Topic: There is an abuse of merit (Read 1840 times)

I am wrong please give me basic understanding about Bitcoin now so that I can work well.

Others will no doubt make up their mind and come to their own conclusions but what cannot be denied is most newbies to a crypto forum post in crypto related threads not cricket nor football. Why did you not ask anything about crypto or specifically Bitcoin rather than build your post count by posting in football and cricket threads?

I am a new user my first journey started on September 18, 2024.  I am trying to learn and work from this forum.  As far as I know good quality posts and forums have to work otherwise no merit can be earned.  If there is any mistake in my post please help me with correct answer.   I request your help on which page and what type of post will I be able to qualify.  please tell me🙇

After one glance at your profile and post history, there are signs of it being an alt-account primarily because you know more about the forum than one month old newbies usually do.

You created your account created in September 2024 (last month) but instead of asking about crypto you used it to post immediately in cricket threads to what seems to be an attempt to build post count. After other posts in what are patterns synonymous with alt-account/farm accounts you posted in competitions and now you have now posted in the Reputation board digging up this old thread.

You have just bumped up an old thread for no real reason but in the process you have now caught the attention of other members including myself. How many accounts do you have here?

Really, it's sad that a good quality post has done nothing to improve the form, giving a post 50 merits for no reason.    It's really bad.    I think regular forums should give merit to those who work hard and post quality and stay active.

My worthless shitty opinion is that abuse of merit doesn't exist! Only a merit-source can abuse it (Because they have a very very small boring responsibility). "normal users" can use their merits exactly how they want! What's the problem? Is merit so important? Really? Come on. It's a life outside this hole to. And if I want to give 5000 merits to a post that only says "I am ugly" I can do that and it's not any merit abuse, it's my merits and no one have a penny to say what I should or doing with them, same as I don't have anything to say what others do with their merits. Stop hijack how to use merits. A quality post is a opinion not fact.
Also merit is just a fiction it doesn't exist, I don't understand why people is so horny about them? To get into a signature campaign to earn some bucks? Come on..  Cheers. / BabyB

Whenever a newbie comes along and almost immediately starts posting in a manner to arouse suspicion they are an alt-account or part of an account farm, they should not be given the benefit of the doubt as they almost always have ulterior motives.

The OP managed to get 25 merits for creating this thread on 25th February 2024 but by the time 15th April 2024 arrived, it was his last login because he knew the game was up and the first of the negative tags were placed. Quite clearly, the OP is now concentrating on the accounts in their farm as he has given up on the Elissa~sH account.

I also found something similar sir, can you make their account orange? You can be sure they are the same person.

mulyadi227 account:
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muliyadi227-1335592
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Try focusing on one of Pandorak names on April 5 2024
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3571729
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1335592
Pandora Account:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pandorak-3530840

Muliyadi227 Account Get results from the @NotATether challenge on April 22, 2024, 13:33:19 with 14 benefits. The day after April 23, 2024, 10:28:48 sent 8 benefits to Pandorak account.

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Here I also saw Xiaomie A1 found a lot of abuse of achievement awards. I've given it a negative. Is the orange color visible to you or not? If you don't see orange, please color orange on their account.

You have captured the sentiment aptly. For some of the members here in the forum, it seems clear there are no limits to their depravity (and displaying any qualities of human morality would be the furthest thing from their mind as they try to get merits in their quest to join campaigns and add to their farmed accounts).

People would have thought it does some skill to carve pumpkins and bake pizzas but some members here have displayed unbelievable talent.

The pizza competition as well as the other events have been abused on multiple occasions. If I am able to I will keep an eye on those threads and if necessary will give relevant tags but that is another issue for another day. As for the current, I am glad the Elissa~sH was caught out.

It is very sad to understand that people use the forum as a golden antelope, from which it is necessary to pump out as much as can be pumped without paying any attention to any qualities of human morality.
I also noticed this post, which screams about the hypocrisy of people who do not take something to heart but only want personal gain.
And again... I went through all the participants in the Bitcoin Node competition, but I’m not even surprised that almost all the brethren of the country which love to bake pizza and skillfully carve pumpkins gathered there. I won’t name this location, but most likely there will always be plenty of merit hunters there.
And yes, in May there will be a pizza competition again. I think we will see more than one new alternative “talented” account.

