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legendary
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May 07, 2022, 08:37:03 AM
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In my first few months in the community, I want to learn in ways in the world of crypto currency, and I found out this community has a lot of information to help me in the future. After that, I discover the possible earnings through the services, which is a different event simultaneously with the signature campaigns too current; I enjoy sharing my experience and knowledge at the same time is earning, which is both win-win situations for me. Also, that's the reason why we better invest with our understanding too.

And that is exactly why this forum is still so attractive to others.
New members can learn from older and more experienced members, or present their crypto projects, and more experienced members can monetize their knowledge and experience through signature campaigns.
This forum allows everyone to get something, and also allows members of local communities to connect and get to know each other.
Truly an ideal scenario for everyone.
hero member
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Those who come just to make money without any other benefit like knowledge then I'm sure they have wasted a lot of their time on this forum. But it is hard to say that they are not knowledgeable at all because in fact they know how to trade and make a profit.

I don't think all forum users are technically savvy with bitcoin and whatnot, but I think as long as they know how to use it and know the basics then I think they are considered knowledgeable. It is possible that an experienced trader may not be able to contribute to the forum because they cannot express their opinion well. So from a different point of view, there are times when people we consider to be spammers may still be knowledgeable users but cannot express their opinions well while writing.
I agree with this one and even though they are knowledgeable yet they still spam just for the sake of earning money and learn at the same time. Before, I was like that where I can't fully express my opinion and what I want to say so instead of them understanding my point but they criticize me. Well, it did help me through that and I am glad because of that. I wouldn't have what I have and learned today if not because of those who contributed a lot to this forum and guide me.
legendary
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In my first few months in the community, I want to learn in ways in the world of crypto currency, and I found out this community has a lot of information to help me in the future. After that, I discover the possible earnings through the services, which is a different event simultaneously with the signature campaigns too current; I enjoy sharing my experience and knowledge at the same time is earning, which is both win-win situations for me. Also, that's the reason why we better invest with our understanding too.
legendary
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Well said,the forum was basically made to gain knowledge,and exchange knowledge from one person to the next person. Informations about Bitcoin and other happenings in the world are told here,and idea on how to handle problems in the forum are discussed.Bitcointalk forum enlightens and educates one on how best you can invest your money safely without loosing.Therefore,anyone who comes here with the sole intention of making money,will end up wasting money on projects that are not worth it.
Those who come just to make money without any other benefit like knowledge then I'm sure they have wasted a lot of their time on this forum. But it is hard to say that they are not knowledgeable at all because in fact they know how to trade and make a profit.

I don't think all forum users are technically savvy with bitcoin and whatnot, but I think as long as they know how to use it and know the basics then I think they are considered knowledgeable. It is possible that an experienced trader may not be able to contribute to the forum because they cannot express their opinion well. So from a different point of view, there are times when people we consider to be spammers may still be knowledgeable users but cannot express their opinions well while writing.
sr. member
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Knowledge begat money in any ecosystem bitcointalk not exempted. Most bounty hunters have their own motive. I think every one is entitled to their motive of been on the forum the progress over time will sieve the knowledgeable and the bounty/ airdrop hunters. I my own opinion knowledge is a strong currency it guarantees even better pay if acquired
sr. member
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I don't think many will join because of both money and knowledge. I even came across a newbie who wanted to increase his rank but failed to do so as he is focused on joining bounty which I'm sure he must have joined some scam bounties and even earn less. If you really here for knowledge only then you wouldn't have said money and knowledge since you can work outside the forum like working government or private company. I would say that Bitcointalk is a place where many people share knowledge and information then you'll surely learn here and never get discouraged like other newbies did.
Well said,the forum was basically made to gain knowledge,and exchange knowledge from one person to the next person. Informations about Bitcoin and other happenings in the world are told here,and idea on how to handle problems in the forum are discussed.Bitcointalk forum enlightens and educates one on how best you can invest your money safely without loosing.Therefore,anyone who comes here with the sole intention of making money,will end up wasting money on projects that are not worth it.
legendary
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The reason why many people joined bitcointalk forum is because, is a legit site, where you can get any kind of information on cryptocurency investment, and many activity take place, which you can participate on bounty and Airdrop and get rewards and also building account to a higher rank, which can add many advantage on signature post on the forum. 
This forum also has a marketplace and a board for services, where it allows everyone to buy and sell, and the payment method is crypto. In addition, this forum has useful boards to discuss trading, signals, and development for Bitcoin and altcoins. There are also local boards to increase awareness and gain experience in your native language. There are boards to answer questions for beginners, so we can say that this forum is useful for people in everything related to cryptocurrency or otherwise.
hero member
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I don't think many will join because of both money and knowledge. I even came across a newbie who wanted to increase his rank but failed to do so as he is focused on joining bounty which I'm sure he must have joined some scam bounties and even earn less. If you really here for knowledge only then you wouldn't have said money and knowledge since you can work outside the forum like working government or private company. I would say that Bitcointalk is a place where many people share knowledge and information then you'll surely learn here and never get discouraged like other newbies did.
member
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The reason why many people joined bitcointalk forum is because, is a legit site, where you can get any kind of information on cryptocurency investment, and many activity take place, which you can participate on bounty and Airdrop and get rewards and also building account to a higher rank, which can add many advantage on signature post on the forum. 
member
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Everything falls in the bracket of either "knowledge" or "money" but then again this is the central place where you are guaranteed of get the correct information  related to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as there isn't any other. Besides all this, information here is free of charge without needing you to pay a dime for it like you would on other platforms .
Nobody will come and would love to leave the forum. The forum has a lot that any body who visits would not like to go back. Every good place where people love to be has good reason why people love it. The forum has a lot to do to solve peoples problems in knowledge and other aspects.
hero member
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Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge. The zeal to make money has made many to learn more about bitcoin even if their main motive of joining the bitcointalk forum is to just make money to earn a living. They need to go on research and learn more about bitcoin in order to make qualitative and informative post to gain more merit in order to rank up and get higher pay in signatures they’re participating it. In other words, the knowledge gain can be shared with new members who come to the forum to ask about a particular thing they’re not so sure of.
Either ways, the motive of joining the forum has made many to still achieve the primary aim of why the group is created. To learn about the basics of bitcoin and how the market works plus mining.

I have to agree with this because in the gool ol' days of Bitcointalk where airdrops and bounties are paying big amounts, most of the new members here are having the purpose to make money by joining bounty programs and not learning and contributing about Bitcoin, blockchain, etc., except posting low quality content, POAs and weekly reports.

