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February 23, 2024, 08:21:21 PM
#73
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This is a forum which means all post here is based on experience of each user and the goal of the thread is to gather data based on experience. This is the best way on acquiring a stats since this thread will serve as a form as survey.

It’s very hard to measure the performance of all the slot games while gathering data from various users based on their experience is good way to get substantial data because no one will give an opinion here about how garbage the slot provider is if they are not.

The other thing is that many people usually like the providers that they use, because they are familiar with them.

Familiarity is very important to us, and that's why switching from one service to another is very difficult.

That's why companies usually offer incentives like money to bring your friends to their business.

It's hard to get a new customer, it's much easier to keep the same ones.
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February 23, 2024, 12:37:20 PM
#72
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While looking to how to default and discriminate some of these site providers, can we also talk about the good side of them? Or do we just have some sorts of grudges over them due to our tough experiences with them?
Maybe we can also pick points of their good sides . Haha!
But if I would suggest, stressing these energies to research and recommend the comfortable providers would be better of. Maybe some of us would want to give it a try because after talking about these worse ones then which would be suit best? We also need the positive side discussions.

You are welcome to share your experience, or you can start a new thread where you can describe your experience with different providers and slots with a positive attitude and you can point out the good sides of each of them. Why not?

As I mentioned in some of my previous comments, all slot providers give and take... my list of "the worst slot providers" is about them taking too much and not giving back, at least not to me. For me, it's simple, if someone is a slot player (a person who plays slot for real, not demo versions) then he must have his favourite providers and slots, and for sure there must be a list of the worst ones.

The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.

It is, of course. And you need to spin those slots to find out which slots are good and bad for you. I guess I should have mentioned at the beginning of this thread that I expect comments from people who actually play slots. It seems to me that there are a lot of philosophers here who just talk about slots without any real experience.
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February 23, 2024, 10:25:30 AM
#71
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.
I agree with you, especially the bold sentences. I feel that because one of my friends really like Pragmatic Play with all of their games. But the other friend say that Pragmatic Play is the worst slot provider because he never get big win. We agree that winning on the slot games need luck so we can't say that one provider is worst for us because other people will not say the same. Worst or not only we can know and if one slot provider is not work for you because you get lose many times, you can moves to the other slot provider. I am sure you can win some money Grin
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February 23, 2024, 07:19:02 AM
#70
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
While looking to how to default and discriminate some of these site providers, can we also talk about the good side of them? Or do we just have some sorts of grudges over them due to our tough experiences with them?
Maybe we can also pick points of their good sides . Haha!
But if I would suggest, stressing these energies to research and recommend the comfortable providers would be better of. Maybe some of us would want to give it a try because after talking about these worse ones then which would be suit best? We also need the positive side discussions.
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Dimon69
February 23, 2024, 06:24:53 AM
#69
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.

This is a forum which means all post here is based on experience of each user and the goal of the thread is to gather data based on experience. This is the best way on acquiring a stats since this thread will serve as a form as survey.

It’s very hard to measure the performance of all the slot games while gathering data from various users based on their experience is good way to get substantial data because no one will give an opinion here about how garbage the slot provider is if they are not.
legendary
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February 23, 2024, 05:55:25 AM
#68
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.
Exactly, the same when we are talking about which casino is the best. The answer will be vary based on the user's experience. It will be hard to find objective answers if we are discussing something like this unless we get the answer from a slot expert who have played most slots by most providers so many times and this slot expert take notes about what is good and bad in each game.
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February 23, 2024, 03:18:33 AM
#67
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.

Sure, but reading opinions of many people usually groups a few good ones and a few bad ones, and you could get an idea of what's going on by using these reviews.

Back in the days reviews were real, but these days many reviews are paid or written by a bot.
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February 23, 2024, 01:01:26 AM
#66
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.

Therefore, mentioned the reason for both likes and dislikes to make it clear for everyone.

Anyhow, for me, it's not the game provider but some of their slot games themselves. There are slot games where Scatter/Bonus Round/Free Spins really sucks. I'm trying to remember a Dragon-kind game (Hold and Win) where Free Spins features are the worst. The only best part is the Hold and Win feature but unfortunately too difficult to achieve.

That's why in terms of the Hold and Win type of game, I only prefer BNG game providers where almost their entire games are like that.
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February 23, 2024, 12:53:51 AM
#65
The topic is subjective. It's important to note that slot providers experiences may vary from perosn to person. What might be the worst provider for one person could be the favorite for another.
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February 22, 2024, 10:38:33 AM
#64
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I don't think that only one game is bad, I feel the same about all Hacksaw games. And I had crazy long streaks of dead spins with all providers, but Hacksaw is just killing me every time I play it. All other providers give and take, sometimes they take more and give less, but Hacksaw is just taking and taking... and in my case, Hacksaw never gave me anything meaningful.

Of course, it's just my opinion and experience, and this topic is about the personal view, each of us who plays slots has an opinion about which ones are best and worst ones. As I said, I saw other people hitting max wins often on Hackasaw, and I bought many expensive bonus rounds on Hacksaw games and got less than x5-x10 10 times in a row... I had pretty bad streaks with other providers, but other providers were not as bad as Hacksaw was too many times.

Yeah, definitely one game is not necessarily what they were hoping to get, but as a single person I guess that is what you mostly refer to.

At the end of the day it is a lot of people involved in this and it might not just be the responsibility of one person, but we would never know.
legendary
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February 20, 2024, 10:32:09 AM
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I believe you have been playing slots for years mate, but I dont understand why you consider a game is the worst just because of 300 spins without bonus round and 100 spins (double chance) without bonus rounds.
I played one of your favorite games few times (Merge Up by Bgaming), I experienced 200 spins with double chance but no bonus round as well.
I experienced the same thing in some other providers such as Pragmatic, Play n Go, Push Gaming, No Limit City etc
Even in Pragmatic Play and Play n Go which can be considered as providers with medium volatility and higher RTP than others, bad luck may come and we may experience no bonus round within few hundred spins.
On the other side, when the good luck comes, we may get few bonus rounds within few tens spins in high volatility slots.
Of course it is your own right to have such an opinion.


I don't think that only one game is bad, I feel the same about all Hacksaw games. And I had crazy long streaks of dead spins with all providers, but Hacksaw is just killing me every time I play it. All other providers give and take, sometimes they take more and give less, but Hacksaw is just taking and taking... and in my case, Hacksaw never gave me anything meaningful.