That is already possible, you just can't earn merit after you're done.

The disgusting gutter level lows that some people will go in order to seek merits has never surprised me but watching two accounts that were relative newbies at the time creating absolutely unnecessary threads about forum members (one deceased and one dying), was an eye opener. I find their behaviour repulsive.

One of those threads was created by the Elissa~sH account and I posted my disappointment on 10th March 2024:  o_e_l_e_o Such a life you will build/Laugh at death You will cry.

I do not believe this is a case of a single alt-account, The Elissa~sH account displayed key components of behaviour that showed with reasonable it is part of an account farming business.

Looks like the hunter got hunted instead, lol 🤡. That's why OP shouldn't have accused anyone of anything abusive when he was not even honest to himself. His unnecessary attention caused his own downfall.


Well you should! Your thread reached over 80 pages. Limiting merits only won't just cut it now. Also It's too easy for a farmer to farm merits. On the other hand, I think having 6 months worth of activity should be a must. So newly created farming accounts won't be able to participate without genuinely becoming an active user. Some might oppose newbies should be given rooms for growth but there are other threads/ways for that (My perspective).

-DS🧛‍♂️
  

Yes, it looks like people are taking advantage of your kindness. The latest posts from newcomers strangely coincide with their same registration date. This could be a good way to grow farming accounts.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kfcfane-3618615     March 23, 2024, 12:47:06 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63946392

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dto-3618628   March 23, 2024, 02:03:56 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63947039

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zerato-3618660 March 23, 2024, 06:05:21 PM  already worked

LOL. Caught red-handed.

Probably people with at least 50 earned merits? Or if you want to make it a little more harder, then allow only full member rank and above. Still, people will abuse it as long as they have a chance to get some free merits. Someone might have more than one full member account who will participate in such events.

Nice to see that, case closed.

Only activity? I would say it's better to have certain amount of merit too. Probably 30-50 merits because someone can earn 10 merits easily by begging i.e. earn 1 merit and then post an application on rank up thread.

My personal suggestion, I guess someone who earn 1K merits can participate too because there's no shame for high ranked user to learn technical thing from the basic.

Thank you for catching this. Now I have added a negative tag to both profiles, which I think should deter most account farms from cheating in the future (you can't get into most bounties if you have a negative feedback from DT1).

I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.

So on realizing that DT members don't tag merit abusers, you decided to take it upon yourself to abuse the merit system yourself?

What a liar and hypocrite. You actually deserve a tag since you are dishonest!


Well Well Well. This is interesting.

Yeah. What a strange coincidence. Look at the screenshot. Marvelous. Do you probably have a fan who opens your profile day and night?
Or is it not a fan? Keep saying that you are not you.

This is not how it works. Don't tell me you are roksana.hee, an SEO expert from our local thread has ruined their account lately using AI shit and plagiarism. Now you are trying to butter yahoo and lovesmayfamilis so they don't talk against you. I guess it's pretty clear who is who even though there is not enough proof to prove it. I wonder how many people abused NotATether's challenge thread to earn merits, especially by our locals. I don't feel good anymore to tell people that I am from that local thread because most of the people have a negative impression of our local board. I feel like you are telling god to give you another chance and you won't repeat the mistake. I hope God hears you. Stop responding to every post and go forward.

Believe me buddy, I don't know who they are. I have no desire to obtain merit illegally. If I can get merit by showing my merit, then I will do it, and I have no desire to get merit.
I am a small person, and I am learning by following you. I can't tell you how much time I spent. I am an SEO expert, but I know well from good ideas about the forums. You are my guide on this journey.

Trust me, Buddy, I'm not trying to tell any lies. Someone is trying to put me in danger. I have no account except one in this forum. I am here to learn knowledge. You will see my posts where I talk about what I know or try to help.