Thanks to the merit system, it improves the forum overall by minimizing spam activities and low quality posts. Educating yourself and contributing in a decent way should be the main purpose in joining this forum and not only for the purpose of doing bounties only. Just saying.
hero member
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I am pretty sure that most people join this Bitcointalk forum at first to seek for salary, to get money as what they see from their friends and others. This is also what I was when at first joining this forum, I wanted to earn a lot of money from this forum like what happened to my friends at that time in 2017.

you're somewhat right about this as it happens in most situations, but I've seen a large number of users here as well who doesn't mind engaging in a signature campaign neither were they after any bounty, i think this forum has been the most appropriate platform to get any information needed about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies without having any second thought on the reliability of the informations here, this forum will serve as a guide to having a good experience for a practical application as well, so i see no reason why such users should deviate from their major purpose into hunting for campaign, while some can not even go by the campaign rules and see no reason joining.
legendary
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Everything falls in the bracket of either "knowledge" or "money" but then again this is the central place where you are guaranteed of get the correct information  related to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as there isn't any other.
This is one of the oldest Bitcoin forums and the only one I am personally active in, but it's not the only good source of Bitcoin-related information. Stack Exchange has plenty of knowledgeable individuals who can also help those who run into problems. When searching for solutions to some issues, I have often found that the information on Stack Exchange is very good. Google positions them quite high in terms of search results as well.

I don't know if the altcoin section is the best place to discuss alternative coins and the technology though. Maybe someone could name 5 great posters with extensive knowledge of altcoins? Whoever is active in the Bitcoin discussion boards wouldn't have any issues naming knowledgeable individuals there and would certainly receive any help needed.   
legendary
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There could also be rules in place like 'signature campaigns have to be paid in BTC' or something similar, to prevent the obvious rip-off campaigns that don't even intend to pay people, which probably do 'spam' the most, though (need multiple posts to get $1 worth).
What are your thoughts on this?
I know I complained of this too a year or two ago (can't be sure of time again) that bounty section should be looked into and handled with the same ferocity that signature campaigns were handled. At least, if not for anything, it will help curb scam projects and spamming. The case is even worse when it has to do with social media tasks on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, just to name but three. It's trash bounty hunters posts there. In the past (at the time I joined this forum) we had a few issues of signature campaigns run and the companies scammed posters by refusing to pay. That's in the past now as we don't get to find such in signature campaigns of today. Same measures can be put in place to deter scam projects from running campaigns here.
hero member
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Everything falls in the bracket of either "knowledge" or "money" but then again this is the central place where you are guaranteed of get the correct information  related to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as there isn't any other. Besides all this, information here is free of charge without needing you to pay a dime for it like you would on other platforms .
Some of them come with the mindset of obtaining knowledge of cryptocurrency, while their elementary objectives to join the community is because of fund's but they won't speech out, Yes it's true that knowledge is one of the basic functions of been into to the community, because it's easier to understand anything of cryptocurrency especially bitcoin here without disturbance, and it's that the knowledge is Free, so if you have knowledge in mind you can as well acquire it here because all cryptocurrencies knowledge transmitters is here.
hero member
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Everything falls in the bracket of either "knowledge" or "money" but then again this is the central place where you are guaranteed of get the correct information  related to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as there isn't any other. Besides all this, information here is free of charge without needing you to pay a dime for it like you would on other platforms .
hero member
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Actually, there are several reasons people join the forum for, which all you have mentioned are not far from it, because bitcointalk is one big forum with over 2 million monthly website visitors on the internet where barely all crypto-related issues are being discussed, ranging from trading, mining, how to buy, how to launch or market a coin and many others numerous to mention.
Because using myself as a case study, there has been a massive improvement in me now than when I started in the forum last year, I have learned a lot, understood many different concepts I would have never had if I never come to this forum because this forum is the only place on the planet where you can ask a question and get feedback from top experience persons in such field without a consultation fee.
And secondly, with the little few tips people get from the forum through signature campaigns and bounty, people can now actually devote time to making research on crypto-related topics.

hero member
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I cant deny the very first reason when I joined this forum is to learn how  to earn more bitcoins out of curiosity after learning that this can be turn into fiat wayback 2015, but as time pass by you will realize that this forum is not all about earning bitcoin or new altcoins, this is also a place where you can ask advice and gain knowledge of different things you want to ask from other members like trading strategy, investment opportunity, loan money if you need an immediate funds, sharing your skills and earn extra income for it.

Even you joined the forum for earning, you have to complete the full stages of Learning. Earning from the forum isn't that easy imo as for a new comer to master basics of bitcoin and blockchain wouldn't be that easy task to familiarize with. Unless users join the forum with previous background knowledge about cryptocurrencies and the methods to earn from them, they are here to learn. As for others from whom we already learn, they here for earn by sharing the good knowledge.
sr. member
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Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge. The zeal to make money has made many to learn more about bitcoin even if their main motive of joining the bitcointalk forum is to just make money to earn a living.
Either ways, the motive of joining the forum has made many to still achieve the primary aim of why the group is created. To learn about the basics of bitcoin and how the market works plus mining.

You forgot to mention scammers and developers there are no subjects to be discussed if the developers did not join here to promote their project, they also contribute to the enhancement of the discussion here.
unfortunately, since this is an open forum scammers are also joining and luring people to fall into their scheme, while Bitcointalk is a great community for sharing everything about Cryptocurrency we also should be aware that there are scammers here working to make money out of gullible.
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Apart from the two points you listed above, which are;
1. To earn
2. To learn
Most of the beginners are joining forum to make shitposts and they are just want to make money by joining bounties.But they should learn and follow forum's high rankers. And I saw now people are joining to be a higher ranker in this forum.

So hunting Merits or making money is very easy when you have idea about the proper way. So learning is essential than earning and forum is the best place to learn and to earn.
legendary
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I can't for the life of me understand how a lot of people still join Bitcointalk solely for "bounty hunting" a.k.a. spamming on social media despite the fact that it's pretty much a total waste of time now. I'd understand if it was in 2017 where every obvious crap token pumped, but today? Nah.
LOL, you never can know how desperate a human being can be, to you, it might seem Iike a waste of time but for them, they don't see it that way,. Am not trying to justify what they do but Most of this peeps are from third world countries where poverty has really destroyed lives, so they look for means to have a better life and are ready to do anything and don't really care how much they earn, as long as something is earned by the end of the day.
hero member
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Apart from the two points you listed above, which are;
1. To earn
2. To learn
Yes, but the calculation of the people who are here earn is huge that the number of people who're here to learn and I can say 95% of the people that join the forum before the Covid-19 happened are here to learn.

Earning is somewhat the most reason why but learning is just about to happen because it is needed. I'm not sure where 95% came from but I believe the majority of 100% has been thinking that cryptocurrency gives us a profit while learning. This is all about the money that increases market interest in the community and it brings them here.
- Traders  makes use of this forum to gain idea and applied to actual trading and the result is profit-money
- Investors collect ideas in here which coin is a good investment and the results are positive -still earning money
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Apart from the two points you listed above, which are;
1. To earn
2. To learn
Yes, but the calculation of the people who are here earn is huge that the number of people who're here to learn and I can say 95% of the people that join the forum before the Covid-19 happened are here to learn.

