Then what will happen to your account?

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Quote from: tranthidung on July 03, 2022, 08:51:53 PM

The forum discourage account selling so it is similar to the case you ask...

Heirs can use the login and password for the sole purpose of reporting the circumstances of death from the deceased's account, if they believe that this deserves the attention of the Bitcointalk community or if it was the will of the deceased to report his death. Using such an account in all other cases would be unethical.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

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nothing will happen, your account will stay here as long as bitcointalk is operational unless they start deleting inactive accounts. if you decided to give it to your children/family member, the account will most likely be negatively tagged if other members find out and will most likely be considered as either hacked or bought account.

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Usually people don't leave their accounts to family members or friends. Imagine if you knew someone for years and then you saw the account spreading opinions your friend did not support, because his wife or daughter are now using the account. When someone dies the account should die with him. If someone wants to be associated with that person it's easy to make a new account. In the past people were given special titles. I'm sure a relative to a long time member who passed on would be given some credit on this forum.

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After creating Crypto Library's topic, some people on this forum will think about including their account here in the will to the children.

I assume that some will leave access to the account to children or close relatives, in case they are passed away. This can be especially true in poor countries, since thanks to signature campaigns there is an opportunity to receive additional income. It is unlikely that anyone wants to deprive their loved ones of this. While the idea of transferring an account to others seems wrong to me personally, it will be difficult for forum members to catch the fact of a user change. I am inclined to ensure that the account remains inactive after passed away, and the posts made by him are saved as an archive, having "historical" value and allowing you to get useful information if they contain it.

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It all depends on how you see the forum;
What you feel the forum is and what you think the forum will become in the future.

To someone who thinks here is a kind of big company, the question in Op is very much important to the person.

But to anyone who understands that here is a discussion forum and nothing else will consider your question irrelevant.

On this premise, can you also ask.
When I die what happens to my Facebook account?
What happens to my twitter account?
What happens to my Instagram account etc?

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Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

I will ask a question to this community member's. Maybe it's looks werid but suddenly this question arises in my mind. And the question is:
"what will happen to your account when you passed away ?"

Will you pass it on to your children? (Is it legal in this forum ?)
Or will everything end there?
Then Can't we see the good deeds from these big reputed people's account?

It will basically go to your trusted person when you die. This is why I compiled notes of accounts I have that I know can help my love ones whenever I passed away. This includes instructions, wallets, forum account, account on exchanges, google drive, bank details and other things that can help them. I don't worry on strangers finding that compilation of notes because it's divided on smaller parts so it can be like a "treasure hunt" for strangers but it would be easy for my love ones since they know me and knows what kind of a person am I. One of the things I wrote on that notes is whenever I died, I want them to make a thread for me here so I can say thank you and goodbye. I don't really care if my love ones reuse this account, The thing I'm concerned more is the goodbye message I requested.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

I will ask a question to this community member's. Maybe it's looks werid but suddenly this question arises in my mind. And the question is:
"what will happen to your account when you passed away ?"

Will you pass it on to your children? (Is it legal in this forum ?)
Or will everything end there?
Then Can't we see the good deeds from these big reputed people's account?

An account should belong to the rightful owner, I don't think it makes any sense to pass your account to anyone, not that it is a policy but for some reasons such as:
- Reputation: You have built a solid foundation and are well known for the thing you are capable of doing and the things that you cannot, you know your space and limit, you may also be the type that doesn't associate, who doesn't form a clique or any form of friends but as soon as you give out your account to another person, all of these changes.

- The manner of representation: If you are a technical guy, to good about bitcoin underhood and then one day your account changes hand, you may likely get tagged by DT members as people wouldn't want to deal with you, your account may even be a suspected of been bought/sold.

In fact, selling an account on Bitcointalk is prohibited, if your account is found changing hands, just know that it will be damaged by the DT crew.

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In our society, all the intangible things of the dead are considered valuable and therefore no one uses them. All of his accounts in the social media are closed, and the access to which he succeeds is written lamentations.
Communication in the forum expresses personal opinions and therefore change of ownership means that all trust in the account is useless.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

I will ask a question to this community member's. Maybe it's looks werid but suddenly this question arises in my mind. And the question is:
"what will happen to your account when you passed away ?"

