Topic: The role of political and religious leaders in the society. (Read 228 times)

Governance is not about religion but to implement the right policies for the benefit of all the people and to be sure this policy and rule of law work properly, it has to be backed with institutions that are not biase. Institutions make governance to reach even the poor of the poor because it protects everyone's right under the law but just being religious as a leader, you are going to be biase in the policies you implement, you will like to favour your religious minds and therefore the government will be a charade and nepotism, favouritism will be the other of the day.

When you talk of management of funds then you are talking of country policy, if a country doesn't have a policy anybody that becomes one of the government cabinet will have the mindset of embezzlement of funds and its not matters of religion, because a religion is not all about a country policy and governance, so people and leaders misunderstood leadership in government, leader is a public servant who only catter for the affairs of his or her people not for the particular religion they belong to. If leaders work according to religion they will be biase and they will be segmental to her citizen

They both play important roles in society, but political leaders are more powerful than religious leaders. When citizens resist laws that contradict the teachings of religion leaders, they only submit to it because of how people follow those religious leaders and can do and undo for their purpose. Otherwise, political leaders have the final say in society.


This is fine, and I completely agree when such situations arise. The way you dress to go somewhere determines how you are addressed. In a culture where morals are valued, such behaviour from a political leader will not be tolerated in the name of civilisation or trend. The leaders must be modest in everything they do since they are the pillar the society are looking up to.


This can only occur in a country where religious practise is taught and practised. It has to do with their religious beliefs. In a society where all of this is not practised, I don't believe political leaders will have a problem with the masses when a law is made to be observed.

Such highly religious countries end up being very corrupt. Their leaders embezzle money meant for the people, they are only mindful of their immediate family. Like you have rightly said those countries that are not dwelling on the side of religion are doing good because the people will go on the streets if those in leadership positions do not deliver promises they made during elections and if they don't provide good leadership and overall proper and accountable governance. But citizens of religious countries can't stand up to their government and force them to step down in their bad leadership but to all pray for help from God. Religion is the opion of the masses like Karl Marx maintained and this is peculiar to the religious countries.

It is religious leaders that should be listened to by the people more than politicians because the religious leaders will make sure that its people are been directed in the right way that there will be equality in the society and how one can live a holy life that will add value to the economy, because the people can have trust in them more than in the political leaders.

It is a pity today that most religious leaders are not doing the right thing because it is not all of them that was called by God to become his servant. In my country, this has been a big problem as every day we see new churches, and this is making the people to be confused with these religious leaders and their directives. Some religious leaders are after money and they even go to the politicians for money which made them to have low voice in guiding the people on what to do that is right, because the love of money is making them not to be truthful and to do the right thing.

This might not be happening in other countries, but it is happening in my country, religious leaders have given their right to politicians and there is nothing that they can tell people to do that majority will listen to them.

Religion and politics should be separate. You can look at Iran if you want to see what religious leaders can do in a country if allowed to roam free for a few decades.
Usually countries where trust in religion is very high, like in Muslim countries, end up being poorer, less technologically advanced and more bound by rules. People lose too much time praying to gods that never help them in any way instead of learning, working and spending time with their families. We all make our own choices though, so if they want to do it I'm not going to be the one to tell them otherwise.

I will try to dissect the role of political and religious leaders in this matter a little according to my capacity. Firstly, I consider the role of political leadership in this case to be state officials. they have extraordinary influence in influencing the society they lead, with their policies and power they are able to create anything through their political movements with adequate access and funds. such as creating an issue that makes an epidemic worse, which causes people to be more wary of what they buy and consume, which results in increased or even decreased public health conditions due to excessive anxiety.

Another thing is the influence of religion in society, religion can be stronger than political movements in terms of group solidarity. There are many cases in this regard, some produce movements and others produce lifestyles in society.

Furthermore, everything I am trying to explain goes back to the aims and objectives that are used as a basis for politics and religion.