Yes, you have been here for 7–10 years. You are great people, and I always respect you. I want to move forward by following you. We can only move forward without your help. See my posts as i slowly learn and try to post sensibly.

I recall theymos discourage giving trust feedback for merit abuse, so don't expect DT will take action. Although i expect those abuser would be ignored by some members, which means they will receive less merit from them.

Congrats, you have now put yourself on the radar. I am not sure why folks make a post here and think that it will not draw attention to themselves? The community has seen nearly every trick in the book by now, most of us have been here 7-10 years.

Love the last line, sleep well for now lol.

No, no, buddy, you are in vain trying to separate yourself from this group. Your history of merit has a lot to do with those who participate in the competition. Such coincidences do not happen, just believe me. I simply have no other connections, so sleep well for now.

I wrote a post yesterday to get such merit; I decided to do it today, but it is better to talk about it than to those who have given me so many merits. They are new and have yet to post in any other thread. Their accounts should be looked into.

I am also surprised that a new member has given me many merits. Why did he give so much merit to my account? They don't understand anything new but must also know why they gave me this merit. Their accounts need to be monitored.

I am more surprised that my post is about merit abuse, but my post is getting merit like this. I am shocked.

I'm surprised no one didn't pay attention with users who merited @OP.

@OP username Elissa~sH
User who gave largest merit in this thread Unas~True

Is this really a coincidence?

Let's dig deeper, Unas~True created an account since January 26, 2024, he didn't make any post. Two months later he suddenly participate in Merit giveaway thread.

After he got 14 merits, he didn't even merit any post in Beginners & Help section (it's the board he posted in this forum, which mean he's familiar on this board to other board), but he choose to visit Reputation board and give 6 merits to this thread.

There's a rule that forbid alt accounts usage, can I say @OP deserve to get negative feedback?

Edit:
Elissa~sH last submission
Unas~True last submission

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Oh man, you're faster than me!

If you don’t see a single tag from DT, it doesn’t mean that people don’t see what’s happening with these accounts. In addition, there is no rule to flag accounts for forwarding merits, at least without concrete evidence of their alternatives. Don't just think about participating in signature companies, perhaps some people do not understand the value of merit, and transferring it in such quantity was not something important for the sender.
At least as long as these accounts are not active, there is no need to tag them or worry at all.

Although in your case, receiving 2 merits from a user who also rarely writes on the forum other than offering himself to participate in a signature looks almost the same.
But yes, not the same scale.

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You can also see how the Elissa~sH account receives merit from those who recently participated in the NotATether competition and received 14 merits from it. Quite a strange interest of newcomers who come to this topic with thanks to Elissa~sH, isn't it?
Only a blind person would not notice the transfer of merit between alternatives that have become very cunning.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3605965
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=112675
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3613705
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=117429

As The Sceptical Chymist says, any reward on the forum will be abused.

It is a complete abuse of merit. But even though you have posted it here for a long time, no action has been seen from DT members against it so far. Many have discussed here but no tag has been given for such abuse. 50 merit per 1 transaction on a Newbie account means the same person is managing both accounts. And now many signature campaign slots are seen empty for Full Member so it can be a plan to get full member rank quickly and join signature campaign. Another funny thing was that the Merited post was the last post from that account and since then that account has become inactive.  But here also the link between these two accounts is found that both accounts are inactive then the question is if these two accounts are not managed by the same owner then how can their activity be the same

 For a user who has spent so much time in this place, this act of his just made him appear like a newbie. I know that giving merits differs from person to person but I went through that post and I didn't really see how @hashuna posts contributed anything of value to warrant such a ridiculous amount of merits. I've seen others get merited such an amount and if you look at it, they deserved it, but this just points to one thing; he's an alt to an account farmer.
 I also went through @Icefrag's post history and saw the guy mostly does his business in the altcoin section and most of his posts are usually one- liners and on further inspection, it shows he was online today by 8 or there about but hasn't come to clear his name here which can only mean he has nothing to defend himself with.
Some of these offenders just look to me like they are less concerned of the consequences of their actions and don't bother to feel sorry since they know they can always evade bans(if it comes to banning ) by using their numerous alts that weren't caught.

