There is no Satoshi Nakamoto as a person

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Quote from: joe50 on February 06, 2020, 12:42:37 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on February 06, 2020, 12:09:12 PM

Quote from: joe50 on February 06, 2020, 10:09:31 AM

My conclusion:
Hal Finney = Satoshi Nakamoto = Szabo + Wei Dai

Are you saying that Hal Finney is lying when he created this topic?

Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney)

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When Satoshi announced the first release of the software, I grabbed it right away. I think I was the first person besides Satoshi to run bitcoin. I mined block 70-something, and I was the recipient of the first bitcoin transaction, when Satoshi sent ten coins to me as a test. I carried on an email conversation with Satoshi over the next few days, mostly me reporting bugs and him fixing them.

Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere. I've had the good fortune to know many brilliant people over the course of my life, so I recognize the signs.

Who brought the double spending idea into reality in bitcoin?
this is just pure diversion... you wouldn't understand, he protect his life and family and i love his game.

Anyone who is knowledgeable about Bitcoin and its transaction can, so are you saying that if someone brought up some bugs idea in Eth blockchain, he is the true Vitalik Buterin? Just following your logic...

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Our Forum has come across so many discussions about Satoshi Nakomota. Some believe that there is none named Satoshi. It is a group of people who are highly focused on advanced technology, and the combined effort has paved path for the innovative bitcoin. In between more and more people claimed themselves to be Satoshi, but none has the strong proof to prove themselves to be the innovator.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 06, 2020, 12:09:12 PM

Quote from: joe50 on February 06, 2020, 10:09:31 AM

My conclusion:
Hal Finney = Satoshi Nakamoto = Szabo + Wei Dai

Are you saying that Hal Finney is lying when he created this topic?

Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney)

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When Satoshi announced the first release of the software, I grabbed it right away. I think I was the first person besides Satoshi to run bitcoin. I mined block 70-something, and I was the recipient of the first bitcoin transaction, when Satoshi sent ten coins to me as a test. I carried on an email conversation with Satoshi over the next few days, mostly me reporting bugs and him fixing them.

Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere. I've had the good fortune to know many brilliant people over the course of my life, so I recognize the signs.

Who brought the double spending idea into reality in bitcoin?
this is just pure diversion... you wouldn't understand, he protect his life and family and i love his game.

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Quote from: joe50 on February 06, 2020, 11:16:43 AM

evidence to back up my ridiculous claim sir is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Finney_(computer_scientist)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto#Dorian_Nakamoto
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

Hal Finney = Satoshi Nakamoto = Szabo + Wei Dai

Double spending was written by Hal Finney and was included in the white paper
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/bitcoin.pdf

This isn't evidence, it's just some links to articles about some people. You're not bringing anything new to the table, you're just posting some public knowledge that has been known for many years, and try to bring new meaning to it - this isn't how evidence works.

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Quote from: joe50 on February 06, 2020, 10:09:31 AM

My conclusion:
Hal Finney = Satoshi Nakamoto = Szabo + Wei Dai

Are you saying that Hal Finney is lying when he created this topic?

Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney)

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When Satoshi announced the first release of the software, I grabbed it right away. I think I was the first person besides Satoshi to run bitcoin. I mined block 70-something, and I was the recipient of the first bitcoin transaction, when Satoshi sent ten coins to me as a test. I carried on an email conversation with Satoshi over the next few days, mostly me reporting bugs and him fixing them.

Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere. I've had the good fortune to know many brilliant people over the course of my life, so I recognize the signs.

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I also think a team create bitcoin, maybe three or five people but who know.

I wish bitcoin be tottaled decentralized because i not want to withdraw it via centralized exchanges

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I'd rather not know who the creator of Bitcoin is than dig through hundreds of unreliable sources to find confirmation of my presupposition (whateverit might be). Why does it even matter if Bitcoin is decentralized?

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Quote from: BrewMaster on February 06, 2020, 11:21:26 AM

Quote from: joe50 on February 06, 2020, 10:09:31 AM

Lets just finalize this once and for all.
No one answer that name Satoshi Nakamoto, this is a name created by group of individuals and used the name as the owner of Bitcoin to divert the world attention because they know if their invention succeed, government might jail them.

finalize this? you just started a new endless discussion repeating something that has been said before and not provide any new arguments either.
it is never going to end unless people realize that it is not important who Satoshi Nakamoto is in a decentralized payment system.

yea, it is final discussion, Satoshi account is just another diversion to think he exist. believe it or not these are group of people who put head together to form something great. Finney has the biggest idea.