The truth is that,  the political leader as the Constitutional government have much more role to play in the society more then religion because the system is aware of the the diversities in religion and for that every religion have their own law and ways to practice them and this could be contraditing to the government laws and this particular area is made provisioned for in the constitution of my country which give the total power to the government to commend whatsoever law their deem fit for the society and all religion must adhere to such laws.

Religion is closer to the people no doubt but government is much more closer to the people since it presence can be felt by all and also must be approached with total compliance by every citizens.

I agree with you that the religious leaders are closer to the people and the people also include those in government because they also have a religion where they belong and should practice what they hear from the bible through the religious leaders and even when they study the bible themselves. I think the bulk of the challenge should come from the religious leaders because even in the past and the bible history, the religious leaders were also found to be disobedient to God, they gambled in the synagogue and did all sort of things and no wonder the bible said judgement will start of the religious houses meaning they should teach the proper and moral ways of life, follow it up by their moral actions and not to collect bribes and feel God will always forgive. The religious bodies need to cleance itself up before the society will work in good light.

I did not understand the similarity between your thesis and the idea of choosing the opinions of clerics. According to my belief, both the politician and the cleric practice politics, and most of the time they are in complete agreement, since each of them serves the other’s interests in one way or another.
To note, when we say a politician, this does not only mean those in power, because the opposition can also support itself by appointing a cleric.

With the exception of some modern democracies, the cleric has his weight in society, regardless of the nature of the government. The matter usually does not depend on the will of the people themselves, but rather on the will of the politician to where he wants to direct public opinion.

For there to be peace, harmony and development in a country,  both the political and religious leaders should work in tandem. They both need to agree on common grounds and this is why there must be meetings or fellowship between the government and the religious leaders.

The religious leaders are closer to the people than the government is. This is because the religious leaders admonishes with the scriptures and they claim that the consequences of violating the laws is spiritual and everlasting, which why the people fear them most even when they do not enforce with arms.
However, there is a government who unifies incase there more than one type of religion in the country.

Although with the toughness of life these days, our country is a free country and we've got democracy in here. It just so happens that there a lot of corrupt politicians that are even being idolized by the masses. We have the separation of church and state but the politicians are also going with the religious leaders every time there's an election because of what they implement inside their churches and that's block voting.
What I just like is that our government respects each religions that are in our country but when there's something wrong that's being done by a church or a religious leader, they're scrutinized just like the hot issue that's happening here.
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If religious leaders are truly religious, the people won't really have any problem with how they handle and manage their country because they know, they won't gonna be unjust to them and they will fulfill their rights. Look how the Arab countries prosper, that's because their leaders know how to use their funds to improve their countries the right way. they don't publicize all their donations and they are doing their work to make their countries improve and keep up with the other top countries at the same time, they are fulfilling the rights of their Citizens and they are taking care of them.

It has to do with the interest of the leaders. I believe, like my religion, every other religion is up to date with the contemporary world today, in other words, the religions are aware of the future and have made provisions for such eras in their scriptures. This is to say that, whether we are in democracy or otherwise, or in a first, second or even third world country, every true religion is indiscriminate of any of those and have created guidance on how its believers can live a life in such climes. For instance, in the ancient times, there's practically no dresses or such that will cover one's nakedness, regardless, the religions have identified and made rulings to those people. Now that there's enough garments to sow clothes with, there's also rulings made to it's effect and that goes round every aspect of human life.

I believe if you find differences between the political and religious leaders that have escalated to conflicts and crisis, there's a pursuit of personal interest in it.

The religious leaders are suppose to be good decider for the growth of the country because of their place in the society. Both the civilian and politicians are under the voice and respect of the religious leaders even the holy books give so much direction to them and by saying the people rejoice when the righteous is on the throne meaning they are suppose to do the right thing but whether they have done the right things is questionable and another argument entirely. Even those who hold religious offices who have found themselves in political offices have turned total politicians with impunity as it is with the ordinary politicians.