But it’s allowed!
Well, I guess not having a clear definition to it which is something I am in on, as this would constitute the creation of threads that follows a pattern and even increase abuse so as it is, the case cannot be conclusively proven but, obvious abuses like this should be talked about at least.
In the context of condemnation to deter or discourage such habits in the future. On the knowledge of how the account doing the meriting just woke up, I see little reason to doubt it having to change hands. It’s the likely possibility but, users on here knows better than to see it for a base to trust activities promoted in this manner.

That is it, when there are no further rules to back fair usage but entire freedom for the usage, there will be abuse (directly or indirectly), and this abuse is mostly not provable since there are many freedoms to it. No matter how people could defend this, I still believe that it is unless the post is intriguing, so respectable and above all adds huge value to the forum itself, it's only then that it could be worth the 50 merits at a go.  But I see some posts that are worth less than 2 merits attracting 50 merits at times. I mean very short posts with no serious worth of appreciation.

I don't care about what users do to defend this anymore, people are sending merits based on sentiment, that's a fact and sentiment doesn't make it perfect. I'm also done thinking about the merits system of a thing, it's not worth it and it is what it is. We should all live by it (fair or not) and try to be of quality with our posts mostly for the sake of the forum and not for the merit itself. If merits come, fine, and if it doesn't come, fine.

The most important thing is for your username to continue speaking of who you are, something which the merit system itself can't deny you.

Something people haven't considered is when a person intends to merit a post with one, two or even five merits and have inadvertently merited ten, twenty or possibly in this case fifty merits.

It's unwarranted for the OP to be earning merits for bemoaning that someone else got merits.

The quality of posts is very subjective - so there is no benchmark that what some people consider low-quality posts is anything but quality to other users. However, to send 50 merit in one transaction there must be a clear reason – apart from the quality of the post, maybe something useful could also be the reason.

I can give you an example: Look at this one - hugeblack sent examplens as much as 40 merit in one transaction, it's clear why.

It is not right to give this post merit. It has been abused on merit. He should be warned about them. And this account is not used much. Sometimes wakes up.

I don't know if there is any method to send merit but for sending merit it must be a good quality post. There is no rule to award merit without merit. To send merit, it must be a good quality post only then merit can be given. I've also seen good quality posts get 50 or more merit majors at once. The posts I saw that sent 50 merits or more were very good quality merit posts. Here the post in which he gave merit was not given in full merit post. It is a misuse of merit.

The matter of sending talent is accepted but not so much is accepted in any way. It makes no sense for him to send so many merits to this post. These should be noted. Misuse of merit is that they must be warned against this, not everyone can send merit like this.

Although, the merit system has no perfect modality for disbursement and I've seen many users delivering the 50 merits at once to other users. Just like franky1, he enjoys doing that at once. This could be at anyone's discretion since it's flexible, yet, I love it if it is being used wisely and distributed effectively instead of wasting it on just a post while other more meaningful posts are being neglected.

About your concern, the suspicion here is that the user who sent the merit was a dead horse that just arose again for the purpose of sending the merit. This could indeed be concerning but may not be as we thought of it at times. Regardless of how it is, it is certainly an abuse of merit sharing of the forum, especially when the post merited is not worth any merit, not to mention handing it a whole 50 merits at once. That's gross.

In these scenarios the one receiving the merits can state they received and have no control over the one who sent them (which can be true of course) therefore however unlikely, what are the chances both accounts are being operated by the same puppeteer? When it comes to this forum, very strange things have happened over the years and still continue to happen to this day, therefore is it an option?

It's obvious the merit is from what theymos airdropped to all users to kickstart the Merit system in 2018. Judging from the accuser's post history, they last posted in August 2018 before this ongoing debacle this 2024. The account suddenly woke this year to splash 50 merit on a post that doesn't even deserve a single merit. It's a jaw dropping behaviour. Whatever made them do that is left to be understood.

To even think that the accused had been in the forum way back since 2013 makes it all surprising by that attitude. Perhaps it's a bought account. I suspect something isn't right there.