Of course, it's just my opinion and experience, and this topic is about the personal view, each of us who plays slots has an opinion about which ones are best and worst ones. As I said, I saw other people hitting max wins often on Hackasaw, and I bought many expensive bonus rounds on Hacksaw games and got less than x5-x10 10 times in a row... I had pretty bad streaks with other providers, but other providers were not as bad as Hacksaw was too many times.
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February 20, 2024, 09:27:39 AM
#62
Based on experience, I don't like NetENT, I don't know when playing from this provider, it's difficult for me to get free spins. But this is just from my experience, who has tried games from NetEnt several times. Another provider that I initially i liked, but now is no more, the provider is PGSoft, because most of the free spins I get (from normal spins), are just a lure, with wins often being lower than the buy free spins value. It's much different if compared with at the beginning I choose this provider. of course this might be bad luck for me and the timing is not right. It's the same as when I hated Sweet Bonanza because I felt the same as I experienced with the PGSoft provider.


This is do not reflect the results of other people, because this is only from my experience.
legendary
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February 20, 2024, 09:05:15 AM
#61
That's why Hacksaw is the worst provider of all, I had +300 spins with no bonus and very few big wins. I also played with the "higher bonus chance" feature and did not hit the bonus round in +100 spins. I have been buying bonuses, and all I can say is a complete disaster….

I have said many times that I will never play Hacksaw again, but there comes a moment when something attracts me to try them one more time. I guess it's watching all those "max wins" on social networks, more and more I think they are all sponsored. Anyway, a few weeks back was the last time I decided to try Le Bandit... a total catastrophe! I was playing normal spins, buying bonuses, I even bought 2-3 "All that glitters is gold" bonuses... I ended with a busted bankroll after 20 minutes.

I believe you have been playing slots for years mate, but I dont understand why you consider a game is the worst just because of 300 spins without bonus round and 100 spins (double chance) without bonus rounds.
I played one of your favorite games few times (Merge Up by Bgaming), I experienced 200 spins with double chance but no bonus round as well.
I experienced the same thing in some other providers such as Pragmatic, Play n Go, Push Gaming, No Limit City etc
Even in Pragmatic Play and Play n Go which can be considered as providers with medium volatility and higher RTP than others, bad luck may come and we may experience no bonus round within few hundred spins.
On the other side, when the good luck comes, we may get few bonus rounds within few tens spins in high volatility slots.
Of course it is your own right to have such an opinion.
legendary
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February 20, 2024, 05:07:06 AM
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I was supposed to disagree on this since I made huge wins multiple times on Hacksaw before but recently they started to become shitty provider again by being hard to hit anything even small win. I believe they manage to improve their slot games few months ago but now they are back to being a worst provider.

I definitely don’t recommend this provider to newbie or low bankroll players since even I with medium size bankroll can’t hit anything significant on this provider. I have experience too that I spend 500+ spin without hitting any bonus round or anything greater than x50 multiplier. This provider sucks!

That's why Hacksaw is the worst provider of all, I had +300 spins with no bonus and very few big wins. I also played with the "higher bonus chance" feature and did not hit the bonus round in +100 spins. I have been buying bonuses, and all I can say is a complete disaster….

I have said many times that I will never play Hacksaw again, but there comes a moment when something attracts me to try them one more time. I guess it's watching all those "max wins" on social networks, more and more I think they are all sponsored. Anyway, a few weeks back was the last time I decided to try Le Bandit... a total catastrophe! I was playing normal spins, buying bonuses, I even bought 2-3 "All that glitters is gold" bonuses... I ended with a busted bankroll after 20 minutes.
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February 20, 2024, 04:53:38 AM
#59
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I think that if we see at statistics of all the providers I must admit the one provider who has given the max win more often is without a doubt Pragmatic Play.The other providers may have higher multipliers regarding their max win but surely won't be giving it as often as Pragmatic does.Of course I am talking in default RTP for all slot providers and not for some casinos who alter the RTP and we see something like 0 money during a bonus round in Pragmatic.

Yeah, that's a great point.

Is there any kind of standard for the amount of money paid by the probability of winning, or this number changes dramatically from machine to machine?

I wonder if there's any kind of standard that the casinos must publish. For example, what is the RTP you mention?
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February 20, 2024, 04:12:20 AM
#58
each of them has bad and good experiences in each slot game, why do you say it is bad, because you haven't won it, but if you win you will say that it is a good slot, there is no benchmark for bad and good slots because everyone everyone has their own experiences, I don't think it's bad because maybe it's because you haven't won yet, just try to be patient and enjoy every round

Yeah, if you want to have some kind of benchmark, then you would have to look at statistics, and not a single person playing in a single machine.

The expected return of gambling is negative, that is, the more probable outcome is that you will lose money.

Having said that, it's still fun to gamble, so you could still have a good time and spend some money. And hey, you might have fun and win some extra money.

I think that if we see at statistics of all the providers I must admit the one provider who has given the max win more often is without a doubt Pragmatic Play.The other providers may have higher multipliers regarding their max win but surely won't be giving it as often as Pragmatic does.Of course I am talking in default RTP for all slot providers and not for some casinos who alter the RTP and we see something like 0 money during a bonus round in Pragmatic.
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February 20, 2024, 03:48:44 AM
#57
each of them has bad and good experiences in each slot game, why do you say it is bad, because you haven't won it, but if you win you will say that it is a good slot, there is no benchmark for bad and good slots because everyone everyone has their own experiences, I don't think it's bad because maybe it's because you haven't won yet, just try to be patient and enjoy every round

Yeah, if you want to have some kind of benchmark, then you would have to look at statistics, and not a single person playing in a single machine.

The expected return of gambling is negative, that is, the more probable outcome is that you will lose money.

Having said that, it's still fun to gamble, so you could still have a good time and spend some money. And hey, you might have fun and win some extra money.
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February 18, 2024, 10:18:29 AM
#56
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But if you are really curious about winning the Hacksaw slot game then you can try by actually using the extra money you can afford to lose, this may seem very careless and too bold but it can give an answer to curiosity.
However, if it not possible then don't ever do it because money is also very valuable and can give you feeling of disappointment if everything fails and runs out without any left.
I also like slot games but it is much more possible to have fun when playing at provider of million people, Pragmatic gives us what we want.
Very low betting amounts and also the ease of getting multipliers or free spins, this is more fun and can make for much longer gaming session for just less money.

