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Quote from: shadowduck on October 19, 2019, 07:28:08 AM

Quote from: Alexandr Kirichenko on October 19, 2019, 07:05:04 AM

TON now has big problems, and the prospects for development are not very good. I don't know what's going to happen, but I don't think it's good. We have waited too long for him and I think that not wait.

we are all not investors of this project, so it makes no difference how long we have to wait for it, but we all use telegram and we have to understand that this platform will gain more and more popularity and the TON project will exist and will be implemented

although we are not investor, but well, big project such this have a huge attention from crypto people like me.
TON mainnet launch no later than 31 oct. only 1 week left.
for reminding Telegram’s blockchain is designed as a proof-of-stake protocol with the support of multiple “shardchains.” and also compatible with ethereum-based software

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Quote from: Alexandr Kirichenko on October 19, 2019, 07:05:04 AM

TON now has big problems, and the prospects for development are not very good. I don't know what's going to happen, but I don't think it's good. We have waited too long for him and I think that not wait.

we are all not investors of this project, so it makes no difference how long we have to wait for it, but we all use telegram and we have to understand that this platform will gain more and more popularity and the TON project will exist and will be implemented

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TON now has big problems, and the prospects for development are not very good. I don't know what's going to happen, but I don't think it's good. We have waited too long for him and I think that not wait.

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Quote from: Metall303 on October 19, 2019, 05:28:27 AM

Quote from: UniversityCoin on October 19, 2019, 05:06:34 AM

The TON has now disappointed many investors. I have heard talk that they themselves have contributed to the commencement of proceedings against them. They did this because they do not have time with the development of their blockchain and testing its security.

TON just faced with temporary difficulties that they would solve in the coming months. I am not an investor of this project, but I understand that this is a very serious project

The must be doing everything possible to clarify things with the sec as soon as they can, the number of investors on this project is much and they can't afford to let such number of people down, I think they are the only project to raise such amount since bear market, too much anticipation on it, I am also looking forward to seeing the outcome,
I am hoping to buy some GRAM when hit the exchange when the price is low.

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Quote from: UniversityCoin on October 19, 2019, 05:06:34 AM

The TON has now disappointed many investors. I have heard talk that they themselves have contributed to the commencement of proceedings against them. They did this because they do not have time with the development of their blockchain and testing its security.

TON just faced with temporary difficulties that they would solve in the coming months. I am not an investor of this project, but I understand that this is a very serious project

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The TON has now disappointed many investors. I have heard talk that they themselves have contributed to the commencement of proceedings against them. They did this because they do not have time with the development of their blockchain and testing its security.

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Quote from: allwelder on October 14, 2019, 09:03:16 AM

Quote from: ashmodeus on October 14, 2019, 08:26:23 AM

Quote from: allwelder on October 13, 2019, 09:28:55 PM

Not as big as EOS 4 Billion with TON 1.7 Billion funding raise. Wink

And Telegram seems also not acknowledge behind the project.

yes, as far i know $4,197,956,135 raised on EOS ICO.

well, Your words make me confused, so what u want to say is GRAM/TON not fully created by the telegram itself?
"Telegram’s ambitious founder Pavel Durov was hoping to launch the Telegram Open Network as a payment option that would exist apart from the global regulatory system in much the same way that Libra would have done, according to initial TechCrunch reporting."
can those words fend off your statement?

Yes,there seems some report,including coindesk:
https://www.coindesk.com/telegram-finally-confirms-its-behind-ton-blockchain
Telegram is finally going public with its involvement in the Telegram Open Network (TON).

But,there still not any source from official telegram acknowledge that it's him behind TON.
And I always think why they choose such a private way if they really want to build real thing.

hmmm, well.
the simple reason, if they announced officially, world will be , u know something like trend, its will be popular.
even private like this,scammer already a lot, i cant imaginate what will be if they make this "public" .
I just think the general public wants to participate in this sale will got scamming by who claimed as a offical seller.

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TON is a fairly large project with a member size of telegram. Good security, will succeed if supported in a timely and serious manner! from user community and developers!

They absolutely not going to have any problem getting support from people around the world who knows about cryptocurrency because they were already big prior to when they initiated their blockchain idea. With what I have even read about their project, I have absolute no doubt about their project survival.

One big advantage of this project is also that they are going to expose a whole lots of people to the cryptocurrency world, most especially their users that has never gotten to know about cryptocurrency through other means initially, but through them, these members already will tend to also make research about their project which will surely lead to them making some input on the various solid projects that we have in the market.

