Topic: The role of women in society (Read 440 times)

I'm locking down the thread due to the lack of interesting answers. There was either coin4commies simply yelling "opression" and SJW stuffs and other people answering shit like "women are the builders of nations" probably just shit sig spamming.

If anyone has anything interesting to say I'd say you should open another thread.

  You mean to tell me a woman's role isn't to bring me my beer and a sandwich?   Go figure... (jokes)
All jokes aside, I think women are here to help with procreation, it is the only reason we probably put up with the selfishness and headaches. According to "Logans Run", the womb will be replaced by an exterior artificial substitute, thus resulting in better manageable births. In fact, they will probably advertise it as a new way for a woman to keep their girlish figure. What women wouldn't want that lol? With the rate that A.I is accelerating, we'll all (Man, Woman, Whatever gender) will probably be screwing Lovebots anyway.  

I think the relationship and interaction between a man and a woman depends on where a man and a woman live.Different countries have their own traditions and customs as well as the standard of living.If in a rich country in the family enough to work only a man, in a poor country to somehow live need to work both.This is not fiction it is reality.In my country, women have the same rights and opportunities as men.There is absolutely no discrimination.I believe that the role of women as well as men in society is the same.

Men suffer, too. Consider Guantanamo. But...

They are made to work together. The woman has greater staying power. But she is built to have children. No children except that a woman supports her man. No children means she is deprived of the major thing she is built for.

Strength for man if man supports woman. Why? The woman will support the man back, better than he could do it himself. But she will do it because it is part of her design to have and grow children... with the man.

Yeah, that's a clear point.
For me, a man is a bear from Jungle Book, but the woman is like pantera. She isn't weak. By no means. She knows what is a pain. She gives birth to children and suffers from other women things. She is very strong. But a man is weak, clumsy and lazy. Man gets scared and leaves, like newbies at crypto space being scared of Bitcoin price movements.

^^^ Are you sure that women are weaker? Look at the chess game.

In chess, the queen is stronger than the king. She has more maneuverability and capturing power. She can move many places in one move, but the king can only move one square at a time.

Yet the only way the queen is stronger is if she lends her strength to protecting her king. If she doesn't protect her king, and he is taken, she is destroyed as well, and the game is lost.

Same in life.

The role of woman is to have children to maintain generation. They weaker than man so they often do housework, spend more time for family, take care of babies. Not surprise that they was awarded by high salary, less time shift, high respect,....

That's true.
Regarding the crypto industry, we need women a lot. Women are economic and systematic, they will put in order all the chaos we facing at crypto.

A woman is a life carrier,a giver and a developer of the society and the nation .

Women and men are two different species because they both have different characteristics and pattern of behavior while the man is consider as the super power of the world that is why the world if referred to ad the men world. Women are considered to be second class citizens of the world.

you should have added the ‘physical ‘aspect since man and woman are also has a big difference from this,but you are right about all the terms you’ve mentioned,in some countries woman also became a president things that only male has a dominance for long time

I know I'm going to get flack for this, but...



 

Women are nation builder, theybare the first point of training and development for a child,which tend to have an impact on the larger society, there is a revolution now, women have to work in order to augumemt the economy of the family unlike in time past where only men work to fend for the family.

Let's take all the men's rights off and will see what happens...

Women are critical in our general public. Each lady has her own activity or obligation in this advanced society in which men are as yet the 'most grounded sex .We can't overlook such ladies' reality is significantly more muddled than a man's life. A lady needs to deal with her very own life and in the event that she is a mother , she needs to take care likewise about her youngsters' life as well. Marriaged ladies have loads of stresses and trust it or not , they complete a more stressfull life than marriaged men. I am certain my remark could be acknowledged by the majority of the general population living in a comparable society.

i wonder, when we will reach the moment of human history in which women will run their own all female state, maybe they could start with a city state.

The role of women in our world is not the same as it is presented today by many. Yes, women began to work more, bring a lot of money to the house, to succeed in work and business.  But I believe that the main task of women should be the arrangement of heat and hearth in the house.

Now our understanding of these things ^^^ is that they are so complex that we have no real clue as to how they work.

it's the 21st century and we're still discussing this.  i asked my mom this question and she simply said "women ought to teach men who are idiots in society to behave like humans!" and that is of course after rolling her eyes. 

Most point to the 1960s for the birth of brain science, neuropsychology.  Before that, our understanding of the brain was simply mechanical. 

In the past, before, say, the 1940s, gender meant biological sex. How many millions of years did it take us to change the meaning of gender? Perhaps we aren't human anymore.

OP has conflated gender with biological sex.  Gender psychological social construct which doesn't mean it isn't natural, humans have always lived in societies with social constructs, but it is not biological like sex. The thing about sex is that it *usually manifests in a very simple, binary way.  Men have penises and women have vaginas and can bear children.  People see this and it is simple so they understandibly project this simplicity onto gender. 

