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I also don't follow golf much, but I know who he is and that is one of the best players ever. This doesn't say much about someone who had a long break though.
I follow sports like boxing, MMA and football and it often happens that a player comes out of retirement because they get offered a ton of money and just cannot refuse, but these matches are a hit or miss when it comes to betting. We don't really know what shape Woods is going to be. 

Probably for golf it works a little differently, even judging by the career of Tiger Woods, he had enough strength, time and energy to do not only golf but many other things (which led to scandals hahaha). I am not an expert in the sports routine of professionals, but it seems that for football players, for example, the training process looks more intense and takes more time.

And there's also a saying that age is only just a number. This is true because if we can see there are lots of old aged people but are still looking young and physically fit. They are active and can do things that mostly younger people do. I heard woods have suffered from injuries? This can be the reason why his performance have been affected but if only not because of this, the golf superstar can always perform better. The issue about his relationship had happened long ago so he already have recovered from that.

@BitcoinPanther no way man. Legends are legends and that won't be erased anymore. These younger generations needs to eat more rice before they get on the level of the legends like woods.

Bookies are considering whatever he had gone thru.
And it is not the same Tiger when he competes again.
They may change their odds if he shows improvement.
But we don't forget that once he was a legend in this sports, and still is.
The respect is still there but with all his injuries that he had to suffer, it will have an impact on his performance one way or another.

I read that he withdrew and withdrew from the PGA Championship due to bad results he had on his tour, I don't follow golf very much, but at least I had the opportunity in the past to have seen his life on TV, or rather his dark side or his scandals so I don't know to what extent this is true what I saw on tv but I think that for an athlete to be successful for a long time, he needs to have a lot of discipline and no athlete will be able to be better for a long time then stop for some time and come back and have good results, this is something difficult because times change and sport is something that the more you practice the more your skills improve and the less you practice your skills disappear

The money is different from the winning. Because winning will give you the satisfaction. When you made amount if this gambling. The spot’s bet was enough for the people to win and earn from the game also. Who say no to money by playing and for this reason. We found huge money  from the gambling games. The game was enough for the people from the environment.

I’m really not surprised at his odds and I wouldn’t be surprised about any of the odds moving forward until he shows that he’s recovered enough from his recent car accident to be able to compete at the highest level. Tiger being good is always better for the sport so I do hope he recovers sooner than later and is able to become at least a little bit of his old self.

I think the legendary of Tigerwood faded earlier than expected that happened exactly when he was at his peak after he had a divorce with his ex wife Elin Nordegren in 2010. The divorce that took so much from wood including their home in Windermere about $110 million and child support for the children. Woods career dwindled after that emotional trauma.

However he has a lot of experience as an experienced professional who can make some surprises. Age may not be on his side compared to the young guys on the game but then they say old wine taste better.

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So, his odds against should have been higher,, in fact I only saw one sportbook paying 600/1, perhaps the only one that had the balls to accept the true odds.

Tiger Woods! and his dominance is so much that even in the worst situation   of his career, his chances were not so bad, he is so unmatched talented that the mere act of holding a golf club makes him literally go against the real odds

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Actually, it's not that Tiger Woods has a disadvantage because of age or injuries but his opponents nowadays are really good even Woods is let's say in his prime, these guys can give him a problem and are hard to deal with. It will now end up on a bettor if they think Woods still has it.

Nothing wrong to place a small bet or even risking a big bet for the legend as who knows he might pull the trigger. He might be in their post-prime status but it doesn't mean their winning chance rate is low.

People would ofcourse have their favorite at one time of their lives but that does not mean that it would not be replaced by someone else, he is old ofc and everyone else knows his skills as well but at the same time, one must consider that there are a lot of things that matters and one cannot just pick him he is injured as well and there are also Younger people as well who are going to be more 'talented' and ' successful ' deserves a chance as well therefore whatever happens he would still be a legend and no one can take it away from him but odds are more dependent on current skills but who knows? Let's see!

I think the odds are heavily against Tiger Woods, because Rory McIlroy are on fire. Tiger Woods are shooting several bogeys ...and this is a trigger for him to lose his concentration ...and with a nagging injury, it will almost become too difficult for him to chase the leaders.

The thing is.... Tiger Woods are very disciplined and Southern Hills can be very unpredictable. You might shoot low figures on day 1 and then lose the advantage in the next 2 days.  