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Telegram Network is the biggest project in my opinion. Because we are not having something nearly powerful at the moment. It is the same as a big technology company would announce its own blockchain. It would help to near the mass adoption for sure.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 14, 2019, 08:26:23 AM

Quote from: allwelder on October 13, 2019, 09:28:55 PM

Not as big as EOS 4 Billion with TON 1.7 Billion funding raise. Wink

And Telegram seems also not acknowledge behind the project.

yes, as far i know $4,197,956,135 raised on EOS ICO.

well, Your words make me confused, so what u want to say is GRAM/TON not fully created by the telegram itself?
"Telegram’s ambitious founder Pavel Durov was hoping to launch the Telegram Open Network as a payment option that would exist apart from the global regulatory system in much the same way that Libra would have done, according to initial TechCrunch reporting."
can those words fend off your statement?

Yes,there seems some report,including coindesk:
https://www.coindesk.com/telegram-finally-confirms-its-behind-ton-blockchain
Telegram is finally going public with its involvement in the Telegram Open Network (TON).

But,there still not any source from official telegram acknowledge that it's him behind TON.
And I always think why they choose such a private way if they really want to build real thing.

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Quote from: allwelder on October 13, 2019, 09:28:55 PM

Not as big as EOS 4 Billion with TON 1.7 Billion funding raise. Wink

And Telegram seems also not acknowledge behind the project.

yes, as far i know $4,197,956,135 raised on EOS ICO.

well, Your words make me confused, so what u want to say is GRAM/TON not fully created by the telegram itself?
"Telegram’s ambitious founder Pavel Durov was hoping to launch the Telegram Open Network as a payment option that would exist apart from the global regulatory system in much the same way that Libra would have done, according to initial TechCrunch reporting."
can those words fend off your statement?

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Quote from: coinfinger on October 13, 2019, 04:12:01 AM

I honestly believe in the future of telegram project more than Libra coin, the good thing that telegram did was to come down to the level of everyone, by starting the way that all other projects started and believe me, if they gradually grow their project, the sky will be their limit and that is why people are very much anticipated to see the telegram coin release unlike Libra coin that was meat with hatreds when it has not yet released because they came like they were coming to displace bitcoin off its position with their centralized system that I do not trust.

I am eagerly waiting for this project to be released to the public which I believe strongly will be the best of coins when it is eventually released and now that they will have relationship with Ethereum, this might be another boost for Ethereum.

Absolutely agree. Telegram's future is much brighter than Libra's.

Telegram has raised millions of dollars in investment so far, and I hope it gives it its due. All I want with Telegram is for them to move into a decentralized structure.

If I'm not mistaken, Telegram uses a central infrastructure, although its messages are supported by the science of cryptography. But if it turns its infrastructure into purely decentralized, we could use a much more secure and privacy-focused messaging app.

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The TON project is really a very large project, you can tell an example for the industry, at least in terms of marketing.
Notice how little information there is in the information field until the moment the project has laid down the conditions for using their wallet, and immediately received a ban from regulators.
I think it’s not for nothing that TON did not give out any information about the project for so long. I am sure that the project will be launched, although not immediately.

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I really hope that TON project will succeed as I am a fan of Telegram, and Pavel Durov. But Russian news reported today that Pavel Durov is considering the possibility of postponing the launch of the project because of US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) lawsuit. The team is doing their best right now to fix the problem, but more concrete information will be given next week.

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Not as big as EOS 4 Billion with TON 1.7 Billion funding raise. Wink

Usually,big funding raise is not a good target for high ROI.

And for TON,there are many uncertainty,especially from SEC regulations.And Telegram seems also not acknowledge behind the project.

But some big companies ,like coinbase will provide TON token custody service after tokens issued.

So,many thing are unclear yet,let's wait and see.

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TON does have a pretty good initial value price but it must be maintained and better the price should be able to go up by increasing demand by possibly developing its coins to work with many traders even to companies that often make transactions so that from the submission can increase TON usage and will make TON prices increase.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 03, 2019, 04:58:07 PM

well, recently we hear about TON, the telegram ico project.
many many controversion come from this ico
since from when exactly this ico started i dont know for sure,and then japan exchange offered TON with highly prices , almost 3.50 bucks/each .
however, the private sale from liquid is complete. i quite sure the project will be top by this year.
but now,according from some source ,TON blockchain will be launched in late october.
and also the good news , the telegram blockchain Will Support Ethereum dApps.
so, how u think guys about this one ?
for me, somehow i just speculate TON more promising than LIBRA.
from Any Side.

TON fell to the crypto space like a bomb, already exchanges have started sending alert emails about not being late to receive GRAM. TON will keep good place on the market but I think the hype will be very high and this will affect it badly in the future.