There are also people who don't know why they are here in the forum. The just dance to where ever the breeze blows them to.
This is not possible. There are individuals that will join a site online without having any motive though the person may be lost in the journey.
hero member
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this is also a place where you can ask advice and gain knowledge of different things you want to ask from other members like trading strategy, investment opportunity, loan money if you need an immediate funds, sharing your skills and earn extra income for it.
There are so many topics and threads scattered out there containing information on many things regarding Bitcoin, Altcoins, mining, Loans, services, project announcements, etc. So I don't think there's any perspective if the forums are just hunting for income but we often get advice from seniors on market analysis and risk management in trading. So we grew up in the forum because we wanted to increase our knowledge of cryptocurrencies so earning is not our goal here.
hero member
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Apart from the two points you listed above, which are;
1. To earn
2. To learn
There are also people who don't know why they are here in the forum. The just dance to where ever the breeze blows them to. They cause nuisance and some troll and if you ban them they create new accounts and continue roaming about.
Also some sees here as a social media where they make posts and chat. I remember when my inbox will be full with messages as if here is a chatting platform.
These set of people constitutes nuisance to the forum and it would have been fine if they came for earning
member
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Let's not shy away from the truth, everyone needs money, like whenever one hears the word Bitcoin first thing that comes into mind is money to be made.

Everyone desire to getting more and more knowledge about Bitcoin is not unconnected to making money from it.

Knowledge they say it's power, so the knowledge from Bitcoin empowers one to make money. So  wether you're focus directly on the knowledge of Bitcoin, you're still indirectly making money from it.

But it's much better when one focuses on the knowledge aspect than just the money. Cause with just a focus only on the money that comes with it, you can't be well-empowered knowledge-wise to add into others growth, especially to our newbie's growth.
hero member
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I cant deny the very first reason when I joined this forum is to learn how  to earn more bitcoins out of curiosity after learning that this can be turn into fiat wayback 2015, but as time pass by you will realize that this forum is not all about earning bitcoin or new altcoins, this is also a place where you can ask advice and gain knowledge of different things you want to ask from other members like trading strategy, investment opportunity, loan money if you need an immediate funds, sharing your skills and earn extra income for it.
hero member
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You should not hide your motive or intensions, it's very obvious that from the year 2020, the most of people who joined bitcointalk community does not join through the awareness of bitcoin or airdrop in telegram, Facebook, Twitter, reddit, Instagram and other unmentioned social media platforms, people were informed of the community base on their brothers and sisters are here to earn bitcoin.. if signature campaign stop today in bitcointalk so many people will take a hill and will never return.

So many of them are curious to earn merit and grow their account because of their are inquisitive to earn, many don't have the passion in bitcoin and never used their money to purchase bitcoins or any other cryptocurrencies before joining the community, we all know that seventy percent is interested of weekly earn of bitcoin..i wanted to mention few users who are here because of the ove they have for Bitcoin and not interested to earn any Bitcoin or funds...but i will not because it might causes vital argument or looks like fashion.
hero member
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Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge.
I am pretty sure that most people join this Bitcointalk forum at first to seek for salary, to get money as what they see from their friends and others. This is also what I was when at first joining this forum, I wanted to earn a lot of money from this forum like what happened to my friends at that time in 2017.
But after joining in this forum, we will be aware enough that this forum is not only about earning money, but more to that,more precious if we can look for deeply information, knowldge, and also discussions. Everything is provided here, we can gain not only money ut also knowledge, friends, and also otehr business achievenet.
hero member
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There is one good way to check the real interests of the people who join the forum. Cancel all subscription companies and bounty companies. How many people will stay on the forum? And how popular will it remain? But those people who joined the forum in the first years of its existence are the real bitcoiners. Their history and lessons should be valued and constantly studied. It is they who today create educational materials that must be read by beginners in order to correctly determine all the advantages of bitcoin.
New forum members are not really here for knowledge, but their main motivation is to earn an income that they immediately participate in the bounty campaigns even if they have no sufficient knowledge about bitcoin and the crypto market. This is the reason why the forum now is full of spam and do not seem very informative, like it used to be in its early years. Good thing there are still early bitcoiners left in the forum as they still contribute valuable ideas that newbies need to learn and reflect. 
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on of the main reasons this forum was created i believe is to educated through important discussions. though employing the reward system is to encourage active participation, increase awareness and educate people on the investment they are going into. it is unfortunate that we cant control the motive of others but we can check mate some excesses by our positive and educative post. especially for those who are here to learn. we keep making our research to educate them. what is within our control we should do, which is to research and educate ourselves. i am learning a lot from the post of others in this forum.
legendary
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Yeah you are right, most people are in this forum just to make money of it, the number of Bounty hunters in this forum now is just unbelievable. Like most people even think that Bounty hunting is the primary objective of this forum, and those who don't think will actually need to rank up to gain more money in the signature campaign.
For they think that the Bitcointalk forum is a good source of income, MONEY.
Perhaps, we can't deny the reality, those who often search for an online job might fall in here and see the great opportunity. But I think this was just all about earning money upon joining signature campaigns and bounties, we've also learned ideas, getting to know about cryptocurrency.

But I have some suggestions for you mate,
Instead of focusing on joining bounties and signature campaigns, it was also better to learn trading or simple investment. This perhaps gives you a passive income somewhat in the future if you were good on that.

Anything that can serve as a source of income will attract interest from the community. That is just one side. The other side, however, is that this forum offers a wealth of knowledge and opinion, especially from those with prior professional experience in crypto. When investing in the space, one needs to have faith in the community, and this will offer lots of information to everyone. Those who actually use it will benefit from the commitment from a handful of top minds, and the hope of learning.
hero member
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Yeah you are right, most people are in this forum just to make money of it, the number of Bounty hunters in this forum now is just unbelievable. Like most people even think that Bounty hunting is the primary objective of this forum, and those who don't think will actually need to rank up to gain more money in the signature campaign.
For they think that the Bitcointalk forum is a good source of income, MONEY.
Perhaps, we can't deny the reality, those who often search for an online job might fall in here and see the great opportunity. But I think this was just all about earning money upon joining signature campaigns and bounties, we've also learned ideas, getting to know about cryptocurrency.

