Topic: The war in Ukraine has been going on for the third year (Read 199 times)

"Putin can fight for as long as it takes, but Putin is also ready for a ceasefire – to freeze the war."

Putin doesn't like the war any more than anybody else... except the warmongers in Washington, of course.


Putin wants Ukraine ceasefire on current frontlines, sources say

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-wants-ukraine-ceasefire-current-090432297.html
Three of the sources, familiar with discussions in Putin's entourage, said the veteran Russian leader had expressed frustration to a small group of advisers about what he views as Western-backed attempts to stymie negotiations and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's decision to rule out talks.

"Putin can fight for as long as it takes, but Putin is also ready for a ceasefire – to freeze the war," said another of the four, a senior Russian source who has worked with Putin and has knowledge of top level conversations in the Kremlin.

He, like the others cited in this story, spoke on condition of anonymity given the matter's sensitivity.

For this account, Reuters spoke to a total of five people who work with or have worked with Putin at a senior level in the political and business worlds. The fifth source did not comment on freezing the war at the current frontlines.

Asked about the Reuters report at a news conference in Belarus on Friday, Putin said peace talks should restart.

"Let them resume," he said, adding that negotiations should be based on "the realities on the ground" and on a plan agreed during a previous attempt to reach a deal in the first weeks of the war. "Not on the basis of what one side wants," he said.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said on X that the Russian leader was trying to derail a Ukrainian-initiated peace summit in Switzerland next month by using his entourage to send out "phony signals" about his alleged readiness to halt the war.

"Putin currently has no desire to end his aggression against Ukraine. Only the principled and united voice of the global majority can force him to choose peace over war," said Kuleba.

Mykhailo Podolyak, a Ukrainian presidential adviser, said Putin wanted Western democracies to accept defeat.
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I have no doubt that the war in Ukraine is genuine. Russia is a relentless invader & they don’t look like slowing down any time soon. I do believe that other, more powerful nations (cough, cough) have motivation for this war to  continue due to self interests. For that reason it’s hard to see the war ending any time soon.

Aside from getting up economically with wars, they're just simply being extremists. They can't live in peace without doing such but they only resort with it because huge cash are coming in from there. On the latter of what you've said, I felt guilty. I probably one of those citizens that haven't spotted the red flags of a leader and it's politics you know, most of the things they say has a probability of most lies.

Well, I don't know. Most of the common people likes to have peace but don't want to get involved with any political matters. And that's why we leave it to the leaders and I think that's also a problem from a commoner like me because I don't think that I'd make a huge difference as with these leaders and that's why whoever has the experience in politics, that's whom we vote at least for the democratic countries. Speaking of experience, experience in politics but many of them lacks actual leadership. 

It's always the leaders who promote the wars. And mostly the bankers. How and why? Here's what it's about. Greed.

How did people who are in positions of power get there? They got there by being intelligent and ambitious, and cruelly against anybody who gets in their way.

Common people who don't want wars and fighting, are manipulated by their leaders into thinking that war is the best way for the economy of the people to flourish and grow. The people simply are not intelligent enough to see the lies of the leaders, or cruel enough to implement wars, themselves.

My question is, how many of the peaceful common people would be just like the leaders if they were a little smarter?

This is the sad truth, while the citizens are wanting peace and they're all shouting for that. The leaders don't see that they're being instructed to keep on going. We have no idea until when this is going to stop and while in some other parts of the world, there are also external parties that are triggering another war to happen. We all knew who they are and that's why they're pushing for it because the entire economy is going downhill and they have to do something sort of selling weapons and heavy equipment for them to have income.
Guaranteeing them in words that they're all in to support them at all cost with the war that they're going to be in. People don't deserve this, world leaders should stop this but it seems that peace is going to be a part of the long and on going process but I am sure one day, they're all going to reclaim that back. To our fellow forum members here that are in both countries and innocent, I am praying for all of your safety.

You're wrong. Ukraine HAS BEEN on the winning side all along. The people just haven't realized it. The winning side is Russia. If the people of Ukraine had realized it, they would have stopped killing themselves off, and taken a stand with Russia against the United States and Nato.

I mean, is Ukraine over by Texas or something? No. They are by Russia.

Sincerely, Ukraine has nothing to fight for because it hasn't been on the winning side since the whole problem started. Should we be talking about the people (citizens)? I don't think so since the government has authority over the people.

It's sad to see how the Ukraine government has allowed/listened to the say of external Bodies. These external Bodies are clearly against Russia, but prefer to use Ukraine as the bait.

Lastly, instead of the Ukraine government looking for ways to resolve all crisis with Russian, they are busy looking for sympathy, weapon, and money donations from all other nations. It seems the donation matter to them most than the life of their citizens.