We just need to look for and use provider who can really provide the pleasure we need, don't force abilities but give regrets in the future.
No, I'm not curious about winning the Hacksaw slot game because I can't afford to use more money, especially if all the money I use will just run out before I can win. I should try to limit slot games and use other providers rather than having to spend more money. That's not feasible for me to do, especially since I'm still trying to reduce my gambling activities. And besides that, I don't want to experience the disappointment of losing a lot of money, and it would feel stupid for me because I can't limit myself to gambling. Pragmatic Play used to be able to give some money, but since there was an update that made it difficult for me to win some money, I left Pragmatic Play for a while.

Yes, by choosing the provider we want, we can enjoy the slot game and won't complain if we lose because it is our choice. Perhaps we can win some money someday, so we just need to limit the amount of money.
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February 18, 2024, 02:22:52 AM
#55
each of them has bad and good experiences in each slot game, why do you say it is bad, because you haven't won it, but if you win you will say that it is a good slot, there is no benchmark for bad and good slots because everyone everyone has their own experiences, I don't think it's bad because maybe it's because you haven't won yet, just try to be patient and enjoy every round
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February 18, 2024, 01:23:29 AM
#54
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Most slot providers gear their slots to big gamblers as they do not care much for the small gamblers.Therefore any slot provider you will see that if you have a huge balance like 1000-2000 dollars will provide you more wins if played with 1 dollar bet rather than someone playing with 100 dollars and 0.20 as bet which is the min bet in many providers.So little gamblers should only try their luck by using IDR as currency and try the buy bonus.
That true, but indeed providers target rich gamblers because there will be much larger turnover of money, even when emotions arise, the betting loss can be very significant and clearly this is the profit that every slot game provider really wants.
However, what needs to be understood is that not all gamblers are people who have more wealth and can use more money in each game session, in gambling small gamblers also take control over percentage of the total number of existing gamblers.
Just look at games that provide small bets which are much more widely used and this can be found on almost all existing gambling sites.

That's the problem where I don't want to add more money to play slot games from Hacksaw because that will increase my losses even more. I should choose another slot game that doesn't require too much money to enjoy the slot game. Moreover, I only play slots in moderation and don't chase wins because getting wins from slot games is very difficult, regardless of the provider. And until now, I have rarely played slot games from the Hacksaw provider because winning is very difficult. I used to play slot games from Pragmatic Play often, but then I realized that slot games from that provider were also difficult to win. This slot game requires a larger amount of money than other gambling games, and because this is gambling, we have to be very careful in choosing the gambling game, not have too high hopes of winning, and just try to enjoy the game.

Slot games from each provider try to provide entertainment for gamblers, so we must realize that we should not try too hard to play them because everything depends on our luck. If we are lucky, we can definitely win, but if not, we will not be able to win, and most gamblers have already experienced defeat. And we should limit our slot games so that we don't experience more losses.
But if you are really curious about winning the Hacksaw slot game then you can try by actually using the extra money you can afford to lose, this may seem very careless and too bold but it can give an answer to curiosity.
However, if it not possible then don't ever do it because money is also very valuable and can give you feeling of disappointment if everything fails and runs out without any left.
I also like slot games but it is much more possible to have fun when playing at provider of million people, Pragmatic gives us what we want.
Very low betting amounts and also the ease of getting multipliers or free spins, this is more fun and can make for much longer gaming session for just less money.

We just need to look for and use provider who can really provide the pleasure we need, don't force abilities but give regrets in the future.
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February 16, 2024, 10:06:48 AM
#53
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
Hacksaw I do agree, it's really hard to hit the bonus, game like "Wanted Dead or a Wild". But I love those even if it very hard to hit the bonus, because once you hit it, chances are it might give you a good return as per may experience. Experience if you got those in the 5x5, for sure gonna be huge multiplier  Grin. I'm not familiar with Wazdan though. But I guess 'worst slot provider' will not be the term here, it could be their RNG and it really will take a lot of luck in your side to really hit that bonus and then hope that you will get a lot of multipliers to win big.
There is no hard or easy thing if we talk about the chance to hit bonus, it is based on your luck 100%.
Even if you play in providers with low volatility and higher RTP, it does not give guarantee that it will give you bigger chance to hit bonus round.
I've played many different providers and all are mostly the same, sometime a provider could give me more bonus round but it could give no bonus round as well after several hundred spins.
Worst of best should not be based on our experience but it should be about how good is the UI, speed, features, etc.
If we consider a provider is the worst is because our experience especially just low experience, then I can say that all providers can be the worst.
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February 16, 2024, 08:32:08 AM
#52
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You need more money to be able to play longer if you choose Hacksaw provider to play, there the minimum bet amount is quite large and if you only have small amount of money then you will lose all the money without any wins that can be said worthy.
I feel that the slot games in the Hacksaw provider will only be able to be won by gamblers who are generous and able to use big money to really win, this is a real thing that I also experienced.
I tried the slot game provided by Hacksaw several times out of curiosity because it was difficult to win, but in the end all attempts to play failed and only left me with frustration because I lost the entire money deposited without any return.
Actually slots are games that have RTP, but in games provided by Hacksaw, it seems that RTP really doesn't apply and this is the most difficult game in slots.

But I wouldn't say that Hacksaw is the worst slot game provider because many big gamblers are loyal to this type of slot game, those who are able to play well will get big wins.
I will just say that the games in the Hacksaw provider are not the right kind of games for those little gamblers.
That's the problem where I don't want to add more money to play slot games from Hacksaw because that will increase my losses even more. I should choose another slot game that doesn't require too much money to enjoy the slot game. Moreover, I only play slots in moderation and don't chase wins because getting wins from slot games is very difficult, regardless of the provider. And until now, I have rarely played slot games from the Hacksaw provider because winning is very difficult. I used to play slot games from Pragmatic Play often, but then I realized that slot games from that provider were also difficult to win. This slot game requires a larger amount of money than other gambling games, and because this is gambling, we have to be very careful in choosing the gambling game, not have too high hopes of winning, and just try to enjoy the game.