Will you pass it on to your children? (Is it legal in this forum ?)
Or will everything end there?
Then Can't we see the good deeds from these big reputed people's account?

A forum account is just a forum account. If someone dies....I think the last problem of his loved ones is how to handle or retrieve his forum accounts...
Personally I think would be easier and better to open a new account but ...yeah...it's just my opinion.

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Passing down an account is not proper, though living an account dormant has no effect to the forum but giving an account to a child who is a member of the forum (has an account) to manage while you are away is better. Living the account dormant, serves as a memory to other fresh members on the forum. And, seeing that the account is active but, is handled by someone else doesn't help. So if its in your interest to introduce your kids to the forum just like any other forums please do and they may become legendary members even before you are gone. This is a forum not a business, of-course the owner of the forum can pass down ownership to his kids, that sounds OK.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 04, 2022, 03:30:54 PM

Because if a community user of bitcointalk passed away. And is been know and reported to the community, another person can not make use of the account.

But of course, it's not all members' deaths that are reported here. The demise of Becky666 from our local was reported here because someone who knew him was a forum member. There are cases where accounts have become dormant for years and we can only suspect the inevitable could've happened to those users who probably maintained their privacy and never related with anyone outside this forum.

OP, you asked that question because you've it at the back of your mind the earnings users get here and you think that reward and earnings should be mellifluously passed on to another. That's a wrong mindset. Everyone should learn to fish by themselves. Treat this forum like you would treat any other social media site and you will see how faulty your question is.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

Or will everything end there?

Yes as far as bitcointalk forum concern it will end there. The different account here is unique and youll find it conflicting to pass it down to your relatives. Its not an asset but just an account which is free and can be created by anyone. Its not an investment or business that can pass down. Take for it as a facebook account. If an owner of that account died, of course the account cant be used by his/her children since its personal. Think of it somehow just like that.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

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"what will happen to your account when you passed away ?"

It will not go that far, the decision to leave the forum can be made at any time and an account should only be personal with all its uniqueness (writing style, knowledge, personality, etc.).
Unfortunately I have no plans to pass this account on to anyone including my son. So the rest depends on how long this forum will last with a consistent policy on accounts eg not deleting "expired" accounts, then my posts will still be visible.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

"what will happen to your account when you passed away ?"

- This will not happen if someone dies suddenly before he or she had to bequeath or tell about this account to someone to pass it on.
- If someone knows who you are in the member and who you are in the real world, he may tell that you are dead.
- If nobody knows who you are in this forum and who you are in the real world, and you have told someone else that if something happens to you, he or she just can continue using the account as long as he or she is able to do at least yours or better

Zlantann

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Just as one cannot transfer his educational qualification or certificate to his heir because they are products of acquired knowledge and skills, that's how forum accounts should be perceived. An undergraduate that claims to be a PhD holder because his father willed the certificate to him would be a menace to the academic space. Just as skill and knowledge die with the carriers, certificates, qualifications, forum rank or account must also become obsolete after the demise of the acquirers. Except in exceptional cases, I don't thing anyone is replaceable in this forum. This is because everyone has their own thought patterns, writing style, ideology, belief, etc. If I know when I would walk the path of death, it would be proper to do a farewell post and inform the management of this great community to close my account.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

I will ask a question to this community member's. Maybe it's looks werid but suddenly this question arises in my mind. And the question is:
"what will happen to your account when you passed away ?"

Will you pass it on to your children? (Is it legal in this forum ?)
Or will everything end there?
Then Can't we see the good deeds from these big reputed people's account?

this question has been treated in so many way in this community of bitcointalk and it has been universal since. Because if a community user of bitcointalk passed away. And is been know and reported to the community, another person can not make use of the account. And secondly account of a user if it passed on can be used except it's a situation whereby people or the beloved ones knows about cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

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Except for on rare occasions, people do not get to know for sure when someone passed away out of those with an account on the forum. As far as I’m concerned, I’m of the opinion that every account should be personal (*), and that there is no point in considering passing on the account to other members of the family – there certainly won’t be a procedure to do so from the perspective of the Forum (imagine needing to forward and deal with death certificates and so forth).

