Disclaimer.Only the Themos can remove this topic!If another person does it, I'll find a way to contact theymos and let him know. After removal, I will post this article on my resources so that the article is available to the community. Alternative forums(
https://golos.io/ru--bitkoijn/@borishaifa2/luchshie-forumy-po-kriptovalyute) and social media are already quite a lot and the reputation of the forum will be known to all, from newbie to managers of companies starting their business related to the blockchain. I hope that there will be a constructive discussion of the problem and that we will not all have to take extreme measures.
Intro.I’m “newbie”. I'm writing this topic in a place reserved for newbies. Now it will be my main account. I started a trial account while studying the bounty system and working on the forum. Also, it’ll be an obvious example. You will see that a newbie can’t do anything so far he until he writes a necessary number of messages. So, let's begin…
Story.I’ll not lie if I say that the BTT has become a historical place and the birthplace of the cryptocurrency movement. Virtually the first place where enthusiasts, experts, and fans could discuss the emergence of a new technology. They could to discuss and form ways to use it. They gave arise a new movement for earning money and realizing new ideas. This can't be taken that away from this forum and it will forever fit into history. Over time, being morally obsolete, phbb from the influx of people no longer able coping with their functions. And it was introduced the merit system. The quantity of merit at the user had to separate newbies and "useless" users from the guru and geeks of community. This rank system didn’t last long. Why? About this below. I’ll only say that to me as a person who came from the "normal" Internet, this system seemed wild and non-viable. The times when only the initiates understood what's what, passed. This separation became inappropriate in 2017. Now we are in the latter part of 2018.
In September 2018, the forum management decided to lower the rank of users without merit to the level of newbies. No awards- you're a newbie. In their opinion, this should stop the influx of generated accounts that do not benefit the forum and are used only for signature. One experienced user could manage from 40 to 100 accounts at a time. And to give each account a merit you need to try very hard. At the same time, it will sharply reduce the number of low-quality accounts. But in the long term, it's just new rules of the game.
The system of merit doesn't work. My example.By design, rewarding the user with merit occurs when it will be useful for the forum and all cryptocommunity as a whole. A good comment or an interesting topic - and other users will gratuitously appreciate the efforts of such a user. It doesn't work! Where money keeps rolling, there is no place for philanthropy. Merits don't give simply just like that. Merits are selling.
Yes, you must write a good comment or create a useful post. But tentatively you must agree with the seller of merits, that he "appreciates" your efforts. Otherwise, your topic will drown in the world of spam BTT. You’ll say that's not so? Well, let's play this game.
Here's an example of my topic, that I created specifically for this experiment.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45 .. - English forum
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45 .. - Russian forum
If after this article they aren't removed, you will see them. The topic in the Russian thread was listlessly supported. Apparently, it’s difficult for the philistine, who came to do the signature, but he's not using his head for thinking. The topic in the English version simply drowned without the attention of society.
Newbie-legend. Limited opportunities for a newbie. Resale of legends.Being a newbie you can’t do anything! And it's not about a signature. You sit in the sandbox and type messages to have a chance to be heard. For me, it was a shock at first. My topic-question about Telegram was removed as unclaimed. A message on the topic, where I wrote past the branch of the newbies was erased with showing me my place. Yes, there's Cooper-member. For the money. Bought and write wherever you want. Why I need it? I don’t promote my company, and to help less experienced users, I don't need it. A concept the legend and younger ranks are erased long ago. Accounts are resold. The history is silent about how they were accessed. Someone is tired of communicating here. Someone has the excess account. Someone was hacked. It essentially doesn’t change. At the helm of a high rank can sit the schoolchild, who didn’t even know how to write correctly. And not to mention, to understand something. You look at the message history of such a legend and see that in 2016 he wrote interesting things, and in 2018 - frank nonsense. And judge for yourself, that now high ranks know, that isn't known by the others? All information is available everywhere for a long time. The internal workings of the resales? No, thank you! I don’t wish to participate in that and I'm not interested in investing in accounts when I can invest in something else. Starting with shares, ending with the cryptocurrency.