I have noticed that many people do things like this, but it needs to be worked on. Care should be taken to prevent the misuse of merit. Many good posts have been done long ago, and still, newbies are benefiting from those posts, which were given more than 50 merits too long ago. Currently, it offers merit to average posts without maintaining quality. We don't see well about these issues: which of my posts will be given merit and which posts will not. I have noticed that merit is shown in some places that are not places to give merit.
Since this is an excellent forum with many rules, they should be maintained well. Everything must be done correctly. Randomly doing something on the forum means ruining its reputation.

This scam needs to be revised; something needs to be done about it. For sending merit, such qualification will require a complete post where the post can be sent. But this is a post where so much merit is given. They neglect the matter of merit so much that it should not be ignored. Merit is given to those post ID who are eligible, and merit should always be considered. Having such a good account is possible if you know the general rules. I am not saying anything about them, but they must be aware of them. If they make such mistakes, the newcomers will not care if they see them.

Watch how Hashuna argues with Mega22 very often. The latter repeatedly calls project a scam.
I wouldn't be surprised that the 50 merits were sent to give weight to Hashuna's account, but since Icefrag understands that it's not worth risking his high rank by promoting a scam, he sent the merits to another newbie account that he doesn't mind losing.
It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Mega22, since it is clearly not a matter of the desire to participate in signature, as someone writes. Mega22 clearly knows more, since he communicated in a telegram outside the forum.

What are potential cheats supposed to do when they are watching account farmers and literally some of the lowest of the low trying to rank up using any means necessary?

For example, when action is not taken when members are blatantly using purchased accounts and are lying about participating in charity events for people (namely those that contributed in the field of cryptology) that are no longer with us and are instead being rewarded with enough merits to get to 500 and then to see those accounts get selected for the spam fest campaign that is Stake and to make 99% of their posts spamming the gambling board. It encourages others to post in similar fashion.

Regardless of the manner in which a system has been set up to function, if there is any chance of cheating/manipulating it people will try to find a way. When merit abuse occurs, members should take action as a collective in order to send out a signal to members that try to cheat.

It would be a bad way to run a business if he sent 3-5 merits every 10 days. Most likely no one would notice that, but suddenly appear with 50 Merits, I do not think it is a behavior for selling merits, especially if seller is active on the forum.

It is not the first time and it certainly will not be the last, so you should not use merits as trust feedbacks.

Your assumption cannot be refuted, but there is no concrete evidence to say the two are connected. Maybe both are managed by the same person, he is trying to use the merit to develop other accounts. It's a bit suspicious to see this fact, Icefrag who just woke up from his sleep, suddenly throws 50 merits on a low quality post.
He seemed to have received a recommendation for misuse of merit, how could someone who had just woken up from a long sleep immediately find this topic made in Announcements (Altcoins). I fully support leonair assumption, perhaps the Icefrag account was hacked or sold to someone managing the hashuna account. In my opinion, his goal is very clear, he wants to improve his low rank account by utilizing sMerit from accounts that are already in the Hero Member rank.

Uh....why wouldn't that person not be able to join a campaign somewhere down the line?  There have been, are, and probably will be campaigns whose managers either wouldn't find out about this or wouldn't care.  As to benefiting from those 50 merits, that'll certainly speed up the ranking up process as long as hashuna keeps posting and gets enough activity.  I'd be willing to bet that it would take a lot longer had he not gotten those merits, since most newbies mainly post crap.

Great catch on this one, OP.  Just to be clear:  that post absolutely did not deserve 50 merits, and it's pretty clear the Icefrag account has changed hands.  I'm going to continue to read this thread and look into Icefrag's post history if necessary to confirm what seems obvious.

That's only through inpatient merit-selling business transactions because there's no way an account with the history you posted will get 50 merits out of thin air without something involved. Even the world most silly person will understand there's something more to it.

 
Yes, it is. However, it is not a must that good quality standard posts have to receive 150 or more characters.

Maybe not. What we're seeing could only be a merit-selling transaction.