But I have some suggestions for you mate,
Instead of focusing on joining bounties and signature campaigns, it was also better to learn trading or simple investment. This perhaps gives you a passive income somewhat in the future if you were good on that.
member
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Yeah you are right, most people are in this forum just to make money of it, the number of Bounty hunters in this forum now is just unbelievable. Like most people even think that Bounty hunting is the primary objective of this forum, and those who don't think will actually need to rank up to gain more money in the signature campaign.
hero member
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Well, everyone has different reasons. ranging from those who like to discuss and broaden their knowledge, there are those who accidentally find this forum, and many more. but for all the reasons there is a commonality in the ultimate goal of making a profit. both in terms of money and insight. but this forum makes people more insightful. however, to get merit and rank up in this forum, you must have quality posts and quality posts require insight and skills and creativity so that people become competitive in the forum. so even though the main goal is money but in the process of getting it, people are more insightful because unconsciously everything becomes competitive. and it's fun for me personally.
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Learning about Crypto should be the main reason to join Bitcointalk forum. Because if you have not much knowledge you can't make money from crypto. So every new users should forum on learning before earning.
legendary
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There is one good way to check the real interests of the people who join the forum. Cancel all subscription companies and bounty companies. How many people will stay on the forum? And how popular will it remain? But those people who joined the forum in the first years of its existence are the real bitcoiners. Their history and lessons should be valued and constantly studied. It is they who today create educational materials that must be read by beginners in order to correctly determine all the advantages of bitcoin.
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Base on vast majority, I agree with you on the aspect that most people are now joining the forum for the purpose of earnings, which is a kinda being contrary to the major reason why the forum was being created, but that doesn't take away the fact that there are a lot of people too who genuinely joined the forum for the purpose of getting more information and education about Bitcoin . If there is a way to clamp down on those spamming Bounties in order to sanitize the furum that would make perfect.
Well said, that there are people who genuinely join bitcointalk to get the knowledge of bitcoin and also there are some people who joined bitcointalk to make money.
But you didn't get a category of people who joined bitcointalk for passion and to teach people about bitcoin. This people are not wearing signature and they already know bitcoin, so we cannot say that they are learning. People like Franky1, DannyHamilton, Philipma1957, JayJuanGee etc. It's high time we began to appreciate these people.

You suggested of getting ride of bounty hunters? Why, is their existence threatening the peace of this forum? If they are harmless, let us accommodate everyone.
legendary
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In the good old days, i would have agreed 100%. Nowadays (well, the last several years), however, we do see an influx of so-called "bounty-hunters". People that spam twitter, facebook,... with promo for scam tokens just so the creator of said tokens gives them some of the total supply (if they're lucky).

Those people have 0 interest in participating and learning, they just need a space to spam their "bounty reports" so they can get 100 SHITTOKEN in the hope SHITTOKEN ever rises above 0.001 sat/SHITTOKEN.

If you open the patrol page, you can see for yourself that they represent a really big part of what is getting posted... Certainly more than 50% of all posts are made for the sole purpose of bounty hunting... On the other hand, it is very, very, rare to see a bounty hunter come over to the "good side". It is extremely rare that a bounty hunter ever participates in normal discussion, let alone learn something... It happens once in a blue moon, but those cases are really rare.
Exactly there is huge percentage of people who have the same perception of earning through bitcointalk without even knowing this was bitcoin and crypto oriented discussion forum created years back when was the golden period for it.There were so many threads in B&H section only few weeks back all seeking how to earn merits and money through the forum as they have been introduced it to that way.

Most of the bounty hunters joined with alt accounts to earn some shit tokens that are even not guaranteed will be able to sell them on exchange or not but only post on their social median accounts doing their promotion and hope for making more money but most turns out to be scam.So what's the fun of all this? The bounty reports are filled with hundreds of pages of application and submission so you see 6 out of 10 (rough example) join forum for Bounty campaigns.But they are not contributing to the forum in any manner and most of them limits their scope to that section only so not much of spam but there are some who will start writing up post without any relevant knowledge to rank up a little to join signature campaign of junior or full rank but fill that with spam posting.

We have seen some members who joined the forum with good motives of learning and contribution and the output is front of all they have grown up on the forum and I think that's the best way of growing.We have also joined signature campaign but are making some effective contributions also and taking it as discussion forum at priority basis.Learn and increase your knowledge and post only relevant things can help you to survive on the forum for long and your personal betterment.
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It’s a good way to build your network and share ideas and thoughts, listen to different perspectives and get a better understanding of how to start. It is also a good way to clear any doubts that may keep an individual from continuing their journey.
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Their is enough reasons to join bitcointalk.org. if it is about getting guild to help beginners in trading the forum is helpful. The forum is helpful for providing answers to questions concerning cryptocurrency related, the forum giving out the best value to e every member of the forum.  Their other good reasons why others join the forum.
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Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge. The zeal to make money has made many to learn more about bitcoin even if their main motive of joining the bitcointalk forum is to just make money to earn a living. They need to go on research and learn more about bitcoin in order to make qualitative and informative post to gain more merit in order to rank up and get higher pay in signatures they’re participating it. In other words, the knowledge gain can be shared with new members who come to the forum to ask about a particular thing they’re not so sure of.
Either ways, the motive of joining the forum has made many to still achieve the primary aim of why the group is created. To learn about the basics of bitcoin and how the market works plus mining.
it is a site that pays you to gain knowledge, quite interesting right?? And the sweet thing about it is that there's no negotiation towards that, you learn and you're paid too, so it's up to us to make good use of the opportunity.
newbie
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Because Bitcointalk is legit. Since I started to learn from this site, I get some impact. It a nice site that all for now.
hero member
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Even knowledge boils down to money.

full member
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Most people join this bitcointalk forun for just the money, there alot of Bounty hunter in this forum, most of them don't even set their foot in this beginners and help section because they don't really need to, and they end up having very little or NO knowledge about crypto currency.

I do not think that is true. Earning money from the forum is a way how users can use it. But there are users who use this forum mostly for knowledge gathering. It's a great place to know about community feedback about any crypto project or service.

If you think most people came here for bounty then I want to remind you that most of the account that post only on the bounty section is Alt account. There could be around 500-600 real users who work on different bounty projects. This is my personal opinion, not exact data.
member
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Most people join this bitcointalk forun for just the money, there alot of Bounty hunter in this forum, most of them don't even set their foot in this beginners and help section because they don't really need to, and they end up having very little or NO knowledge about crypto currency.
legendary
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However, there are those who join this forum because they are interested in crypto in general and want to learn something or simply want to get to know the local crypto community.

These are majorly the people who joined the forum when it was created newly and these are majorly developers and researchers. These persons were so passionate about bitcoin and wanted to propagate it. After those early members who were here before the advent of signature campaign and bounty, vast majority of late adopter came for the financial gain. Though not all, because when you go to the technical side of the forum, you will discover that some people landed here because of some bitcoin unanswered questions. Then, those persons leave when they have solutions and will only return when another difficult problem arises.