An account is not a milking active to pass over to other generations, and even if people did do so by passing on the credentials in some pre-planned manner, it’s pretty likely that someone will spot a complete change in posting style that may lead to some awkward situations at some point. Of course there is no impediment for someone to plan ahead and come accross their own account’s inheritance plan, but it doesn’t seem like something that would come as very top of mind thing when planning ahead for these events. In any case, I’d equate it pretty much to a bought account.

(*) There may be some exceptions, namely real business fronted by a given account which could merit a consideration, but likely all falling on the shoulders of the implied, with cero Forum implication.

Bhig Daddy

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It kind of a weird question, but when you pass on the account just become idle, I don't even think anyone will know about the account. So automatically the account dies too or just maybe someone hack into it. Besides it just an account not something you will WILL to someone.

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I would say just let it be the way it is? If someone passes away, they don't prefer someone to use their social media accounts right? That's what I would compare this forum with.

It's a forum where you can post your ideas. Maybe the one who died had different views and perspective from you, so I am sure you will not be able to walk on his road.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

I will ask a question to this community member's. Maybe it's looks werid but suddenly this question arises in my mind. And the question is:
"what will happen to your account when you passed away ?"

Will you pass it on to your children? (Is it legal in this forum ?)
Or will everything end there?
Then Can't we see the good deeds from these big reputed people's account?

Why should we care about our account and pass it on to our children or other people when we die, do you think that bitcointalk account is an asset that has value?. Maybe when we haven't died we are no longer active in this forum or maybe this forum doesn't exist anymore.
Maybe because you see a lot of earning in this forum and the value is quite high for your size because you live in a low income country but the members of this forum from so many countries even from high income countries can earn $100/day or so this forum is not a place like the real world where you can earn always.

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One of the stupid questions. Why do you care, OP? Do you only live on the forum? Don't you have another life? The forum is just a small part of our lives, but some people are very worried about it, and according to the observations of those who have recently created their profiles,

How do you suppose the forum can find out about the death of someone? Should we force our loved ones to report it? Will they get easier?

OP, every religion has a "you shall not make for yourself an idol" rule. Let you worry more about what you leave behind for the children and family, but this should not be a forum profile.

There were people who left the forum, and there are quite a few of them, and despite this, the forum remembers their names. This is, if you think you can be consoled, the best mark on the forum. Regardless of your attitude towards a user who is no more, some still remain with us.

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Is the account on this forum something that has monetary value, so the wife or children should inherit it in the legal process of inheritance?
My understanding is that an account on this forum represents one person, not a family, and it should stay that way.
I see no purpose or sense in my children or wife continuing to use my forum account after my death.
If they are interested in this forum, each of them can easily open their own account and write their own thoughts without pretending to be someone else.
What should be the subject of inheritance are our crypto assets and not our accounts on crypto forums.

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when you die is likely everything else that you have, as long no one knows your password or email then your bitcointalk or bitcoin address with the coin in it still be there, as far as I know, bitcointalk would not delete your account because of inactivity.

but I think still okay to pass it to your families member

tranthidung

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The forum discourage account selling so it is similar to the case you ask.

Account selling is discouraged because a buyer, a new owner of one account can use it for wrong purposes such as scam. In case you have a very trusted account here, and you fortunately pass away, will your account be used correctly (at least no scam) by your relatives.

Who knows what will your relatives do with it?

Forum has some mechanism to highlight potential suspicious activities:

Password, email change/ reset via email (in sec log): https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php
Password, email change in profile page (click on Trust and you will see such changes). There is a window to display such changes, maybe up to 30 days (?)