If Ukraine were to surrender, it's not because they are weak, but just to create peace and spare the lives of those alive.


A nation has broken into pieces just because of manipulation from external parties. It still surprises me to see that the Ukrainian president cannot see the manipulation in this crisis.

If Ukraine hadn't wanted to be destroyed, it's people would have sold to Russia the things that Russia wanted. All Russia really wanted was a land route to the Black Sea, and no further NATO pushes towards its borders.

If the people had not let the US (CIA) talk them into electing pro-Nato people into office starting 2014 (were the elections stolen?), there wouldn't have been any push against Russia to cause Russia to have to do its police action. If you look at the history of Ukraine since the fall of the USSR, all Ukrainian people wanted was peaceful relations with the whole world... something that the warmongering US couldn't stand, because they want to take over Russia.

When the US controlled puppet governments of Ukraine stepped up their attacks on their own Donetsk/Donbas areas in 2022, the only thing Russia could do to protect both Ukrainians and Russians living in those areas was to try to stop them. Kiev turned it into a war that the US knew that they could not win.

Ukraine, surrender, now, while there is a little bit of you left.

Greed for power and dominance is the reason why this war started and still continuing, we are aware that Russia is powerful and it has destroyed once beautiful country which was also considered as hub for education, but who provoked the war? Some will say US and Europe ? But I don't agree with that as application to join NATO cannot be a reason to justify the war which putin has brought and I think war cannot continue without weapon but we all know who supplies weapon for war and both the warring sides. I think Ukraine was made scapegoat and even Russia didn't achieve much hence it would be wise to end this war and focus on rebuilding the nation and lives.

I guess peace will surely be restore, for the two countries to embrace among themselves because war don't use to bring good things to people than to destroy what the people have achieved in the past, which is what the whole world is standing against.

Nobody will join Ukraine to fight the war, and nobody will Join Russia to fight the war, for other countries to learn lesson from this war because joining one country to fight their opponent show that they are encouraging war in some countries, which is not good for any country to support any country to fight war.

Since the Russia and Ukraine refused to listen to the whole world to allow peace to rain among themselves, maybe other countries can raise banned on their products to see the strength they have to continue the war again.

Russia is a cancer of the whole world. All the troubles are because of her. The world must unite against evil. There should be no wars in a civilized world. If the world understands where the root of evil is, then Ukraine will definitely win, and now this is the main task.

We will see what is stronger in the cancer in Ukraine.

When people get cancer, they use chemotherapy to kill the cancer. The chemo is poison that is used to poison the cancer dead. But it also poisons the person who has the cancer. The results depend on who/what is stronger... the person's life vitality, or the cancer within.

Ukraine has a cancer within. It's the ignorance of their people to see that they are being used by the US government and banking system. Will Ukraine survive? It all depends on the strength of the people. Will they be strong enough to finally see that the US chemo is killing them all off? Or will they simply die, with Ukraine ultimately being totally gone?

Another great new song about Ukraine. 🎸🎼💥

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDK2pkUmauY

The steppe is wide

The wind blows over the steppe
A black cloud-inevitability.
Where drops will fall from it
The horse will stumble, someone will die...

Chorus:

The steppe is wide, the distance is deep, the sky is blue...
Where are you chasing, wild wind, gray cloud? (twice)

And human tears are pouring
Mother's or girl's
For a young Cossack.
His eyes have already closed.

Chorus:

The steppe is wide, the distance is deep, the sky is blue...
Where are you chasing, wild wind, gray cloud? (twice)

Father will drop a clean drop.
Eyes light up angrily.
The head shines with silver.
He will take a kobza and flirt!

Chorus.

The steppe is wide, the distance is deep, the sky is blue...
Where are you chasing, wild wind, gray cloud? (three times)
Drive away from the human path,
Stormy wind, gray cloud!

While Ukraine is fighting against Russia and protecting the whole world from the madness of one country. We must help her with all our might. Many Ukrainians died on the battlefield defending their homeland and the whole world. We must not forget this. There is no future when everything is destroyed in one country. The civilized world is different, when we all prosper and enjoy life, as in the spring nature wakes up and everything blooms around. This stimulates us to live. War is pain and loss of everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAd8VgMMxZY

Listen, my friend...

Listen, friend, about my spring.
Who came to wake up the summer
Awaken the buds in the sleeping garden
And wrap the earth with a lush flower.

I took everything I needed with me-
Home warmth, father's and mother's opinion,
Strong hugs of friends on the shoulders,
The salty taste of a loved one's kiss.

The sky is not blue there!
There, gray ash covers the ground!
But each of us is warmed by hope,
It suppresses pain and spreads its wings.

I'll hug you all again soon
Because I am still stronger only in my dreams.
Let the summer not destroy the warmth
But golden autumn will come again...