't believe in the conspiracy theories that it was made in a lab and released for some secret agenda.

Nice screenshots and it seems few in the field of virology foresaw this coming.
I am sure from the beginning what he examined was unbelievable and underestimated.  14 years ago was a very long time for the whole world to be prepared for the possibility of a bad Coronavirus outbreak.  It is no longer a public secret that many studies produced by researchers are not trusted, underestimated and not published.  we just take the example of "global warming" since the very first adverse effect that will occur due to "global warming" was announced by researchers, since that time many countries and even officials said that "Global warming is only a research Imagination"..

Until now, a lot of research from researchers has been kept, locked or even destroyed for the benefit of a group or just to maintain stability/situation to remain conducive. 

for that at this time we are all demanded to DYOR on the viral things that happen, so we are not trapped by HOAX which leads to the interests of a group because most of the HOAX is controlled by a group to harm or benefit other groups
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March 29, 2020, 04:56:11 AM
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The author, Vincent C. C. Cheng, has been working in related coronavirus cases

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1489438/



This was 14 years ago. So I am more inclined in natural causes rather than conspiracy theory of being a biological weapon. They know it is coming. I wonder what would be his statement in the current pandemic.

 
I do also believe this is a natural virus transmitted from these bats and animals to humans. I don't believe in the conspiracy theories that it was made in a lab and released for some secret agenda.

Nice screenshots and it seems few in the field of virology foresaw this coming.
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March 29, 2020, 04:50:05 AM
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I do also believe this is a natural virus transmitted from these bats and animals to humans. I don't believe in the conspiracy theories that it was made in a lab and released for some secret agenda.

Nice screenshots and it seems few in the field of virology foresaw this coming.
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Omicron is another FUD
March 29, 2020, 01:26:10 AM
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Personally I think it's due to eating infected bats. If it was an accidental release from a lab, then the Chinese government would have been a lot quicker to implement lockdown. And if it was a deliberate release, it's unlikely they would have deliberately created chaos in their own country and economy.

Thanks for the post about the advance warnings. There have been a few similar reports, but mostly anecdotal. Nice to see something in writing. I think we can draw parallels here with other disasters, such as 9/11, and potential disasters-in-waiting such as climate change. I think what tends to happen is that experts publish threat warnings, but governments take no notice because of cost. Most governments, particularly in western democracies, are extremely short-termist, and base their policies on the 4 or 5 year electoral cycle. They want to do what will be popular today and will have a visible effect today, not sensible planning that will cost money today but reap rewards in 10 years' time - who know who will be in power in 10 years' time and able to claim the glory when the effects are apparent?

The effects of COVID-19 here in the UK have been made far worse by the fact that our health service is under-funded. Evidence has surfaced today that in 2017 the UK government decided against buying protective equipment for frontline medical staff on the basis of cost:

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A recommendation for all frontline NHS staff to be given protective equipment during a flu epidemic was rejected as too costly, an explosive memo reveals. Labour said the decision – made in 2017, when Jeremy Hunt was the health secretary – left "serious questions" for ministers to answer about whether underfunding was now costing lives. In recent weeks, doctors and nurses have protested against a shortage of equipment which has left them at risk of contracting – and spreading – coronavirus on hospital wards. Now the document shows advisers called for "eye protection for all hospital, community, ambulance and social care staff who have close contact with pandemic influenza patients". Either visors or safety glasses should be provided, because of evidence of becoming infected via the eyes when in close contact with pandemic influenza patients, they said.
The recommendation came from Nervtag, a body set up in 2015 to prepare for the new and emerging threat from respiratory viruses. However, according to minutes of a meeting in June 2017, seen by The Guardian, a health official rejected it because of "the very large incremental cost of adding in eye protection". Jonathan Ashworth MP, Labour’s shadow health secretary, said: "There are serious questions for the government to answer about why warnings on providing equipment were ignored and dismissed because of underfunding."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-nhs-protective-equipment-jeremy-hunt-eye-protection-a9431311.html
at times like this, we will only see a variety of decisions, I am surprised by the policies adopted by the UK, we know for sure that Prince Charles and Boris Johnson are positive of Corona but why do they not approve emergency costs for health as is the case today??  

of all the decisions I appreciate the quick steps of the Indian prime minister & the president of the Philippines their decision is very fast and appropriate to cut off the coronavirus spread network with "Total Lockdown" of their country or city even though the sufferer is not above 1000 patient.  and I also appreciate the President of the United States who stimulated their economy by $ 2 trillion during the "Lockdown" period to protect its citizens from economic difficulties and health costs during the "Lockdown" period.

I would imagine a lot of governments are reluctant to spend huge sums of money on something that might happen in future, and might happen under a different administration. They would rather spend the money on visible effects right now, and damn the future.

This crisis is highlighting all sorts of institutional failings across the world, and demonstrating very starkly that the current economic set-up is not fit-for-purpose.

I would hope that when the dust settles and economic activity starts up again, that lessons are learned and that we can change how things are run, so that governments are more forward-thinking and are more interested in the welfare and wellbeing of their citizens, rather than in whatever the next news headline will be and whether they can put enough sticking-plaster short-term solutions on long-term problems to get themselves through to victory in the next election.