In all there is a balance between the knowledge driven and financial driven users, and that is the beauty of the forum.
legendary
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Unfortunately, I have to agree with most that many newbie members join this forum because of the earning potential.
However, there are those who join this forum because they are interested in crypto in general and want to learn something or simply want to get to know the local crypto community.
Also, there are already experienced crypto members who have started some crypto projects or companies and want to present their crypto services and products to the local or global crypto community.
We can't influence others and the reasons why someone joins this forum, but we can do our best to keep this forum high quality and informative for others, new members, and to attract new and interesting crypto projects.
If we succeed, this forum will continue to grow and remain relevant, and continue to attract new members.
hero member
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After 2017 there has been a huge influx of new users. A large portion of new users are bounty hunters and bots. There are a very few who are here to learn, discuss and share their knowledge. Lately bounty hunting is no longer as profitable as it was earlier those users who realize it become in active. These individuals go out and spread the negativity about crypto as they only joined this forum to make money. This is one of the biggest problem at the moment according to me.
newbie
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I first found out about the bitcointalk forum because I was browsing and finding out the history of bitcoin.

and the reason I joined the forum is because I want to participate in interacting with forum members while adding insight.

but of course for the future maybe I want to make money from this forum. although now I don't know much about it.
full member
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for now, I am not sure that most new members joining in this forum is to gain knowledge originally.
I am sure that most are interrsted in this forum because knowing from someone here that wr can make money from this forum. so, mostly, new members will focus in the results, moreover there are bounty hunters that are unstopable.
However, if there are sombody else that also interested in this forum because of the willingness to gain knowledge.
it is normal
hero member
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The zeal to make money has made many to learn more about bitcoin even if their main motive of joining the bitcointalk forum is to just make money to earn a living.
I don't think if their main motive just to earn money they're learn about Bitcoin, instead they're learn how to join bounties, how to hide using alt to cheat the bounties and how to fulfill the requirements with less effort. It's really wrong motive to think this forum only to earn money, they wouldn't care with forum... that's why altcoin discussion is messed up.

I see most people who joined signature campaign with Bitcoin payment aren't thought this forum is for money, but they're also care with forum and like to learn about Bitcoin, money is just a bonus for them.
The primary aim why we need to engage in bitcointalk forum is to learn and gained more knowledge about bitcoin, but only those who are paid with bitcoin can relate to this. Because if they can't be aware about bitcoin and the facts about it, they can't create good discussion on the given threads in the forum. Getting merits and having paid in bitcoin will definitely follow as a bonus. Otherwise, people come into the forum just to earn money and all they did is just spamming around without the intent of making the forum more relevant for others.
hero member
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Well, people had come and spent their time in here for something, and that is for learning purposes. But along that side, they had also known that they can earn money which makes them eager to join the forum. In fact, we see the existence of SCAMMERs here (that is obviously for money), joining bounties and signature campaigns.

Generally, people had come majority for the sake of earning money while they are learning. Only a few had come because they want to learn and know about crypto. That was my assessment.
sr. member
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Day by day, newcomers get to join us on the forum. The majority join based on what their friends told them about the forum on how they can make quick money from bounties by promoting projects. Because of what they are told, their whole attention and reasoning will be on how to make money from bounties, nothing else not minding the type of knowledge to get from the forum.
To make it right, I think we should start by telling our friends that btt is a forum to get the appropriate knowledge of crypto than telling them how to make money out of bounties. I believe by doing that, the whole concept of joining btt for only to make money would change to those that only join for the pay


legendary
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To be honest more than 90% of newbies joining to the forum for earning bounty stakes. Rest people joining learning purposes to gain knowledge. No matter most of them involve with earning later once they realize they could earn from here. But intention should learn purpose. Always couldn't earn from here anyway. But if we can learn from here, we would apply our skills in some other places. So may the door would open for us, but the conditions are experienced.

However, I am not blaming anyone, because nothing wrong with doing bounty or signature unless they spam on the forum. I have seen a couple of users leave bounty and start contributing to the forum when they realized the value of the forum. So day by day everyone would learn and behave themselves.
hero member
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Base on vast majority, I agree with you on the aspect that most people are now joining the forum for the purpose of earnings, which is a kinda being contrary to the major reason why the forum was being created, but that doesn't take away the fact that there are a lot of people too who genuinely joined the forum for the purpose of getting more information and education about Bitcoin . If there is a way to clamp down on those spamming Bounties in order to sanitize the furum that would make perfect.
sr. member
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I started becoming enthusiastic about cryptocurrency mid-last year because the project has seen a lot of people through journeys that end in their financial breakthrough, I know a lot of people in this category. Apart from the fact that I love to do research—to learn—the reward attached to studying and investing my time and money in cryptocurrency has played a major role in my commitment to the project, and it's not bad, just like you concluded your post, at the end, the purpose of the forum is been met, problems are been solved and people were determined to learn. The forum is serving it's purpose!
Well, the truth is that the forum become a source of income. It is found to be a solution for those who seek a job online.
Learning and earning, well, this is really how the forums serve it's purpose and I absolutely see that it helps a lot of members here.

Learning about trading, investing, joining paid campaigns...it simply talks about earning money. This even it gains more interest as to hear that many known personalities, rich people are already a part of this growing market.
hero member
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Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge. The zeal to make money has made many to learn more about bitcoin even if their main motive of joining the bitcointalk forum is to just make money to earn a living. They need to go on research and learn more about bitcoin in order to make qualitative and informative post to gain more merit in order to rank up and get higher pay in signatures they’re participating it. In other words, the knowledge gain can be shared with new members who come to the forum to ask about a particular thing they’re not so sure of.
Either ways, the motive of joining the forum has made many to still achieve the primary aim of why the group is created.

For sure before we go here we are searching for much reliable information about crypto and other project we search, we just discover how big the opportunity to anyone to earn here since there are so many projects offer some potential good cash to the people they recruit and I think this is one of the reason why this forum grows as many people goes here seek for opportunity that can possibly change their lives.
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I started becoming enthusiastic about cryptocurrency mid-last year because the project has seen a lot of people through journeys that end in their financial breakthrough, I know a lot of people in this category. Apart from the fact that I love to do research—to learn—the reward attached to studying and investing my time and money in cryptocurrency has played a major role in my commitment to the project, and it's not bad, just like you concluded your post, at the end, the purpose of the forum is been met, problems are been solved and people were determined to learn. The forum is serving it's purpose!
hero member
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Either ways, the motive of joining the forum has made many to still achieve the primary aim of why the group is created. To learn about the basics of bitcoin and how the market works plus mining.

I remember back in 2017, my friend convinced me to join this forum so I could learn more about cryptocurrencies as it is a topic which was touched upon in one of our subjects. I became quickly curious about its development and process- which somehow introduced an innovative idea behind our transactions under the so-called "blockchain."

I do realize that learning and knowing about cryptocurrencies is an edge and is something that I considered vital to the future. It just so happened that campaign signatures were a trend which gave an opportunity to people to be rewarded with BTC or any altcoins available, depending on the campaign.