Signature.10-15 messages per week. Most companies and managers have such requirements to the forum participants. What does this mean for the user? You insert a special code under your account and thereby advertise the company, regularly write on the forum.
Advertising.
A good decision in a world where authorities have an advantage. With your rank, you show that you understand the subject. And your signature shows what it’s worth paying attention to.
It doesn't work anymore!
We can open the list of the most successful participants of projects and see that it isn't obligatory to be a legend to choose the right projects. In the top 3 no one legend!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Da6KjXk26e0iK7JJo7E0cWKWQHScp6DpQQmQy9YfvX0/edit#gid=0Merit. Merits TradeThe system of merits was stillborn. And the creators who came up with this method of encouragement were short-sighted. It impression that they have not seen the rest of the Internet ever and have been forced to come up with something own.
Look at the forum participants and you will see solid round numbers 10, 100, 500. what is the probability that a person has earned exactly such a number their merits? Participants with a non-round number of merits are significantly less. Why is this happening? Why pay more than you need to a new rank? This is the market and the ranks here are a tool for making money. You bought an expensive tool or developed your own, you earn more.
Reminds the MMORPG with donating. You can sit wasting an insane amount of time for pumping the character and conglomerating with contacts and assistants. Or you can buy ready-made equipment to bend the enemy without making great efforts. Do you think this is a game?
Signature from the point of view of companiesOK. I decided to start my company. I have an idea associated with blockchain and payment in cryptocurrency or tokens. Or I decided to modify the existing business under new realities.
I understand the trends or I have a consultant. I will choose the forum-center of the cryptocommunity and invite the participants with a high rank to wear the signature, advertising my project.
Who will wear it? An old-timer of the forum? A schoolboy who bought an account? Or still maybe a person with a good reputation and authority? A man whose opinion people will listen. A man who did and said many important things. What do you think?
And now look around. Climb out of your hole and look at the world. The world is full of advertising. And if there is a significant weight of social networks and media, the narrowly focused forum fades in their background. More and more platforms for bounty are emerging. And companies start working with them directly. Communicating with platform managers and signing contracts with them.
A little time will pass and the signatures pool will decrease in favor of other ways of advertising. The forum will cease to be a place for specialists in the minds of people. It was the place where these specialists left and went their own projects.
And no project will bet on the forum. There will be small rewards, so to speak, to reach for the audience. And users will look for a new place where are located authoritative people.
Karma (examples of other sites, habr, reddit)Now, what I can do? "This is inevitable and while it works, you need to gain the loot" many will say. No, guys. Everything has already been invented and everything works as it should with those or other nuances.
Take the model Reddit or habr.com.
the first-largest world service.
https://www.reddit.com/second-Russian resource. On its platform, blogs are world brands. Starting with Microsoft and ending with IBM. habr.com/info/help/karma/ (
https://habr.com/company/ibm/ https://habr.com/company/microsoft/)
The system of karma allows you to encourage users to write the right and useful things and reduce the merits of those who are useless and even harmful. A sudden jump in the growth or fall of karma can be tracked by the administrators and settled.
If a user performing a signature writes a neutral comment, no one will touch him. The community regulates the authority of individuals. And this adjusts in both directions!
Set up a forum if possible. By the way, if I remember correctly, phbb initially works like this. Make it visually. Leave the rank system. But if a person writes nonsense and suddenly gets pluses, subtract them.
Or change the core to something more convenient. Here is important just the domain and the site theme. Save the database of accounts and transfer it on the something modern. Bankroll for the forum to develop even from scratch is enough.
Otherwise, it will fade. He will die as all morally obsolete.
ps. I saw how on September 17, 2018, the price of merits in closed groups soared. I see waves of excitement on the forum and beyond. Your system sucks and it should be changed.