Slot games from each provider try to provide entertainment for gamblers, so we must realize that we should not try too hard to play them because everything depends on our luck. If we are lucky, we can definitely win, but if not, we will not be able to win, and most gamblers have already experienced defeat. And we should limit our slot games so that we don't experience more losses.
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February 16, 2024, 06:32:06 AM
#51
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
Hacksaw I do agree, it's really hard to hit the bonus, game like "Wanted Dead or a Wild". But I love those even if it very hard to hit the bonus, because once you hit it, chances are it might give you a good return as per may experience. Experience if you got those in the 5x5, for sure gonna be huge multiplier  Grin. I'm not familiar with Wazdan though. But I guess 'worst slot provider' will not be the term here, it could be their RNG and it really will take a lot of luck in your side to really hit that bonus and then hope that you will get a lot of multipliers to win big.

I was supposed to disagree on this since I made huge wins multiple times on Hacksaw before but recently they started to become shitty provider again by being hard to hit anything even small win. I believe they manage to improve their slot games few months ago but now they are back to being a worst provider.

I definitely don’t recommend this provider to newbie or low bankroll players since even I with medium size bankroll can’t hit anything significant on this provider. I have experience too that I spend 500+ spin without hitting any bonus round or anything greater than x50 multiplier. This provider sucks!
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February 16, 2024, 06:12:20 AM
#50
I think it's hard to realize who should be blamed.
The odds and RTP, volatility, the game graphics, payout structure, multipliers etc. are all set by the company that makes the slots. Same goes for the randomness, seeds etc as the slots run in their server.
However, it's also partly the responsibility of the casino to disseminate this information to the players. For example, many casinos will not properly inform about the odds of winning or volatility.

I chose to play at casinos that display the most information possible about their games. Not showing house edge and RTP is not good yet it happens very often. The slots providers give these info to the casino but often the casino doesn't give it to the player. Ideally there should be even MORE information. Like showing which multiplier combinations are possible and how often they're hit each.
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February 16, 2024, 05:46:31 AM
#49
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
Hacksaw I do agree, it's really hard to hit the bonus, game like "Wanted Dead or a Wild". But I love those even if it very hard to hit the bonus, because once you hit it, chances are it might give you a good return as per may experience. Experience if you got those in the 5x5, for sure gonna be huge multiplier  Grin. I'm not familiar with Wazdan though. But I guess 'worst slot provider' will not be the term here, it could be their RNG and it really will take a lot of luck in your side to really hit that bonus and then hope that you will get a lot of multipliers to win big.
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February 16, 2024, 05:41:42 AM
#48
It doesn't mean when games aren't working in your favour you say they are not good for others because there are lot of gamblers who's betting on those games you just mentioned and they are winning and also collecting the bonuses, even though it's not all the time but the winning rates and the losing rates might be the same or one of them will be more heavier than the other.
Moreover I haven't tried any of those games which you mentioned but as people are saying they are not working well for them I think it's just good to avoid them.
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February 16, 2024, 05:04:37 AM
#47
I think that Hacksaw is very frustrating because the chances of winning, especially winning big, is much lower than the rest in OP's list of worst slot providers. I don't know the exact numbers or probabilities but it definitely is not just a feeling at this point. Its actually tangible. And looking at all the replies in this topic, most people seem to agree with that assessment. The slot provider should have included more bonuses, I think.

Some people here claim that while winning is rare, when you do win, you win big. I have not had such an experience yet, though.

Push also has low bonuses.

Although I think there are probably worse providers that are not in OP's list.



The provider with less max wins than most others is surely Play n Go.They are very well aware of such fact and that is why lately they are producing slots with x40.000 or more possible max win and now with such slots they tend to be in the same line of other providers that offer most of x10.000 max wins like Pragmatic or Hacksaw and x10000 is somewhat easier to get in a slot that the max win is x40000.

On another note on Hacksaw it is true that when you win you hit it huge.Just see at the number of people playing their most popular slot "Wanted dead or a wild" and how a big number of people have hit it huge there.
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February 16, 2024, 04:36:26 AM
#46
I think that Hacksaw is very frustrating because the chances of winning, especially winning big, is much lower than the rest in OP's list of worst slot providers. I don't know the exact numbers or probabilities but it definitely is not just a feeling at this point. Its actually tangible. And looking at all the replies in this topic, most people seem to agree with that assessment. The slot provider should have included more bonuses, I think.

Some people here claim that while winning is rare, when you do win, you win big. I have not had such an experience yet, though.

Push also has low bonuses.

Although I think there are probably worse providers that are not in OP's list.

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Hacksaw is a provider of slots that are very difficult to win. I've tried it in slot games from the Hacksaw provider but have never won big. Perhaps it's just a small win that doesn't even break. But I might still try playing slots from this Hacksaw provider, and hopefully, I can be lucky and get a big win.

No-Limit providers also find it difficult to win their slot games. But even so, I once earned two decent returns that exceeded my break-even point. And after that, it was very rare for me to win. But slot games from any provider will definitely be difficult to win because this slot game depends on the luck we have.
You need more money to be able to play longer if you choose Hacksaw provider to play, there the minimum bet amount is quite large and if you only have small amount of money then you will lose all the money without any wins that can be said worthy.
I feel that the slot games in the Hacksaw provider will only be able to be won by gamblers who are generous and able to use big money to really win, this is a real thing that I also experienced.
I tried the slot game provided by Hacksaw several times out of curiosity because it was difficult to win, but in the end all attempts to play failed and only left me with frustration because I lost the entire money deposited without any return.
Actually slots are games that have RTP, but in games provided by Hacksaw, it seems that RTP really doesn't apply and this is the most difficult game in slots.

But I wouldn't say that Hacksaw is the worst slot game provider because many big gamblers are loyal to this type of slot game, those who are able to play well will get big wins.
I will just say that the games in the Hacksaw provider are not the right kind of games for those little gamblers.

Most slot providers gear their slots to big gamblers as they do not care much for the small gamblers.Therefore any slot provider you will see that if you have a huge balance like 1000-2000 dollars will provide you more wins if played with 1 dollar bet rather than someone playing with 100 dollars and 0.20 as bet which is the min bet in many providers.So little gamblers should only try their luck by using IDR as currency and try the buy bonus.
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February 16, 2024, 04:16:31 AM
#44
Hacksaw is a provider of slots that are very difficult to win. I've tried it in slot games from the Hacksaw provider but have never won big. Perhaps it's just a small win that doesn't even break. But I might still try playing slots from this Hacksaw provider, and hopefully, I can be lucky and get a big win.