Unfortunately, lots of newbies nowadays plague the forum spamming and creating threads which purport to be scams. In addition, lots of bounty campaigns have surfaced creating an influx of newbies joining bounty campaigns which somehow degrades the overall integrity of the forum.

Though I do understand that we have all our financial needs (especially to people living in third-world countries, including myself), it's just that people scamming one another is just truly unacceptable.
sr. member
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To enter the crypto world, of course, we need sufficient knowledge so that we can decide what to do and what to avoid. that's why we join in this forum. in addition to increasing knowledge, this forum also provides some information about bounties where it will be very useful for bounty hunters to get paid or money. so if we can study this forum and use it well then it will be profitable. sharing opinions with each other makes our minds more open, that's why this forum is very helpful because it consists of many members with different experiences and knowledge. in other words we can learn from various perceptions, it's just a matter of how we sort out good information or not good.
sr. member
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I come because of these things...
 1. Curiosity
 2. Learning some ideas
 3. Earning money

However, the most interesting part about crypto is how to earn money from here which obviously the most reason why people are coming. of course, it wasn't just designed for such a thing but aside from making some money here, it also imparts useful ideas which it was very beneficial to all of us.

Most people would be for the number 3 but the problem is they don't know how but I think most people who came here was just lured by someone to post something just for the sake of bounty hunting. And it does create a mess once they spam all over the place with one to two lines of post. It is rare to see someone stumbled upon on this forum just out of curiosity why they created an account and the others just wanted to read or report/complain/ask that they have been scammed by someone.
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I come because of these things...
 1. Curiosity
 2. Learning some ideas
 3. Earning money

However, the most interesting part about crypto is how to earn money from here which obviously the most reason why people are coming. of course, it wasn't just designed for such a thing but aside from making some money here, it also imparts useful ideas which it was very beneficial to all of us.
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At first it was for the Gambling section, then I discover an awesome community. You guys are amazing  Smiley
sr. member
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Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge. The zeal to make money has made many to learn more about bitcoin even if their main motive of joining the bitcointalk forum is to just make money to earn a living. They need to go on research and learn more about bitcoin in order to make qualitative and informative post to gain more merit in order to rank up and get higher pay in signatures they’re participating it. In other words, the knowledge gained can be shared with new members who come to the forum to ask about a particular thing they’re not so sure of.
Either way, the motive of joining the forum has made many to still achieve the primary aim of why the group is created. To learn about the basics of bitcoin and how the market works plus mining.
 
It seems gonna true about that and yes nowadays compared to the old days here in the bitcointalk forum is very far as it was in the past years people will join here in the forum to gain knowledge about bitcoins but now some people join here in the forum to gain money and start spamming all along.
But not all because some users will grow fast because of their hard work and dedication.
Knowledge and before earning is the best way to this forum.
hero member
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If it is to acquire bitcoin knowledge that makes people to join this forum, the population of this forum wouldn't have increased to the level it is now. Again, there also might be decrease in population at some points.
Take for instance;
If I join this forum to learn how to incrypt wallet, immediately I learnt that, I will exit the forum because I have achieved the purpose for which I am here.
Generally, the altcoins section for people looking for new projects, pump and dump etc is why people are here.
Also the bounty section for promoting projects
And the signature campaign.
These are some of the things that makes people join bitcointalk.
hero member
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Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge. The zeal to make money

As said, many will join only for money not for "money and knowledge", not realizing that without knowledge they'll mostly hunt for empty promises, wasting their time and earning nothing.

Even more, even the previous post has missed one more category: those hunting for money to be earned outside of the forum, spamming with links to various weak news sites or blogs, ref links to various platforms (most of them being scam).

Unfortunately the new ones seeking knowledge - with or without the added money - are fewer and fewer.
No one gets to learn and seek knowledge in crypto if there is no rewards waiting for it. Its by somehow a motivation for most of us. So we should be equipped with the basic knowledge and skills in crypto first before we start to invest and trade to make profits. But this is not happening for most of the newbies. They start to invest and trade first and when they start committing losses, that's when they decide to learn and study about crypto. And worst is, others decide to leave and quit crypto without considering to learn about crypto first.
legendary
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Waaaay back when I first joined, my main reason was to ask questions, participate in discussions, and learn stuff. It has worked out pretty well because it did allow me to get a lot better in the end. It is not an easy task so I have to say it would take a while before you can feel relax about writing here.

There are days when I do not want to participate, and there are weeks where I can't stop participating, so it is not really a one stop deal but at the same time everything about crypto that I learned, I first saw here which is a great deal. This is a great situation to be in for any crypto enthusiast because it allows you be in the center of crypto world.
mk4
legendary
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You have to look at it from the point of view of someone who has no skills, has no clue really about crypto,(other than moving tokens around) most likely comes from the country with low income and it's here solely for the purpose of making money. After all, bounty hunting is very low effort kind of "work" so why not, if you don't have any skills and you have some free time on your hands. And who knows, maybe they hit the mother lode, as they probably heard stories of some bounty hunters getting rich.

There are other far better things to do that doesn't require bachelor-levels of knowledge though; some only requires a decent amount of computer knowledge — probably like virtual assistants and customer support.

But I guess social media spamming is something that literally has almost zero barrier to entry compared to the things I've mentioned that requires people to apply for jobs. That's another topic, I guess.
legendary
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I can't for the life of me understand how a lot of people still join Bitcointalk solely for "bounty hunting" a.k.a. spamming on social media despite the fact that it's pretty much a total waste of time now. I'd understand if it was in 2017 where every obvious crap token pumped, but today? Nah.

That's probably the reason why compared to 2017, there's definitely much fewer bounty hunters today. I am not so sure, but it appears so. The incentive factor itself is enough reason why the 2017 bounty hunters would stop doing their old thing now. However, we can understand why some are still interested. In the first place, bots are used. So there's not much effort required in terms of the menial social media jobs and the reporting requirement here. They can afford to risk and join a lot of campaigns and probably be happy if there's 2 or 3 projects that ended up paying tokens that are not worthless.
sr. member
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when the genuine thread discussion on trending topic and project declines due to signature campaign, unfortunately the campaign does not reward as earlier done because members dont participate in crowdfund as before.
legendary
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Unfortunately, in recent years, many bounty hunters have joined only for money and not for knowledge. Sometimes, I wonder if all these bounty hunters are real people or just automated bots that fill out bounty reports? We have already uncovered a number of account farms, but I find it difficult to imagine that anyone would do all of this by hand when we know that the financial benefit is almost nonexistent.
legendary
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Tell me, why is a beginner who is interested in knowledge, merits, and ranks? But we regularly see those who teach from the first day, create "useful" topics, and seek merit. These people very foolishly decipher themselves and pretend to be sincerely seeking knowledge at a time when their motives are far from learning.
~snip~
I think most of them think Bitcointalk is a moneymaker with crypto. So far I have predated it, this is due to the doctrine of the members in new people. But so far I think there is a purely true seek knowledge regarding crypto. As far as I know this Forum, the development is very good, since the service system applies this forum looks more organized. So if they feel like being useful actually it doesn't matter, because indeed the forum educates them to be like that. After that there will certainly be bonuses from their efforts, (Signatures, bounty etc),I think it is a motive because the higher the rank and the quality of their posts is good then they will get that bonus.
legendary
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The thing that surprises me is how those managers talk all those altcoin projects into having bounty campaign. I would really like to be on a call when they persuade them that it is a must have and that thousands of illiterate lemmings will make the project look attractive to potential investors.
Potential investors don't seem swayed by the thousands of spam promotions on social media for new altcoin as they actually have their own reasons to invest private sale or initial sale when they are convinced about the great potential of the project. Many of them get information about the initial sale on other platforms outside bitcointalk, not social media and usually it's like coinlist or something.