Yes, it's a clear case of merit abuse and I think you're right the one who sent those merits might be the actual real owner or someone might have bought that account. This seems like growing a new account in a short time, but I'm not sure why would someone do that while having a high ranked account.

If we check it carefully then the account which sent those merits has Hero rank which's a good rank and such ranked member should not need to grow a new account while his real account is still not enrolled in a signature campaign.

I guess it could be case of merit purchasing, the one who sent those merits might have sold the merits and the account who got it might have bought those merits. No matter what's the real story of those merits, the thing is that it's a clear case of merit abuse.

You don't need much to complain, this is pure merit abuse, it even seems that the both accounts belong to one person, even though it want to raise his alt is not abuse a merit system, some certain things is not suppose to be allowed to continue to repeating itself in this community, for this person to have done such maybe it emulate it from someone else, which is totally wrong, if these is not he/her account, both of them knows each other, we have to start now and condemn this attitude before it will turn to norms.

The guy could have just been a recipient, someone could have targeted him to draw attention to him, but why? Why choose a random manager? 1 that I have personally never even heard of.

Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. Hard to say at this point, but I would at the very least keep an eye on the guy for a bit of I were a bounty hunter and make sure the projects he is involved with are legit.

It looks fishy and most times I reason the part of country some people are and how they reason there. He could also send such amount of merits to the other profile without abusing it. Maybe sending fewer number of merits multiple times untill it gets to a high number.

Apart from sells of merits which I don't know if it exists, other merit related issues should just concern only the merits sources and not smerit earners.

Brings up the question of how trustworthy is this bounty manager if they are going to engage in merit abuse? We don't know 100% if an alt sent merits to the account or if he bought them, but it does look fishy.

I have come across some low-quality posts that received10 merits, while another received 20. I can't find the thread again where a member only made a three-word comment but received more than 20 merits too. So,it has been so for some members who don't know how to distribute merit, so they can just drop off their merit on any post that they think they are happy with. It may not matter to them what others think about the topic, but to them, they actually might have read something that made them smile and left them no option but to award merit. 

With some facts already tabled down, something is phishy here. It seems that Icefrag is a bought account who got in contact with Hashuna and agreed to splash all his merit on Hashuna. This is obviously a merit abuse case, and both accounts have raised suspicion for themselves. 

Looks like a classic case of merit sales to me.
• User A has lots of farmed accounts and advertised merits for sale on telegram, discord or wherever else they do,
• When they get a buyer, they pick one of their accounts to send the merit through,
• They know this would have a negative impact on the receiver, but do not care much for that.

Good catch op. These users would eventually run out of merits to send an the system would purge them out.

All this does is shine an unnecessary light on both accounts and some of us will probably keep an eye on them from time to time just to see if they make any mistake which connects either/both accounts to more accounts. Why the desperation to send 50 merits in one go in this way when it could have been handled in a different manner which could have attracted less attention.

Now both accounts have been brought to our attention.

leonair, already shown this, but base on the security log my plausible guess is :
The Icefrag account was hacked or bought for the purpose of selling smerits or to be resold, which now has been use to sell smerits since the password changed occur earlier last year before going to sleep and  now woke up again. I Think is the reason the Icefrag account didn't try to get into campaign or become active at least since last year.

Though also the account might be connected and is being used to make those members of this forum altcoin discussions who are still naive to think that the project is legit since Icefrag who is an hero member is still supporting the project. In the end they are trying to control naive people to invest in their scam project

Even though @Icefrag, has known this forum since 2013, and even though he has an Alt account called @hashuna registered in 2023, he should have seen the things said by @theymos, so as not to be seen.


I'm sure @hashuna is @Icefrag's Alt, because he knows and understands projects working in the crypto field, just as @Icefrag understands everything about projects working in the crypto field.

He should understand the concept said by @theymos, to avoid the chaos that occurs as in this thread, @Icefrag's behavior reflects bad activities for other members, Merit is given not on the shoulders of quality but based on individual thoughts, this is actionnot a good example.

This is indeed suspicious. The account, Icefrag just woke up and made his first order of business to send his smerits to a newbie account. My theory is that the account was sold, and the new owner probably had a deal with the seller to send the merits to @hashuna.