No-Limit providers also find it difficult to win their slot games. But even so, I once earned two decent returns that exceeded my break-even point. And after that, it was very rare for me to win. But slot games from any provider will definitely be difficult to win because this slot game depends on the luck we have.
You need more money to be able to play longer if you choose Hacksaw provider to play, there the minimum bet amount is quite large and if you only have small amount of money then you will lose all the money without any wins that can be said worthy.
I feel that the slot games in the Hacksaw provider will only be able to be won by gamblers who are generous and able to use big money to really win, this is a real thing that I also experienced.
I tried the slot game provided by Hacksaw several times out of curiosity because it was difficult to win, but in the end all attempts to play failed and only left me with frustration because I lost the entire money deposited without any return.
Actually slots are games that have RTP, but in games provided by Hacksaw, it seems that RTP really doesn't apply and this is the most difficult game in slots.

But I wouldn't say that Hacksaw is the worst slot game provider because many big gamblers are loyal to this type of slot game, those who are able to play well will get big wins.
I will just say that the games in the Hacksaw provider are not the right kind of games for those little gamblers.
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#43
I don’t want to start a topic just to share my experience on a bad slot provider so I just want to drop my experience here to bump this thread and avoid multiple thread for same discussion.

I recently discovered a local online casino in my country using a mobile wallet app and I become gullible to try slot games from unknown providers. I want to specifically brought up here JILI and FA Chai provider since most of their slot games is bullshit and not even worthy to try. Most of their games offers only x1000 max win in average while the volatility is too high on this game which is very hard to win even small on normal spin.

I notice that this provider is already starting to spread even on big crypto casino here which I forgot the name. But beware on using this provider because it will just drain your bankroll hard without giving much return.
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#42
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
I will not argue with Hacksaw as from my own experience and yes the worst ever though this is just about the listed and our experiences but now about all of the Slot provider in the world and about the experience of others.

second to my list is No-Limit , similar problem with my friend that  not even going with their fairplay , in which what needed in slot machines that we are not allow to see what is happening inside the machine but just the result is what given to us.
Hacksaw is a provider of slots that are very difficult to win. I've tried it in slot games from the Hacksaw provider but have never won big. Perhaps it's just a small win that doesn't even break. But I might still try playing slots from this Hacksaw provider, and hopefully, I can be lucky and get a big win.

No-Limit providers also find it difficult to win their slot games. But even so, I once earned two decent returns that exceeded my break-even point. And after that, it was very rare for me to win. But slot games from any provider will definitely be difficult to win because this slot game depends on the luck we have.
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#41
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
I will not argue with Hacksaw as from my own experience and yes the worst ever though this is just about the listed and our experiences but now about all of the Slot provider in the world and about the experience of others.

second to my list is No-Limit , similar problem with my friend that  not even going with their fairplay , in which what needed in slot machines that we are not allow to see what is happening inside the machine but just the result is what given to us.
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December 08, 2023, 09:14:13 PM
#40
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I highly agree, it is best to compare their implemented features or how this games are presented.  Because if we base the worst provider due to personal experience of losses, as stated, every provider will be the worst subjectively.

Slots game that have slow phase sucks.  Because it only waste time due to its sluggish animation, and presentation.  I like fast phase slots game because it saves us a lot of time whether we win a jackpot or emptied our bankroll, it can happen in a flash with fast phase slots game.  This way, we only lose money if we are unlucky an not much of time consumption.

Yeah, it absolutely depends on what we are talking about to define best/worst.

Maybe the user experience is great, but there are not enough games, or maybe the games are fun but it's a pain to withdraw your money, etc.

There are many factors that would influence this. On top of personal wins/losses of course.
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So the "worst" here is based on our experience while playing the games and looking at the result we got? If it is so, all providers can be the worst because we will have our bad luck time when we do not get nice hit after so many spins. When the luck comes, the providers that we have labelled as worst can be good because we get nice hits frequently?  I would prefer to say good or bad for slots game based on its UI, music theme, features, speed, etc. In this case I will say Betsoft as the worst because the game is slow, although there is quick spin mode but it does not speed up the game much. The features are also less compared to other providers such as game replay, buy bonus, etc.

I highly agree, it is best to compare their implemented features or how this games are presented.  Because if we base the worst provider due to personal experience of losses, as stated, every provider will be the worst subjectively.

Slots game that have slow phase sucks.  Because it only waste time due to its sluggish animation, and presentation.  I like fast phase slots game because it saves us a lot of time whether we win a jackpot or emptied our bankroll, it can happen in a flash with fast phase slots game.  This way, we only lose money if we are unlucky an not much of time consumption.
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December 08, 2023, 06:43:30 PM
#38
To be honest, I'm not that dominant in exploring every slot game provider. However, because of my first introduction to Pragmatic playing slot games, I indirectly tend to prefer games from Pragmatic providers. although actually, I tried several times with other providers and just wanted to experience a different sensation. but because we tend to have habitual patterns, indirectly the initial game is what I tend to play.

Apart from that, there are many ups and downs in my experience from the Pragmatic game provider. When I'm unlucky, no matter what game I play, the result is the same. that is, lose quickly. or even within a week or more, I always experience defeat. I'm a little annoyed, but this is a slot game. and I'm sure the pattern is the same even though the providers are different. well, at least there is a slight difference.

But I can't deny that from playing Pragmatic, I've had some good shots. if I have experienced defeat for days, and vice versa. I was lucky to be given a win in a few days even though I had won the previous day. Not infrequently, I get Maxwin in several games. and this is what makes me rarely play from other providers. Although in reality, the slot option is still a side game of sports betting that I like more.
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I will not be surprised if someone's choice is another person's best slot provider.

It is normal that what is good for the goose may not also good for the gander. What is another man's poison is another man's food. If a particular slot Provider is generally not good it will be out of business because nobody will patronise them because of their general bad service.
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December 08, 2023, 06:32:38 PM
#36
Pragmatic ~XD

You want to know why, the max win can be won with over 10,000 - 20,000 multiplier. However, their slot only have maximum 5,000 multiplier max win ~XD. It's just really annoying for us, but still they're most playable slot from the community.