So I think we all know what the real purpose of bounty hunters in this forum is and that's generally for money. It would be nice if they also care about the quality of the posts and are willing to contribute to the forum rather than just wanting to make money, so that they can get a double benefit where their knowledge can also increase about bitcoin or crypto in general.

legendary
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I can't for the life of me understand how a lot of people still join Bitcointalk solely for "bounty hunting" a.k.a. spamming on social media despite the fact that it's pretty much a total waste of time now. I'd understand if it was in 2017 where every obvious crap token pumped, but today? Nah.
You have to look at it from the point of view of someone who has no skills, has no clue really about crypto,(other than moving tokens around) most likely comes from the country with low income and it's here solely for the purpose of making money. After all, bounty hunting is very low effort kind of "work" so why not, if you don't have any skills and you have some free time on your hands. And who knows, maybe they hit the mother lode, as they probably heard stories of some bounty hunters getting rich.

The thing that surprises me is how those managers talk all those altcoin projects into having bounty campaign. I would really like to be on a call when they persuade them that it is a must have and that thousands of illiterate lemmings will make the project look attractive to potential investors.
legendary
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I've been wondering about the forum software / database size, though.
It's probably not that much. My inefficient collection of all kinds of data on loyce.club fills 250 GB now, with 17 million files. 211 GB of that is online. My posts archive fills 142 GB, and I know it would take up less disk space if I would use a database instead of millions of files.

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Does the forum just have so many BTC in reserve that it doesn't matter?
With 1250BTC, I don't think a couple hundred GB server storage matters much. The Bitcoin blockchain is bigger.
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Reason why people join Bitcointalk it's all about money and knowledge, in this life some people have money but  they don't know how to invest to make profit, joining bitcointalk give them knowledge of how to make profit with what they have. Well on the other hand some people join bitcointalk to make money and to start investment.
legendary
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For real, people are advertising even on the T19 Multisig wallet. Roll Eyes
Theymos has been spared, though!

I was curious about why that would be, but no, he just moved the coins to a new one last year when that topic was edited, seems like the multisig participants have been changed too.
This is the old one:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/19XTo6BHpPHSkW5cm183VrgEYpGjVJmQEt
same nonsense spam there too.

Wow, 1250BTC, still untouched. Makes me wonder how he pays for the infrastructure.

Ads probably, I know theymos banned ICO a while ago when they were offering huge amounts for ad space so judging by the sums he refused the current one sare still enough to keep the forum running and the mods paid.
legendary
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Today, many have learned to recognize real beginners who are interested in bitcoin, and they came to the forum to replenish their knowledge, or as beginners seeking money.
Tell me, why is a beginner who is interested in knowledge, merits, and ranks? But we regularly see those who teach from the first day, create "useful" topics, and seek merit. These people very foolishly decipher themselves and pretend to be sincerely seeking knowledge at a time when their motives are far from learning.
And the second point, we are sincerely surprised when people appear on the forum who hear for the first time that here you can not only communicate on topics about cryptocurrencies but also earn something. Here they can really become valuable for the forum.
hero member
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Cough cough, million-dollar forum software to be released, 1250 BTC in forum funds still untouched, server costs won't be a problem for a while.  Wink
Wow, 1250BTC, still untouched. Makes me wonder how he pays for the infrastructure.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/forum-funds-155000

For real, people are advertising even on the T19 Multisig wallet. Roll Eyes
Theymos has been spared, though!
mk4
legendary
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I can't for the life of me understand how a lot of people still join Bitcointalk solely for "bounty hunting" a.k.a. spamming on social media despite the fact that it's pretty much a total waste of time now. I'd understand if it was in 2017 where every obvious crap token pumped, but today? Nah.
legendary
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Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge.

Actually, it is more like money than knowledge on how to make money, a bit of trolling and scamming, and then right at the back just knowledge and completely disinterested in money, and unfortunately the last group is also inmost cases made out of people who are already well off financially or they would be included in the first two groups. Let's just not fool ourselves anymore, it's not healthy!

I've been wondering about the forum software / database size, though. If it's really filled 50% by spam that has no other use than earning someone a fraction of a penny and advertising someone else's 10,000th 'next Bitcoin' token, it means theymos could cut his server costs by half if those posts were deleted, right?
Does the forum just have so many BTC in reserve that it doesn't matter?

Cough cough, million-dollar forum software to be released, 1250 BTC in forum funds still untouched, server costs won't be a problem for a while.  Wink


hero member
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Cannot be sure if the reason is the same for anyone who joins the forum, bitcointalk is the most famous and oldest bitcoin ralted forum and sure anyone whos active in this market and field probably joined this forum and at least visited this forum, a few years ago people were joining this forum for their technical questions and getting familiar with bitcoin, also that's a good place for bitcoiners to stay in one place and discuss bitcoin-related news together, but for some other people, they join the forum to earn some money from the county campaigns.
legendary
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If it's really filled 50% by spam that has no other use than earning someone a fraction of a penny and advertising someone else's 10,000th 'next Bitcoin' token, it means theymos could cut his server costs by half if those posts were deleted, right?
Loycev.club and Ninjastic.space would certainly. As you said, I have no worries judging by the forum's reserves. Tongue

What are your thoughts on this?
That opens up a long discussion. I was also interesting in tackling the spam, but this forum is known for the freedom it seeks. Cutting off the bounties must have been one of the most much-discussed topics in Meta.