There have been many submissions that religious leaders have not played adequate role to lead politicians into doing the right things because some religious leaders are just answering whatever religious name ascribed to the office without really doing the work of God and so they also deceive the people which the politicians are part of the people. Most religious leaders are interested in what comes to them in tithe and offering so that even when a politician embezzle money from the community, he offers tithe and offering and the community is left to suffer.

In today's society it has become such that we don't try to take decisions made by political leaders or religious leaders only when they are in our interest and not in our interest We declare rebellion that is the biggest problem in the present social order.
There is some difference with the political and religious leaders of the society because the political issues clash with the religious in some cases and those who give more priority to the religion do not follow the decision of the religion.Then there was a conflict with the political leaders
***But we should believe in the same principle of religious and political leaders then we can accept whatever decision they give without looking at it, but now there is a big difference between the two leaders. The current social conflicts are rooted in the dogma of political and religious leaders and as a result of these conflicts the problem is shifting from national to international level.People are more interested in religious aspects than political aspects, nowadays, political leaders make various schemes just for survival which serve themselves more than serving the state and then hold on There is a conflict with religion, so both the leaders should lead the society by doing right and welfare work. At present, some religious leaders have also started religion business for the sake of various advantages and this religion business The result is chaos in the society which is spreading from one state to another only for hypocritical decisions.
*That is why political leaders have to think about people's opinion before making decisions and religious leaders have to try to accept the decisions in the light of religion and these two leaders have many Works is for society we should help them, and we can get a lot of good from them, they act as our guide these two leaders are very important for a country society and state They do important work by removing conflicts in the society, doing social welfare work, imparting knowledge about social security, working in the field of education, working for social security, working as policymakers of the society.Acting as a social mobilizer takes the society to a higher level and helps people to learn morals and values ​​and many more.

Religious & political leaders play big roles in society, each with huge responsibilities. Religious leaders guide & inspire their communities fostering spiritual growth, providing moral guidance & promoting peace & unity. They serve as a source of wisdom offering support during challenging times & promoting compassion & understanding among their followers.

Political leaders are responsible for governing & managing the affairs of the state. They make decisions that affect the welfare & progress of society aiming to create a just & harmonious environment. Political leaders represent the interests of their constituents, develop policies & work towards social & economic development. Both religious & political leaders have the power to influence & shape society, their roles are integral in maintaining a harmonious & balanced community.

It reminds me the sepoy revolt in India, when the army of the Eastern Indias company had to battle against those who felt deceived by the company regarding the alleged content of pork lard on the ammo the sepoys had to bite in order to charge their weapons.

The rebellion had almost as many religious implications as political ones, and religious leaders were as important as those in politics for the rebellion to ensue.

Regardless on what one believe on religion or politics, all positive leaders are supposed to bring peace and order onto the people of a country, the problem appears when both religion and centralized politics have a very different view on what peace, law and order is supposed to be or look like.

It does not take much to realize that while following the news from the United States, for example.

Or even India, where the Struggle between religious factions is pretty real and violent.

If you were a girl and you want to have a boyfriend, which one you choose?

1. Good looking, rich, have many business, traveled in many countries, own many sport cars and respected by every people, or;
2. Ugly, poor, work in McDonald, never travel, don't own any car, and get bullied by many people.

Don't need to answer, I'm 100000% sure you will choose the first one. Then what's the relation with your topic? every people think if someone looks religious is a good person e.g. using religious cloth and always mention about scripture in every subject he talk.

The decisions and affairs of most societies are indeed made by either the religious leader or the political leaders, there are cases where some decisions that were made by some political leaders would be protested by the populace because it doesn't fit well with the laws and beliefs set up by some religious leaders bringing anarchy, and problems to the society.

There are instances when a general dress code would be issued by the government to be worn for certain occasions but because it doesn't go in line with some religious beliefs, there is a show of rebellion towards the political leaders just to obey the religious leader.

The truth is, that the two sets of leaders play a great role in shaping the society and in times when conflict might arise in the society and the citizenry might not give a listening hear to the political leaders, the religious leaders become the immediate alternate that can calm the citizens down