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My account will become inaccessible, because no one has password to my PC, and no one would need my bitcointalk account or know what to do with it. Maybe if people who were close to me were in extremely dire financial situations, I would have left them with instructions how to sell my account and make some money, but we are very far from it. I don't want to be greedy and squeezing money out of every single opportunity that comes by me, because some opportunities are just shady from a moral point of view. If I or someone else would sell my account, it would betray my memory and reputation, and also reflect negatively on the forum - after all we assume that users that we interacted with all these years are the same, and not different people who only post to make money. Like that guy from Chipmixer campaign who had multiple sockpuppets.

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Quote from: Eternad on July 03, 2022, 10:41:48 AM

It can be passed to someone that you want to entrusted it and it’s legal since this is just an internal transfer as long as the new owner will follow all the rules in the forum. Usually DT just give a neutral feedback for change of ownership to mark that the account change hands.

You call it internal hence, the status to this transfer is most likely to be unknown so, how how the DTs go ahead to find out and proceed with a trust feedback. Of course the post quality might change but that's not enough reason still.

The truth is, one's reputation doesn't proceed another and as such, they can't or shouldn't be traded, neither can it be transfered fron persons to persons. Best option would always remain that the account be left alone and if your completely sure your never going to be back, you could notify the forum in a thread on the reputation board and lay it to rest.

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If our forum member names work as masks and some parts of our personality, ideas, beliefs... arise when using them, then transferring "mortis causa" the account lacks some kind of logic in that sense. Maybe, if just the rank was transferable but not the forum name...

In the meantime, accounts are transferrable even "inter vivos".

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Well, everything will end there if you have passed away.
Even though you are not telling to anyone but it seems your account may be suspected as a sold account because it is changing in hand due to the posting style, posting habit and of course, the knowledge that your child has compared to your knowledge.
Besides, you will never know when you will be passed away --it seems like the crypto market price is unpredictable. So inheriting your account is possibly useless.

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Quote from: hugeblack on July 03, 2022, 03:09:54 PM

I do not see a reason for you to use the account of someone who has died, especially since most of the discussions in the forum are of a personal and scientific nature, and therefore the transfer of ownership will affect the quality of participation, as there is no difference between the account that was created now and the one that was created in 2010.
Therefore, there is no reason but to announce to the forum that he has passed away.

Don't see a reason? Let me give you a picture. Imagine you are living in the gold rush period and searching for gold in some backwater of the Wild West. Well, I bet for some members this forum is like they discovered gold, and it is new territory for them. Everyone is rushing around trying to get some! What if you could leave your gold mine to your children in the event of your untimely demise? That would be nice, right?

hugeblack

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I do not see a reason for you to use the account of someone who has died, especially since most of the discussions in the forum are of a personal and scientific nature, and therefore the transfer of ownership will affect the quality of participation, as there is no difference between the account that was created now and the one that was created in 2010.
Therefore, there is no reason but to announce to the forum that he has passed away.

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You have failed as a parent if all you can think about your kids inheriting from you is your Bitcointallk account. That's just like passing down your facebook logins to your kids as inheritance. Assuming there was an internal revenue from the forum for your past useful posts then you could consider what happens to your account after you die. For instance if the forum was like YouTube that keep paying for the contents you have created until the earning privilege is disabled them you this discussion would had been useful bit since it isn't the discussion become useless.

If you have business hosted on the forum that can be actually passed down to your kids then don't restrict them to just your account, excluding that and you're just relying on the signature/bounty campaigns earnings then go get a life. Immediately your account is found to have changed hands there are high chances of you getting mark especially when it was a well known account on the forum.

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It's just a forum mate, nothing too special about the forum to warrant passing it to my children, if at all my children need to be on this forum, I will rather have them register their own account and build it by themselves, let my reputation and legacy on this forum remain as it is, it's something the forum will remember me for when am gone, and this is if at all a user's reputation and legacies mean anything at all.
This also will help my children have an experience of what it feels like to build a reputable bitcointalk account, rather than have them enjoy a glory they did not work for, they will not know what it took me to get to the level I was before passing the account to them if I do.

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My password can be reset by my Pal and children and given to any friend who love to learn more about Bitcoin. So far i have introduced them to the forum so the can maintain and focus on their personal if no one is found then the account will remain dormant or given to any member of the public who have deep interest in Bitcoin and is willing to explore and learn.