In summary, that's why:
The things on the forum which encourage spam are allowed mainly because it's part of the forum's mission to be as free as possible. Eg. banning bounties would undoubtedly reduce spam, but that'd be destroying an entire economy/population/culture which has been able to develop due to the forum's freedom.
hero member
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April 06, 2022, 06:12:14 AM
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Unfortunately the new ones seeking knowledge - with or without the added money - are fewer and fewer.
That's true, and I can easily say that I was one of those. I came with many questions, grasped the concept, liked the idea and then saw there's this thing called "signature campaign" which attracted me. And it works. People are encouraged to help others learn, because they earn a few bucks by doing it. And newcomers do actually learn!
I've been wondering about the forum software / database size, though. If it's really filled 50% by spam that has no other use than earning someone a fraction of a penny and advertising someone else's 10,000th 'next Bitcoin' token, it means theymos could cut his server costs by half if those posts were deleted, right?
Does the forum just have so many BTC in reserve that it doesn't matter?
I think there is a distinction to be made between signature campaigns and bounties, because signatures don't add extra bloat 'per se', while bounties require people to actively campaign / advertise on here and on other platforms (if I understand them correctly). There could also be rules in place like 'signature campaigns have to be paid in BTC' or something similar, to prevent the obvious rip-off campaigns that don't even intend to pay people, which probably do 'spam' the most, though (need multiple posts to get $1 worth).
What are your thoughts on this? I just don't know enough about all these campaigns and bounties and whatnot, because every time I click a subforum that is filled with emojis, all caps and exclamation marks in the titles, I close it right away. Wink
legendary
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April 06, 2022, 05:56:24 AM
#8
The zeal to make money has made many to learn more about bitcoin even if their main motive of joining the bitcointalk forum is to just make money to earn a living.
I don't think if their main motive just to earn money they're learn about Bitcoin, instead they're learn how to join bounties, how to hide using alt to cheat the bounties and how to fulfill the requirements with less effort. It's really wrong motive to think this forum only to earn money, they wouldn't care with forum... that's why altcoin discussion is messed up.

I see most people who joined signature campaign with Bitcoin payment aren't thought this forum is for money, but they're also care with forum and like to learn about Bitcoin, money is just a bonus for them.
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April 06, 2022, 05:37:38 AM
#7
Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge.

I think this dominate the major reasons we all are here except for little percentage of those that purposely come to give to the forum, such members never mind or care about joining any campaign but rather remained active and derived pleasure in seeing problems solved on the forum through their influence.

The zeal to make money has made many to learn more about bitcoin even if their main motive of joining the bitcointalk forum is to just make money to earn a living.

Yes that's true, no one want to invest or waste money on what really don't worth it, take a look at the social media chats people engage doing on a daily basis where freedom has been abused as everyone talk about what he likes with any guiding etiquettes to caution, and you can see that no cognate incentive coming out from it except on few cases which can be tasking enough.

People derived pleasure in value and can go extra miles in paying for such while appreciating quality efforts, same is applicable here on the forum, you can't post anyhow here because here is not a playing ground but rather a community known for professional qualities and standard.
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April 06, 2022, 04:21:59 AM
#6
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If you open Show unread posts since last visit., hit CTRL+F and enter bounty, you would see that bounty topics are taking if not dominant part of new posts, but significant.
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In number of posts, maybe they are not dominant... In absolute number of posts, i'm pretty sure they are.

It has been a long time since i actually counted, but for this post, i just opened the patrol page to see what new users are doing on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;patrol

1 complaint about a gambling deposit
1 job offer
1 question about escrow services
1 russian post i couldn't understand
1 discussion about crowfunding
1 post in snowshow's trolling thread
194 bounty reports


Now, these are newbie posts, but they do represent a big majority of bitcointalk's active population... So odds are that those posts are dominant, they are just located in a low number of bounty hunter threads, and most of these threads are located in subforum's mosts of us will probably have on ignore...

EDIT: i know this isn't 100% accurate, if we wanted to be sure we'd have to manually browse trough the last 100 new msg id's and tally.
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April 06, 2022, 04:15:38 AM
#5
Unfortunately the new ones seeking knowledge - with or without the added money - are fewer and fewer.
That's true, and I can easily say that I was one of those. I came with many questions, grasped the concept, liked the idea and then saw there's this thing called "signature campaign" which attracted me. And it works. People are encouraged to help others learn, because they earn a few bucks by doing it. And newcomers do actually learn!

I haven't seen this happening elsewhere. Maybe this forum distinguishes somehow. Or perhaps the incentive of the network effect is one of the many key aspects of this ingenious technology.
legendary
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April 06, 2022, 04:10:08 AM
#4
I agree with mocacinno. At first people joined bitcointalk to get cryptocurrency related knowledge. Now, it has become a platform to test luck in "winning few dollars from a bounty".
If you open Show unread posts since last visit., hit CTRL+F and enter bounty, you would see that bounty topics are taking if not dominant part of new posts, but significant. Even merit system, new bounty rules, increased number of scam and decreased bounty pools wont help to reduce amount of bounty related posts on the forum. Bitcointalk is a Bitcoin forum and crypto forum that is a key source of information related to blockchain, cryptocurrency and Bitcoin turned into earning platform.
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April 06, 2022, 04:05:45 AM
#3
Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge. The zeal to make money

As said, many will join only for money not for "money and knowledge", not realizing that without knowledge they'll mostly hunt for empty promises, wasting their time and earning nothing.

Even more, even the previous post has missed one more category: those hunting for money to be earned outside of the forum, spamming with links to various weak news sites or blogs, ref links to various platforms (most of them being scam).

Unfortunately the new ones seeking knowledge - with or without the added money - are fewer and fewer.
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April 06, 2022, 03:59:26 AM
#2
In the good old days, i would have agreed 100%. Nowadays (well, the last several years), however, we do see an influx of so-called "bounty-hunters". People that spam twitter, facebook,... with promo for scam tokens just so the creator of said tokens gives them some of the total supply (if they're lucky).

Those people have 0 interest in participating and learning, they just need a space to spam their "bounty reports" so they can get 100 SHITTOKEN in the hope SHITTOKEN ever rises above 0.001 sat/SHITTOKEN.

If you open the patrol page, you can see for yourself that they represent a really big part of what is getting posted... Certainly more than 50% of all posts are made for the sole purpose of bounty hunting... On the other hand, it is very, very, rare to see a bounty hunter come over to the "good side". It is extremely rare that a bounty hunter ever participates in normal discussion, let alone learn something... It happens once in a blue moon, but those cases are really rare.
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April 06, 2022, 03:52:37 AM
#1
Some more numbers of people join bitcointalk forum for one or two reasons, to gain knowledge or for both the money and the knowledge. The zeal to make money has made many to learn more about bitcoin even if their main motive of joining the bitcointalk forum is to just make money to earn a living. They need to go on research and learn more about bitcoin in order to make qualitative and informative post to gain more merit in order to rank up and get higher pay in signatures they’re participating it. In other words, the knowledge gain can be shared with new members who come to the forum to ask about a particular thing they’re not so sure of.
Either ways, the motive of joining the forum has made many to still achieve the primary aim of why the group is created. To learn about the basics of bitcoin and how the market works plus mining.
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