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Quote from: joe50 on February 06, 2020, 10:09:31 AM

Lets just finalize this once and for all.
No one answer that name Satoshi Nakamoto, this is a name created by group of individuals and used the name as the owner of Bitcoin to divert the world attention because they know if their invention succeed, government might jail them.

finalize this? you just started a new endless discussion repeating something that has been said before and not provide any new arguments either.
it is never going to end unless people realize that it is not important who Satoshi Nakamoto is in a decentralized payment system.

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Quote from: TheNewAnon135246 on February 06, 2020, 10:56:45 AM

Quote from: joe50 on February 06, 2020, 10:09:31 AM

Lets just finalize this once and for all. No one answer that name Satoshi Nakamoto, this is a name created by group of individuals and used the name as the owner of Bitcoin to divert the world attention because they know if their invention succeed, government might jail them.

Now back to inventory/creation, its very hard for only one person to create without the help of others (group). But one person can initiate an ideal and then form a group. E.g. God = three persons, Banks=group of individuals, etc.

Back to Bitcoin, the person who brought bitcoin is Finney, he first received the bitcoin and he brought the double spend idea also. He then form group and i believe they brought the idea of the name Satoshi Nakamoto due to fear of government. I remember liberty reserve, egold, ebullion these are online currencies that existed before bitcoin and died because the owner of liberty reserve was arrested by FBI. Since then ecurrencies suffered. I believe this security issue brought the anonymity to these group that invented bitcoin money.

That is a bold statement to make without any form of tangible evidence to back up your (rediculous) claim.

evidence to back up my ridiculous claim sir is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Finney_(computer_scientist)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto#Dorian_Nakamoto
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

Hal Finney = Satoshi Nakamoto = Szabo + Wei Dai

Double spending was written by Hal Finney and was included in the white paper
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/bitcoin.pdf

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Quote from: joe50 on February 06, 2020, 10:09:31 AM

Lets just finalize this once and for all. No one answer that name Satoshi Nakamoto, this is a name created by group of individuals and used the name as the owner of Bitcoin to divert the world attention because they know if their invention succeed, government might jail them.

Now back to inventory/creation, its very hard for only one person to create without the help of others (group). But one person can initiate an ideal and then form a group. E.g. God = three persons, Banks=group of individuals, etc.

Back to Bitcoin, the person who brought bitcoin is Finney, he first received the bitcoin and he brought the double spend idea also. He then form group and i believe they brought the idea of the name Satoshi Nakamoto due to fear of government. I remember liberty reserve, egold, ebullion these are online currencies that existed before bitcoin and died because the owner of liberty reserve was arrested by FBI. Since then ecurrencies suffered. I believe this security issue brought the anonymity to these group that invented bitcoin money.

That is a bold statement to make without any form of tangible evidence to back up your (rediculous) claim.

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Lets just finalize this once and for all. No one answer that name Satoshi Nakamoto, this is a name created by group of individuals and used the name as the owner of Bitcoin to divert the world attention because they know if their invention succeed, government might jail them.

Now back to inventory/creation, its very hard for only one person to create without the help of others (group). But one person can initiate an ideal and then form a group. E.g. God = three persons, Banks=group of individuals, etc.

Back to Bitcoin, the person who brought bitcoin is Finney, he first received the bitcoin and he brought the double spend idea also. He then form group and i believe they brought the idea of the name Satoshi Nakamoto due to fear of government. I remember liberty reserve, egold, ebullion these are online currencies that existed before bitcoin and died because the owner of liberty reserve was arrested by FBI. Since then ecurrencies suffered. I believe this security issue brought the anonymity to these group that invented bitcoin money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Finney_(computer_scientist)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto#Dorian_Nakamoto
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/detecting-double-spending/

My conclusion:
Hal Finney = Satoshi Nakamoto = Szabo + Wei Dai

checkout this statement:
"In a May 2011 article, Szabo stated about the bitcoin creator: "Myself, Wei Dai, and Hal Finney were the only people I know of who liked the idea (or in Dai's case his related idea) enough to pursue it to any significant extent until Nakamoto (assuming Nakamoto is not really Finney or Dai)."

Double spending was written by Hal Finney and was included in the white paper
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/bitcoin.pdf

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