Even with a low max win multiplier.
This is not a surprise anymore, they have a lower max multiplier and i also don’t know if you can even win on that game provider. Some gamblers are not looking for the provider as they want to gamble and play the slot machine as easy and fast as possible. Knowing what’s the best game provider can actually increase your chance of winning, especially if you choose the most generous provider on a good platform too.

i can say, pragmatic is indeed one of the popular providers out there but it doesn't mean they have very good features. with the OP's poll, maybe we can get some insights on which providers are better ones. or at least will give you better results. though we can't say, we will win on them, but at least the community sentiments will give us ideas on where to try our next slot session to.
though i can say, each game is different from the other players. but i guess, this is giving us how we feel on each provider as we played our games. there may be basis on why we said such assessment based mostly on experience and the values presented to the community, but in my opinion, just follow your gut feel. after all, this game is a luck-based game. but no harm done, if you will avoid those known worst slot providers. maybe you will be lucky trying the lesser evil among them... Grin
with the long list of slot providers these days, hard to choose now when you are in front of your games. i don't think a lot of gamblers are indeed having mindset on which provider to play before they even sit to start their session. usually, at least for me, i just play on random ones, or on where i am comfortable with already.
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December 08, 2023, 06:13:06 PM
#35
Pragmatic ~XD

You want to know why, the max win can be won with over 10,000 - 20,000 multiplier. However, their slot only have maximum 5,000 multiplier max win ~XD. It's just really annoying for us, but still they're most playable slot from the community.

Even with a low max win multiplier.

The majority of users still prefer pragmatic games only because they are among the first that they learned about and because they do not pay attention to knowing the maximum profit and its conditions. I also consider Pragmatics to be one of the worst games, even though I am not a big fan of online games and prefer sports betting. But the few times I tried some of them were with Pragmatics games where I spent a large amount of money and had no luck winning anything. Lol
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Pragmatic ~XD

You want to know why, the max win can be won with over 10,000 - 20,000 multiplier. However, their slot only have maximum 5,000 multiplier max win ~XD. It's just really annoying for us, but still they're most playable slot from the community.

Even with a low max win multiplier.
This is not a surprise anymore, they have a lower max multiplier and i also don’t know if you can even win on that game provider. Some gamblers are not looking for the provider as they want to gamble and play the slot machine as easy and fast as possible. Knowing what’s the best game provider can actually increase your chance of winning, especially if you choose the most generous provider on a good platform too.
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December 08, 2023, 04:14:38 PM
#33
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
Of the providers listed so far, Wazdan is the worst IMO. I've had some good wins on hacksaw, just gotta spin alot. Lots of the bonuses pay crap, but when a hacksaw slot hit, it hits for massive money.

I agree on Hacksaw but they have a minimum bet higher than Pragmatic and that is why they can be considered worse than Pragmatic at a certain attempt,nevertheless now lately all Pragmatic slots are shit in the full meaning of the word and everybody is complaining about them,I don't know what happened to their RTP but sounds like an immediate change,max wins used to happen the more often in this provider than in any other,now it is not happening anymore.In this context Hacksaw is better,they are well known to be extremely volatile and they have always been like that,so based on this between the two Pragmatic is worse while for the worse of all there are tons of them.
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December 08, 2023, 04:01:45 PM
#32
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
Of the providers listed so far, Wazdan is the worst IMO. I've had some good wins on hacksaw, just gotta spin alot. Lots of the bonuses pay crap, but when a hacksaw slot hit, it hits for massive money.
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December 08, 2023, 03:58:38 PM
#31
Yep, all people in this world who play slots (online) must be know and ever play Sweet Bonanza but still we never see anyone get the max multiplier 21000x.
And maybe nobody even hit 10000x multiplier on that slot.

Pragmatic, Spinomenal and Playtech will be on my list. But I have to admit that sometimes I still play pragmatic slots. Idk why, maybe because of the visual?
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December 08, 2023, 03:31:43 PM
#30
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley

I will go with Hacksaw gaming, yeah, I do agree that it's hard to win bonus rounds, regardless of how small or how big you (max bet) you put into their games. And you really have that luck in your side to win big against them.

And if I hit the bonus round, I feel very excited because I' thinking that I might get a good returns.

However, I will just get like a return of money or capital from that bonus. Although I will admit that their games are really that exciting and maybe this is the reason why people still prefer them even they are worst in terms of round pays.
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December 08, 2023, 12:49:00 PM
#29
Pragmatic ~XD

You want to know why, the max win can be won with over 10,000 - 20,000 multiplier. However, their slot only have maximum 5,000 multiplier max win ~XD. It's just really annoying for us, but still they're most playable slot from the community.

Even with a low max win multiplier.
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December 08, 2023, 11:35:45 AM
#28
I do not know Wazdan but I have stumbled upon a comment telling how bad Hacksaw was.
So, maybe they are really bad same as how you described it? I have tried them in the past too and my results are very poor.

Despite of it, there are videos and streams showing how they win huge on the games under this provider.
Oh well, I guess most of them are just fake and created to trap users. Other than that, streamers do also have loads of money (if not unlimited).

So, there is a high chance that they will see that big win in the game. Next on the list would be NoLimit City. Most of their games has a high max multiplier. Making winning extra difficult even on lower multipliers.
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#27
I've only tried half of the providers listed in the poll and the worst ones for me are Hacksaw and Pragmatic, i'd still play them once in a while it's just that the games coming from them are too grindy, it requires so many spins before it gives something good. I guess it doesn't suit my playstyle because you have to keep playing until the end, and i'm the type that would quickly switch to another game when I have a feeling that the current game I play won't pay out anymore.
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December 05, 2023, 04:42:15 PM
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Actually, for me, Hacksaw isn't that bad, but Wazdan, which I've never won, means I rarely play it. But from the list of choices written by @ OP, I still play slots from the Pragmatic provider, but @ OP can add Play'N Go because this slot provider can sometimes be annoying, especially if I often lose hahaha.

But we have to remember that if we often lose when playing slots, it is because we don't have the luck that can help us win. So it's normal if we often complain that if we play slots from certain providers, we still experience losses more often than we win.
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December 05, 2023, 08:51:59 AM
#25
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley

Push Gaming is the worst slot provider for me. Most of their games has an unfair number of free spin count while the buy bonus value is always x100 compared to other slot provider that just use x100 of base bet for the buy bonus.

