Topic: The uncontrollable world (Read 160 times)

^^^ And that is one of the things that shows that Big Bang is more science fiction than theory. The simple passing of Voyagers  1 and 2 through the heliosphere, show that we don't really know what interstellar space is like. So, how do we even know that what is our their isn't simply translating itself into what appears to be stars and galaxies, just for us to have something to ponder. We don't really have any proof for BB at all.

There is a difference between the universe as perceived by our human senses and understood by our human brains, and the universe as it actually is. If we go down to a subatomic level, for example, an electron, which is certainly a thing that exists, does not have any size... but neither does it have a definite location. The universe of solid objects resolves into a cloud of probabilities and uncertainty, perturbations of fields. We've known since Einstein that time and space are relative concepts... but recent progress on quantum gravity makes a lot more sense if we consider an indefinite causal order... and there's even the possibility that quantum causal loops might reconcile QM to general relativity. Cause and effect should not be seen as a given beyond the macroscopic scale.

Ultimately we don't know what space and time are, but we do know that they are nothing like what they seem, intuitively, to our senses.

thats not true the universe is indeed subject to a higher intelligence, atheists can't see that because they are to confused with side facts.

The whole big bang theory makes a whole year in high school to be discussed, Don't remember when in high school though.

And I can't really word out how the law works, and you can see the summary I made is what I understood before so I got you a link to a file.

The Origin of the Universe

A theory well accepted that started with a huge explosion in space.

Well, there are things we know, and there are things which are beyond our imagination and where our minds can't even reach, just for example, think, if we are made of the same dead atoms that a book is made up of, why are we living and alive and the book is dead? We have no answers, there's no absolute answer, and I think that is what gives our life a purpose, to hunt for the truth, and for its acceptance. Imagine living in a world where you have answers to everything, you wouldn't need to spend a brain cell to figure something out, how boring would be that? And who controls the world? Who cares, the only thing constant and truth is we are all gonna die someday, and hence, no one or human really controls the world, we are like electrons, protons and neutrons who are nothing but doing our purpose to build an atom.

Yet, the world is completely controlled that we know of. How? By cause and effect.

A thing exists the way it does because the thing(s) that caused it to exist this way didn't cause it to exist some other way.

The thing(s) that caused it to exist the way it does, were each caused to exist the way they do by the thing(s) that caused it(them) to exist and act precisely the way it(they) acted.

All this goes back to the beginning... in everything. What was before the beginning? That's an inappropriate question, because time wasn't available before the beginning.

Whatever exists outside this universe, can't even be guessed at, really. If it was similar to this universe, it would be part of this universe and not outside it.

Until somebody finds something that they can prove came into existence totally spontaneously (without having any kind of cause at all) the universe is completely controlled by cause and effect to be and act the way it is and does.

Actually I haven't gone  through big bang theory... can you tell me how the world was formed by energy  and  the  scientific proof how the world was formed by energy??

We are just at a random point in time of human evolution right now. Nothing special with the current time. Our understanding of the world and our creation is still very limited. We might know much more than the people 500 or 2000 years ago, but in the end we are still pretty clueless. For us it seems like an invisible power that we can't explain. For the people who are going to live on Earth in 500 or 1000 years this force will likely be explained and every kid will know it. We need to except that we can't know everything.

               Man, that's deep. The way I see it, the thing that only makes us what we are today is because of greed which is the main reason why we lack unity and then peace. Although not a good thing to think about morally, we cannot deny the fact that it indeed played a very vital role in our history since it has pushed man to desire supremacy and to be above others which then fueled the perseverance of the best individuals recorded in history resulting into innovation to innovation in a wide variety of fields from daily necessities to caskets. Now, while I think that greed is very essential for the growth of humanity, I must also say that it will also be the thing that will contribute the most for the destruction of men. - Just a piece of my mind.

There's a huge amount of evidence for the big bang origin, and zero evidence for the 'God did it' origin.
Big bang is a scientific theory, and is supported by evidence. 'God' is a faith-based theory, and so - for those who believe it - doesn't need evidence.

One thing I find difficult to comprehend is the religious objection to big bang on the basis of 'Well, what happened before the big bang? You don't know that, you don't have evidence for that, therefore it's not true'. The problem with this argument is that it's someone who is happy for their own preferred origin to lack evidence, but simultaneously sees a lack of evidence for the alternative as being proof of its falsity.

As for what did happen before the big bang, whilst we don't know for certain, the fact that space and time are intertwined and can't, scientifically, be considered as separate things, does provide a clue. If we say that the big bang was the origin of space, then it follows that it should also be the origin of time... because it is the origin of spacetime. But this is simply a theory; it's similar to black holes. Energies and densities hitting infinity is the mathematical limiting case, an asymptote that isn't reached; it doesn't necessarily mean an actual infinity... but such extremes do present difficulties to understanding, as they are so far from our everyday human experiences. There are of course many theories as to how the initial conditions of the universe arose... it's just that they are very difficult, and perhaps impossible, to test. To understand a thing you need to view it from the outside. We can't view the universe from the outside.

That's a question that cannot be answered whether there would be a satisfying answer from other people.
As you've said, there's already a division of whom or where the world really started and that belief has several answers that people can answer but to prove it lacks of evidence.

Do you really disregard the infamous Big Bang Theory by Georges Lemaître?, It is also in fact the most accepted theory up to this current era as its discussed how the universe formed from a single energy in a single point in space.

Big Bang theory explains how this universe was born and the evolution defines how living things emerged from a single cell organization.And this world is not only for human which we forgot thousands of years ago.

 The world was made by an invisible power whom no science or scientist can define or propound the theory of the creation. However, the world was made for the good of man. But a search to tell that something is missing that resulted to it's chaos. There was religion of different believe, but there was no peace for the world .
Babylon highjacked the power to lead the whole world but it was topled  by the pertian world(jarius) the king. Greek world came on board( Alexander the great) he also failed, there was no peace. there was disunity in the world. Constantine took the Roman government there was no corridor of peace . Charles magnet in the same empire there was no peace.
The world went into disintegration, from there we are where we are today. The question is where  are the workers of the great  scientist,  where are the great religionists, where are the great educationist and the great leaders  of the world?? Something is missing, there must be a hand of the creation of the world.