There is no conventional standard for meriting posts because everyone is free to give merit based on personal standards. I have seen posts with more casual words receive a large amount of merits. But I don't think that posts deserve to get such an amount of merits. It is possible that these accounts have a connection or it is also possible that the sender just wants to offload his airdropped merits. Except there is strong proof linking the two accounts, it will be assumed that they have not broken any rule. Nice catch, OP.

Better call @lovesmayfamilis. Urgently. She will bring order here! Although in the comments above we already figured out what’s what.

About @LoyceV bro. He awarded merit in large quantities to others (you won’t believe it, I personally saw it when he sent it to me ), but this was due to other reasons.

Sending large amounts of merit one time (or repeatedly) is not an indicator of abuse of merit, but in this case, all signs point to the opposite. Abuse case is closed.

@Elissa~sH, you deserve merit gratitude for your vigilance.

Nice catch Op

I think it might be that both accounts belong to one owner.  And the Hero Member account from which such a large merit transaction is done is probably the hack or sold account. And his purpose is to increase the rank of a new account by transferring all Smerit


This account password reset via email 4/17/2023, the hack or buying activity appears to have taken place at that time. and this merit transaction is the first transaction from this account. and 50 merit in the first transaction ha ha

You're right. It's a misuse of merits and both accounts are probably connected, but it's hard to prove.

Icefrag has been inactive for over five years, and all of his merits have been airdropped, so it's possible that he's part of a larger account farm. hashuna, on the other hand, is a newbie and all his posts are related to "Pyrin" announcement.

He's referring to The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days:

This is Merit abuse, but it's also allowed. An old shitposter woke up to send his airdropped sMerit to a new shitposter with a shitcoin ANN. This topic already gives him more attention than his shitcoin is worth.

I didn't find his personal wallet, he was a campaign manager and distributed the campaign rewards, but there's a chance if it's a custodial wallet or a multi-sig wallet. I also didn't find his personal social medias, can't really say too much about this case.

Since I don't see anything that lead to scam, I'd leave it until I see something suspicious.

The @OP meant the sender i.e. Icefrag, he's eligible to participate a signature campaign since he's a Hero rank user.

I do not think that @Icefrag is a merit source (can’t generate more merits.)
A project cannot be trusted because of merits, as it is a measure of the quality of posts and not trust. Since that account is promoting a POW coin, more merits will not help them. If you can prove that both accounts are linked or part of a farm of accounts, the best you will get is neutral trust.


I appreciate your trying to help, but you need to prove that merits are being misused or a merit source who is misusing them.
Overall I will give you +2 merits for your effort.

I am recharging and learning everything as new. Looking at LoyceV list of Earn Merit posts, I saw this. I don't see any reason why he gave so many merits from a random inactive account. That's why I made this post.

LoyceV bro?

 

It is not clear what you are saying in that sentence but it seems clear to me that these are too many merits for such a simple post. If it had been one, it would be acceptable, but even theymos is not very keen on punishing these cases. Without more details for me it doesn't even deserve a neutral tag, which would be the maximum to consider. I don't really care about altcoins but probably the one who gives it the 50 merits is someone related to the project or could even be an alt account. I'm sure other folks will look into it.

This is indeed merit abuse but this doesn’t mean that the account who received it will benefit on it in the future. There’s no way that account can join on signature campaign or can be trusted on loans once he/she apply. Merit is not regulated so there’s nothing much to do here rather than tag him as reference for this questionable merit transfer.

Don’t worry about this accounts because they can easily be spotted and can’t be used for financial gain here in the forum. Nice spotting this irregularity merit transfer.

Icefrag merit sent by hashuna



I saw LoyceV bro post this from Merit earn from there. I gave an ID check, and from there, I saw how Merit got 50. I saw that a low-quality post was given 50 merit points. The account that gave the merit last posted on August 6, 2018, at 01:25:54 PM, then did not post again and became active on January 25, 2024, at 12:14:41 AM. The account post looks like it's a purchased account. The account has changed hands.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.