In any way... by the time I am typing this.... he might be already out of the running.  

People always like to make a big fuss about age when I think in golf, this matters much less than for example, in football or any other intensive sport which demands full body health and every little ounce of strength.

But again, this is golf we are talking about? I cannot imagine a 20 year old would have much of an advantage over a 30 year old in swinging his golf club. Its not really that intense of a sport, if it can even be called a sport...

I do not know much about Tiger Woods but unless he has gathered some debilitating injuries over the years which put him at a large disadvantage or he is nearing 70, then I doubt his skill will have dropped all that much.

Exactly. If they feel that they still have it, they would probably still compete no matter what. Also, it's like giving the rising stars a chance to prove their skills and their talents against seasoned veterans of the field. Tiger Woods is still a very capable golfer on his own accord, and even though I have only watched a couple tournaments of him, I believe that his years of expertise and his expertise on golfing can still earn him trophies and tournament wins.

Yes, I see it, but his big victories came in the period 1997-2008 (exception 2019) so I want to say that his presence at the competitions is not dominant and it is unlikely that he will change the chances of other athletes much (however, I am not very good at understanding in golf and I may be wrong, I was only attracted by the topic that he is "the best in history regardless of the sport").

It's actually not a "comeback".

Tiger Woods is very active in Golf events. He is not coming from a big break or what.

This thing is common in any sport. As long as these people feel they still have it, nothing wrong to compete with those rising stars. There are many examples to mention. It's just that obviously, from a big and heavy favorite, they will now be considered an underdog and expect the odds for them will be a decent one that is worth a bet.

Maybe he will pull off a miracle, but people have a habit of holding on to things for far too long. He was an exceptional player in his peak years and should always be admired for that, however he has had some troubles in his personal life since that time and arguably fallen below his prime. He will be a very strong player versus any average golfer but there are a steady stream of top quality golfers coming through the pipeline each year who will be looking to leave their own mark on history, following in the footsteps of this legend. If you are a gambler, then it feels like there are many other better potential candidates who would deserve a bet before defaulting to him.

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oh! The Bata Reyes is good to see that others legends are known, an activity(B8-B9) in which one can also be quite long-lived. His story is incredible and is little known. I think he transcends his story for a good documentary.

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Golf is long-lived, in fact there is the league for people over 50 years old where they play by invitation and you can see  some of those stars of PGA tournaments that are no longer at the first level but continue to give good putts.

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Yes, in effect the matter is that these odds are for a tournament Majors.

I think he is not retiring because he is looking for the record for most wins in the Majors, number one is Jack Nicklaus who has 18 Major championships.

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It is a dilemma because if someone on this planet can go against the odds it is Tiger Woods, the bookmakers practically assure that he will not win, although last year another legend Phil Mickelson won with odds 5 times higher than Tiger Woods this year.

The odds then this year are better for Tiger Woods, who in comparison should be worse than they were for Phil Mickelson, who although he is also a guy already in the twilight of his career, remains more active.

The odds and his formula are always a questionable point, I think that in this case they are rigging a bit with reality, so depending on where you look the odds can be higher, there is a casino that offers odds of 600/1 they are more real with the current situation.

We'll see how it turns out, of course I bet on TW but that's why I would have liked a fairer odds against him

It is very difficult for such an unexpected comeback to happen twice, the first already happened in 2019.

Tiger Woods is the greatest golfer of this generation, second only to Jack Nicklaus of all time.
A lot of people thought he wasn't playing well for a while before the crash due to his previous injuries and his young age and now he's over 46, so anyone with a big name in his sport will have time to quit or get weak. And not only because of injury but age greatly affects his performance which will decline with age.

What is the point of this comeback if he has been surpassed by other players during his active career? Now he has grown old, lost his form and the level of competition has grown significantly, so I have big doubts that he will be able to return not only to triumphant results, but at least to good competitive ones.

^^ He was still considered on the best in any sports, comparable to Michael Jordan of Basketball and Tom Brady of Football because of their approach and mentality towards the game. That they take every challenge and negativity against them and turn it into positive and win against all odds. So who knows? maybe Tiger has still some in his tank to win another tournament at least end his career in a good note.

A little offtopic but I'll say this: I've never been interested in golf, but of course I heard about Tiger Woods. I have great doubts that his dominance is commensurate with other sports, since the number of players who completely devote their lives to golf is much less than chess players, football players, basketball players, etc. I think that if you come up with some kind of universal ELO coefficient for different sports, then Woods will not even be in the hundreds of top athletes.