The problem is that the variation in human brains and the psychology between individuals is much more diverse than the variation between the bodies of each person.  Every male (usually) has a penis but when you talk about gender characteristics there is going to be a wide variation with a lot of overlap between men and women.  The most "masculine" woman is going to have far more "manly" gender traits than the most "feminine" man and vice versa.  For this reason, gender as a social construct ends up causing more harm than good.  Many men are better suited to cook and raise children than many women and many women are better suited for hard labor than many men.

Societal rules based on broad gender averages is oppression of those in the standard deviation.

Women are the glue that holds the societies together.

Without women, our species would not exist.

There are many biological differences between the sexes and that is why we have inequalities.

I am a man, but I see we are emotional simpletons when compared with women.

When women want to insult each other they can do it all day long in front of men and men would know even know it.

Men are impatient, want the stuff now, are more of a go-getter regardless of the consequences.  Women will think a lot longer before making any decisions.  Have you ever went shopping with your wife or girlfriend?

Most men are manipulated by women because we are idiots who are just good with numbers and have no clue we are being manipulated.

The role of women in the society can never be underestimated, meaning what a man can do, a woman can even do it more better....... So whatever u can think of a man role in the society, a woman fit in too perfectly.

The basic role of women is to have children.

Society leaders are trying to make society into a nanny state, where the women have to work outside the home just to support the children. They do this to push society towards Communism, where the leaders will indoctrinate the children to obey their will. With both parents at work, they can do this much easier.

It is being done through the fiat debt money system, where inflation robs everyone of value... so that the women have to leave the home to help support the family, financially.

If people understood this, and used the blockchain and Bitcoin properly, they could get rid of all but the tiniest bit of inflation. People would retain value, and the women could go back home.

Biologically and socially, men and women are different.

However in terms of rights, freedom, salaries, job opportunities etc. they should be the same.

This thread is more general so I felt like a new one was a good thing.

Who's feeling threatened? I'm not.
Just saying deciding to get rid of gender specifications means getting rid of genders in the end. You can't keep men and women without equalities because that's why there are men and women. That's all i'm saying.

You could have easily posted this in that thread. I suppose now TECHSHARE will make another as well. I might reply later but otherwise I stand by my opinion in the original thread. I am someone who observes things for how they are and is able to see my own priviledge without feeling threatened by someone else's fight for equality.

Hello everyone.

This thread has been running in my mind for quite some times but after the answer of dogtana to TECSHARE I've thought it could be a good timing to share my 2 cents on the subject:


The idea that inequalities (whatever they can be) between men and women are from social construct is widely spread and accepted in the population. If you're not saying that inequalities exist and that they are only from how society treats men and women differently, you're mostly seen as a mysoginistic conservative.

First of all let's say that if you don't accept that there are tons of inequalities between men and women and that social influences are important factors, you're not mygoninistic, you're stupid. Thousands of different experiments all led to the same results: some kind of behaviour are encouraged or discouraged on individuals because of there sex. A girl must be quiet and submissive, a man must be aggressive and strong. That's not a question, that's a well established fact that can only be denied if you refuse psycology and sociology as science which makes you an idiot.

The problem is... No scientist actually said that inequalities between genders are the result of social pressures. They're saying social pressures cause inequalities between gender... Not the other way around. How can anyone say that all the inequalities are only the consequence of social pressures?
Tons of animals (especially insects) have 2 genders with little to no difference between the male and female from a physical or genetical point of view. This is not the case of humans, nature has clearly given us distinct physical abilities and attributes and whatever some people say, from a statistically point of view you can always distinguish a male from a female at first glance.

This means nature and evolution have made specialized organism, male and female, as the best way to adapt ourselves to our environment. We have evolved for millions of years as specialized individuals. How can anyone say it made no or little impact?
Women and men serve different purposes. Aggressivness and violence as well as physical strength are more important in male organism because their purpose was to fight. Submission and calm behaviour are important to female because their purpose was to breed. A male can easily be replaced and used by different females for reproduction while a woman is a incubator taking 9 months to create next generation.

Saying that we have no "pre determined roles" is stupid. Of course we have. How could those millions of years of specialization lead to nothing? Social pressure is NOT the only factor leading to inequalities between genders, we ARE inequals.


That being said, natural things aren't always good things and I have no trouble with people saying we should get rid of those inequalities. Why not? Maybe it's a good thing.
But getting rid of gender inequalities mean getting rid of genders because without gender specialization, what's the point of having two genders?

That might be a good thing? I don't know. Who could know?

But don't just say it's a social thing, those inequalities are fundamentals to our evolution. You can completely thing they must disappear because they have become useless sure. But don't forget getting rid of them means no long men and women but just humans.

I don't want that.