Topic: The Rothschilds have quadrupled their stake in BTC since April (Read 300 times)

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Thanks and H/Ts to alert members tyz and jaysabi for catching that the NAME of the investment firm is apparently unrelated to the Rothschild family.

I'll lock the thread.

Nope. Not what this is. This is not Rothschild money. Rothschild Investment Corp is a registered investment adviser. They manage money for retail investors. This report means absolutely zero as to the actual Rothschild family investment portfolio.

We're all just depending to the news.

Just like how the mainstream media highlights, this popular guy holds bitcoin. This expert owns massive amount of bitcoin. So if they got an insider even if it's just a rumor, they'll make a content from it and publish it as soon as possible.

They're all wanting to be the first to let the world know about certain news.

It is good news for us, but the title is misleading. In percentage terms, 300% is a very big amount. But the new purchase amounts to 310,000 shares of GBTC, or equivalent to BTC310 (around $9 million). It is minuscule when compared to the purchase by Tesla (around BTC30,000, amounting for $1.5 billion at that time). Rothschild Investment Corp has assets worth billions of USD, and this new purchase represents a tiny fraction of their overall portfolio. But the intention needs to be lauded, because Rothschild is so deeply entrenched with the fiat economy.

Interestingly, which would actually mean that they have nothing to do with the investment in BTC, and even if they do, the news is not worth mentioning given that it is just a little over 100 BTC. There are thousands of wealthy families and individuals, and who cares what they do with their money - the only constant is that they never have enough money - and remember that the more they take, the less is left for us ordinary mortals.

It would be very good if they were uninterested for at least another 5 years, and when they realize what they missed, people may not even want to sell their BTC anymore. Imagine the situation there somewhere 203x, a newspaper article says that the Rothschilds want to buy BTC and no one wants to sell - then you contact them and give them an offer of say $100 million for 1 BTC, but only to change your mind at the last minute - priceless

It's not just that but they are also one of the oldest family in Europe meaning that they have a really deep influence in many countries because they mainly operate on banks.

It is good news I rekon, however any move by the "1% of the 1%" must be taken cautiously. One of the key rules these families and individuals use is to diversify their investments. As you said, they own stuff of all shorts and all over. Most of is seems to be real state, stocks and the category of alternative assets. Within this category is bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin offers scarcity, while ethereum is offering a future yield.

The fact is that these large fortunes can afford to bet and go wrong while many of us cannot. Still, a good thing that they want to bet on crypto even if it is just a tiny fraction of their massive wealth and assets.

I have to add something to my post from yesterday. I did a little research and came across the fact that the Rothschild Investment Corporation bears the Rothschild name but has nothing to do with the family anymore.
The Rothschild Investment Corporation was founded in 1908 by Monroe Rothschild, but is no longer part of the family's banking and financial empire. You can find this out if you dig a little deeper but also Cointelegraph stress this in its article:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/rothschild-investment-corporation-increases-stake-in-gbtc-as-institutional-adoption-grows

I just learnt something from this family and I know it must be one of the facts that they still remain relevant and one of the wealthy ones in the European countries is that they look at investment not from the face value but the future value, some people will never invest in bitcoin as at that April because of the drop in price but real investors will because is a long-run investment that will yield multiple profits for them.

One of my close friends believes that Rothschilds created Bitcoin... by him, they are one of the families that run the world from shadows! Everything starts and ends with them! A real conspiracy theory, or maybe not... the fact is that the Rothschild family is around for centuries, and they probably have fingers in everything! Of course, where's the power, there's money, and they have it both!


I totally agree with you! I don't like them too, but Bitcoin is for everyone! Big players are getting in, and that's a good thing for the market, many people follow where riches pour their money!

It's good that they are in it because that can only mean that they have the same goal as any other retail investors out there, to make the prices go up and take a big profit out of their holdings, I wouldn't be surprised to see if the prices started pumping sooner although it can't be seen right now given how the prices are looking bleak.

I don't care who holds bitcoin, really. IMO anyone is free to hold bitcoin. I don't like the Rothschilds, I don't like their lineage, they've been the undercover rulers of the world (financially speaking).
But if they hold some corn that's fine by me as it clearly shows the power of the most alluring assets of our times.
If you want to give power to your money, then follow where the riches pour their bucks.  

Well respectfully, how the f* would any of us know if they hold BTC. If they hold personally, I would assume there would be no way for us to ever know.

The Rothschilds' less than $4 million exposure to Bitcoin is a small amount. Of course, we do not really know how much they truly have, but at least as the data suggests, that's loose change for the family. Something tells me, therefore, the family's investment firm has not yet fully considered Bitcoin as an investment asset worth risking too much. This must be the necessary risk management to an investment experiment of an emerging asset. But this also signifies the potential of Bitcoin. 

There have been reports over the years about Rothschilds buying bitcoin. Along with goldman sachs buying poloniex through circle. Ethereum having partnerships with microsoft and big players. Craig Wright having $200 million invested in his start up by (I think) banks.