I am not Libra's big fan but if Libra is going to be as said, it will be more useful. It is best to wait and after looking at how they go on, we can decide which is best.

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According to the tests, TON promises high speed and they are working to get Ethereum developers to easily migrate their Dapps to TON Blockchain.

This added to the 300 million users that Telegram has and a study that says that TON will be worth 20,000 million in 5 years, makes it attractive as an investment and as a framework.

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Telegram's TON has been making news for a while. But I have reservations about this project. The support that this project received in terms of funding is really massive, but I guess it is primarily due to the fact that it is Telegram's ICO. Telegram is already famous with its app even before it joined the ICO market and offered its own coin to the public. And now that it is about to formally launch its own blockchain, the SEC has reared its ugly head and has sensed that it should also be stopped.

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well , everyone,
according to some news i get this morning, another bad news came again to crypto world, i dont know what the hell going on here right now.
the goverment try to pushing cryto world hardly.
"Cryptocurrency’s bad news day continues to get worse as the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission has said it has filed an emergency action and received a restraining order for the $1.7 billion planned token offering of Telegram’s blockchain"
for more info.

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Perhaps more information is needed to get a better idea of whether TON is good and worth the investment, TON and LIBRA are two different projects but TON has been sold privately and LIBRA has just been introduced.

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I honestly believe in the future of telegram project more than Libra coin, the good thing that telegram did was to come down to the level of everyone, by starting the way that all other projects started and believe me, if they gradually grow their project, the sky will be their limit and that is why people are very much anticipated to see the telegram coin release unlike Libra coin that was meat with hatreds when it has not yet released because they came like they were coming to displace bitcoin off its position with their centralized system that I do not trust.

I am eagerly waiting for this project to be released to the public which I believe strongly will be the best of coins when it is eventually released and now that they will have relationship with Ethereum, this might be another boost for Ethereum.

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Quote from: gaston castano on October 07, 2019, 02:08:50 AM

with a very large total supply and a high price of 3.5 $ / token, it will be vulnerable, maybe investors will be careful even though it is backed up by telegram, and for libra I think it will be far more famous than TON, because facebook is worldwide and become one of the top social media applications.
maybe because the TON is released at the beginning he will hold the temporary control, but when libra comes out everything will change.

well, if u read some news, price about 3,5 bucks just a little amount of total supply .
but that make a good thing, people still believe the TON project have a bright future.
and also, what u think libra give to the comunity, i mean, its just nothing compare with TON with allow support ethereum platfrom.

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with a very large total supply and a high price of 3.5 $ / token, it will be vulnerable, maybe investors will be careful even though it is backed up by telegram, and for libra I think it will be far more famous than TON, because facebook is worldwide and become one of the top social media applications.
maybe because the TON is released at the beginning he will hold the temporary control, but when libra comes out everything will change.

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Quote from: o48o on October 06, 2019, 02:35:56 PM

Quote from: ashmodeus on October 03, 2019, 04:58:07 PM

and also the good news , the telegram blockchain Will Support Ethereum dApps.

This one got me intrigued, also i am waiting to see how if they are going to fuse their new tech directly to telegram. As most of the crypto communities has a telegram room, and everyone i know in telegram are very aware of cryptocurrencies so i am thinking that the learning curve for new users is not too hard. They got their target audience right, that i have to admit.

well, hopefully they not talking a stupid dream, because i just think its a quite difficult thing.
"It will allow the advanced Ethereum community to pull everything they wrote for Ethereum into TON."
so i guess, it's like needing a partnership with ethereum.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 03, 2019, 04:58:07 PM

and also the good news , the telegram blockchain Will Support Ethereum dApps.

This one got me intrigued, also i am waiting to see how if they are going to fuse their new tech directly to telegram. As most of the crypto communities has a telegram room, and everyone i know in telegram are very aware of cryptocurrencies so i am thinking that the learning curve for new users is not too hard. They got their target audience right, that i have to admit.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 03, 2019, 04:58:07 PM

well, recently we hear about TON, the telegram ico project.
many many controversion come from this ico
since from when exactly this ico started i dont know for sure,and then japan exchange offered TON with highly prices , almost 3.50 bucks/each .
however, the private sale from liquid is complete. i quite sure the project will be top by this year.
but now,according from some source ,TON blockchain will be launched in late october.
and also the good news , the telegram blockchain Will Support Ethereum dApps.
so, how u think guys about this one ?
for me, somehow i just speculate TON more promising than LIBRA.
from Any Side.