Aside from overprice buy bonus, Their free spin usually too volatile that you can win nothing out of expensive buy bonus which is really not worth it. Their game shas tons of animation but less payout. This slot game provider is just good on providing good game graphics but very frequent to pay. This provider is worst than hacksaw.
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December 05, 2023, 08:22:33 AM
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TBH, from the Hacksaw provider I have had a winning streak even though it was only around $55, but I would not judge this provider to be very bad because this provider usually has high volatility which makes it very difficult to achieve large multipliers.
and for the Wazdan provider believe it or not I have made a profit in every game worth $10 and after getting $10 I always change the type of game and get the same results. so I won't say if this provider is bad.
but after that I rarely bet on these two providers because I was interested in Play N Go and also Pragmatic which is currently my mainstay but unfortunately I left slot games a few months ago.

actually its all just about luck and its natural that you say the provider you say is very bad when you often lose and you will say this provider is good when you win. Roll Eyes
and I think other people will feel the same way and will say the same thing.
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December 05, 2023, 08:21:10 AM
#23
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

I experienced the opposite, Haksaw is one of my favorite providers because it gave me some nice hits although I have never hit max win.
Both normal spins and buy bonus gave me better experience than Pragmatic recently, because I got like 7 times in a row buy on Pragmatic which gave me like less than 10% of what I spent for the bonus.
In fact, Pragmatic is also one of my favorite providers since I hit maxwin few times but seems that this provider is on its COLD/FREEZE session recently.
I have played many slot games from many different providers and I will not call one of them as the worst just because it give me bad outcome in one or few of my gambling session.
Slots just like other luck based game, it may give us good outcome and it may give us so bad outcome.
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December 05, 2023, 08:09:42 AM
#22
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley

I guess many people will base thus on their personal anecdotes.

If someone won big at one company, they will probably mention it as a great one.

And if they lost big, they might say it was crap.

In reality most slots algorithms are similar, as they have to be validated as random.
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December 05, 2023, 08:06:12 AM
#21
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
I have tried several of the providers above, but among the 5 providers that make me no longer want to play are wazdan, ELK and No Limit. haksaw and pragmatic are still pretty good and to be honest I'll probably stick with some of pragmatic games at least the bets there are very cheap. Currently I have a target to explore all the games available on pragmatic. The appearance and music are friendlier and the possibility of big wins makes pragmatic more popular than other providers.
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December 05, 2023, 08:05:36 AM
#20
I have this love and hate story with Novomatic I have been so luck and so unlucky with them most times, but there is something that never wrong with them though, I can't help but keep playing them even though I hardly win at times.

For me, it depends on my feelings on the experience I get from the providers, it's all about the fun for me and that's what keep me coming back.

NetEnt has also been some hit and miss relations but they are pretty substantial, their classes have always been the best but not that good with their new releases, sometimes I just feel like I can trust them even more.

I strongly believe that Pragmatic is possibly the worst of them all, it's like an impossible land to all dreamers, there is always something completely off with their calculations and their games don't always keep me wanting to comeback, the looks are most times a turn off, although not all, sorry if anyone on here is a Pragmatic fan.
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December 05, 2023, 07:50:31 AM
#19
OP, Hacksaw Games are harder to win, because they usually have the highest Variance, but when you play long enough, you will eventually win something more than what you win with Pragmatic games.

In my experience Wazdan gives more frequent small wins, but you also have to play longer before you hit it. I have personally hit more 400x plus wins on Wazdan, than any other slot from all the other Slot providers.  Tongue

I also opt to play Wazdan games when there are a Slot challenge, because it is easier to hit the bigger multipliers if you turbo spin.  Wink
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December 05, 2023, 07:28:54 AM
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Am not a slots kinda of person but after learning about volatility and Return to Player I honestly think it's about choosing the right slot and having an adequate balance to play with... the problem I find with most players is they want to hit big winners in a few rolls which doesn't work..slots are about the long game regardless of how much you wager!!!

So saying there is a good or bad provider doesn't make a valid case, get your playing strategy right and see yourself winning more  Cool
Still, everyday isn't same as it may be a winning day for one player and a losing day for another.
The provider most times may have little to do with such slot results, but if it happens on a consistent basis that winning is impossible or improbable, then you OP may have to forgo such a provider and opt for another that suits your style of playing and stacking.
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December 05, 2023, 07:24:59 AM
#17
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley

Doesn't it depend on game variance? maybe you are unlucky in a round, while another player is lucky?!
I would consider someone who cheats or interrupts a game to be a bad provider.
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Am not a slots kinda of person but after learning about volatility and Return to Player I honestly think it's about choosing the right slot and having an adequate balance to play with... the problem I find with most players is they want to hit big winners in a few rolls which doesn't work..slots are about the long game regardless of how much you wager!!!

So saying there is a good or bad provider doesn't make a valid case, get your playing strategy right and see yourself winning more  Cool
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December 05, 2023, 07:19:18 AM
#15
Why not talk about best slot provider? I mean, based on our individual experience we can name a lot of bad providers but we don't wanna look like we are here to ruin their reputation. But if we discuss about the best slot providers, those who are looking for best experience will be able to get some ideas reading our discussions here.
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December 05, 2023, 07:08:26 AM
#14
I also play slots before but now it was just a waste of time and money for me. I think they are all the same, the way they liquidate our funds were similar. I haven't tried those mentioned by OP but one thing is for sure, I will never play slots again. I have bad experiences with slots so never again.
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December 05, 2023, 07:03:46 AM
#13
I do have a very long hard time winning anything from pragmatic, it's like winning is impossible with pragmatic and I need quitting, now I am using Play'N Go and Hacksaw, I still believe that Hacksaw gives me better result than many others but we all know that Slots game is all about luck, so most times I don't always get pleasant result but when it does come it feels very damn good.

At some point I always pity people that use a lot of money on gambling, if I have use money that's high when I was with Pragmatic I would have probably quit gambling thinking or asking myself what's there in gambling than this? But the trick is using small money that won't get you rekt for a long term play until you luck gets unlocked.

The best thing you can ever do to yourself as a gambler is the tolerance of using little amount of money everytime, if you win it's all good and if you lose it's still going to be fine, it costs you little to nothing, which is way way better than trying to aim for the big wins using significant amount of money.
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December 05, 2023, 05:40:35 AM
#12
I won't say it is the worst because there's a chance I just haven't received any good wins from them yet. Pragmatic it is. I am actually on the brink of hating it forever and not ever playing their slot games anymore but some of their games are so cool that it's difficult to let go. But that's just my opinion, maybe some players got lucky with the said slot provider.
Hacksaw on the other hand gave me a good hit but not like an amount that I will be happy about unlike with other providers that I tried like NoLimit.
Anyway, I think this question is case to case basis. Some may have won a good multi-win in a slot provider that we hate while some will curse them forever and promise to not play any game on that provider.
I like sticking with slots that have enhanced RTP for now. Like Gates of Heaven (Pragmatic) in Stake Exclusives.
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December 05, 2023, 04:47:57 AM
#11
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
It seems you're frustrated with certain online slot casino providers finding it difficult to trigger bonus rounds and expressing disappointment with low payouts. Just like other members saying, I also had a different experience with that slot provider . I had a great multiplier experience with Hacksaw Gaming when I was playing on Roobet. I can't forget it as it was my highest multiplier (x600) playing with the Hand of Anubis game by Hacksaw Gaming with a $1 per spin bet.