This latest report about Rothschilds follows hot on the heels of claims of George Soros becoming more involved with BTC. If there were a massive and coordinated effort to attack bitcoin's market valuation, I think neither Soros nor Rothschilds would fund it. They don't use their own money to attack markets, initiate regime change or fund social movements across the globe.

They do what Trump did when he tried to make mexico pay for a border wall.

AFAIK, they don't.

This is a surprising news to me and to know that they hold bitcoin. I guess those wise folks will consider their move as a model and they will follow also buying as the wealthiest family have bought already.

Now those people who follow much news about bitcoin, who are they going to follow, Elon or Rothschilds? 

You hardly make any sense Fortify.. Are you sure that you are talking about bitcoin and not some nonsense?

Bitcoin still has value if people buy and hold.. so who gives any shits if they were to buy bitcoin and not use it.  The removal of bitcoin from circulation does not decrease its value or its utility.

Of course, with some rich people, they surely could have malevolent motives in terms of buying a lot of bitcoin and attempting to manipulate the BTC price, and probably not a whole hell of a lot that can be done about that.  Sure there are likely also the use of financial tools that ultimately cause various kinds of fractional reserves in terms of selling bitcoin that they do not have, but if the BTC price goes shooting up, some of those fucktwats using vast sums of dollars or other currencies to attempt to drive the BTC price down through their use of financial instruments will get reckt.. hopefully some of those folks get reckt.. but hey, not even sure about that, even though many of us can already recognize that various kinds of financial instruments are used to create (or manipulate) bitcoin in such a way that they attempt to profit from such manipulation.. and whether they get caught with their pants down or not might be another story in terms of whether justice always comes to manipulators (probably not).


Of course, there could be mixed motives.. and the facts are not even close to clear in this case regarding even the ballpark of how many BTC that they might be buying, if any.

OMG, I was going to write exactly what you wrote and quote the same thing--but you beat me to it. 

Most financial journalists write crap like the sentence above, as if making money was achieved by buying high and selling low.  I find that sort of writing to be insulting, personally, because it almost implies that the Rothschilds don't think like the rest of us idiots and stop buying something when prices are down.  Obviously if there's value in an investment, the best move is to buy it when its price is depressed.  That's value investing 101.

Anyhow, it's kind of neat to see the Rothschilds are buying bitcoin (and ethereum, too).  That ought to tell any of you non-believers that bitcoin is eventually going to claw its way back to $63k and even higher.  It's just a question of when.

This is what I was thinking. Some see them being interested, I see other motives.. What a shame

To be honest, they are money producing machines and you shouldn't necessarily be copying what they are doing. They get paid profits from companies all year long and when you are that rich you can afford to lose millions because you are still making hundreds of millions every year from a wide range of sources. Wealth creates wealth on a grand scale, yes they will ultimately push up the price but they are actually detrimental to the ultimate purpose of Bitcoin because they can afford to sit on their wallets for years while taking vast amounts of this limited currency out of circulation. They may even have ulterior motives that us poorer folk cannot comprehend and it might be damaging in the long run to hold certain things that they hold.

Forgive my ignorance, but is it out of the realm to consider they already own mass amounts of BTC personally?

I thought the Walton family (which owns Walmart) is the richest in the world?!
Long term thinking has been the main factor of Rotschild's success since centuries. They have always held or even increased their wealth, regardless of whether there were wars or world crises. That's why it's very interesting when they build up their Bitcoin stake little by little. On the other hand, I don't know how credible the article is. The family has always been very secretive.

Rather small indeed, for a family as wealthy as the Rothschilds their BTC holdings are negligible. It's easy to double down if your stake is barely pocket change.

Still interesting to see Bitcoin becoming a staple of a diversified portfolio, even for old money.

I love the sub headline: "Rothschild Investment Corp has bought more Bitcoin and Ether exposure via Grayscale despite the ongoing crypto market retreat."

It seems written by a clueless scholar, which wouldn't be surprising.

They are not buying even though the price has gone down, they are buying because the price has gone down. These types of people are characterized by buying cheap.

Timely release of news to balance or reverse the effect of the GBTC shares unlock on speculators? Hehe.

Why am I not surprised? It's probably because they are one of those groups spreading FUD to keep the price down? They own banks as you said and we all know how majority of these bank executives speak ill of BTC.

Rothschild are one of the most wealthiest and secretive family known to humankind. So when they are investing in bitcoin, they might be thinking long term. Otherwise their bitcoin holdings wouldn't have grown 300 percent. But that's for the record, we don't know how many bitcoins they personally own without going through greyscale. Also the current retreat is a great opportunity for everyone and not just Rothschild family. The faster we all understand this, the better! Look for a time period of 3 years and hold during this time!

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Hmm:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/rothschild-investment-corp-has-increased-its-bitcoin-exposure-by-300-since-april

It seems that as of now their HODLINGS are rather small.  But growing.

The Rothschilds are likely the world's richest family.  They own castles galore in Europe.  Banks.  Vineyards.  Gold.  They think very long-term.  Apparently they don't care if BTC price has moved down.

If we just look at wealth, the Rothschilds are the largest whales that exist.  They are also very well informed.  Very.