With ICOs you mainly support a project. ICOs are like crowdfunding's. When I see an ICO I like to support and would love to see their product built, and I believe they can build it I send them some Bitcoins. Dreaming to make profit doing that is supper silly.

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Telegram crypto would be a game changer in the whole industry, because it has a working service, is truly decentralised and has a famous team. The only thing I would not recommend is to take part on various TON token sales that are happening on different exchanges at the moment.

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Ton is a new project investing in it might be a risky. I believe we should wait for a bit but if you want to invest, then visit a trusted site completely analyze the project check it's market trend and project rating. As it can be a long-term investment.

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It makes no sense to compare the Ton and Libra projects. These are completely different projects with different tasks. And I think that they will both be very popular. Truth if the that Ton will already less doubt, then the that Libra will emerge, I until very doubt. The latest news suggests otherwise.

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Quote from: minairia3 on October 05, 2019, 02:55:48 AM

Really? Yes facebook has bigger community but I think their community on telegram has pretty have knowledge MORE than the facebook community, I guess. This isnt about which community wil be superior, I know telegram for a bit but Ican say TON project is worth 10x than Libra project when it comes to Blockchain experience.

really ? u want to comparing TON with Libra ?
they have different mission, also Libra just a piece of stable coins.
and also, besides it, TON its really have a great opportunity, even 3,5 each people still enthusiastic to buy it.

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Quote from: EdvinZ on October 04, 2019, 02:39:38 AM

TON is a very promising project, because the messenger in which it will be used is almost the most popular in the world. The Telegram application is used by millions of people and they will all be involved in the TON economy. This project is almost the most anticipated for several years, I think investors will be willing to buy tokens. The good news is that TON and Ethereum will interact.

Well, TON is known for having a huge funding. They are about to launch their main net not later than October 31, this month. Their source was already release and I think many developers will got interest on this. TRON is a proof of Stake, which is good since most project are adopting to POS.

More info here : Telegram Finally Releases Code for Its $1.7 Billion TON Blockchain

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Quote from: dfktynby1004 on October 04, 2019, 02:09:29 PM

The problem with Telegram is that they have a much smaller community than Facebook. There will need to be huge spending on advertising the project and its capabilities. Libra doesn't need that. Me very strongly worries the that private trade commanded very a large number of time and many multimillionaires have been able buy kollosalnoe childrens coins. These people will be able to manage the market due to their large volumes. Therefore, we will expect - a game of prices.

Really? Yes facebook has bigger community but I think their community on telegram has pretty have knowledge MORE than the facebook community, I guess. This isnt about which community wil be superior, I know telegram for a bit but Ican say TON project is worth 10x than Libra project when it comes to Blockchain experience.

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TON is a good project that many people have been waiting for, especially by supporting Ethereum Dapps, I don't believe Libra why that is because there is still a lot of news about Libra which is said to be a fraud.

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I have heard that this telegram ico has made private sales and is making a substantial income around $1.7 billion, of course, with the amount of income earned by this telegram indicates if the token ton has the trust of the cryptocurency community at this time, but according to the news circulating that this token ton will be traded to the public last October but it seems that until now there has not been Large markets that have toned token tokens on their list, I think tons will be able to become the strongest competitor of libra tokens because both of their platforms have similarity, namely Blockchain based social media.

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The problem with Telegram is that they have a much smaller community than Facebook. There will need to be huge spending on advertising the project and its capabilities. Libra doesn't need that. Me very strongly worries the that private trade commanded very a large number of time and many multimillionaires have been able buy kollosalnoe childrens coins. These people will be able to manage the market due to their large volumes. Therefore, we will expect - a game of prices.

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TON is a very promising project, because the messenger in which it will be used is almost the most popular in the world. The Telegram application is used by millions of people and they will all be involved in the TON economy. This project is almost the most anticipated for several years, I think investors will be willing to buy tokens. The good news is that TON and Ethereum will interact.

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Quote from: nanaimogold on October 03, 2019, 06:07:29 PM

I understand the token will go for 3.2usd per coin. I am yet to have more technical information on the usecases to see if there's anything exquisite maybe I will but from the tokensale which will continue on exmarket till 8th October

i dont know why telegram allowed such market like exmarket to sell their token.
well,i just have speculation, probably owner of exmarket buying some amount of gram on previous sale, then he/she sell again with same price like on liquid.

Quote from: EdvinZ on October 04, 2019, 02:39:38 AM

TON is a very promising project, because the messenger in which it will be used is almost the most popular in the world. The Telegram application is used by millions of people and they will all be involved in the TON economy. This project is almost the most anticipated for several years, I think investors will be willing to buy tokens. The good news is that TON and Ethereum will interact.

indeed.
and for sure, the token sale no more opened.
i just warned about exmarket, since no data on coinmarketcap.