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I started a search on the forum about RIP and I found Becky666's account died as reported by CryptopreneurBrainboss on his local board on May 10, 2021.

Since Becky666's account died, this account is no longer active, meaning this account is not inherited by anyone because of course if it changes hands it will be different, so my assumption is that even though there are children who can be inherited, but for forum accounts it is a little different but there are good things like what was said above if you are interested in the world of bitcoin then it is better to create a new account than to continue it.

I myself if I die I will not bequeath it, let them know the forum on their own and learn a lot from it.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on July 03, 2022, 11:45:02 AM

any children that like this forum and want to learn more about life in relation to bitcoin can just register an account.

I second that, i can't imagine having to pass down a bitcointalk account to my children, that will be absurd to say the least. Rather than do a thing like that, if your children are somewhat interested in Bitcoin like you said, then let them register on the forum and join in the discussions about Bitcoin and other whatnots that go on here. There are more important things i'd worry about passing down to my children than my account. This thread should be in meta in my opinion.

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Quote from: mk4 on July 03, 2022, 11:03:28 AM

I totally get that they earn a living on Bitcointalk (especially those in poorer countries), but I really hope they only look at Bitcointalk as temporary income and not as something they'd expect to earn from til the day they die to the point that they'd need to pass it on to their children lol.

Even if they are earning from this forum, that does not means there children should inherit their account, just like you first posted, it is just an account, any children that like this forum and want to learn more about life in relation to bitcoin can just register an account. You are also not wrong that people should not see this as a permanent means of earning.

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 03, 2022, 10:56:30 AM

I think that's exactly what bitcointalk account is to many people here.

I totally get that they earn a living on Bitcointalk (especially those in poorer countries), but I really hope they only look at Bitcointalk as temporary income and not as something they'd expect to earn from til the day they die to the point that they'd need to pass it on to their children lol.

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Quote from: mk4 on July 03, 2022, 10:50:42 AM

You're talking about Bitcointalk accounts as if it was your bitcoin wallet, or some hugely successful business that you need to hand down to your children. It's just a forum account, chill.

I think that's exactly what bitcointalk account is to many people here.

@OP Regarding your question, in case of my death my account will become inactive, as simple as that. I see no point setting up some kind of fail safe mechanism like people do with their wallets as I don't want anyone except me to have access to this account.

mk4

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You're talking about Bitcointalk accounts as if it was your bitcoin wallet, or some hugely successful business that you need to hand down to your children. It's just a forum account, chill.

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Quote from: Eternad on July 03, 2022, 10:41:48 AM

-snip-

Ok I understand, mate. But I want to know the personal opinion of the people in this forum by asking this question?

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After a user passes away, the most appropriate action imo, is for the account to become idle.

I wouldn't want to associate a veteran account to a new entity behind the keyboard who we all know nothing about. The forum is of course anonymous and no one knows who is who personally, but through someone's posts, replies and demeanor, it's possible to build a sort of personality about them.
Transfer of account would creates lots of challenges, especially in the trust system.
A total newbie could just walk only a DT1 account.

Quote from: Crypto Library on July 03, 2022, 10:37:48 AM

Then Can't we see the good deeds from these big reputed people's account?

All posts remain public and anyone can easily access them.

Eternad

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It can be passed to someone that you want to entrusted it and it’s legal since this is just an internal transfer as long as the new owner will follow all the rules in the forum. Usually DT just give a neutral feedback for change of ownership to mark that the account change hands.

If the owner die without transferring the account, It will just be dormant and will never gonna open again unless a hacker manage to hack again the forum database which happened few years ago and sold all those dormant account. But in general it should be just in dormant status.

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I will ask a question to this community member's. Maybe it's looks werid but suddenly this question arises in my mind. And the question is:
"what will happen to your account when you passed away ?"

Will you pass it on to your children? (Is it legal in this forum ?)
Or will everything end there?
Then Can't we see the good deeds from these big reputed people's account?

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