I hope things will change, but history teaches me to be very skeptical that there will be much change at all, beyond the governments exploiting the crisis to assume swingeing new powers such as mass surveillance.
You are very right, I just hope that governments around the world learn from this experience, as you said that the possibility of events like this will repeat in the future, hopefully, officials will not only prioritize their positions but also their citizens because it is no longer a public secret that most of the officials around the world promise only during their campaign period and will forget their promises when they have been elected..

Then we have the Malayan Pangolins
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2169-0

- It's not confirmed that it's the source but the corona virus found on tissue samples of Pangolins had similarities with COVID-19
- Pangolins were being sold in Hubei's wet market where the COVID-19 outbreak was traced
thank you for the information, at least we know that the spread of the Coronavirus can be helped by some living things (not just humans or animals).  "WHO" must really pay attention to countries that are famous for exotic food and their exotic animals because it is not impossible that new viruses will emerge from countries other than China.
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March 29, 2020, 01:08:47 AM
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Then we have the Malayan Pangolins
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2169-0

- It's not confirmed that it's the source but the corona virus found on tissue samples of Pangolins had similarities with COVID-19
- Pangolins were being sold in Hubei's wet market where the COVID-19 outbreak was traced
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March 28, 2020, 03:47:32 PM
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Personally I think it's due to eating infected bats. If it was an accidental release from a lab, then the Chinese government would have been a lot quicker to implement lockdown. And if it was a deliberate release, it's unlikely they would have deliberately created chaos in their own country and economy.

Thanks for the post about the advance warnings. There have been a few similar reports, but mostly anecdotal. Nice to see something in writing. I think we can draw parallels here with other disasters, such as 9/11, and potential disasters-in-waiting such as climate change. I think what tends to happen is that experts publish threat warnings, but governments take no notice because of cost. Most governments, particularly in western democracies, are extremely short-termist, and base their policies on the 4 or 5 year electoral cycle. They want to do what will be popular today and will have a visible effect today, not sensible planning that will cost money today but reap rewards in 10 years' time - who know who will be in power in 10 years' time and able to claim the glory when the effects are apparent?

The effects of COVID-19 here in the UK have been made far worse by the fact that our health service is under-funded. Evidence has surfaced today that in 2017 the UK government decided against buying protective equipment for frontline medical staff on the basis of cost:

Quote
A recommendation for all frontline NHS staff to be given protective equipment during a flu epidemic was rejected as too costly, an explosive memo reveals. Labour said the decision – made in 2017, when Jeremy Hunt was the health secretary – left "serious questions" for ministers to answer about whether underfunding was now costing lives. In recent weeks, doctors and nurses have protested against a shortage of equipment which has left them at risk of contracting – and spreading – coronavirus on hospital wards. Now the document shows advisers called for "eye protection for all hospital, community, ambulance and social care staff who have close contact with pandemic influenza patients". Either visors or safety glasses should be provided, because of evidence of becoming infected via the eyes when in close contact with pandemic influenza patients, they said.
The recommendation came from Nervtag, a body set up in 2015 to prepare for the new and emerging threat from respiratory viruses. However, according to minutes of a meeting in June 2017, seen by The Guardian, a health official rejected it because of "the very large incremental cost of adding in eye protection". Jonathan Ashworth MP, Labour’s shadow health secretary, said: "There are serious questions for the government to answer about why warnings on providing equipment were ignored and dismissed because of underfunding."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-nhs-protective-equipment-jeremy-hunt-eye-protection-a9431311.html

I would imagine a lot of governments are reluctant to spend huge sums of money on something that might happen in future, and might happen under a different administration. They would rather spend the money on visible effects right now, and damn the future.

This crisis is highlighting all sorts of institutional failings across the world, and demonstrating very starkly that the current economic set-up is not fit-for-purpose.

I would hope that when the dust settles and economic activity starts up again, that lessons are learned and that we can change how things are run, so that governments are more forward-thinking and are more interested in the welfare and wellbeing of their citizens, rather than in whatever the next news headline will be and whether they can put enough sticking-plaster short-term solutions on long-term problems to get themselves through to victory in the next election.

I hope things will change, but history teaches me to be very skeptical that there will be much change at all, beyond the governments exploiting the crisis to assume swingeing new powers such as mass surveillance.
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Omicron is another FUD
March 28, 2020, 02:00:06 PM
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previously I found this in one of the posts of a health expert (sorry I didn't include the name + link)


so far we know that the country most ready to deal with the coronavirus is China and this is what causes the outside world to think and assume that they (China) have had plans for Covid-19 from the start.

the article above is the result of a study of a group of researchers in 2007, I personally am not too sure whether this article really came from the study or the way a person or a group to calm panic because confidence in China is reduced

until now the actual theory about the origin of the covid-19 virus is still confusing and The following is speculation about the origin of Covid-19 or better known as the coronavirus;

- Bat Soup Causes Coronavirus
- Coronavirus intentionally spread by the Chinese regime (biological weapons)
- Coronavirus originated from leakage of laboratories in Wuhan


some researchers say that the drug from the coronavirus can never be found as was the case before it namely Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) & H5N1 influenza virus.  viruses or bacteria can only be killed by disinfecting the ones that actually kill germs.  this is the reason why we are all nowadays in almost all over the world, it is recommended to keep our distance or what is called "Social Distancing"

in the future we will not hear news about the discovery of a cure for coronavirus sufferers, coronavirus will only die when our immune fight..

we might not know about the true origin of covid-19..  for now, the best way we can only do is maintain social distance even in the family, wash hands with soap, and disinfect our clothes and home environment

*Stop the spread of Covid-19
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