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Quote from: nanaimogold on October 03, 2019, 06:07:29 PM

I understand the token will go for 3.2usd per coin. I am yet to have more technical information on the usecases to see if there's anything exquisite maybe I will but from the tokensale which will continue on exmarket till 8th October

Are you sure what is sold at ExMarkets is the original GRAM? because recently there have been lots of exchanges that have been holding IEO for GRAM at various prices, I'm a little less sure about ExMarkets even though it is true that the price of GRAM when private sale is $3

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Quote from: nanaimogold on October 03, 2019, 06:07:29 PM

Quote from: ashmodeus on October 03, 2019, 04:58:07 PM

well, recently we hear about TON, the telegram ico project.
many many controversion come from this ico
since from when exactly this ico started i dont know for sure,and then japan exchange offered TON with highly prices , almost 3.50 bucks/each .
however, the private sale from liquid is complete. i quite sure the project will be top by this year.
but now,according from some source ,TON blockchain will be launched in late october.
and also the good news , the telegram blockchain Will Support Ethereum dApps.
so, how u think guys about this one ?
for me, somehow i just speculate TON more promising than LIBRA.
from Any Side.

I understand the token will go for 3.2usd per coin. I am yet to have more technical information on the usecases to see if there's anything exquisite maybe I will but from the tokensale which will continue on exmarket till 8th October

That price doesn't seem realistic. If it goes up to that price then that price will be faked.

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Is there any other project in the space that raised more than $1 billion, what I am waiting for is the valuation at which is going to trade, if the valuation is less than $2 billion that would be bad for investors, tie up your money for 18 months and can't get decent return on investment because I heard they raised $1.7 billion form their ICO

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TON or telegram open network is one of the biggest project of all time. It already finished its seed funding years back. But the problem with ton is they said if they don't launch their working/beta project then they will return the money to the seed investors. And the last of launch is Oct 31. So let's see.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 03, 2019, 04:58:07 PM

well, recently we hear about TON, the telegram ico project.
many many controversion come from this ico
since from when exactly this ico started i dont know for sure,and then japan exchange offered TON with highly prices , almost 3.50 bucks/each .
however, the private sale from liquid is complete. i quite sure the project will be top by this year.
but now,according from some source ,TON blockchain will be launched in late october.
and also the good news , the telegram blockchain Will Support Ethereum dApps.
so, how u think guys about this one ?
for me, somehow i just speculate TON more promising than LIBRA.
from Any Side.

I agree that TON is more potential than Facebook's Libra, it doesn't have to be as much pressure as Libra, and adopting a telegram-issued cryptocurrency could give Telegram's payment system autonomy. Not dependent on any government or bank.

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The amount of fund for this project is too huge, I wonder how will they utilize that enormous amount of funds maybe they are planning something big and not ordinary. Lets see how this project will perfoem ot it could be a boom or catastrophic and how can they compete with the existing crypto economies.

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This probably a high risk investment. Multi billions supply with a few dollars to be paid for each token and this is very expensive and for some people this is not a rational price to be bought by investors.
From the technical side and there's no doubt with the team but from the token allocation and price and it doesn't make sense to call the TON coin will be getting a lot of room to growth.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 03, 2019, 04:58:07 PM

well, recently we hear about TON, the telegram ico project.
many many controversion come from this ico
since from when exactly this ico started i dont know for sure,and then japan exchange offered TON with highly prices , almost 3.50 bucks/each .
however, the private sale from liquid is complete. i quite sure the project will be top by this year.
but now,according from some source ,TON blockchain will be launched in late october.
and also the good news , the telegram blockchain Will Support Ethereum dApps.
so, how u think guys about this one ?
for me, somehow i just speculate TON more promising than LIBRA.
from Any Side.

I understand the token will go for 3.2usd per coin. I am yet to have more technical information on the usecases to see if there's anything exquisite maybe I will but from the tokensale which will continue on exmarket till 8th October

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well, recently we hear about TON, the telegram ico project.
many many controversion come from this ico
since from when exactly this ico started i dont know for sure,and then japan exchange offered TON with highly prices , almost 3.50 bucks/each .
however, the private sale from liquid is complete. i quite sure the project will be top by this year.
but now,according from some source ,TON blockchain will be launched in late october.
and also the good news , the telegram blockchain Will Support Ethereum dApps.
so, how u think guys about this one ?
for me, somehow i just speculate TON more promising than LIBRA.
from Any Side.

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