If I remember correctly, there was a thread about Tigers' comeback in 2019 but I can't find it. Anyhow, after that he suffered another devastating injury so I doubt that he can make a great comeback and win another masters. So I think it's jus about right what are the odds for him this year. It's a long shot, but I wouldn't bet on him though, seems to be that he is already no longer in his prime obviously and golf looks very simple but it is very taxing to the body.

I would bet on him based on the odds,I know it will be difficult now for him knowing his age and condition but he is the best golf player or was the best golf player in the world.Most probably the bookies know more than use when it comes to publishing odds but there are certain times when they make errors as they are humans just like us,it would be nice if we for once take profit from some bookie error when we know that they profit from our errors daily.I don't think the physical condition will impact him a lot so why not give a shot when the odds are good.

I think I agree with you because the age factor and injuries experienced by athletes can reduce their performance in playing sports.
That assumption will make the potential of the athlete unable to bring out his abilities to the fullest and can make him lose.
Nothing lasts forever in this world, and neither does sports.
All of them will surely be replaced by those who are younger and have more abilities than the previous generation.
So it's only natural that the previous generation can experience defeat against the new generation.

It's bound to happen at some point and like what the others have mentioned already the same thing goes with the other good players that are playing different sports. Eventually, their performance will regress, it's already out of their control and I think it's one of the reasons why some players tend to retire early as it's better for them to retire before reaching that point of regression while others prefer to really push it until the end. The odds might not look good for him but it's not the lowest based on what i've seen from the outright markets.

I think most of the people in this forum would agree that age is indeed something we should take onto consideration before betting on someone close to being too old for the game. Some younger players can still play and practice for 8hours a day and grind to make his body fit to a certain point of perfection for the game. Yes, not all of us know Tiger Woods or Golf or both, but in terms of sports in general, the age is always taken onto consideration.

Some might say that Tiger Woods is a legend and his experience and skills on this field is boundless, but we also know that the more you get old the lesser you can be better at something. Even Efren Bata Reyes, Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, all are getting old and cannot be the same person as they are when they where younger. Hence, I cannot say that I wouldn't bet on Tiger Woods, but would consider his current status.

Not just Tiger Woods but there are other big names in Sports who are dominating in their respective sports and later on, they will be against the odds as the Favorite. Not just that they already falling off of their prime but there are always competitors who will try to take their spotlight.

After all, Tiger Woods' reputation will be cemented forever as one of the greats. Placing money for him might be worthy too with the right analysis or just a simple reason that placing a bet for him as a support.

First, most of us really know who Tiger Woods is even if we say we are not familiar with other golfers. I guess, when you say golf, one name that we always connect is Tiger Woods. That's how popular he is. But just like you said, age and other factors will contribute to giving such odds to him. He is not always at his prime in this sports. Just like Pacquiao in boxing. They won't hold the title forever. Let us accept the fact that younger blood will replace them sooner or later.

Definitely it was the age factor + injury that is the main reason for this odds.  Assuming all players has the same skill set, age and injuries always play the bigger part overshadowing experience and other previous achievements.  Tigerwood is a Legend yes, but legends are destined to be replaced by younger bloods or rising star of that field.

Lots of factors to consider, player status, age, injuries regardless if it's minor or major, improving opponents, post-prime performance, etc.

But if you believe in the legendary Tiger Woods and you think he has lots of fuels left in the tank, that's a great opportunity to bet for him as you don't see that kind of odds being put on top players of All-Time on their respective sports.

It's common for great players that are already past their prime as their some rising stars who are now taking the stage.

I think that what happened in the Master of Augusta (2019) excited us all to believe a possible return... an accident "again" changed everything, age and old injuries are taking their toll on one of the greatest athletes of all time, you may not know anything about Golf but you surely know who Tiger Woods is.

The news this time isn't his big chance to win but that for the first time he's up against the odds, even the worst for a first-time Major winner.

Source: https://www.actionnetwork.com/golf/tiger-woods-betting-odds-pga-championship-major-event

There is a possible return of what is considered the most dominant player in the history of golf and even of any sport in its comparison, at the level of stars like Michael Jordan.

I think a withdrawal is seen in the short term at least in the PGA.

WyT?

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