I'm not sure if you know the ELK Studio slot provider. For me it was the worst slot provider because I haven't experienced a big multiplier with that provider.
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December 05, 2023, 04:31:18 AM
#10
So the "worst" here is based on our experience while playing the games and looking at the result we got?

Of course, based on our experience... those who play slots have the best and the worst ones for sure. So this topic is for those who actually play slots. Smiley

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I would say Hacksaw is hard to hit, but if you search in YouTube you will see a lot of people who get the max win, a good example is wanted. But if you search a max win in Pragmatic you will not find videos of the max win, or at least not on Sweet Bonanza.

Personally, i used to like ELK provider, but after more than 10k bets never got a max win, so, i stopped playing those slots.

I love ELK, ELK games are special in my opinion... I can't say how many bets/bonus buys I have on ELK and all other slots, and I never experienced max win! Sad

And yes, I saw people winning max payouts on Hacksaw & NoLimit... but for me, these two are a disaster. That Mental took a lot of money from me and never gave me anything, loss after loss.
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December 05, 2023, 04:22:05 AM
#9
I play Slots a lot and to me they are all the same, when I was a beginner I have jump from one Slots game to another and the results are all just the same, maybe few experience because that's the most important part for someone like me, I have played almost all Slots games and I don't care anymore, from Push Gaming to Pragmatic Play, and one day I just decide to stop, to win you need luck on your side and nothing changes this even when you choose different Slots game per day.

I think that those calling these games a scam or worst are those that are hooked by what they are been feed by streamers, imagine using the same platform to gamble as your favorite streamer and you end up with bad result? That's why I don't trust streamers anymore, they always have to be the lucky ones on life streams and people think it's fair, well I don't.

It's not hard to accept the fact that Slots games is all about luck, you can lose a lot of money if care is no taken, that's why you need to risk only what you can afford to lose in any gambling games, not just Slots games only.
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December 05, 2023, 03:19:08 AM
#8
I assume that all slot providers are the same because slot games require luck so whatever slot game you play and from whatever slot provider, it will be difficult to win if you are not lucky. But maybe Hacksaw and Wazdan are slot game providers that have slot games where it is difficult to get big wins even by buying the Bonus feature. I have experienced loss several times, both through normal bonus rounds and paying bonus rounds. But maybe that's because I don't have the luck to get big wins.
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December 04, 2023, 10:43:57 PM
#7
So the "worst" here is based on our experience while playing the games and looking at the result we got? If it is so, all providers can be the worst because we will have our bad luck time when we do not get nice hit after so many spins. When the luck comes, the providers that we have labelled as worst can be good because we get nice hits frequently?  I would prefer to say good or bad for slots game based on its UI, music theme, features, speed, etc. In this case I will say Betsoft as the worst because the game is slow, although there is quick spin mode but it does not speed up the game much. The features are also less compared to other providers such as game replay, buy bonus, etc.
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December 04, 2023, 05:25:08 PM
#6

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley

Honestly, at first I really liked the games from the Pragnatic Play provider. But now I feel that pragmatic is very bad, bad and bad. I can't remember the last time I got a multiplier up to 500x or 1000x. The current pragmatic is not the previous pragmatic, in my opinion pragmatic has become very bad lately and I am starting to avoid PP games. Although difficult, I decided that for now the worst provider is pragmatic
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December 04, 2023, 04:16:17 PM
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I believe each one of us have different experience.  While others are getting hard time in triggering bonus other can easily hit them with just a few spin.  As for Hacksaw I believe it is designed for bonus buy, it is also labeled high to extreme volatility slots so it is understandable that triggers might be difficult on this one, about waszdan, I never played any game from that slots provider so I can't say any experience about that slots.

Anyway if we continue discussing about worst slot, prbably we may list them all since as I stated, different user, different experience and even though many like NoLimit City, I find it worst slots to trigger bonus stage.  The game from this provider often gives their player 0x when they are unlucky.  Grin

Agreed.  If you perennially lose somewhere you will just say they are the worst when in reality your "luck" was the worst at those sites.  I think a better way to attack this is customer service wise are there any casinos you would avoid because you got taken, whether they cheated you out of winnings, locked your account, etc.  Worst casino odds is subjective unless you are talking real audits.
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December 04, 2023, 03:53:19 PM
#4
Pragmatic,Pragmatic,Pragmatic and only Pragmatic.They keep you in the loop in the beginning and soon they destroy you without any mercy in most of the sessions,sure I have hit once or twice the near max win but after that I only remember losing sessions after losing sessions.

The only good they have is that they let you play long enough as they have the minimum bet better than those other providers,so after all it is not that bad as some times you hit over x1000 to over x9000 which can be a consolation to your playing.
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December 04, 2023, 03:36:22 PM
#3
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley

I would say Hacksaw is hard to hit, but if you search in YouTube you will see a lot of people who get the max win, a good example is wanted. But if you search a max win in Pragmatic you will not find videos of the max win, or at least not on Sweet Bonanza.

Personally, i used to like ELK provider, but after more than 10k bets never got a max win, so, i stopped playing those slots.
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December 04, 2023, 03:27:16 PM
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I believe each one of us have different experience.  While others are getting hard time in triggering bonus other can easily hit them with just a few spin.  As for Hacksaw I believe it is designed for bonus buy, it is also labeled high to extreme volatility slots so it is understandable that triggers might be difficult on this one, about waszdan, I never played any game from that slots provider so I can't say any experience about that slots.

Anyway if we continue discussing about worst slot, prbably we may list them all since as I stated, different user, different experience and even though many like NoLimit City, I find it worst slots to trigger bonus stage.  The game from this provider often gives their player 0x when they are unlucky.  Grin
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December 04, 2023, 02:49:50 PM
#1
I will start with Hacksaw and Wazdan... In my experience, these two are the worst of them all! Almost impossible to hit some bonus round with normal spins, and most bonus rounds pays under x10...

But as you suggest more providers I will add them to the poll. So let's find the worst provider ever! Smiley
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